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Ive rooted my phone and done the radio-S-OFF as also installed a cooked rom. My question is, do I need to have ENG-S-OFF or not ?
What can you do with ENG-S-OFF that you cannot do with SHIP-S-OFF ?
It allows you to flash partitions with fastboot.
leppie said:
It allows you to flash partitions with fastboot.
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So with out it I can still flash ROMs and radios etc ?
5haddex said:
So with out it I can still flash ROMs and radios etc ?
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ROMS - YES
Radio - NO
silashack said:
ROMS - YES
Radio - NO
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Cool thanks for the help..
Same problem here,how to get from ship s-off to eng s-off or radio s-off ?
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If you look in the dev section, you'll find 2 threads giving you 1 click tools to get eng and / or radio s-off (posted and created by jkoljo)....
be sure to read the guide to understand the risks
I allready used one click tool,still have ship s-off
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then if you want Radio S-off, use the Radio S-off & SuperCID 1 click tool
paulus_01 said:
then if you want Radio S-off, use the Radio S-off & SuperCID 1 click tool
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The opposite, he wants ENG S-OFF.
ENG SPL or ENG S-off is the same as radio s-off, there is not extra functionality, infact on the classic desire we can modify the partition table with just bootloader s-off
AndroHero said:
ENG SPL or ENG S-off is the same as radio s-off, there is not extra functionality, infact on the classic desire we can modify the partition table with just bootloader s-off
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You are mistaken. ENG S-OFF is not Radio S-OFF. Both provide S-OFF, but only ENG S-OFF will allow remote fastboot flashing.
leppie said:
You are mistaken. ENG S-OFF is not Radio S-OFF. Both provide S-OFF, but only ENG S-OFF will allow remote fastboot flashing.
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you mean the fastboot flash command? can we not do that on the DHD?? we can on the classic desire
AndroHero said:
you mean the fastboot flash command? can we not do that on the DHD?? we can on the classic desire
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You can, but only with the ENG hboot. The problem is that if anything goes wrong when flashing hboot, you have a brick (unless you manage to reflash it successfully before rebooting).
leppie said:
You can, but only with the ENG hboot. The problem is that if anything goes wrong when flashing hboot, you have a brick (unless you manage to reflash it successfully before rebooting).
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yeah i understand that, but on the other hand its safer to flash a radio from fastboot rather than recovery isnt it? so its a double edged sword
AndroHero said:
yeah i understand that, but on the other hand its safer to flash a radio from fastboot rather than recovery isnt it? so its a double edged sword
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I can't comment of that, never have had the need to reflash the radio
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I can't comment of that, never have had the need to reflash the radio
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you probably will when GB is released for the DHD, the eclair radio's didnt work well with froyo when that was released on the desire...... i'm going to stick with the radio s-off for now anyway, thanks for clarifying the diffence tho .... i feel like a noob again
I am currently on the oxygen Hboot and im looking to change to the CM7 hboot.
I have copied the PB99IMG.zip to SD, it gives me the option to start the update which i do, but then it says Bootloader: Bypassed
And it does not change the hboot. Any idea on the problem?
Thanks
U are going from WHAT to WHAT?
EDIT: Dobbelpost :-(
I have ammended the first post
Hmm... have U tried to flash Bravo downgrader (Also from alpharev) and then the HBOOT U want?
Jakedude2011 said:
Hmm... have U tried to flash Bravo downgrader (Also from alpharev) and then the HBOOT U want?
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Thanks, that solved the problem, i used the downgrader.
You shouldn't need to(that was some bad advice)
The reason it failed, was that you are using an old version. You should download the more reason version instead, as the partition-layout have also been revised.
Download it from alpharev.nl and flash it straight away no reason to use downgrader unless you actually wan't to downgrade to a lower version(original s-on hboot)
325i. said:
Thanks, that solved the problem, i used the downgrader.
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No problem... glad it helped.
@mortenmhp: How can a bad advice solve a problem? Dont u mean it maybe wasnt the greatest advice,
according to U? It did solve his problem, he did succesfully flash his hboot after following my advice... so...?
Yes, I know, that U dont need to use the downgrader,
unles U wanna RUU or get OTA. I have stated that in another thread, and even tested it
from cm7r2 -) stock hboot (not using downgrader because someone said that it was the only way!).
But now he got an error, and this advice I gave him,
was a thought (idea) that the downgrader could help... and... it did??!!
mortenmhp said:
You shouldn't need to(that was some bad advice)
The reason it failed, was that you are using an old version. You should download the more reason version instead, as the partition-layout have also been revised.
Download it from alpharev.nl and flash it straight away no reason to use downgrader unless you actually wan't to downgrade to a lower version(original s-on hboot)
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maybe he preferred the older partition layout as he had modified the rom to fit?
this is the reason i use custom mtd instead of a fixed layout as i can change it for what purpose i need it for with more finite details
All advice that works is good advice...I was gunna suggest to do what I do...I use the xda all in 1 android flasher utility...download your preferred hboot put phone into fastboot mode click begin and in 30 seconds its all done and rebooting
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I recently came across revolutionary, it is said to s-off the devic
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Device permanently, I am currently rooted with supernova data2sd, can I use that program to s-off my device?
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I ran it
worked fine for me
sebastianlow said:
Device permanently, I am currently rooted with supernova data2sd, can I use that program to s-off my device?
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I am currently using MIUI - D2EXT and successfully S-OFF'ed my desire this morning!
it crashed on me when i said 'y' to download the recovery - wanted to see if it would pull down anything newer than 2.5.0.7
flash your own recovery and skip that part,
hboot before flash needs to be 0.93.0001
Par4 said:
flash your own recovery and skip that part,
hboot before flash needs to be 0.93.0001
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well yea I did anyway - but I wanted to know what version it pulled down
So, this is an "easy" way to S-OFF my Desire? (Yes, I'm a noob and afraid of bricking my phone since I, you know, need it to do phone stuff )
My device is rooted, running a custom recovery and MIUI, but it isn't S-OFF'd yet.
I've read that Android Flasher needs S-OFF so the bootscreen etc can be modified, but can I use Android Flasher to flash a custom recovery with an S-ON device?
Unrevoked wouldn't flash the 4EXTRecovery img I just want to make sure I can use Android Flasher instead without going through the S-OFF procedure before.
Thanks, haven't got round to S-off yet as the previous methods seemed somewhat daunting.
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flash your own recovery and skip that part,
hboot before flash needs to be 0.93.0001
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Agree with above quote.
Easy to use, once s-off just use any recovery. I used 4Ext 2.1.3. Just put the Pblahblahblah.img on your sd card and install through fastboot.
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Best is to flash the recovery before s-off with revolutionary so you can skip that part.
as for some the recovery doesn't work in revolutionary
done in a couple of seconds.
and you don't need to use vmware or a bootable cd or usb.
I've used it. Dead easy, and the phone remained S-OFF after I PB99IMG'd it to the official GB build.
I had modified the .zip a little though, removed radio and recovery (already had newer radio and left CWM so I could root easily).
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can you upload the moddified pb99 file? i cant modify it my self it doesnt let delete files from the archive. if i decompress and comppress it again it doesnt work
Can I use this to s-off with the official GB update or is that hboot too new?
Zombie Dude said:
Can I use this to s-off with the official GB update or is that hboot too new?
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hboot too new
Lothaen said:
hboot too new
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Thanks. I did some searching before and found that out. Well guess I'll still be waiting till they find a way to either downgrade or unlock the newer hboot.
aliensk said:
can you upload the moddified pb99 file? i cant modify it my self it doesnt let delete files from the archive. if i decompress and comppress it again it doesnt work
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Sure: http://www.mediafire.com/file/m16ypyymn5x1spn/PB99IMG.zip
Contains no radio or recovery. Does contain HBOOT, but Revolutionary doesn't get overwritten by it.
I would like to S-OFF my Desire and want to know if either Revolutionary or Alpharev flash their own recovery in addition to doing S-OFF?
I already rooted my Desire a couple months ago with unrevoked3 and this put on Clockworkmod (unsure what version) in addition as well, but I'm happy with how it works and don't need it replaced I guess.
Which one should I use? Do I get a choice to do S-OFF only and skip replacing the recovery?
Name of this thread is EPIC!
Rusty! said:
I've used it. Dead easy, and the phone remained S-OFF after I PB99IMG'd it to the official GB build.
I had modified the .zip a little though, removed radio and recovery (already had newer radio and left CWM so I could root easily).
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aliensk said:
can you upload the moddified pb99 file? i cant modify it my self it doesnt let delete files from the archive. if i decompress and comppress it again it doesnt work
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Lothaen said:
hboot too new
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Salty Wagyu said:
I would like to S-OFF my Desire and want to know if either Revolutionary or Alpharev flash their own recovery in addition to doing S-OFF?
I already rooted my Desire a couple months ago with unrevoked3 and this put on Clockworkmod (unsure what version) in addition as well, but I'm happy with how it works and don't need it replaced I guess.
Which one should I use? Do I get a choice to do S-OFF only and skip replacing the recovery?
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I had 2.3.3 oficial update. I used revolutionary to s-off (with the oficial update i had 1.02.0001 hboot and after s-off i had 6.93.0002 hboot). After s-off i ran the shipped RUU and i am still s-off and 6.93.0002 hboot.
Is there a way to get back to 0.93.0001?
to get S-ON...because he is still S-off
I had 2.3.3 oficial update. I used revolutionary to s-off (with the oficial update i had 1.02.0001 hboot and after s-off i had 6.93.0002 hboot). After s-off i ran the shipped RUU and i am still s-off and 6.93.0002 hboot.
Is there a way to get back to 0.93.0001?
1) alpharev.nl is a website read each line of it
2) u have to read xda every day to understand all, then u can do things like root, s-off, custom roms...otherwise is better u enjoy ur stock phone as is
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andQlimax said:
1) alpharev.nl is a website read each line of it
2) u have to read xda every day to understand all, then u can do things like root, s-off, custom roms...otherwise is better u enjoy ur stock phone as is
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Yeaa.. but can you help me with this than... i'm searching alday long for this!
can you PLEASE explain what i need and what i need to download it.. because i need get that S-on..
i heard from a friend.. that i CAN'T DOWNGRADE because there is no exploit of it...
what do you think?
I want to learn this, sooo a little help i can use
I download the Pb99img, from alpharev 1,8, Bravo Downgrader
run it on bootloader aply yes
My hboot is now : S-off.Hboot-6. 93.9999
I want it back to normol hboot S-onn
PLEASE HELP SOMEBODY!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16686095&postcount=9
Can I ask you a question ?
Why you want get back to 0.93 ?
MatDrOiD said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16686095&postcount=9
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Justinstz said:
Can I ask you a question ?
Why you want get back to 0.93 ?
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i found it!
'' First rename the Bravo downgrader.zip to PB99IMG run it in HBOOT MODE, not recovry mode, aply the update, than you hboot will chance to '' ... 9999 '' , after that i had a RUU ZIPFILE, rename that also to PB99IMG run in HBOOT mode and you're done, yoo i learn this as wel!,
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So did this bring your phone back to S-ON after you ran the RUU?
Aha it did work thanks
Sorry guys need a bit elaboration as i also wanna downgrade my htc desire hboot 6.93.1002 to 0.92 elaborate how u did that
Azroid said:
Sorry guys need a bit elaboration as i also wanna downgrade my htc desire hboot 6.93.1002 to 0.92 elaborate how u did that
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1. Flash downgrader from AlphaRev site.
2. Flash your RUU.
3. Now its downgraded.
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itachi1706 said:
1. Flash downgrader from AlphaRev site.
2. Flash your RUU.
3. Now its downgraded.
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But how do I flash the downgrader??. If I double click on the downgrader it asks me what I want to use to burn the file?.
I am trying to get my wifes desire to have a custom rom as it keeps saying she is low on memory. I have used revolutionary to change from hboot 1.02 to 6.93 with s off but now do not have a clue what to do. I have been trying to read up on what to do all day but everything speaks as though I should know exactly what to do from the off!.
Give me my HD2 any day!!! lol
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Scotty.
tuktukscotty said:
But how do I flash the downgrader??. If I double click on the downgrader it asks me what I want to use to burn the file?.
I am trying to get my wifes desire to have a custom rom as it keeps saying she is low on memory. I have used revolutionary to change from hboot 1.02 to 6.93 with s off but now do not have a clue what to do. I have been trying to read up on what to do all day but everything speaks as though I should know exactly what to do from the off!.
Give me my HD2 any day!!! lol
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Scotty.
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Download the img, rename it to PB99IMG.img and place it on the root of your sdcard. Then boot into hboot (while the phone is off, press volume down + power button), click vol up button to apply update and again to reboot. Now its flashed. Then you can continue with the RUU.
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itachi1706 said:
Download the img, rename it to PB99IMG.img and place it on the root of your sdcard. Then boot into hboot (while the phone is off, press volume down + power button), click vol up button to apply update and again to reboot. Now its flashed. Then you can continue with the RUU.
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Cheers.
Will try it once again.....
Azroid said:
Sorry guys need a bit elaboration as i also wanna downgrade my htc desire hboot 6.93.1002 to 0.92 elaborate how u did that
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Why do you want to do that?
There is a downgrader.img on the alpharev website which if you fastboot flash it to replace the existing hboot, will then allow you to use a RUU. Choose a RUU that has the hboot you want and run it. Of course this will unroot your phone. What is your actual aim here?
Downgrade from HBOOT 6.93.0002 to 0.93.0001
Guys, if you ORIGINALLY had 0.93.00001 and ran the Revolutionary S-OFF program, it WILL update your HBOOT to 6.93.0002. This is a GOOD thing, you'll still be S-OFF'd but you'll be running the Gingerbread HBOOT version. It's always better to have the newer version of the HBOOT than the older version. As long as you're S-OFF'd, it really doesn't matter which HBOOT version you have, I just recommend the newer version. Thanks!
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rootSU said:
Why do you want to do that?
There is a downgrader.img on the alpharev website which if you fastboot flash it to replace the existing hboot, will then allow you to use a RUU. Choose a RUU that has the hboot you want and run it. Of course this will unroot your phone. What is your actual aim here?
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That's exactly what I said LOL There's no use downgradnig HBOOT's if you're already S-OFF'd with 6.93.0002
InMyBedNow said:
Guys, if you ORIGINALLY had 0.93.00001 and ran the Revolutionary S-OFF program, it WILL update your HBOOT to 6.93.0002. This is a GOOD thing, you'll still be S-OFF'd but you'll be running the Gingerbread HBOOT version. It's always better to have the newer version of the HBOOT than the older version. As long as you're S-OFF'd, it really doesn't matter which HBOOT version you have, I just recommend the newer version. Thanks!
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For your information, GB Hboot is 1.02.0001 not 6.93.0002. 6.93.0002 is revolutionary hboot and if htc sees that highly likely they will not place it under warranty.
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Hi everyone I needed to dowgrade because I wanted to use Alex-V's new 1.7.5 HD rom wich requires custom hboot but apparently the revolutionary one is newer hence the need of dowgrade but it was all a bit confusing for me aswell (no ofence and big thanks to all of you that are trying very hard to make it as simple as possible for us) so at the end just before I give up I put the downgrade img from AlphaRev's site in android flasher and it was all done in 1.6sec
I hope that helps
dragokanev said:
Hi everyone I needed to dowgrade because I wanted to use Alex-V's new 1.7.5 HD rom wich requires custom hboot but apparently the revolutionary one is newer hence the need of dowgrade but it was all a bit confusing for me aswell (no ofence and big thanks to all of you that are trying very hard to make it as simple as possible for us) so at the end just before I give up I put the downgrade img from AlphaRev's site in android flasher and it was all done in 1.6sec
I hope that helps
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Hi, I'm struggling to root my old HTC desire bravo, have same hboot version as yours. Unable to install drivers for ADB. Want to root my phone because I want to learn how to play with custom ROMs, flashing etc...
neers13 said:
Hi, I'm struggling to root my old HTC desire bravo, have same hboot version as yours. Unable to install drivers for ADB. Want to root my phone because I want to learn how to play with custom ROMs, flashing etc...
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What hboot have u got and are u on 2.3.3? There's no need to downgrade to get root u just need to use revolutionary.
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I guys,
Does anyone can help me to downgrade from HBOOT 1.02.0001?
Thank you
Jeanphi
Jeanphi12 said:
I guys,
Does anyone can help me to downgrade from HBOOT 1.02.0001?
Thank you
Jeanphi
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Dont post this in the dev section but post it in the q&a plz.. also try searchin the dev section, you will find an answer.
Greetz
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Jeanphi12 said:
I guys,
Does anyone can help me to downgrade from HBOOT 1.02.0001?
Thank you
Jeanphi
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Sure thing. And after that you'll require my assistance with changing your diapers, yes?
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Why do you think you need to downgrade your hboot? What benefits do you expect to gain from doing so?
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as rootsu said, theres no benefits
but if you really want to then head over to the alpharev site and download the hboot downgrader, flash that either by fastboot or the pb99img.zip method, then run a froyo ruu
I already tried using the hboot downgrader but it didn't work.
I also tried unrevoked...
Thank you all for your help
Sorry not to have post at the right place...
rootSU said:
Why do you think you need to downgrade your hboot? What benefits do you expect to gain from doing so?
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I install the latest "official" Gingerbread from here http://www.htcdev.com/process/legal_download/152 but there are too many bugs...
I want to go back to official froyo to unrevoked again...
Jeanphi12 said:
I install the latest "official" Gingerbread from here http://www.htcdev.com/process/legal_download/152 but there are too many bugs...
I want to go back to official froyo to unrevoked again...
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what bugs have you found?
you cant do that, but you can go to http://revolutionary.io and flash a custom hboot, then you can decide if you want to:
1) Flash the downgrader.img and run a Froyo RUU to remain stock OR
2) Flash custom recovery (and root or flash custom ROM)
What is the ultimate goal? You want to be rooted and with custom ROM?
elliottg61 said:
what bugs have you found?
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When I use Icoyote and google nav, if I have a new emal, it bugs...
Not enough memory... big problem
rootSU said:
you cant do that, but you can go to http://revolutionary.io and flash a custom hboot, then you can decide if you want to:
1) Flash the downgrader.img and run a Froyo RUU to remain stock OR
2) Flash custom recovery (and root or flash custom ROM)
What is the ultimate goal? You want to be rooted and with custom ROM?
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Thank you very much for your help, IT WORKED WELL, I can come back to custom rom now...
I wish you a nice weekend!
Jeanphi
Is there a way to S-on again ? or change HBOOT?
I try to downgrade but I still have the S-OFF hboot 6.093.1002.
Thank you
only way to s-on is to flash downgrader.img then run RUU. S-off is good though.
rootSU said:
only way to s-on is to flash downgrader.img then run RUU. S-off is good though.
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I tried several times but it did not work...
The procedure succeed when the downgrde is down I can read "[2] boot loader = bypassed"... others are OK
I tried also other think... flashing with different RUU Roms, works every time except the boot that didn't change...
Did you succeed overwriting the hboot after s-off on time?
I think I will leave it so
Thank you for the time you gave me
Jeanphi
Jeanphi12 said:
I tried several times but it did not work...
The procedure succeed when the downgrde is down I can read "[2] boot loader = bypassed"... others are OK
I tried also other think... flashing with different RUU Roms, works every time except the boot that didn't change...
Did you succeed overwriting the hboot after s-off on time?
I think I will leave it so
Thank you for the time you gave me
Jeanphi
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flash the downgrader mean u type from a shell on ur computer the command "fastboot flash hboot downgrader.img"..did u do that? it succeded?
after run the ruu
see this thread
andQlimax said:
flash the downgrader mean u type from a shell on ur computer the command "fastboot flash hboot downgrader.img"..did u do that? it succeded?
after run the ruu
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I followed this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
Windows Installation
0. Install HTC Sync (driver required).
1. Extract the downloaded zip file fully (do not just click on the zip file).
2. Enable USB debugging on your phone. Ensure 'ask me' is set under 'Connect to PC' setting with 'charge only'. Plug in your phone.
3. Double-click on the win-down file.
4. Follow instructions and wait.
I also used this one, don't know if it is the same
http://alpharev.nl/PB99IMG_downgrade.zip
Same problem
If I didn't use the right method, please let me know and explain me if possible.
Thank you.
I know that I am a novice but I want to learn.
Jeanphi
Hey, take a look at this two site - Revolutionary tool (the evolution of the unrevoked tool)
revolutionary.io/
unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
I was able to re-root my desire with Android 2.3.3 & Hboot 1.02.001
I left trying to downgrade hboot and I install last leedroid HD, it seems to work (little bit slow). Strange thing, I can not flash the last radio...
Thank you all for your help.
Regards