I guys,
Does anyone can help me to downgrade from HBOOT 1.02.0001?
Thank you
Jeanphi
Jeanphi12 said:
I guys,
Does anyone can help me to downgrade from HBOOT 1.02.0001?
Thank you
Jeanphi
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Dont post this in the dev section but post it in the q&a plz.. also try searchin the dev section, you will find an answer.
Greetz
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Jeanphi12 said:
I guys,
Does anyone can help me to downgrade from HBOOT 1.02.0001?
Thank you
Jeanphi
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Sure thing. And after that you'll require my assistance with changing your diapers, yes?
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Why do you think you need to downgrade your hboot? What benefits do you expect to gain from doing so?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
as rootsu said, theres no benefits
but if you really want to then head over to the alpharev site and download the hboot downgrader, flash that either by fastboot or the pb99img.zip method, then run a froyo ruu
I already tried using the hboot downgrader but it didn't work.
I also tried unrevoked...
Thank you all for your help
Sorry not to have post at the right place...
rootSU said:
Why do you think you need to downgrade your hboot? What benefits do you expect to gain from doing so?
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I install the latest "official" Gingerbread from here http://www.htcdev.com/process/legal_download/152 but there are too many bugs...
I want to go back to official froyo to unrevoked again...
Jeanphi12 said:
I install the latest "official" Gingerbread from here http://www.htcdev.com/process/legal_download/152 but there are too many bugs...
I want to go back to official froyo to unrevoked again...
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what bugs have you found?
you cant do that, but you can go to http://revolutionary.io and flash a custom hboot, then you can decide if you want to:
1) Flash the downgrader.img and run a Froyo RUU to remain stock OR
2) Flash custom recovery (and root or flash custom ROM)
What is the ultimate goal? You want to be rooted and with custom ROM?
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what bugs have you found?
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When I use Icoyote and google nav, if I have a new emal, it bugs...
Not enough memory... big problem
rootSU said:
you cant do that, but you can go to http://revolutionary.io and flash a custom hboot, then you can decide if you want to:
1) Flash the downgrader.img and run a Froyo RUU to remain stock OR
2) Flash custom recovery (and root or flash custom ROM)
What is the ultimate goal? You want to be rooted and with custom ROM?
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Thank you very much for your help, IT WORKED WELL, I can come back to custom rom now...
I wish you a nice weekend!
Jeanphi
Is there a way to S-on again ? or change HBOOT?
I try to downgrade but I still have the S-OFF hboot 6.093.1002.
Thank you
only way to s-on is to flash downgrader.img then run RUU. S-off is good though.
rootSU said:
only way to s-on is to flash downgrader.img then run RUU. S-off is good though.
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I tried several times but it did not work...
The procedure succeed when the downgrde is down I can read "[2] boot loader = bypassed"... others are OK
I tried also other think... flashing with different RUU Roms, works every time except the boot that didn't change...
Did you succeed overwriting the hboot after s-off on time?
I think I will leave it so
Thank you for the time you gave me
Jeanphi
Jeanphi12 said:
I tried several times but it did not work...
The procedure succeed when the downgrde is down I can read "[2] boot loader = bypassed"... others are OK
I tried also other think... flashing with different RUU Roms, works every time except the boot that didn't change...
Did you succeed overwriting the hboot after s-off on time?
I think I will leave it so
Thank you for the time you gave me
Jeanphi
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flash the downgrader mean u type from a shell on ur computer the command "fastboot flash hboot downgrader.img"..did u do that? it succeded?
after run the ruu
see this thread
andQlimax said:
flash the downgrader mean u type from a shell on ur computer the command "fastboot flash hboot downgrader.img"..did u do that? it succeded?
after run the ruu
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I followed this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
Windows Installation
0. Install HTC Sync (driver required).
1. Extract the downloaded zip file fully (do not just click on the zip file).
2. Enable USB debugging on your phone. Ensure 'ask me' is set under 'Connect to PC' setting with 'charge only'. Plug in your phone.
3. Double-click on the win-down file.
4. Follow instructions and wait.
I also used this one, don't know if it is the same
http://alpharev.nl/PB99IMG_downgrade.zip
Same problem
If I didn't use the right method, please let me know and explain me if possible.
Thank you.
I know that I am a novice but I want to learn.
Jeanphi
Hey, take a look at this two site - Revolutionary tool (the evolution of the unrevoked tool)
revolutionary.io/
unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
I was able to re-root my desire with Android 2.3.3 & Hboot 1.02.001
I left trying to downgrade hboot and I install last leedroid HD, it seems to work (little bit slow). Strange thing, I can not flash the last radio...
Thank you all for your help.
Regards
Related
I am currently on the oxygen Hboot and im looking to change to the CM7 hboot.
I have copied the PB99IMG.zip to SD, it gives me the option to start the update which i do, but then it says Bootloader: Bypassed
And it does not change the hboot. Any idea on the problem?
Thanks
U are going from WHAT to WHAT?
EDIT: Dobbelpost :-(
I have ammended the first post
Hmm... have U tried to flash Bravo downgrader (Also from alpharev) and then the HBOOT U want?
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Hmm... have U tried to flash Bravo downgrader (Also from alpharev) and then the HBOOT U want?
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Thanks, that solved the problem, i used the downgrader.
You shouldn't need to(that was some bad advice)
The reason it failed, was that you are using an old version. You should download the more reason version instead, as the partition-layout have also been revised.
Download it from alpharev.nl and flash it straight away no reason to use downgrader unless you actually wan't to downgrade to a lower version(original s-on hboot)
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Thanks, that solved the problem, i used the downgrader.
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No problem... glad it helped.
@mortenmhp: How can a bad advice solve a problem? Dont u mean it maybe wasnt the greatest advice,
according to U? It did solve his problem, he did succesfully flash his hboot after following my advice... so...?
Yes, I know, that U dont need to use the downgrader,
unles U wanna RUU or get OTA. I have stated that in another thread, and even tested it
from cm7r2 -) stock hboot (not using downgrader because someone said that it was the only way!).
But now he got an error, and this advice I gave him,
was a thought (idea) that the downgrader could help... and... it did??!!
mortenmhp said:
You shouldn't need to(that was some bad advice)
The reason it failed, was that you are using an old version. You should download the more reason version instead, as the partition-layout have also been revised.
Download it from alpharev.nl and flash it straight away no reason to use downgrader unless you actually wan't to downgrade to a lower version(original s-on hboot)
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maybe he preferred the older partition layout as he had modified the rom to fit?
this is the reason i use custom mtd instead of a fixed layout as i can change it for what purpose i need it for with more finite details
All advice that works is good advice...I was gunna suggest to do what I do...I use the xda all in 1 android flasher utility...download your preferred hboot put phone into fastboot mode click begin and in 30 seconds its all done and rebooting
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I had 2.3.3 oficial update. I used revolutionary to s-off (with the oficial update i had 1.02.0001 hboot and after s-off i had 6.93.0002 hboot). After s-off i ran the shipped RUU and i am still s-off and 6.93.0002 hboot.
Is there a way to get back to 0.93.0001?
1) alpharev.nl is a website read each line of it
2) u have to read xda every day to understand all, then u can do things like root, s-off, custom roms...otherwise is better u enjoy ur stock phone as is
Sent from my HTC Desire
andQlimax said:
1) alpharev.nl is a website read each line of it
2) u have to read xda every day to understand all, then u can do things like root, s-off, custom roms...otherwise is better u enjoy ur stock phone as is
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Yeaa.. but can you help me with this than... i'm searching alday long for this!
can you PLEASE explain what i need and what i need to download it.. because i need get that S-on..
i heard from a friend.. that i CAN'T DOWNGRADE because there is no exploit of it...
what do you think?
I want to learn this, sooo a little help i can use
I download the Pb99img, from alpharev 1,8, Bravo Downgrader
run it on bootloader aply yes
My hboot is now : S-off.Hboot-6. 93.9999
I want it back to normol hboot S-onn
PLEASE HELP SOMEBODY!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16686095&postcount=9
Can I ask you a question ?
Why you want get back to 0.93 ?
MatDrOiD said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16686095&postcount=9
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Justinstz said:
Can I ask you a question ?
Why you want get back to 0.93 ?
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i found it!
'' First rename the Bravo downgrader.zip to PB99IMG run it in HBOOT MODE, not recovry mode, aply the update, than you hboot will chance to '' ... 9999 '' , after that i had a RUU ZIPFILE, rename that also to PB99IMG run in HBOOT mode and you're done, yoo i learn this as wel!,
''
So did this bring your phone back to S-ON after you ran the RUU?
Aha it did work thanks
Sorry guys need a bit elaboration as i also wanna downgrade my htc desire hboot 6.93.1002 to 0.92 elaborate how u did that
Azroid said:
Sorry guys need a bit elaboration as i also wanna downgrade my htc desire hboot 6.93.1002 to 0.92 elaborate how u did that
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1. Flash downgrader from AlphaRev site.
2. Flash your RUU.
3. Now its downgraded.
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itachi1706 said:
1. Flash downgrader from AlphaRev site.
2. Flash your RUU.
3. Now its downgraded.
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But how do I flash the downgrader??. If I double click on the downgrader it asks me what I want to use to burn the file?.
I am trying to get my wifes desire to have a custom rom as it keeps saying she is low on memory. I have used revolutionary to change from hboot 1.02 to 6.93 with s off but now do not have a clue what to do. I have been trying to read up on what to do all day but everything speaks as though I should know exactly what to do from the off!.
Give me my HD2 any day!!! lol
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Scotty.
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But how do I flash the downgrader??. If I double click on the downgrader it asks me what I want to use to burn the file?.
I am trying to get my wifes desire to have a custom rom as it keeps saying she is low on memory. I have used revolutionary to change from hboot 1.02 to 6.93 with s off but now do not have a clue what to do. I have been trying to read up on what to do all day but everything speaks as though I should know exactly what to do from the off!.
Give me my HD2 any day!!! lol
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Scotty.
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Download the img, rename it to PB99IMG.img and place it on the root of your sdcard. Then boot into hboot (while the phone is off, press volume down + power button), click vol up button to apply update and again to reboot. Now its flashed. Then you can continue with the RUU.
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Download the img, rename it to PB99IMG.img and place it on the root of your sdcard. Then boot into hboot (while the phone is off, press volume down + power button), click vol up button to apply update and again to reboot. Now its flashed. Then you can continue with the RUU.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire with Android 4.0.1 ICS using Tapatalk
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Cheers.
Will try it once again.....
Azroid said:
Sorry guys need a bit elaboration as i also wanna downgrade my htc desire hboot 6.93.1002 to 0.92 elaborate how u did that
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Why do you want to do that?
There is a downgrader.img on the alpharev website which if you fastboot flash it to replace the existing hboot, will then allow you to use a RUU. Choose a RUU that has the hboot you want and run it. Of course this will unroot your phone. What is your actual aim here?
Downgrade from HBOOT 6.93.0002 to 0.93.0001
Guys, if you ORIGINALLY had 0.93.00001 and ran the Revolutionary S-OFF program, it WILL update your HBOOT to 6.93.0002. This is a GOOD thing, you'll still be S-OFF'd but you'll be running the Gingerbread HBOOT version. It's always better to have the newer version of the HBOOT than the older version. As long as you're S-OFF'd, it really doesn't matter which HBOOT version you have, I just recommend the newer version. Thanks!
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rootSU said:
Why do you want to do that?
There is a downgrader.img on the alpharev website which if you fastboot flash it to replace the existing hboot, will then allow you to use a RUU. Choose a RUU that has the hboot you want and run it. Of course this will unroot your phone. What is your actual aim here?
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That's exactly what I said LOL There's no use downgradnig HBOOT's if you're already S-OFF'd with 6.93.0002
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Guys, if you ORIGINALLY had 0.93.00001 and ran the Revolutionary S-OFF program, it WILL update your HBOOT to 6.93.0002. This is a GOOD thing, you'll still be S-OFF'd but you'll be running the Gingerbread HBOOT version. It's always better to have the newer version of the HBOOT than the older version. As long as you're S-OFF'd, it really doesn't matter which HBOOT version you have, I just recommend the newer version. Thanks!
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For your information, GB Hboot is 1.02.0001 not 6.93.0002. 6.93.0002 is revolutionary hboot and if htc sees that highly likely they will not place it under warranty.
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Hi everyone I needed to dowgrade because I wanted to use Alex-V's new 1.7.5 HD rom wich requires custom hboot but apparently the revolutionary one is newer hence the need of dowgrade but it was all a bit confusing for me aswell (no ofence and big thanks to all of you that are trying very hard to make it as simple as possible for us) so at the end just before I give up I put the downgrade img from AlphaRev's site in android flasher and it was all done in 1.6sec
I hope that helps
dragokanev said:
Hi everyone I needed to dowgrade because I wanted to use Alex-V's new 1.7.5 HD rom wich requires custom hboot but apparently the revolutionary one is newer hence the need of dowgrade but it was all a bit confusing for me aswell (no ofence and big thanks to all of you that are trying very hard to make it as simple as possible for us) so at the end just before I give up I put the downgrade img from AlphaRev's site in android flasher and it was all done in 1.6sec
I hope that helps
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Hi, I'm struggling to root my old HTC desire bravo, have same hboot version as yours. Unable to install drivers for ADB. Want to root my phone because I want to learn how to play with custom ROMs, flashing etc...
neers13 said:
Hi, I'm struggling to root my old HTC desire bravo, have same hboot version as yours. Unable to install drivers for ADB. Want to root my phone because I want to learn how to play with custom ROMs, flashing etc...
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What hboot have u got and are u on 2.3.3? There's no need to downgrade to get root u just need to use revolutionary.
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I recently bought a Desire (A8183) and it came with HBOOT 0.75.0000 and I am trying to get S-OFF on it. I tried using AlphaRev and it came up with an error in step 3. How do I overcome this?
The phone still works fine.
tangcla said:
I recently bought a Desire (A8183) and it came with HBOOT 0.75.0000 and I am trying to get S-OFF on it. I tried using AlphaRev and it came up with an error in step 3. How do I overcome this?
The phone still works fine.
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1st: Wrong topic, you should post it in Q&A.
2nd: Have you flashed any custom ROM??? If so, thats why you cannot S-OFF it, try any near-to-stock, froyo rooted rom and then try again, this will do the trick
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thanito said:
1st: Wrong topic, you should post it in Q&A.
2nd: Have you flashed any custom ROM??? If so, thats why you cannot S-OFF it, try any near-to-stock, froyo rooted rom and then try again, this will do the trick
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Oops, wrong subforum, didn't realise.
Yes I'm running a custom ROM I'll try a Froyo-based ROM and see if that helps.
It's a shame that Revolutionary doesn't support this version of HBOOT, is there any way of 'tricking' Revolutionary to S-OFF the 0.75 HBOOT?
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You can always update bootloader... if you have a goldcard then put the attached file in the root of your sd-card, and then boot into bootloader and wait for it do do it's thing.. when it prompts you select yes. This will update your bootloader to version 0.93.1002
You shouldn't lose any data, but do make a backup of the ROM in recovery in case you get a bootloop.
Then run Revolutionary.
MD5 6384C1953791831738CCB78322DABD2C
bortak said:
You can always update bootloader... if you have a goldcard then put the attached file in the root of your sd-card, and then boot into bootloader and wait for it do do it's thing.. when it prompts you select yes. This will update your bootloader to version 0.93.1002
You shouldn't lose any data, but do make a backup of the ROM in recovery in case you get a bootloop.
Then run Revolutionary.
MD5 6384C1953791831738CCB78322DABD2C
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I downloaded the file and put it on the root sdcard... Bootloader seemed to just skip over the file though.
Do I need to change the text file in the zip to my CID or anything else? It doesn't like it
you need a goldcard, so it ignores the CID.. or actually.. what network are you on?
EDIT: Just noticed lol
Wait I'm downloading a Telstra RUU and I'll give you a new PB99IMG
try this. If not, then you can always use the RUU to do a full update, and then S-OFF and flash a custom ROM.
Thanks I'll give it a try.
I have four microSD cards at home and I've tried gold carding all of them... I don't know how successful I was cos I couldn't do what I wanted on the Desire HD
tangcla said:
Thanks I'll give it a try.
I have four microSD cards at home and I've tried gold carding all of them... I don't know how successful I was cos I couldn't do what I wanted on the Desire HD
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try the goldcard tutorial I posted.
Okay, well I'm gonna get to sleep now but I'll give you some advice before you go.
If you can't update the bootloader with that, I'd suggest backing up your ROM (if you havent done so already), flashing the RUU to bring it up to the latest bootloader version, and then using revolutionary.
Once you've S-OFF'd with revo. Use android flasher to flash recovery (Note: your backup will not work if you do not flash the same version of recovery) and then do a full wipe and flash a ROM of your choice.
Would you happen to know where I can get the original Telstra RUU from? I think that might be my best bet.
Thanks for your help!
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Would you happen to know where I can get the original Telstra RUU from? I think that might be my best bet.
Thanks for your help!
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I sent you a link on my other post, but I think the site is down at the moment.. I can upload a mirror for you though because I downloaded it yesterday
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/...2U_5_11_05_14_release_150162_signed.exe_links
Thanks - this looks like it worked now HBOOT 0.93.0001, running revolutionary now.
Is there any benefit in upgrading HBOOT at all? What does 1.02.0001 offer?
Hboot 1.xxxx is the stock hboot for gingerbread. So it offers you nothing. By flashing a hboot like cm7 (most roms fit in this hboot), you get much more space for installing apps, because its /data partition is much bigger.
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Hi everyone,
I want to S-off my device again, so I don't need to reflash the Boot.img of every custom rom over and over again.
I've tried to flash my device with the DHD Stock 1.32 Rom to use jkoljo's method for S-off'ing my device.
So I put the PD98IMG.zip on my SDcard and let the HBoot flash it. After the reboot I got stuck at HTC Logo and this happens too after flashing PD98IMG.zip's boot.img
So is there another way to S-off my device while I'm HTCDevUnlocked or is it game over for S-off?
I've googled for some time on the net, but I couldn't find a DHD specific result.
Thanks in advance!
****head said:
Hi everyone,
I want to S-off my device again, so I don't need to reflash the Boot.img of every custom rom over and over again.
I've tried to flash my device with the DHD Stock 1.32 Rom to use jkoljo's method for S-off'ing my device.
So I put the PD98IMG.zip on my SDcard and let the HBoot flash it. After the reboot I got stuck at HTC Logo and this happens too after flashing PD98IMG.zip's boot.img
So is there another way to S-off my device while I'm HTCDevUnlocked or is it game over for S-off?
I've googled for some time on the net, but I couldn't find a DHD specific result.
Thanks in advance!
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No need to google around lol when you have xda forums
Try this tool here
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No need to google around lol when you have xda forums
Try this tool here
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Thanks, will try it when I got the time
I guess, I need to be on an original rom or a Sense-rom
Do you know how I can flash an original rom from HTC itself? I thought it was like putting P98IMG.zip on the sd and let HBoot find it and flash it.
But after that I got stuck at HTC-logo, and flashing the boot.img doesn't work neither :s
I really don't know how to flash DHD's Froyo rom after (HTCDev) unlocking my device
Run the RUU of the OS you were last on, so if you were on WWE 2.50 run that RUU, or if you were on 3.12 Sense 3.0 then run that, relock the bootloader, and run attn1's Ace Hack Kit, it will automatically do the downgrade for you so you get S-OFF.
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Run the RUU of the OS you were last on, so if you were on WWE 2.50 run that RUU, or if you were on 3.12 Sense 3.0 then run that, relock the bootloader, and run attn1's Ace Hack Kit, it will automatically do the downgrade for you so you get S-OFF.
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So I need to relock it before I can run that RUU?
Ok, I will try it when I have the time to do it.
Thanks everyone!
Hello,
I've been trying to get back to 2.3.3 to run revolutionary on HTC incredible 2. I went to this link that was on rootzwiki. sorry i'm not allowed yet to post link but I can't download any of the files and I don't know which file to download. Sorry I'm new to this.
Please help me find the zip file to flash to get back to 2.3.3 so I can run revolutionary and get S-off
Thank you in advance
atticustcx said:
Hello,
I've been trying to get back to 2.3.3 to run revolutionary on HTC incredible 2. I went to this link that was on rootzwiki. sorry i'm not allowed yet to post link but I can't download any of the files and I don't know which file to download. Sorry I'm new to this.
Please help me find the zip file to flash to get back to 2.3.3 so I can run revolutionary and get S-off
Thank you in advance
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Out of thoroughness, why do you want to have s-off?
atticustcx said:
Hello,
I've been trying to get back to 2.3.3 to run revolutionary on HTC incredible 2. I went to this link that was on rootzwiki. sorry i'm not allowed yet to post link but I can't download any of the files and I don't know which file to download. Sorry I'm new to this.
Please help me find the zip file to flash to get back to 2.3.3 so I can run revolutionary and get S-off
Thank you in advance
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just follow this guide it has everything you need along with great instructions to get s-off http://androidforums.com/incredible...wngrade-firmware-build-6-01-605-05-newer.html
zedwards said:
Out of thoroughness, why do you want to have s-off?
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I want to flash the new radios when I flash viper rom
ArslanQureshi said:
just follow this guide it has everything you need along with great instructions to get s-off
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Thank you very much! This did the trick! Guide was really easy to follow
atticustcx said:
I want to flash the new radios when I flash viper rom
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That's a lot of work (downgrading to get s-off) just to change the rom You just need to unlock for that, not S-off FWIW
zedwards said:
That's a lot of work (downgrading to get s-off) just to change the rom You just need to unlock for that, not S-off FWIW
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he said he wanted to flash radios that needs s-off
zedwards said:
That's a lot of work (downgrading to get s-off) just to change the rom You just need to unlock for that, not S-off FWIW
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the guide was really easy to follow. the step by step on tacoroot. just make sure your sdk is up to date and add the path in advanced system settings "environment variables" for platform tools. make sure miniadb_inc2 is on root of C drive. follow steps. I think the little details can really throw some one off. It happened to me
But yeah I got S-off flashed the ICS firmware for the new radio 0320
Running Viper ROM 1.3.1
Well when ur flashing custom kernels or firmware its a lot better to be s-off that way you dont wind up turning your phone into a paperweight. Besides a lot more customization can be of use with s-off vs unlocked boot loader. Hope this helps.