Ive rooted my phone and done the radio-S-OFF as also installed a cooked rom. My question is, do I need to have ENG-S-OFF or not ?
What can you do with ENG-S-OFF that you cannot do with SHIP-S-OFF ?
It allows you to flash partitions with fastboot.
leppie said:
It allows you to flash partitions with fastboot.
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So with out it I can still flash ROMs and radios etc ?
5haddex said:
So with out it I can still flash ROMs and radios etc ?
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ROMS - YES
Radio - NO
silashack said:
ROMS - YES
Radio - NO
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Cool thanks for the help..
Same problem here,how to get from ship s-off to eng s-off or radio s-off ?
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If you look in the dev section, you'll find 2 threads giving you 1 click tools to get eng and / or radio s-off (posted and created by jkoljo)....
be sure to read the guide to understand the risks
I allready used one click tool,still have ship s-off
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then if you want Radio S-off, use the Radio S-off & SuperCID 1 click tool
paulus_01 said:
then if you want Radio S-off, use the Radio S-off & SuperCID 1 click tool
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The opposite, he wants ENG S-OFF.
ENG SPL or ENG S-off is the same as radio s-off, there is not extra functionality, infact on the classic desire we can modify the partition table with just bootloader s-off
AndroHero said:
ENG SPL or ENG S-off is the same as radio s-off, there is not extra functionality, infact on the classic desire we can modify the partition table with just bootloader s-off
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You are mistaken. ENG S-OFF is not Radio S-OFF. Both provide S-OFF, but only ENG S-OFF will allow remote fastboot flashing.
leppie said:
You are mistaken. ENG S-OFF is not Radio S-OFF. Both provide S-OFF, but only ENG S-OFF will allow remote fastboot flashing.
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you mean the fastboot flash command? can we not do that on the DHD?? we can on the classic desire
AndroHero said:
you mean the fastboot flash command? can we not do that on the DHD?? we can on the classic desire
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You can, but only with the ENG hboot. The problem is that if anything goes wrong when flashing hboot, you have a brick (unless you manage to reflash it successfully before rebooting).
leppie said:
You can, but only with the ENG hboot. The problem is that if anything goes wrong when flashing hboot, you have a brick (unless you manage to reflash it successfully before rebooting).
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yeah i understand that, but on the other hand its safer to flash a radio from fastboot rather than recovery isnt it? so its a double edged sword
AndroHero said:
yeah i understand that, but on the other hand its safer to flash a radio from fastboot rather than recovery isnt it? so its a double edged sword
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I can't comment of that, never have had the need to reflash the radio
leppie said:
I can't comment of that, never have had the need to reflash the radio
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you probably will when GB is released for the DHD, the eclair radio's didnt work well with froyo when that was released on the desire...... i'm going to stick with the radio s-off for now anyway, thanks for clarifying the diffence tho .... i feel like a noob again
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ok im really new to android, i have managed to install a Rom. but what do i do with the radio file
A clear step by step guide would be great.
thanks
Install ENG HBOOT (S-OFF) >>Step 2 - ENG HBOOT (S-OFF)<<
If your flashing a radio I strongly recommend >>Radio S-OFF<<
Then follow >>This Guide<<
andyharney said:
To flash a radio you need >>Radio S-OFF<<
Then follow >>This Guide<<
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No, he needs ENG S-OFF, not Radio S-OFF
Yes, as far as I know, ENG S-Off is must to have to revert (downgrade) radio.
Apologies, Eddie1506 is correct you only need ENG S-OFF.
However, I still recommend Radio S-OFF. If your unlucky enough to flash a radio that prevents root & downgrading, Radio S-OFF comes to the rescue.
thats only if you flash the OTA update if you flash the radio sepereately you dont loose root and S-OFF
You can't do radio s-off after upgrading the radio so best to do it before. If you don't you won't have any opportunity to downgrade the radio again if it gives you any issues. It's unlikely you will get issues but better safe than sorry.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
is radio flashing neccesary before installing a custom rom?
vromylos said:
is radio flashing neccesary before installing a custom rom?
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Heres a link to my guide on how to flash a radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10245560#post10245560
Depends what the Rom is based on
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Today i have flashed the latest leedroid rom but i am now unable to flash the matching radio im guessing this is down to my phone being ship s-off not eng s-off. previous to the new update i was able to flash radios with no problem now i get REMOTE NOT ALLOWED. i have tried putting my phone back to eng s-off but get an error "incompatible ROM/Kernal with the easy s-off tool.
How would i be able to get eng s-off back to flash the radio?
any help would be greatly appieciated.
bginders said:
Today i have flashed the latest leedroid rom but i am now unable to flash the matching radio im guessing this is down to my phone being ship s-off not eng s-off. previous to the new update i was able to flash radios with no problem now i get REMOTE NOT ALLOWED. i have tried putting my phone back to eng s-off but get an error "incompatible ROM/Kernal with the easy s-off tool.
How would i be able to get eng s-off back to flash the radio?
any help would be greatly appieciated.
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the eng s-off tool isnt compatible with newer roms with custom kernels, do a nandroid backup of your current rom, then flash an older based rom with a STOCK HTC KERNEL. run the s-off tool, then restore your backup
AndroHero said:
the eng s-off tool isnt compatible with newer roms with custom kernels, do a nandroid backup of your current rom, then flash an older based rom with a STOCK HTC KERNEL. run the s-off tool, then restore your backup
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Cant he just flash stock kernel? I dont know, only asking.
Patrics83 said:
Cant he just flash stock kernel? I dont know, only asking.
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i think he needs an older rom base, not 1.71/1.75....
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i think he needs an older rom base, not 1.71/1.75....
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Thats correct. Good to know. You learn something everyday.
From the One click S-OFF Thread:
System requirements:
•Windows XP SP2 or higher
•.NET Framework 3.5
•HTC Sync (or ADB drivers)
•Desire HD with original kernel (or Buzz 1.0.7 / 1.1.4 Sense). It is best to use STOCK ROM (lower than 1.7x)! The new HTC radio does not work.
Thank you that worked a treat. why didn't i yhink of that...
bginders said:
Thank you that worked a treat. why didn't i yhink of that...
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Did you flash a 1.32 RUU?
Patrics83 said:
Did you flash a 1.32 RUU?
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No i just flashed an old cyanogenmod rom that i had on my pc and that worked just fine.
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is your phone ENG S-OFF or SHIP S-OFF? (written at the top of the screen in the bootloader)
to flash radio, you need both Radio S-OFF and ENG S-OFF.
and what exactly does the error say in adb.
Do I just flash it like a rom?
No, you shouldn't attempt that.
Radios need to be flashed via fastboot from command prompt
Code:
fastboot flash radio radio.img
spikey68 said:
Do I just flash it like a rom?
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Assuming that you have Radio S-Off, you can follow this GUIDE.
redlinux said:
Assuming that you have Radio S-Off, you can follow this GUIDE.
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Cheers Red...
Take serious attention tho, you can brick your phone if you are careless.
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eng s-off
When you say s-off is a need then i just think is that the same as eng s-off just wanna be sure before i start doing flashing of radio
MadssiDK said:
When you say s-off is a need then i just think is that the same as eng s-off just wanna be sure before i start doing flashing of radio
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No, please read the thread suggested earlier
MadssiDK said:
When you say s-off is a need then i just think is that the same as eng s-off just wanna be sure before i start doing flashing of radio
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You do S-OFF first and then ENG-off. Eng-off is needed to be able to flash radios. Good luck!
My friend, rooted and Eng s-offed his phone in the beginning, but he didn't radio s-off.
Now he is on Runny 1.5, and he wants to radio s-off his phone whit one click s-off.
But it requires "Desire HD with stock kernel (or Apache14's 1.0.7 / 1.1.4 Sense)"
Can someone link me to one of the kernels so i can flash it for him.?
Link To Tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
I think that "s-off" is referring to the radio. If you are s-off you can flash radios through the bootloader. Check the development thread. If you're talking about turning eng s-off, it is mostly recomended to leave it alone. From my understanding it is easier to brick your phone with eng s-off, so I wouldn't do it unless you are sure you know what you're doing.
suprtrukr425 said:
I think that "s-off" is referring to the radio. If you are s-off you can flash radios through the bootloader. Check the development thread. If you're talking about turning eng s-off, it is mostly recomended to leave it alone. From my understanding it is easier to brick your phone with eng s-off, so I wouldn't do it unless you are sure you know what you're doing.
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He is Eng s-off, but not S-off
AA--92 said:
My friend, rooted and Eng s-offed his phone in the beginning, but he didn't radio s-off.
Now he is on Runny 1.5, and he wants to radio s-off his phone whit one click s-off.
But it requires "Desire HD with stock kernel (or Apache14's 1.0.7 / 1.1.4 Sense)"
Can someone link me to one of the kernels so i can flash it for him.?
Link To Tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
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till you wait the answer and waitin for the kernel
you put the pd98.img
on the card and "update " to 1.32 and than you do Radio S-off
and Eng S-OFF...i wont take more than 1 hour to do it all again in the correct succession
how can my phone be s-off but no alpharev?
i want it alpharev'd so can i ?
your phone is factory S-OFF, you are one of the lucky few, well done. Just flash an Alpharev patched hboot..
thx bor. link to a hboot my friend?
leecavturbo said:
thx bor. link to a hboot my friend?
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Have a look here:
http://alpharev.nl
is alpha rev needed if you are S-off?
you don't need to use it to S-OFF, but you do need to use it if you want a patched HBOOT/ SPL.
@OP you will NOT be able to just flash the HBOOTs listen on Alpharev. Download the PB99IMG.zip of Bravo_stock, put it on the root of your sd-card (not in any folders), boot into the BOOTLOADER (not fastboot), and when it asks you to update hit yes.
nozzla said:
is alpha rev needed if you are S-off?
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No, it's just completely redundant.
You can read about the different Hboots on that site and download your choice.
Best regards
got alpharev "pink" now. but no why so serious?
not needed i know but i just like it
leecavturbo said:
got alpharev "pink" now. but no why so serious?
not needed i know but i just like it
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you're welcome
http://alpharev.nl/splash-hvga.img