Dish Network Offering to Buy Sprint in $25.5B Deal
This merger is interesting because more money could mean faster deployment of LTE
More spectrum could mean more coverage and/or faster data speeds.
A quick note about spectrum from the DISH investor presentation:
*DISH holds licenses to 45 MHz of spectrum
*Consumers will now have access to a package of mobile video channels via high-powered 700MHz band.
Some very big potential benefits. However I have never had DISH service and would like to know how they treat their customers?
Update from S4GRU on the spectrum holdings of DISH:
AWS-4 band: 2000-2020 MHz x 2180-2200 MHz (nationwide)
Lower 700 MHz E block: 722-728 MHz (nationwide, except New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Boston, San Francisco)
Source: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/3...for-255-billion/page__hl__dish__fromsearch__1
I hear Dish is not very friendly towards customers. They would most indefinitely remove unlimited data to make more money off sprint subs. Also, it's likely Hesse would be out the door. I'd rather Sprint stick with Softbank.
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I hear Dish is not very friendly towards customers. They would most indefinitely remove unlimited data to make more money off sprint subs. Also, it's likely Hesse would be out the door. I'd rather Sprint stick with Softbank.
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I agree if dish get sprint we loose Unlimited data for sure dish is horrible to there customers from my experience. There coast a lot to
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I hear Dish is not very friendly towards customers. They would most indefinitely remove unlimited data to make more money off sprint subs. Also, it's likely Hesse would be out the door. I'd rather Sprint stick with Softbank.
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This is what I am seeing in comments on lots of sites today....scary stuff, it seems like Sprint should stay far away from a company with very poor customer service.
Spectrum means A LOT.
But why did Dish wait so long to make an offer? Seems odd. This will, especially if Sprint ultimately opts for the Dish deal, slow down the buyout process. That means it will take that much longer for Sprint to have cash, which means it will be that much longer before we have a network. The process of Sprint's upgrades gets pushed back for the millionth time.
Remember when Sprints goal was to have the upgrade process relatively completed by this years end? Yeah, maybe 2015. Maybe. Probably about the time big red starts rolling out "5G." (Joking... Well, half joking.)
Sprint isn't known for making wise decisions. Now that they have an option, look for them to take the crappier deal.
The SoftBank acquisition was nice because it seemed there would have been minimal changes on our end. It had more of the look of an investment than a buyout.
But SPECTRUM! In this day and age that's worth more than cash. Even though it appears they offered more of that too, with a reported less stake in the company. Edit: Less cash, with stock offer.
All in all, I have a year left on contract, I hope the buyout is completed by then (whichever one) so I'll have a better idea whether or not it is best to stick with Sprint.
They were already bought by soft bank so technically Dish would be buying Softbank, that is of course of it goes through but I hope Dish doesn't get it. They are horrendous
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They were already bought by soft bank so technically Dish would be buying Softbank
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That deal has not gone through yet. Sprint had accepted the deal, but it wasn't due to be finalized until this summer. Sprint could back out and go with Dish.
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I agree if dish get sprint we loose Unlimited data for sure dish is horrible to there customers from my experience. There coast a lot to
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If unlimited data is eliminated or the prices go up too much, I'd have to make the jump to another carrier... We all know that Sprint's network isn't stellar (yet, hopefully), so the main things keeping me here are the unlimited data and (relatively) low prices. If Dish Network does buy Sprint and the predictions are true, it'd most likely be enough to lose me as a customer. (and because I'm egotistical, that must be the worst thing that could happen to Sprint. Just kidding!)
I have dish network and there costumer service is great.. At least for me. . Also my bill is only 57 dollars a month.. And I get almost all the channels including blockbuster on demand.. And I can watch the on my phone, tablet, or computer. . I can even watch what I have on my dvr.. I love dish network and if they buy sprint, then we will have pretty much a empty spectrum. . Which means faster data because it won't be over crowded like it is now.
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I have dish network and there costumer service is great.. At least for me. . Also my bill is only 57 dollars a month.. And I get almost all the channels including blockbuster on demand.. And I can watch the on my phone, tablet, or computer. . I can even watch what I have on my dvr.. I love dish network and if they buy sprint, then we will have pretty much a empty spectrum. . Which means faster data because it won't be over crowded like it is now.
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Man you're lucky. I had dish for 2 years and they kept putting random charges on my bill and would never help me out. I hope sprint doesn't give in. Lol
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Well I only had it for a couple of months now. . So hopefully they don't stay adding a bunch of charges to my bill
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would be nice
could be a good deal. bundle.
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Man you're lucky. I had dish for 2 years and they kept putting random charges on my bill and would never help me out. I hope sprint doesn't give in. Lol
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Sounds like time Warner. Bill went from 150-185 in 3 months.
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Yeah, I'd Hate to lose my unlimited data. That would suck. And dish isn't kindly to their customers.
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I'm lucky to be in a really good Sprint affiliate area. I would hope that if this buyout happens, it wouldn't change much but I'm sure it will be bad for all customers.
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I have dish network and there costumer service is great.. At least for me. . Also my bill is only 57 dollars a month.. And I get almost all the channels including blockbuster on demand.. And I can watch the on my phone, tablet, or computer. . I can even watch what I have on my dvr.. I love dish network and if they buy sprint, then we will have pretty much a empty spectrum. . Which means faster data because it won't be over crowded like it is now.
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I'd have to agree with you. I have dish and the only complaint I have had is when the get in contract disputes with channels and drop em until the issue is resolved. Other than that they have the best pricing for satellite HDTV and high speed satnet. DirecTV is a fu*king joke I pay half of their basic package for full premium HDTV including all movie channels. Their satnet is a little pricy at $120/mo for 40gbs but it's also the fastest of all the satnet options at 15/5 or 15/10 depending on the package, where most other's are 5/1 or at best 10/5. Hughesnet only offers a max 7.5/2 @ 15gb for $80/mo and $10/gb overage. Dish's overage is $10/5gb block. Every time I've had a complaint they knock $10-50 off my bill plus give us an additional $30 towards PPV. Their customer service is always polite and friendly and overly apologetic and the sat only goes down in extremely heavy rains and its only out for about 30mins max, typically less than 10, while it relocks another available sat. I also don't see Hesse allowing dish to remove unlimited if they struck up a deal as that's his big selling point and something he touts like its his first born child.
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I have a question that someone might have a answer to but might not...say DISH does buy sprint and then comes in and removed unlimited data from everyone's plan. Technically they are changing or breaking the contract we signed up for so could we leave them without an ETF because they are the one's that are changing it?
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I have a question that someone might have a answer to but might not...say DISH does buy sprint and then comes in and removed unlimited data from everyone's plan. Technically they are changing or breaking the contract we signed up for so could we leave them without an ETF because they are the one's that are changing it?
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Yes, if they don't grandfather in existing customers or allow you to keep your existing plan thru the end of your current contract. There's ways for them to get around letting you out ETF free when they make changes like that.
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Dish in my opinion is a joke. They are cheap but you get service you pay for. They have possibly the worst customer service ever. There is a reason they lose customers each year and are rated poorly year after year.
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I don't use unlimited data anymore. Ever since I got a home wifi router, I use less than 200MB data a month.
I pay $75 a month for the cheapest, employer discounted plan with Sprint.
It seems like ATT would offer $40 (cheapest phone) + $20 (300MB data) - employer discount (I don't know how much). So, I'd be paying a much lower monthly charge with ATT.
Or so it seems. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Plus, I'll be getting One X (s4) just after it was released, enjoying a new gen phone.
Your thoughts?
Sounds like a no brainer.
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Sounds like the smarter move to just go with ATT. You'd save a few bucks, which add up over time. I'd do it if you don't need/use the unlimited data.
I think it makes sense for you to switch if your cancellation with Sprint isn't too painful. If there are multiple phones on the account, multiply the cancellation fees.
Im a data holic but if you really dont use a lot of data then its a no brainer
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Don't forget texting. That's an additional 20 or 30, I can't remember, unless you use Google voice
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At&t is 20 for unlimited text on a single plan and 30 on a family plan.
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I say go to att
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I don't use unlimited data anymore. Ever since I got a home wifi router, I use less than 200MB data a month.
I pay $75 a month for the cheapest, employer discounted plan with Sprint.
It seems like ATT would offer $40 (cheapest phone) + $20 (300MB data) - employer discount (I don't know how much). So, I'd be paying a much lower monthly charge with ATT.
Or so it seems. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Plus, I'll be getting One X (s4) just after it was released, enjoying a new gen phone.
Your thoughts?
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20 for 300mb of data? That's highway robbery. I hope you don't want to send or receive texts because that's another charge. ATT nickle and dime their customers to death. If you want cheap, and it's available, go with a prepay account or go with metropcs. From your explanation, it doesn't look like you're going to get insurance for your phone. You say you'll be getting a one x when you go there yet you don't want to use data on the network. What's the use of getting one of the top of the line phones with LTE when you want to only get the 300mb data per month option? To me, that doesn't make much sense. I'm assuming you have a e4gt now. Why don't you get a free basic phone from ATT and use your e4gt on wifi only? You can save another 20 bucks by not getting data on a free phone. I don't care what you do, that's your decision. Some people have left only to find out the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence.
Also how is call service? My friend gets all data no phone. And even data is comparable to everyone else.
When I had att my calls would drop in the same spots sprint calls would not even in between cities
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I was with att for 8 years and refuse to go back. Customer service is horrible and I always had dropped calls. Plus they nickel and dime you for everything they can.
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Just remember the AT&T One X has a locked down bootloader. I worked for AT&T as a Field Technician for several years. I had to constantly use my personal phone because of AT&T's awful network.
Look into T-Mobile if you really need to change. They should save you some money.
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Also, I currently have a BB through AT&T for work and the signal is so spotty I just use Exchange on my E4GT. My boss has an iPhone that constantly drops calls.
As far as T-mo goes, I had them for 8 years in KC and dropped 2 calls the whole time. Maybe look at an unlocked GNex for 399 and go with one of their pre-paid plans.
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In all honesty, every US carrier sucks. I've used and sold every major post-paid carrier except US Cellular (although I've yet to hear anything good about them).
AT&T doesn't need you, and they'll make sure you know that when coming to them with problems. Their coverage is shoddy, the network goes down frequently and their bills are loaded with unexplainable fees and charges.
Verizon has decent coverage but they suffer from network congestion. Their phones are priced way too high and they lack services for the price paid. They also look for any and every reason to charge you additional fees or kick you out with a termination fee.
T-Mobile has terrible coverage and an awful call/text network (need to send texts a dozen times to go through). Their prices are great and their customer service is okay. Decent selection of phones. Great choice for someone who doesn't text, use a lot of data or travel.
Sprint has pretty good coverage, but data speeds are pretty bad. Even corporate management makes jokes on a daily basis about it. They originally had fantastic plan pricing, but are slowly getting more and more like big red by adding on fees, tweaking discounts to rake in more cash and subtly changing the ToS to impose artificial limits on the term "unlimited". I firmly believe that the only reason Sprint's customer service was rated #1 is a 50/50 split between customer care lying to the customers and store reps guilt tripping customers into giving only perfect scores on surveys.
Seeing as Boost and Virgin will be picking up Sprint's WiMax network, I would see no reason to stay with Sprint were my service actually costing me anything. Funny that my phone is free yet I still catch myself thinking up ways to weasel out of my contract.
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I've rarely done surveys. I block their phone number when they call too. I love when my gf is a smart ass towards them. Csr: Can you say I helped you resolve your issue today? Her: I don't know, I'll have to wait and see if it works now. I'll sometimes feel like being a troll and score them the lowest marks.
Sprint 3g in my area is some short not even 3g !
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I suppose all the carriers are like that. In some places they have good or acceptable service, and other places its horrible.
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I've rarely done surveys. I block their phone number when they call too. I love when my gf is a smart ass towards them. Csr: Can you say I helped you resolve your issue today? Her: I don't know, I'll have to wait and see if it works now. I'll sometimes feel like being a troll and score them the lowest marks.
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Those survey probably help determine how much a kid with a bunch of student debt gets paid. Wtg, ****. Really funny.
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Why are you even considering that change? Go to boost mobile. $50 period. All unlimited, no contract.
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20 for 300mb of data? That's highway robbery.
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More like....airwave robbery. YEEEEAAAAHHHH.
But seriously, if you aren't taking full advantage of the unlimited data and the competitors network in your area is better, I would definitely switch. Personally, my data speeds are so terrible I don't even bother using my phone off of Wifi. Yet my girlfriends AT&T SGS2 hauls ass pretty much everywhere she goes.
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I firmly believe that the only reason Sprint's customer service was rated #1 is a 50/50 split between customer care lying to the customers and store reps guilt tripping customers into giving only perfect scores on surveys.
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I said this all the time to my SAR, when he started being a **** about CSAT averages. It is easy to brag about it, when you are padding and stuffing the stats. It is such a snake oil salesman tactic, and I encouraged my customers to answer honestly. I will never beg for a five.
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Ahhhhh damn here we go again.....LOL
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/sprint-cancelling-early-upgrades/
"Like dominoes, Sprint's consumer-friendly policies continue to fall one at a time. Citing "high costs," the Now Network will begin discontinuing its practice of allowing customers to upgrade their phone 10-14 days prior to the official date of eligibility" - They aint lying
Not too bad, but still disappointing.
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Eh, no big deal to me. But it sucks for those that take advantage of it. Thanks for sharing.
Yea its not earth shattering but its just another broken link in the chain of bad decisions by Sprint lately. The sad part is you sit back and go what next...
In my point of veiw all sprint has done the last year is raise cost for us! We customers who wanted 4g and bought the evo 4g most never seen or connected to 4g. 3G speeds are beyond terrible and downright bog to 1X kind of speed during busy hours. At this point the cost between Sprint and verizon service is closing more and more as we speak. So I can expect many more customers to think, Why not go to a service with great data and call connectivity. Sprint really had a good think going with cost effective plans, but since have taken away many things like discounts on all lines, premier customers, ect ect. I know they are still cheaper but for how long and when will we see good data speeds like other companies? We are dead last in that!
How on earth is two weeks early costly?
Personally my biggest regret is getting my S2...not because I don't like the phone, but Sprint's data service is just godawfully slow. I bet I use less than 50M a month. The second I get home I go to WiFi and when I'm out and about I just don't bother as the 3G is a joke.
Unless Sprint gets LTE here in Iowa by mid 2013, I'll pay the early termination fee for our lines and go to Verizon. When I'm a meeting a work I'll have my coworker look stuff up on his Galaxy Nexus...with the 8-12 MB download speeds from Verizon.
Life could certainly be worse, but my data speeds have nowhere to go but up.
I don't see this as a big deal whatsoever. The last line of the memo is the most important Imo. Everyone is eligible for upgrade the 1st of the month their contract is up. What more can you ask for?
As far as sprint saving money, not sure how really. I mean by allowing an early upgrade they are guaranteeing 22 months of payment out of you. Most of us would use that 2 weeks to get a new phone on launch, right? What happens when instead of getting a launch phone with them early, another carrier has a new phone being released when your contract is up? I'm blabbing, but what I'm saying is if they let me upgrade a little early I would be more likely to stay with that provider. But if I wait then I'm suddenly out of contract, which would make me shop around carriers.
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I see potential loss here, because they are basically giving sprint customers a reason to shop around while off contract instead of always keeping us in contract by allowing early upgrades.
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ib4 'would this allow me to get out w/o paying ETF', 'is this a breach of contract?', etc
Figures... Admittedly the 3g speeds are ridiculously slow... The only thing keeping me with sprint is the unlimited data... When that goes out the window so do I...
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Another nickel in the nickel-and-diming Sprint is doing causing customer losses.
Could be worse, verizon is removing all grandfathered plans with unlimited data:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/
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Another nickel in the nickel-and-diming Sprint is doing causing customer losses.
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Exactly, if you treat this as a separate event then its not a big deal but if you start to add up all that has happened in the past year and since the Iphone came aboard and it may upset you especially if you took 2 minutes to have this page refresh due to network restraints....
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Could be worse, verizon is removing all grandfathered plans with unlimited data:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/
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Was just going to post this.
All that monthly cost just to get bent over lololol
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Was just going to post this.
All that monthly cost just to get bent over lololol
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Yeah, I do wish I had verizon for their great coverage, thats what I had before my parents kicked me off of their plan.
But hey I don't mind my virgin mobile: 1200min/unlimited text/unlimited data for $40 a month. I am pretty happy with that. Even have unlimited wimax 4g
I will probably switch over to sprint in a year or two though when I can afford it better.
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Personally my biggest regret is getting my S2...not because I don't like the phone, but Sprint's data service is just godawfully slow. I bet I use less than 50M a month. The second I get home I go to WiFi and when I'm out and about I just don't bother as the 3G is a joke.
Unless Sprint gets LTE here in Iowa by mid 2013, I'll pay the early termination fee for our lines and go to Verizon. When I'm a meeting a work I'll have my coworker look stuff up on his Galaxy Nexus...with the 8-12 MB download speeds from Verizon.
Life could certainly be worse, but my data speeds have nowhere to go but up.
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i live in Iowa as well. all my friends have Verizon as well. they do have nice service but they can only use 2gb a month or they pay out the ass. i get around 1mb down most days and i use about 10-16gb of data per month. my bill has never gone up and no one at sprint cares.
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I think this is a good move. You guys that are complaining about it need to see what we see in the stores. This 14 day early deal is confusing to customers and abused by third party stores. The cost savings are in reduced overrides that are done when customers come in confused. Id rather have a consistent, fair policy than one that can be used to work the system by some and not taken advantage of by others. The upgrade now promo is a perfect example of a policy change that makes sense. Customers in March could pay to reset their upgrade regardless of the plan they were on. Instead of yearly upgrades for customers on expensive plans, now anyone could get it with a little extra cash if they need it.
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i live in Iowa as well. all my friends have Verizon as well. they do have nice service but they can only use 2gb a month or they pay out the ass. i get around 1mb down most days and i use about 10-16gb of data per month. my bill has never gone up and no one at sprint cares.
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Don't let my girlfriend see your posts. She has a Verizon Gnex but the 4g is nearly useless. We live an hour away from the Quad Cities and Verizon's 4g only covers the core of that area.
At least with Sprint, there's no teasing just out of range prospect of 4g!
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Don't let my girlfriend see your posts. She has a Verizon Gnex but the 4g is nearly useless. We live an hour away from the Quad Cities and Verizon's 4g only covers the core of that area.
At least with Sprint, there's no teasing just out of range prospect of 4g!
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She should be getting LTE by end of this year, though...with Sprint...I may be retired before it happens.
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How on earth is two weeks early costly?
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cause if you do it everytime you can over 54 years you just got a free phone.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/11/us-sprint-softbank-idUSBRE89A0I520121011
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As long as they don't mess with our prices and speed up the 4G rollout I'm happy
It would be great if we could get better roaming rates in Japan, but I don't think it works that way, does it? I don't think T-Mobile users in the USA get cheaper roaming in Germany.
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They negotiating to get a 2/3 stake in Sprint... to get access to Clearwires spectrum that should be global in a few years...
If this helps improve their network, I'm all for it.
Hey what happened to lightsquared lol
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Hey what happened to lightsquared lol
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Lightsquared went far more south than that slut on me last week =)
This has some potentials.
2/3 owning state in Sprint would give control to them.
It would give Sprint a pretty healthy infusion of cash.
It gives Softbank access to more spectrum.
It gives Softbank the roaming agreements in the USA that it wanted.
It gives Softbank access to more phone systems they may want and possibly in reverse to Sprint.
It'll drive Sprint's stock price up. Short term anyway.
It has the potential to make Softbank/Sprint and everything else they own one of the largest global cell providers.
More than likely Sprint will continue to be treated independently in the USA under the guiding hand of them. Until they figure out what they want, I suspect pricing, unl data, etc won't change for awhile. After 2 years, anyone's guess tho.
Makes me sad because the possibility of Google buying Sprint goes down further
It wasn't ever gonna happen
Nobody wants sprint's debt
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It wasn't ever gonna happen
Nobody wants sprint's debt
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TMo and Sprint are definitely seeing gains from Verizon's apathy toward its customers. This Network Vision could really change the game.
We may see a lot of new devices come out too
i knew my "$10 premium data fee" on 4 lines was being used for something!!! it darn sure hasn't been used for getting me "premium data" since I started paying it over 2 1/2 yrs ago!!
"By raising some new equity directly, Sprint would be able to shore up its balance sheet and potentially fund other deals such as a buyout of Clearwire in which it already holds roughly 48 percent."
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i knew my "$10 premium data fee" on 4 lines was being used for something!!! it darn sure hasn't been used for getting me "premium data" since I started paying it over 2 1/2 yrs ago!!
"By raising some new equity directly, Sprint would be able to shore up its balance sheet and potentially fund other deals such as a buyout of Clearwire in which it already holds roughly 48 percent."
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Give it up already. Same post in a few different threads now? C'mon man.
We get it...you hate Sprint and everything about them. Obviously that statement pertains to the cash they'd receive in selling a majority stake in their company.
I wouldn't fathom some of that money we've all been paying has gone towards the biggest network upgrade any cell provider has ever gone through...upgrading every single of their 30,000+ towers? No, it couldn't be something like that.
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Give it up already. Same post in a few different threads now? C'mon man.
We get it...you hate Sprint and everything about them. Obviously that statement pertains to the cash they'd receive in selling a majority stake in their company.
I wouldn't fathom some of that money we've all been paying has gone towards the biggest network upgrade any cell provider has ever gone through...upgrading every single of their 30,000+ towers? No, it couldn't be something like that.
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man calm the hell down...we get it..you love where you work(or you're an advocate/lobbyist) and I just posted this...why jump on it if you hate seeing it???
and the irony is...now you have "the same post in different threads"...and why are you STILL going into that thread if you hate it and disagree with 90% of the people in it!!!!!!!!!!!
and your last comment makes no sense!!!!
"Sprint, whose market capitalization was $15.12 billion at Wednesday's market close, is the third-largest U.S. carrier, with more than 56 million users at the end of June, even after losing customers for years.'
Now, how do you lose customers for years and have market capitalization GO UP????????????????? over the last few years?...you charge them ridiculous meaningless fees..and reduce their discounts!!!!thats how!!
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Lightsquared went far more south than that slut on me last week =)
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Rim job
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Got damn! pretty soon China and Japan will buy out the United State. Then we would have to work in the rice farm....SUX
Japan didn't lose in WWII, they just changed the nature of their warfare.
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i knew my "$10 premium data fee" on 4 lines was being used for something!!! it darn sure hasn't been used for getting me "premium data" since I started paying it over 2 1/2 yrs ago!!
"By raising some new equity directly, Sprint would be able to shore up its balance sheet and potentially fund other deals such as a buyout of Clearwire in which it already holds roughly 48 percent."
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It is no longer a premium data fee and they are still the cheapest national provider. Yeah their speeds are sub par but as long as it stays unlimited i dont care and im very happy.
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Got damn! pretty soon China and Japan will buy out the United State. Then we would have to work in the rice farm....SUX
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Please dont be one of those ppl that thinks china = japan
i swear i saw like 3 diff versions of this rumor today , i heard full buyout the 2/3rds buyout and i also heard a 11% stake in sprint. now which one is it -_-
im all for a 11% stake cuz that would give them the funds to speed up 4g rollouts just no raised prices please...
im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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Dude.
How do you force roam?
I've been trying to figure it out.
And they should have sent you a warning in the mail after about 500mb of roaming, hopefully they didn't find out the scheme lol.
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long timre ago before i went to boost I asked a agent if I left sprint when could I come back to get a deal like a new customer she said 6 month.
If they boot you for excessive roaming its a 50/50 shot whether you get out without an etf. Just man up and pay it and cut your losses. Btw if you burn them they might not be so tempted to bring you back.
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Dude.
How do you force roam?
I've been trying to figure it out.
And they should have sent you a warning in the mail after about 500mb of roaming, hopefully they didn't find out the scheme lol.
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U force roam by downloading the verizon prl to the root of ur internal memory, rename it to TEST.prl, the go to ur dialer and press ##3282# .. some menus come up... u click on prl write and then write prl.. phone reboots and ur done.. check ur prl number in about phone and check to see if its anything other than 5502 or what ever the new sprint prl is.
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If they boot you for excessive roaming its a 50/50 shot whether you get out without an etf. Just man up and pay it and cut your losses. Btw if you burn them they might not be so tempted to bring you back.
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The whole reason for force roaming is not wanting to pay the etf. Its not fair to have to pay alot of money for a service ur not getting.. and I live in a city that has been one of the "test" cities for both wimax and LTE. So we got it first. But doesnt seem to do us any good if they say the antennas have been upgraded but the speeds do not reflect it.
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The whole reason for force roaming is not wanting to pay the etf. Its not fair to have to pay alot of money for a service ur not getting.. and I live in a city that has been one of the "test" cities for both wimax and LTE. So we got it first. But doesnt seem to do us any good if they say the antennas have been upgraded but the speeds do not reflect it.
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It's not fair people like you are too cheap to honor your contract either. It's people who do sh!t like this thay cause prices for the rest of us to increase and perks to be taken away. Sprint has to make money or they can't stay in business. You signed the contract be an adult and honor it. Pay the ETF if you want out instead of finding a loophole to fraudulently break it. Hopefully sprint catches on to this soon and instead of dropping people etf free slap em with a collections debt after cutting em off and make em pay the etf AND roaming charges they racked up trying to get out.
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I agree it is un fair to not pay the ETF. If you singed a contract you have to honor it. Sprint has always been fair to me when I was having problems before they updated to LTE and while they were updating they offered me to get out my contact free because they could see I was having real bad voice and everything. I told them nope ill deal with it so they gave me a 275$ credit my bill was 75 for 3 lines for 4 months and now I get 15+ download all day anf 1-5 up it great and im glad I waited out
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It's not fair people like you are too cheap to honor your contract either. It's people who do sh!t like this thay cause prices for the rest of us to increase and perks to be taken away. Sprint has to make money or they can't stay in business. You signed the contract be an adult and honor it. Pay the ETF if you want out instead of finding a loophole to fraudulently break it. Hopefully sprint catches on to this soon and instead of dropping people etf free slap em with a collections debt after cutting em off and make em pay the etf AND roaming charges they racked up trying to get out.
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im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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There is no point in being booted on purpose to just come back later. If that's the case then just wait it out. If you really want to get it I would call them and tell them service really sucks and if they can compensate you. I waited out and now little by little Sprint is getting better and better. I just hit lte in my town and hopefully it will be announced officially.
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I agree with the above.
Actually, it's what the OP purposes that has made it illegal to jailbreak/root phones, again, and try to bring them to another carrier. The carriers complained the government about how much money they loose because of it.
As for the OP issue, check your contract, but you might have some unlimited roaming; I forget if it's data or voice. On the same note, the bars you see, usually have little do with data; that's for voice. Thus, you go by the data connection icons--3g, 4g, etc. With that said, if it's really you may want to check out the Sprint coverage map. There is also another map that shows worked done and scheduled to done. I know for me, I get 3G and 4G around where I live. It's not everywhere. 4G speeds are no where near what I see other posts; I get in the 5 to 7mpbs down, and about 1mbps up on 4G, and around 1.5mpbs down, and .75mpbs up on 3g.
I would call Sprint and let them know your issue. It's possible they'll give you one of those 4G adapters that you can use at home with your internet. I'm not sure it's just for voice, or does data as well. I realize this may work because of lack of home internet.
Lastly, do you have the same issue inside buildings versus outside. If inside, it's possible that radio signal just can't penetrate the walls. Concrete is a notorious for this on the radio frequency that Sprint uses.
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I agree it is un fair to not pay the ETF. If you singed a contract you have to honor it. Sprint has always been fair to me when I was having problems before they updated to LTE and while they were updating they offered me to get out my contact free because they could see I was having real bad voice and everything. I told them nope ill deal with it so they gave me a 275$ credit my bill was 75 for 3 lines for 4 months and now I get 15+ download all day anf 1-5 up it great and im glad I waited out
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only in america do we get phones for 199.00 and under....and it is ETF's and contract fees that make up the lost dollars..Note 2 in Japan...yeah $800 american dollars..no discounts..upgrades none of that..you want it...you buy it..
so quit your crying and put your big boy pants on.
I've been on Verizon PRL for over 2gb and they haven't even told me anything lol...
Trying to get out of this and get at&t
Freaking 55mb down speed in my town with at&t
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I've been on Verizon PRL for over 2gb and they haven't even told me anything lol...
Trying to get out of this and get at&t
Freaking 55mb down speed in my town with at&t
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It takes several months and lately they haven't been letting people out ETF free. They usually send a warning letter then if you don't stop they charge you for the roaming per mb or they drop you and charge you a non prorated ETF so you pay the full ETF. Occasionally if there's upgrades in your area they let you out free or they just let the roaming slide and do nothing at all. Its a 50/50 shot either you're out free or still on contract or you're out with a nice bill and a hit on your credit report when you don't pay it. The majority of posts I've seen lately are you get hit with a bill. Probably due to the Softbank merger and the money they are pouring into the network, they have to recoup their losses or they won't stay in business. Not to mention you signed a contract agreeing to pay your bill or ETF and it states right in the contract roaming data is capped at 300mb a month or the majority of data used, voice is 800min or majority of minutes used.
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It takes several months and lately they haven't been letting people out ETF free. They usually send a warning letter then if you don't stop they charge you for the roaming per mb or they drop you and charge you a non prorated ETF so you pay the full ETF. Occasionally if there's upgrades in your area they let you out free or they just let the roaming slide and do nothing at all. Its a 50/50 shot either you're out free or still on contract or you're out with a nice bill and a hit on your credit report when you don't pay it. The majority of posts I've seen lately are you get hit with a bill. Probably due to the Softbank merger and the money they are pouring into the network, they have to recoup their losses or they won't stay in business. Not to mention you signed a contract agreeing to pay your bill or ETF and it states right in the contract roaming data is capped at 300mb a month or the majority of data used, voice is 800min or majority of minutes used.
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Where in the world are people getting the idea that you get out ETF free?
Not ONLY will they put a collections record against you if you don't pay the ETF (and they will charge you), they can per the contract charge you for the roaming.
I've been dealing with slow data speeds in my market for almost 3 years now. I'm talking 300kbps 3G if I'm LUCKY! MAX I've seen is 700 and that's at 4AM on a Tuesday.
It's STILL the best deal in town for a truly unlimited plan. Verizon, ATT blow donkey balls with the ****ty 5GB cap or whatever it is. Then you've got T-Mobile trying to pass off HSPA+ as 4G...
I'm sorry, I use more data than that. Not all the time, and not alot more, but I average 5-8 a month... No tethering as my Note2 is my computer now. I'm on wifi ALOT, but still enjoy mobile streaming, and that just eats up bandwidth.
Either deal with it, or sell your phone and use the profit to pay the ETF like a grown up. Burning up Verizon's bandwidth is going to do nothing but add to a statistic for reasons why carriers either A) won't allow roaming or B) be the cause for some BS legislation making rooting a freaking criminal offense.
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Where in the world are people getting the idea that you get out ETF free?
Not ONLY will they put a collections record against you if you don't pay the ETF (and they will charge you), they can per the contract charge you for the roaming.
I've been dealing with slow data speeds in my market for almost 3 years now. I'm talking 300kbps 3G if I'm LUCKY! MAX I've seen is 700 and that's at 4AM on a Tuesday.
It's STILL the best deal in town for a truly unlimited plan. Verizon, ATT blow donkey balls with the ****ty 5GB cap or whatever it is. Then you've got T-Mobile trying to pass off HSPA+ as 4G...
I'm sorry, I use more data than that. Not all the time, and not alot more, but I average 5-8 a month... No tethering as my Note2 is my computer now. I'm on wifi ALOT, but still enjoy mobile streaming, and that just eats up bandwidth.
Either deal with it, or sell your phone and use the profit to pay the ETF like a grown up. Burning up Verizon's bandwidth is going to do nothing but add to a statistic for reasons why carriers either A) won't allow roaming or B) be the cause for some BS legislation making rooting a freaking criminal offense.
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Because for the last few years instead of dealing with the whiny people who want to roam their way out of the contract sprint just terminated them with no penalties. Now however sprint's balls are finally starting to drop and they ARE charging at least the ETF and sometimes the ETF and roaming charges. Other times they just slap a charge on your bill for all the roaming and leave you contract bound. The roaming loophole has gotten a few out and then they post about it so every cheapskate that doesn't want to pay or wait but wants out has done it. Sprint's finally getting sick of it but they still aren't consistent enough to nail everyone. I think they should put the persons ssn# in a database and bar them from any telecommunications contracts and stiff em with prepaid only. Or have some kind of special plans for people who show a flag for weaseling out of the contract and block them from ever roaming so they're stuck not being able to rack up a bunch of charges for the carrier cuz they don't wanna hold up their end of the agreement. In my line of work you pull **** like this and we charge you with felony fraud and put your ass in jail for doing shady **** to breach your contract.
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Because for the last few years instead of dealing with the whiny people who want to roam their way out of the contract sprint just terminated them with no penalties. Now however sprint's balls are finally starting to drop and they ARE charging at least the ETF and sometimes the ETF and roaming charges. Other times they just slap a charge on your bill for all the roaming and leave you contract bound. The roaming loophole has gotten a few out and then they post about it so every cheapskate that doesn't want to pay or wait but wants out has done it. Sprint's finally getting sick of it but they still aren't consistent enough to nail everyone. I think they should put the persons ssn# in a database and bar them from any telecommunications contracts and stiff em with prepaid only. Or have some kind of special plans for people who show a flag for weaseling out of the contract and block them from ever roaming so they're stuck not being able to rack up a bunch of charges for the carrier cuz they don't wanna hold up their end of the agreement. In my line of work you pull **** like this and we charge you with felony fraud and put your ass in jail for doing shady **** to breach your contract.
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Well the Sprint should upgrade because I don't even get a Sprint signal . In my own home, I have to be on a Verizon PRL to even text or make phone calls in my own house.
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Well the Sprint should upgrade because I don't even get a Sprint signal . In my own home, I have to be on a Verizon PRL to even text or make phone calls in my own house.
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Maybe you should pay your etf and switch providers. You had 14days to cancel your contract free when you signed up that's more than enough time to figure out sprint doesn't work at your house. Or call and request an airrave.
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If your going to be coming back eventually anyway. Call and have your acct put on seasonal standby. Costs 8 $ a month but your acct will be in tact when ya come back. As for ETFs, good luck. The only exception to waiving it for now is. If your a Nextel user and they migrate you to cdma and you don't have any coverage. And by coverage I mean, no Sprint towers around. They use the coverage map to determine coverage not user experience. OR You recently moved to an area with no Sprint coverage, again no coverage per the coverage map.
The roaming situation does not work anymore due to contracts with other carriers for use of network. I can't tell you the last time I seen someone get booted due to roaming. Hell 90% of North Dakota is Off Network and we have several thousand subscribers up there.
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Maybe you should pay your etf and switch providers. You had 14days to cancel your contract free when you signed up that's more than enough time to figure out sprint doesn't work at your house. Or call and request an airrave.
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Well I moved 2 months after getting onto Sprint. I got a good signal at my previous home but don't get a single bar at my new home.
I'm damn sure not paying 400 dollars to get out of the contract when I could stay on Verizon's PRL and wait until 4g hits.
If it ever does.
At this rate we won't get it until next year.
$90 bucks a month for data that barely works.
$90 bucks a month on a plan I thought was gonna cost $70, because that's what I signed up for.
Frankly, Sprint sucks.
Simple as that.
Seriously Sprint needs to step up their game...
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http://www.tmonews.com/2013/07/investor-sees-t-mobile-as-takeover-target-for-dish-network-sprint/
I honestly don't want either to take over. But if I had to choose, I'd choose dish.
With me just coming from Sprint I have this to say
You would have to shoot me in the face to get me to ever give another penny to Sprint. Their 3g data speeds are horrific in most places (even in places that have network vision dine, it's just "meh" speed, still sub par) I could never get above a 20 kb/s download rate. Not to mention how much more expensive they are with their plans (when I was with then, I had the cheapest available, 450 min and unlimited everything else for 69.99 a month.) Back in the day, Sprint could compete, but they let their towers become dated and do to little to late when they finally do decide to do something about it. Not to mention hour they boned their wimax phone buyers.
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Rather it be Dish than Sprint. Had a 4g phone since wimax came out... then LTE.... Still no 4g in Savannah. I said goodbye to them when the S4 came out and switched to tmo. Got them to cancel the early termination fee because of the past few years of bad service in the entire Southeast area of GA and SC. Took a week of convincing.
Then Tmo: It was instant "oh this is what 4g is like!" Roommate is still getting 10-100 KILObytes on Sprint, while I'm getting 15-26mb on Tmo. Suck it Sprint.
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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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This.
And with what money is Sprint buying anyone, TMo isn't exactly Virgin Mobile.
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Lol yes. Very well aware. Different tech. It's just the thought of being a customer of a Sprint owned anything. Seeing them fail so much.
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Thats hillarious. Sprint DOES NOT have the money to take over a network that is triple in size to the one they already have. I also don't see how a tv company wants a cell phone network. I think its a load of garbage. Yes i read the link in the OP. T-Mobile is doing better than a lot of its competition, i seriously don't see Sprint "taking them over". Thats a laughing joke lol. Sprint sucks beyond sucking xD
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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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yes but if sprint takes over, they will probably let the towers become dated like they did their own and we wont see these speeds for long
Seems to me that AT&T tried this not too long ago. The result? Fed Govt said "Nope, not going to happen" AT&T got pissy and walked away.. but not before paying T-Mo a pretty sizeable chunk of cash because the merger didn't go through.
Don't see anyone picking up T-Mo in the near future.
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Seems to me that AT&T tried this not too long ago. The result? Fed Govt said "Nope, not going to happen" AT&T got pissy and walked away.. but not before paying T-Mo a pretty sizeable chunk of cash because the merger didn't go through.
Don't see anyone picking up T-Mo in the near future.
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Exactly. Don't know hat anything has changed either for the Fed to rule otherwise.
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I think this has been rumored for a while and I don't think it will ever happen. T-mobile's patent company, Deutsche Telekom, is a massive company and I don't think they would let tmo go.
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Dish and sprint don't have that kind of money to take over tmobile ...
>O/C GalaxyGS4<
yeah as it was said AT&T tried to buy them out and the US government put a big red flag in that. people (such as myself) are leaving sprint to go with tmo because of the better service and price. plus, not sure if youve seen/heard the commercials but AT&T are trying to stay afloat by copying tmo's not contract deals... oh and to the guy who said something about a tv company buying a cell company.... even though verizon started as a phone company im fairly certain that their tv/internet service is pretty amazing.
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I honestly don't want either to take over. But if I had to choose, I'd choose dish.
With me just coming from Sprint I have this to say
You would have to shoot me in the face to get me to ever give another penny to Sprint. Their 3g data speeds are horrific in most places (even in places that have network vision dine, it's just "meh" speed, still sub par) I could never get above a 20 kb/s download rate. Not to mention how much more expensive they are with their plans (when I was with then, I had the cheapest available, 450 min and unlimited everything else for 69.99 a month.) Back in the day, Sprint could compete, but they let their towers become dated and do to little to late when they finally do decide to do something about it. Not to mention hour they boned their wimax phone buyers.
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You couldn't be more correct about sprint speeds theyve bought people with there cheap lets get 10 people on a line call it a family plan... thats Soooo affordable crap..... and then throw you some 30 kb dload speeds...
Sprint should have went under along tine ago, even metro is better than them
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Damn, other carriers be jelly.
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So is there any actual factual information proving all these points being mentioned. I mean unless anyone here is a top corporate executive or has a mole in the company?
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On the other hand Tmo can take over Sprint and put that company out of business once and for all and put their customers out of their misery.
Sprint will be a lot better in a year. They have cash now because of Softbank. I was surprised they came out with the plans they did just recently but hopefully they lower them so that should help all of us.
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Sprint will be a lot better in a year. They have cash now because of Softbank. I was surprised they came out with the plans they did just recently but hopefully they lower them so that should help all of us.
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Sprint will never have good towers. They are trash. They've had two years to improve since I've left them. My cousin still has them. They suck. They aren't going anywhere.
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I'd have little problem with Dish, it could end up benefiting both sides. Still, T-Mobile stands to benefit less from a takeover now than they would have in the past. On the upswing as a carrier, or so it seems.
US wants 4 "major" carriers so unlikely tmo and sprint would merge anymore than tmo and at&t merger was approved by feds.
As for Dish (puke) they can't hardly run tv without being aluminum siding/used car salesmen. They'd be worse than the old nextel (which is where sprint got 95% of their terrible rape, pillage and burn customer service habits).
Full disclosure: was sprint customer almost 10 years (yes im a suicidal masochist lol) before givi g up in disgust & going to att for 3 and now on tmo.
TBH, only went with tmo because of pretty seamless wifi calling (no carrier signal works worth a dam at my house)
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