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how to install custom while bootloader is locked and phone is rooted s-off

i rooted by using clockmod recovery (s-off) without unlocking the bootloader.so now i can install custom roms or not?

fireworker said:
i rooted by using clockmod recovery (s-off) without unlocking the bootloader.so now i can install custom roms or not?
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You need either a unlocked bootloader or S-Off to root a device.
If you are rooted properly then you can certainly flash Custom ROMs.
Before that go to ClockworkMod Recovery and take a complete Nandroid Backup of your current Stock ROM so that you can flash back Stock when you need.
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can i install custom rom without unlocking the bootloader or i have to unlock the bootloader?

You need a rooted device to flash Custom ROM. To get rooted you need to unlock the bootloader or make S-Off.
You said that you are rooted the device with S-off. That' enough you can flash any ROM.
Still if you are not sure you rooted or not just refer this guide:
http://androidforums.com/wildfire-s-all-things-root/480954-guide-how-root-wildfire-s-s-finally.html
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i cannot unlock bootloader because kernal version 2.6.35.10 ruu is not available on htcdev

Press <power> + Vol Down type what is displayed on your HBOOT.
If your Hboot version is 1.08.xxxx or later version you may skip the RUU Process and try to unlock the bootloader.
Follow the guide, it will help you to root.

I have Hboot Version 1.03.0000

fireworker said:
I have Hboot Version 1.03.0000
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You need to Update the bootloader thru HTCdev.com
Follow the steps carefully and patiently and update the bootloader. For RUU you have to choose according to your country/region and carrier, which matches with. But be sure to chose the right one.
You need to have installed HTC Sync, Android SDK and Java Runtime on your PC, those links are available with Guide itself.
After updating the bootloader, you need to root the device. Then install ClockworkMod Recovery, which will help you to take the Nandroid Backup of your STOCK ROM.
Thereafter if you need, can install LINK2SD which will help you to install all your apps on your SD Card. So that phone's internal memory will be increased and you can see a considrable fast with the device.
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as i told u my kenral verion ruu is not listed on htc dev i have already installed clockworkmod reccovery and lind2sd
i just want to install custom rom
all guides of installing custom roms says that u have to unlock bootloader to install custom rom

If you are S-OFF, then you can just install a ROM. There is no need to unlock the bootloader.

is there a way to unlock bootloader without htcdev

is there r chances to hard brick my phone while flashing custom rom?

Hi dear friend,
can you type exactly what is displayed on your HBOOT menu...?
I asked you already, but you didn't do it.....

Hi I'm just having trouble flashing recovery on my wildfire s, can u send me the correct RG67.img or what ever file I need , I'm firmware ver 2.3.5 and 1.0.9.0099.
I'm s on and not rooted but I am unlocked I need to flash then root but can't get the right files.. plz help man I spent 5 days goin in circles arghh
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st3wy said:
Hi I'm just having trouble flashing recovery on my wildfire s, can u send me the correct RG67.img or what ever file I need , I'm firmware ver 2.3.5 and 1.0.9.0099.
I'm s on and not rooted but I am unlocked I need to flash then root but can't get the right files.. plz help man I spent 5 days goin in circles arghh
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Download here:
http://androidforums.com/4801879-post750.html
if any doubts refer there itself.....
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senthamil said:
hi dear friend,
can you type exactly what is displayed on your hboot menu...?
I asked you already, but you didn't do it.....
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marvel pvt ship s-off rl
hboot-1.03.0000
mi crop-0451
radio-7.46.35.00
jun 2 2011,17:50

fireworker said:
marvel pvt ship s-off rl
hboot-1.03.0000
mi crop-0451
radio-7.46.35.00
jun 2 2011,17:50
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Hi,
Since your bootloader says S-OFF, you can try any custom ROM.
Just refer the below link, If you like it just download the ROM and Flash it. See all the features listed there. It's not available with the STOCK ROM!....
http://androidforums.com/wildfire-s...ockernel-stable-apps2sd-premium-features.html
Hope this may be useful.....

I was thinking to flash wild child 2
Is it save to flash this rom means it didn't brick my phone
And how to create partition
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fireworker said:
is there a way to unlock bootloader without htcdev
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get a XTC-CLIP

Xtc-clip is not available in my country
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Can someone please make guides/tutorials for S-OFF HTC One X?

Title says it all. I know that with S-OFF, things should be easier than with S-ON. Nut this is my first Android device and even if I read different threads regarding rooting/flashing, etc., things are still complicated specially because the guides are specifically made for S-ON devices - which is understandable, I know. Considering that the existence of S-OFF HTC One Xs are almost a myth.

It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.

The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO

EddyOS said:
The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO
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Uhh, yeah, I know that. That's why I am trying to learn things. Thanks for 'helping' me 'recognized contributor'.

All you have to do is follow every other guide that's on here, the only difference being you can flash any RUU you want if you need to go back to stock. There's not a lot to it
And just cause I'm an RC doesn't mean I have to be nice

Chezbel said:
It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.
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I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?

EddyOS said:
The OP has an S-OFF One X and has NO idea what he's doing...complete waste of an S-OFF device IMO
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completely agree :laugh:

Chezbel said:
It sounds like you do know that S-OFF is not generally available for the HOX. So, do you have S-OFF and what specific things are you trying to figure out?
Here are a couple of simple things:
if you have S-OFF, then when you flash a ROM from recovery it will also update the boot.img so you don't need to flash the boot.img separately in bootloader mode.
If you are flashing an hboot, you don't have to the fastboot oem lock first.
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I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?
EddyOS said:
All you have to do is follow every other guide that's on here, the only difference being you can flash any RUU you want if you need to go back to stock. There's not a lot to it
And just cause I'm an RC doesn't mean I have to be nice
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Oh, i know that one! Had to flash a RUU after I got stuck on boot trying to install a custom ROM. Anyway, S-off or not, do I need CWM? Because that's where I think I got wrong. I never heard of clockwork mod before I installed this custom rom. Now I am reading this guide but it doesn't mention where I should put the recovery.img before I flash it.

Yes you do. Having s-off means you can fall back on any RUU to go back to stock. Other than that you follow the same guides as everyone else
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Wow.... Seems like the one v forum isn't the only one full of jerks.
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cammykool said:
Wow.... Seems like the one v forum isn't the only one full of jerks.
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Who is the idiot you're referring to?
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jed27.galvez said:
I am reading this thread - [Guide] - The Ultimate Stock to Custom ROM Awesomeness thread - Noob friendly and I don't know which steps apply to my phone since the thread is not specifically for S-off devices:
Unlock bootloader - do i need to do this? do i have a reason to go to htcdev.com if I want to install custom ROM on my phone? do i need an identifier token?
Custom Recovery/Clockwork MOD/SuperSU - is this essential so I can flash a custom ROM?
Titanium Backup - is this a must?
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You shouldn't have to do the htcdev unlock
If you want to flash any ROMs or make system backups you must install a recovery such as CWM or TWRP
Perhaps Titanium backup is a not must, but I would highly recommend it. That has nothing to do with S-ON vs S-OFF. It's a very useful tool for backing up your applications and other information. The paid version is well worth the money.
In general, as was mentioned before, you can still follow all the guides step by step. It's possible that some steps don't apply to you, but it won't hurt to do them. If you aren't sure what you are doing then it's better not to guess about which steps to skip.

I have got to the part on installing a custom recovery, but it says NOT ALLOWED. I asked some recognized members and some said that it is not enough that I am s-off to flash custom recovery, that I should also unlock bootloader.
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OK, that makes sense because you have to flash recovery from the bootloader. I think it would save you some time and confusion if you just pretend that you have S-ON like everyone else and follow all steps of the guides you are using.
If you do that, including unlocking your bootloader, then the main difference for you will be when flashing a new ROM from CWM or TWRP since the boot.img will get updated. With S-ON that can't happen from recovery, the boot.img can only be flashed from the bootloader screen.

jed27.galvez said:
I have got to the part on installing a custom recovery, but it says NOT ALLOWED. I asked some recognized members and some said that it is not enough that I am s-off to flash custom recovery, that I should also unlock bootloader.
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When having S-OFF you have to give the command on whicht partition you want. As I heard you can't say recovery or something.
I managed this with the application "Rom Manager". Also S-OFF device. But for flashing a CWM through "Rom Manager" you have rooted your phone first.

Chezbel said:
OK, that makes sense because you have to flash recovery from the bootloader. I think it would save you some time and confusion if you just pretend that you have S-ON like everyone else and follow all steps of the guides you are using.
If you do that, including unlocking your bootloader, then the main difference for you will be when flashing a new ROM from CWM or TWRP since the boot.img will get updated. With S-ON that can't happen from recovery, the boot.img can only be flashed from the bootloader screen.
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Some devs don't include the boot.img in their rom zip so you'd still have to flash it separately with fast boot.
To unlock your bootloader simply type fastboot oem unlock, unlike s-on phones, you don't require the unlock file from htcdev.com
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stuart0001 said:
To unlock your bootloader simply type fastboot oem unlock, unlike s-on phones, you don't require the unlock file from htcdev.com
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Are you sure? I don't think that is true (at least not in all cases)

Chezbel said:
Are you sure? I don't think that is true (at least not in all cases)
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tried fastboot oem unlock, doesn't seem to work for me, I get an error message. Ugh, I can't continue with htcdev.com, their site is always down or very very slow.

Hi Stuart,
Even if the boot.img is included in the zip you need to flash the boot.img separate isn't?
What I'm trying to say is, it doesn't make a difference if they include it in the zip or not, if it's not included you only need to download twice.
stuart0001 said:
Some devs don't include the boot.img in their rom zip so you'd still have to flash it separately with fast boot.
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi Stuart,
Even if the boot.img is included in the zip you need to flash the boot.img separate isn't?
What I'm trying to say is, it doesn't make a difference if they include it in the zip or not, if it's not included you only need to download twice.
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With S-OFF, if the boot.img is in the ROM then you don't need to flash it separately.
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Cid 11111111

my Onex is showing Cid 111111 ..and S-OFF
so is it okayto go ahead with the custom rom without doing the bootloader ?

ImPeCcAbLE said:
my Onex is showing Cid 111111 ..and S-OFF
so is it okayto go ahead with the custom rom without doing the bootloader ?
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Yes flash your self away
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ImPeCcAbLE said:
my Onex is showing Cid 111111 ..and S-OFF
so is it okayto go ahead with the custom rom without doing the bootloader ?
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Lucky man

:'( ...

can i use super cid ...
and should i just go about the normal way for installing a custom rom or do i need to do something otherthan the usual way ?

ImPeCcAbLE said:
can i use super cid ...
and should i just go about the normal way for installing a custom rom or do i need to do something otherthan the usual way ?
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You can skip the fastboot steps. You're the lucky one who doesn't have to flash boot via fastboot.

Yes you can just flash roms from recovery, no need to go into fastboot to flash boot.img
Wanna trade One X's ?

any sticky regarding that thread .. noob here .. and MY BOOTLOADER IS LOCKED ! JUST TO KEEP IN MIND
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1924003
can use this method ?

Yes you can

going to install a custom ROM 1.31 hboot asking if I superCID (cid 11111111) with hboot 1.28??

[Q] do i need s off for installing custom roms

i am a little confused .... i rooted my desire hd and installed cwm recovery..... bootloader is unlocked but i couldnt get s off..... can i just install custom roms by putting zip in sd card and apllying that zip from cmw recovery or do i need s off !!!!!
thanks in advance

assasin196 said:
i am a little confused .... i rooted my desire hd and installed cwm recovery..... bootloader is unlocked but i couldnt get s off..... can i just install custom roms by putting zip in sd card and apllying that zip from cmw recovery or do i need s off !!!!!
thanks in advance
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No you do not technically need to be s-off. If you have cwm installed just install rom zip from there

thekool11 said:
No you do not technically need to be s-off. If you have cwm installed just install rom zip from there
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what basically is s off????

assasin196 said:
what basically is s off????
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In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag.
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Quoted from here

If you are bootloader unlocked instead of S-Off, you also need to fastboot flash a boot.img after each time you flash a ROM from recovery.

bananagranola said:
If you are bootloader unlocked instead of S-Off, you also need to fastboot flash a boot.img after each time you flash a ROM from recovery.
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sir how to do that.... i have unlocked bootloader i need to flash rcmix energized rom... how to flash boot.img and where do i find it????

Extract the ROM, than flash the boot.img, but I would consult in the ace think tank thread b4 you do something because I might be wrong
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Look for instructions in post #7 of the link in my signature.

PLZ HELP
hey guys
i have a htc sensation rooted + unlocked bootloader + clockworkmod installed but NO s-off so can i install custom roms
If YES then can anyone tell me which rom is the best?:good:

Salman03 said:
hey guys
i have a htc sensation rooted + unlocked bootloader + clockworkmod installed but NO s-off so can i install custom roms
If YES then can anyone tell me which rom is the best?:good:
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Your in the wrong place my friend, you might want to look here for Roms for your device

My xposed modules sent working is it because I don't have s off? I'm rooted with twrp any advise

[Q] few questions about s-off

hi guys,
I'm new here, just came from htc one x which doesn't have s-off so there are stuff about s-off which i don't understand,,
first of all in htc one x in order to flash a rom, i had to flash the boot.img via fastboot, is it the same with s-on here?
and about flashing just the kernel with s-on, its though fastboot too?
how does s-off works with flashing firmware and cid?
and if you can explain the advantages s-off gives us?
thanks for the help,
Lior
P.S. i searched the net for over 2 hours and could not find an answer to these quesions..

liorderei said:
hi guys,
I'm new here, just came from htc one x which doesn't have s-off so there are stuff about s-off which i don't understand,,
first of all in htc one x in order to flash a rom, i had to flash the boot.img via fastboot, is it the same with s-on here?
and about flashing just the kernel with s-on, its though fastboot too?
how does s-off works with flashing firmware and cid?
and if you can explain the advantages s-off gives us?
thanks for the help,
Lior
P.S. i searched the net for over 2 hours and could not find an answer to these quesions..
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No you don't have to flash the boot.img anymore the phone does it when you are installing a rom. You can flash a kernel just by uploading the zip to your internal memory and installing it like you would install a rom.
With s-off you can access more system permissions so you can apply mods such as Harman/Kardon speakers. To S-OFF you will need Firewater S-OFF if firewater doesn't work your only choice is using Sunshine S-OFF

Kahun said:
No you don't have to flash the boot.img anymore the phone does it when you are installing a rom. You can flash a kernel just by uploading the zip to your internal memory and installing it like you would install a rom.
With s-off you can access more system permissions so you can apply mods such as Harman/Kardon speakers. To S-OFF you will need Firewater S-OFF if firewater doesn't work your only choice is using Sunshine S-OFF
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hi, thanks for the replay, just out of curiosity, how come with the one x we had to flash the boot image separately and on the m8 we don't?