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Is defy worth picking up?

So i sold my Desire Z cuz i didnt like the keyboard and it was faulty, so now i need a new phone. I have always had my eyes on the defy right before i even bought my DZ. So now i am between buying the Defy or the Ideos X5, or should i wait and buy a proper and better phone like the SGS II? I dont have any heavy or high usage, i want good call quality, playing some 3d-games, messaging, browsing and checking email and so on.. i can get it for 300€~ here where i live in sweden so do u think defy is worth picking up? I have been watching reviews all the day and i still dont know if i should pick it up or not? whats ur thoughts about this?
i've also heard about the faulty earpiece is this fixed with the new defys or is it still common?
edit: oh ive also got another question: when u decide to put on pattern lock, and when u put the phone to sleep and wake it up does it go through motorola default lock -> unlock pattern -> phone opens or is it unlock pattern -> phone opens?

the whole earpiece fiasco is fixed in new defy's, and if your defy is running 2.1 then yes you can turn of the normal lock screen and only have a pattern, any 2.2 rom will require you to have the lockscreen (so default lock -> unlock pattern -> phone opens) this is a problem of froyo not the defy. I'm unsure but i believe there are apps that remove teh default lock screen

Hi
The earpiece problem was never common just more than average, i know five people including me that have a Defy and non of us has the earpiece Problem.
Moreover we are all very happy with it, its the best android phone that came in to my hands so far. In my opinion, the only phone that can compete from the hardware point of view is the Samsung Wave, but it doesn't have Android on it.
the only reason to buy another is if you want a larger screen, but thats personal taste, i didn't
greetings

I used to have a Desire...i like my Moto Defy much more. This is my 4th Android handset...not due another until next February and i know this phone will be good to me until then!

I came to the defy from a spica and i love this phone: all applications runs very smoothly, and for me having it resistant and waterproof is useful (under rain or at beach
For the earphone problems, it seems that it has been fixed with the reçent deliveries.

Pros of the defy:
Life-proof
Great scree
fast processor (that over-clocks well)
Cons:
Ear-piece failure
MotoBlur
Android 2.1 and very very slow update schedule.
Personally now I have put a blurless 2.2 on and had my ear-piece fixed I like the phone again. My advice go for it, but buy it from somewhere with a generous returns policy!
Olly

Should add I am using the 2.2 rom from ephumuris. Good work mate, cheers!
Olly

ollyshaw said:
Cons:
Ear-piece failure
MotoBlur
Android 2.1 and very very slow update schedule.
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With custom roms and ear-piece fix there is no more cons
But if you want to keep the warranty the cons are still here... That's up to you

ollyshaw said:
Pros of the defy:
Life-proof
Great scree
fast processor (that over-clocks well)
Cons:
Ear-piece failure
MotoBlur
Android 2.1 and very very slow update schedule.
Personally now I have put a blurless 2.2 on and had my ear-piece fixed I like the phone again. My advice go for it, but buy it from somewhere with a generous returns policy!
Olly
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i fail to see how blur is a problem when you can just use launcher pro and forget about blur, even my bog standard defy used as just a phone will hit 5 days of standby. Some people even like blur you know *shock horror*

Jt612 said:
the whole earpiece fiasco is fixed in new defy's, and if your defy is running 2.1 then yes you can turn of the normal lock screen and only have a pattern, any 2.2 rom will require you to have the lockscreen (so default lock -> unlock pattern -> phone opens) this is a problem of froyo not the defy. I'm unsure but i believe there are apps that remove teh default lock screen
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thx mate, but in galaxy S u can use unlock pattern -> phone opens that was something that annoyed me in the desire z, but in my friends galaxy s it worked very well with just unlock pattern...
is the defy hard to root? i heard u only need z4root and then its done?

Z4root didnt work for me on 2.51. Super one click for 2.1 however worked great. Have to run it windows though.
Sent from my Defy on CM7.

despite the hole ear piece problem , i liked it ,cause i've bought jabra street bt headset and i'm using my phone with total freedom plus all the games are working smoothly like nova 2 it's damn perfect.
so i'm one of the biggest fans. even i really recommend it more than ericsson arc
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MrBelter said:
i fail to see how blur is a problem when you can just use launcher pro and forget about blur, even my bog standard defy used as just a phone will hit 5 days of standby. Some people even like blur you know *shock horror*
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The problem with it is not the widgets or the launcher (I use ADW). The problem for me has been wonky Facebook sync and the odd infinite loop and battery drain with the exchange sync. Admittedly I have not seen this with blur on versions 2.51 and above.
Maybe not a big problem, but certainly in my top three gripes.
Olly

I think this phone is a best-buy, especially here in Romania, where you can get it pretty cheap, compared to other phones with a similar screen. For me very important is the screen resolution, and you cannot get any better then this, without going to a tablet. The processor speed is irelevant, and 800MHz is enough for everyday use. It can be overclocked easily.

thx guys 4 ur answers, i am between this and ideos x5...
the problem is that motorola wont upgrade it beyond 2.2, and i havent got the guts to rooting and puting in custom rom on any phone yet cuz the fear of brickning it
btw how is the phone's GPS? i intend to use it in my car for navigation is it trustable?

I've been a big fan of SE for a long time, but Defy really changed my opinion. Don't know how it is in the rest of the world, but in Brazil Motorola is known to be the reference for well built hardware, durable and resistant phones. This phone has also the best trade-off between price and performance here at the moment. Recommended.

it's totally worth it, especially with such a great community of developers like we have here.

where i live (sweden) there is some retailers who will ship the phone with this rom included as stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040777 and with 2.2 aka no blur !
i just need to see SGS II it seems awesome...but the screen is way to big for me

is 346€ worth for a brand new defy running android 2.2 nordic? without a contract ofc. I wonder if its easy to overclock it to 1000mhz? will it drain my battery if i did it? which program to download for overclocking?

romdroid. said:
is 346€ worth for a brand new defy running android 2.2 nordic? without a contract ofc. I wonder if its easy to overclock it to 1000mhz? will it drain my battery if i did it? which program to download for overclocking?
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Naturally it depends on the price of other alternatives. But 346€ is a bit expensive compared with ~270€ in HK. It's easy to overclock. Just root and install SetVsel or Milestone Overclock.

So worth it?

I have one reserved to pick up in my local store now but not sure if its worth it when I got a Galaxy S2 and a iPhone 4S.
The screen is what interests me mostly but no idea how better that is compared to the two phones I have and heard about hardly any apps work on ICS yet e.g Facebook and so on.
Anyone who owns one would you say its worth it or stick to the two phones I have?

recklesslife85 said:
I have one reserved to pick up in my local store now but not sure if its worth it when I got a Galaxy S2 and a iPhone 4S.
The screen is what interests me mostly but no idea how better that is compared to the two phones I have and heard about hardly any apps work on ICS yet e.g Facebook and so on.
Anyone who owns one would you say its worth it or stick to the two phones I have?
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I cant talk for anyone else but myself in this regard. I have had my GN for about 24 hours now and have to say its the most amazing phone I have ever owned. Colours are rich and vibrant. Camera is fast as hell and yet still manages to focus. 5MP is more than enough for a camera, if I want to take professional shots then I will take my 16MP DSLR out but the majority of shots taken with phones are for social networking sites which resizes and compresses the image anyway so it doesnt matter. Speed is smooth as running a hot knife through butter and pretty much every program that I had running on Gingerbread works on this phone. The Tegra2 optimised games obviously wont work (apart from Guerilla Bob which works great) but I think I have installed about 60 apps and games since yesterday and only 3 or 4 havent worked. Facebook and Skype both work on my phone, even video calling works .
The main problems so far are satnavs (closes or stays black) and video players. I will try a few more satnavs and report back. Video players either stop running or wont install but that will soon be sorted so I have no worrys there.
I havent noticed any of the software problems that people are reporting but with a Nexus you HAVE TO REMEMBER that it is the first phone to have the latest software and its inevitable that there will be a few bugs to start with. Thats what updates are for and they will be ironed out soon enough. Developers will quickly update there apps for compatability with ICS and new apps will be made to enhance this beautiful screen.
If you have any more questions please ask away but I would definitely recommend getting it
Mark.

mskip said:
I cant talk for anyone else but myself in this regard. I have had my GN for about 24 hours now and have to say its the most amazing phone I have ever owned. Colours are rich and vibrant. Camera is fast as hell and yet still manages to focus. 5MP is more than enough for a camera, if I want to take professional shots then I will take my 16MP DSLR out but the majority of shots taken with phones are for social networking sites which resizes and compresses the image anyway so it doesnt matter. Speed is smooth as running a hot knife through butter and pretty much every program that I had running on Gingerbread works on this phone. The Tegra2 optimised games obviously wont work (apart from Guerilla Bob which works great) but I think I have installed about 60 apps and games since yesterday and only 3 or 4 havent worked. Facebook and Skype both work on my phone, even video calling works .
The main problems so far are satnavs (closes or stays black) and video players. I will try a few more satnavs and report back. Video players either stop running or wont install but that will soon be sorted so I have no worrys there.
I havent noticed any of the software problems that people are reporting but with a Nexus you HAVE TO REMEMBER that it is the first phone to have the latest software and its inevitable that there will be a few bugs to start with. Thats what updates are for and they will be ironed out soon enough. Developers will quickly update there apps for compatability with ICS and new apps will be made to enhance this beautiful screen.
If you have any more questions please ask away but I would definitely recommend getting it
Mark.
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Thanks for the reply Mark. I love my GS2 and iPhone4s but the screen on the GN just says buy me or im just stupid with money.
Whats the battery life like?

recklesslife85 said:
Thanks for the reply Mark. I love my GS2 and iPhone4s but the screen on the GN just says buy me or im just stupid with money.
Whats the battery life like?
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Well as I have only had the phone a day I cant comment about battery life at all as its been on charge pretty much the whole time. I like to give new phones a good days charge to make sure its maximum benefit from the first charge. Will know more about that after about a week when it starts to settle down into normal life.
The screen IS simply amazing. Its beautifully sharp especially when playing back 720p movies and its got the same coating on as the iphone to resist finger prints so it doesnt get that dirty look as quickly as other phones.
Mark.

Would you be kind enough to install -
https://market.android.com/details?...251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5taWtlcnNtaWNyb3MuZm0iXQ..
Or something similar & let us know if an FM Radio app works?
Ta

Hi Mark, how is the GPS fix time and accuracy compared to, e.g., your HD2? I've heard Samsung quite suck at the GPS department. Does this barometer sensor really helps improving the GPS fix speed like Google developers explained? Thanks.

Thanks mark that is good to know. I would like to switch my gs2 for nexus. Is nexus as smooth in web browsing and overall as gs2?
Could you mesure gps precision with gps test app?
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luffyp said:
Hi Mark, how is the GPS fix time and accuracy compared to, e.g., your HD2? I've heard Samsung quite suck at the GPS department. Does this barometer sensor really helps improving the GPS fix speed like Google developers explained? Thanks.
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Google Nav couldn't get a lock first time I used it. turned it off and back on and it locked quite quickly then.
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recklesslife85 said:
Thanks for the reply Mark. I love my GS2 and iPhone4s but the screen on the GN just says buy me or im just stupid with money.
Whats the battery life like?
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The screens awesome, much better than the retina display IMO as its bigger with equivalent resolution and much better blacks because of the SAMOLED. Having to post on my sister-in-laws iPad as my nephews playing shadowrun on it and I can't get him off it.

Mark thank you and I took the plunge and picked one up.
Firstly amazing, the screen is mind blowing playing HD videos for a phone. Secondly ICS is miles ahead of Gingerbread. Can't speak highly enough of it experience wise so far.
Google nailed it with ICS.
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@home said:
Would you be kind enough to install -
https://market.android.com/details?...251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5taWtlcnNtaWNyb3MuZm0iXQ..
Or something similar & let us know if an FM Radio app works?
Ta
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The Radio doesnt work it just comes up with a message (after the app is run) saying:
Sorry! Compatible FM Chip not found...
Fm: BC Sh:1 Su:0 Bt:1 Ht:0 H2:0 Mo: BCU
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Mark.

recklesslife85 said:
Mark thank you and I took the plunge and picked one up.
Firstly amazing, the screen is mind blowing playing HD videos for a phone. Secondly ICS is miles ahead of Gingerbread. Can't speak highly enough of it experience wise so far.
Google nailed it with ICS.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
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Impulsiveness is the best way to go and just remember it can only get better once its been optimised and overclocked
Mark.

Please see if Spirit FM Radio app works!

PCL_87 said:
Please see if Spirit FM Radio app works!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19498339&postcount=10

mskip said:
The Radio doesnt work it just comes up with a message (after the app is run) saying:
Mark.
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Many thanks for trying that for me.
I'm starting to get disappointed with the Nexus & I haven't bagged myself one yet.
No FM Radio & No capabilities to use one
No SD Card
Google Search On Every Screen - I Hate It & Never Use It
Looks like there are volume problems
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herrlado said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19498339&postcount=10
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Darn it...
Does this mean the app doesn't support the phones FM chip or is it completely absent?

[Q] [Help Request] [Buy The One X Or Not?]

Im a note owner, Im pondering either to buy a new note or change to the HTC One X. I have tried to search on Youtube, but no review matched my will. ( Got some scratches on the screen, and that's why I'm willing to change )
The note has a real good battery life, lasts a Full day with Medium/Med-High usage ) - But it does have an Over-Heat issue, whatever game you play? It will start heating from Minute 2 !
From your experience HTC One X users, can you give me any advice? How's life with HTC One X ? The Note is a really nice device ofcourse with it's own disadvantages
Unremovable battery is not an issue at all to me, but just wondering what happens if something freezes out while flashing or while using? How can we go back to point 0? On samsung simply, unplug/plug the battery. My only concern.
P.S : Not starting a Brand Fight like on other threads I've seen lol

i love mine, and i truly believe that if you get a perfectly fine one then its one of the best handsets you could own, it does burn hot sometimes when playing the heavier games, but its nothing to worry about really
the phone itself is hard coded to shut down after holding the power button for about 10 seconds, and it will always do this no matter whats happening on the device
overall, i prefer it to the note, camera fantastic and the tegra 3 games are a blast, even if gamesloft haven't given it quite the support that is should have, but that apparently all coming soon

coffmad said:
i love mine, and i truly believe that if you get a perfectly fine one then its one of the best handsets you could own, it does burn hot sometimes when playing the heavier games, but its nothing to worry about really
the phone itself is hard coded to shut down after holding the power button for about 10 seconds, and it will always do this no matter whats happening on the device
overall, i prefer it to the note, camera fantastic and the tegra 3 games are a blast, even if gamesloft haven't given it quite the support that is should have, but that apparently all coming soon
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Thanks for your reply! And Uh finally some words that makes me feel better about the Unremovable Battery thingy - Hoping to hear some more opinions

i bought mine today and i'm fully satisfied! it's fantastic! sure, it's not perfect: i can't say nothing about battery yet but i prefear removable one, no s-off yet, no sd... but 32gb and cloud can last me, and it's f**king hot when i'm play games (but it's good for winter )!
i love design and form factor... i think it's one of the most beautiful smartphone ever. i hope nvidia will release source soon.

when i first got the device, its the BOMB! i love ONE X! about the heating issue, i had it before when everything is still STOCK, but right now, after installing latest ROM (i use CHARMELEON & franco r-9 kernel), the issue has been resolved... even if i play heavy games, like SHADOWGUN THD, the heat is within normal, also the battery life is much better!

i went from a note to the one x. i would prefer a smaller screen size say 4.5", but it fits better for me with 1 handed use. I miss the awesome battery life I had on my galaxy note as battery life isn't too good right now.

I want to buy HTC One X
Hi guys, I have a question or few questions.
I want to buy the HTC One X(International) one month before my contract expires because I want to play with it before I go to AT&T. so here are my questions.
1. Can I root my HTC One X without sim card and no carrier contract?
2. Can I also install or flash custom rom without sim card and no carroir contract?
The reason that I ask these questions, it is because I am a noob for rooting and flashing roms. I have never done these stuffs before, but I am currently researching a lot.
That is why I want to know the answers to these question before I buy it.
Thanks for the helps guys, I really appreciate your answers

androidpeace said:
Hi guys, I have a question or few questions.
I want to buy the HTC One X(International) one month before my contract expires because I want to play with it before I go to AT&T. so here are my questions.
1. Can I root my HTC One X without sim card and no carrier contract?
2. Can I also install or flash custom rom without sim card and no carroir contract?
The reason that I ask these questions, it is because I am a noob for rooting and flashing roms. I have never done these stuffs before, but I am currently researching a lot.
That is why I want to know the answers to these question before I buy it.
Thanks for the helps guys, I really appreciate your answers
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Its a smartphone, sure you can do all that without SIM

[Q] {{Q}}Should I buy HTC one x or not?

Hi there , i'm new member here , nice to meet all of the professional......
REMARK : My English is very bad.
Erix got a question keep suffering , should i buy htc one x ? Because i'm using Sony ericsson xperia arc for 1 year + , and this phone gave me alot of bad feeling and bad experiences... ,
Example 1 : Phone easily to get heat up when calling or playing games in about 1 mins .
Example 2 : Phone easily to get lag or hang when opening contact, dialer , facebook and many more apps...
How am i going to keep use it when it was like holding a hot chocolate bar and stick with my ear for listening ...
A phone that i want is whenever i touch the dial or contact logo , it will come out quickly and won't lag . The most important is not getting heat easily or over heat....
So , should i buy htc one x or not? because i'm worry after i bought it , it is also gv a the same feeling and experince like xperia arc , then i will feel more regret and wasted money...
pls help~~~

ErixTech said:
Hi there , i'm new member here , nice to meet all of the professional......
REMARK : My English is very bad.
Erix got a question keep suffering , should i buy htc one x ? Because i'm using Sony ericsson xperia arc for 1 year + , and this phone gave me alot of bad feeling and bad experiences... ,
Example 1 : Phone easily to get heat up when calling or playing games in about 1 mins .
Example 2 : Phone easily to get lag or hang when opening contact, dialer , facebook and many more apps...
How am i going to keep use it when it was like holding a hot chocolate bar and stick with my ear for listening ...
A phone that i want is whenever i touch the dial or contact logo , it will come out quickly and won't lag . The most important is not getting heat easily or over heat....
So , should i buy htc one x or not? because i'm worry after i bought it , it is also gv a the same feeling and experince like xperia arc , then i will feel more regret and wasted money...
pls help~~~
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no...dont buy it.

ErixTech said:
Hi there , i'm new member here , nice to meet all of the professional......
REMARK : My English is very bad.
Erix got a question keep suffering , should i buy htc one x ? Because i'm using Sony ericsson xperia arc for 1 year + , and this phone gave me alot of bad feeling and bad experiences... ,
Example 1 : Phone easily to get heat up when calling or playing games in about 1 mins .
Example 2 : Phone easily to get lag or hang when opening contact, dialer , facebook and many more apps...
How am i going to keep use it when it was like holding a hot chocolate bar and stick with my ear for listening ...
A phone that i want is whenever i touch the dial or contact logo , it will come out quickly and won't lag . The most important is not getting heat easily or over heat....
So , should i buy htc one x or not? because i'm worry after i bought it , it is also gv a the same feeling and experince like xperia arc , then i will feel more regret and wasted money...
pls help~~~
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Not suggest ,

nemer12 said:
no...dont buy it.
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Yeah if you don't like it heating up.
Buy nexus 4 or sgs3 instead...

Don't buy it if you don't like it hot
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I think you should get the Htc one x, s3 or nexus 4.
These are all good phones i think.
I own a htc one x and i love it, its does not lag at all and its quad core! fastest thing i have ever owned but sometimes it can over heat a little when playing on it for a long time (1hr) It does not heat up loads or very hot i don't think.
Overall i would get it if your like watching movies and games because its quad core and has a perfect size screen.
Or get the nexus 4 or s3
Hope this helps

First , Thanks for all of your reply
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Actually i seldom use phone for play games or watch Video , if got are just a few mins in a half and hours. ....
The function i used the phone on android phone are just calling , i don want the phone get heat up easily in at least half and hours, and open the contact book or dial without lag and hang.
At the beginning ,I decide to buy a iPhone 5 coz it gv us without any worrys of lag and hang plus stable and smooth. IPhone got everything good , except it is not customizable(sharing using Bluetooth, nfc , free apps ) ,unless we jailbreak it.
Last , if htc one x not easily to get heat up in a half-hour when calling , i would buy it. .....
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DO NOT buy it.
I thought a lot before going for the HOX and now I regret it. I didn't have the infamous wifi problem but I had a broken speaker about a month later. And now I"m having screen not truning on problem. I cannot answer calls or anything until it takes it merry time to turn on whenever it feels like. I had a Desire before and it had no problem. I took a leap of faith with this one. Not anymore.
There is no reason to go for a HOX when you have phones like N4. Do not get this.

Don't buy it. This is my 5th HTC device. And I regret it. It's a nice handset and I've had no problems, but I am annoyed at the way the firmware updates for JB are being managed/locked down, as I have a branded device.
I am very disappointed. This will be my last HTC device.

then what should i buy ? i really hate to keep using this **** xperia arc , everytime use it to calling , the feeling is like burning my ears ,somemore like get radiation. ....fcuk......
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I am using the HTC one x+ just recently released rooted unlocked boot. This is my second real smart phone sold my HTC indesire aka inspire. I am not having any issues and mega impressed with this htc one x+. It all up to the user so really your wasting time asking. Depends on what kinda user you are
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dear rorrer , actually at the beginning, i just want to have a smartphone that not gving me the over heat feels when listening and fast open dial log. ...thats all.....
I want a simple answer, is it the good product that i expected?
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Erm, i have the same question but for different uses...
i will be gaming alot, watching movies and loads of other multimedia stuff... heating of phone wont matter...
but ofcourse, il be running a AOSP ROM like CM or something...
what i need is something that will keep getting the latest versions of Android (Unofficially will do)...
since the One X shares its chipset with the nexus 7, i feel it wont have any issues running latest Android versions?
had considered the Nexus 4 but it seems to have way too many issues with its hardware... buzzing speakers, cracking glass, battery draining...
dont wanna buy something that defective and delicate...
what do you suggest? should i buy this device?

Samsung galaxy s3 is the perfect choice. My htc one x is usually getting hot after 15 minutes playing game or browsing. S 3 is the number 1 of selling smartphone nowdays
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Don't think these threads are allowed

Is the M8 still worth it ?

Hey,
I have been struggling for a few months trying to pick my next phone, I've been using an ancient GS2 for at least 3 years now...
I was gonna go with the 6P but the SD810 is worrying me... And the M9 has that thing as well...
The M8 looks like a good choice.. I just have a few questions :
1- How is the dev community ?
- I usually stick with phones for at least 2 years, and I always like running the latest version of Android...
2- are AOSP ROMs stable ?
Coming from an Exynos device, it had countless issues with AOSP roms,... Lot's of stuff didn't work properly on AOSP.. Is it the same case here or everything is stable enough...
3- Is there any known hardware defective that are known about the phone.. Just to be careful when purchasing
4- How is the battery ? SOT ?
And finally, do you recommend to buy it, or there's better choices out there ?
Cheers..

biascoblix said:
Hey,
I have been struggling for a few months trying to pick my next phone, I've been using an ancient GS2 for at least 3 years now...
I was gonna go with the 6P but the SD810 is worrying me... And the M9 has that thing as well...
The M8 looks like a good choice.. I just have a few questions :
1- How is the dev community ?
- I usually stick with phones for at least 2 years, and I always like running the latest version of Android...
2- are AOSP ROMs stable ?
Coming from an Exynos device, it had countless issues with AOSP roms,... Lot's of stuff didn't work properly on AOSP.. Is it the same case here or everything is stable enough...
3- Is there any known hardware defective that are known about the phone.. Just to be careful when purchasing
4- How is the battery ? SOT ?
And finally, do you recommend to buy it, or there's better choices out there ?
Cheers..
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1. Great dev community(much options), about official software updates, 2 yrs of htc's commitment is ending in March 2016.
2. Most are stable, some MM are stil WIP
3. No hardware issues(like it was on One m7 with camera)
4. Depends on kernel and rom(with doze, battery drain is like 1-3% per night) i get ussualy 5hrs of sot, with tweaks and low brighteness i can get ~7hrs of sot
If you can find some good deal, go for it, great build/sound and fast UI. Camera is meh, but with proper angle and close shots, it's good enough.

Imotep95 said:
1. Great dev community(much options), about official software updates, 2 yrs of htc's commitment is ending in March 2016.
2. Most are stable, some MM are stil WIP
3. No hardware issues(like it was on One m7 with camera)
4. Depends on kernel and rom(with doze, battery drain is like 1-3% per night) i get ussualy 5hrs of sot, with tweaks and low brighteness i can get ~7hrs of sot
If you can find some good deal, go for it, great build/sound and fast UI. Camera is meh, but with proper angle and close shots, it's good enough.
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I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
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Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
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and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?

Its still worth it and the device has a official gpe (Google play edition) rom.

biascoblix said:
I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
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Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
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and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?
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Oh, there are plenty units out there...USA carriers,DEV Edition, ASIA WWE, WWE international... try to get wwe(unlocked version), btw you can do S-OFF($25) and RUU to whatever you want.

Just a quick viewpoint from me. I hate my M8. For the first 6 months it was great, then I had the camera lens issue (which was easily rectified with metal Polish but shouldn't have been a problem in the first place). Then my vibrate motor packed in. Then it came back to life a couple of weeks later but it folded again and has been dead for the past 4 months. I get random freezes on various roms and the battery gets so hot I can't hold my phone sometimes. Maybe I got a lemon (my wife got an M8 the same time as me, also had the camera lens issue bit nothing else) but it's really hurt my confidence in HTC. I've had HTC handsets almost exclusively for the past 11 years, and given how weak I view the A9 (or X9) I will be abandoning HTC thanks to how poor the M8 has been for me.
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Imotep95 said:
Oh, there are plenty units out there...USA carriers,DEV Edition, ASIA WWE, WWE international... try to get wwe(unlocked version), btw you can do S-OFF($25) and RUU to whatever you want.
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Yea, the one am getting is probably the unlocked international...
I'm new to HTC phones here, what exactly is S-OFF and RUU ?! ?

biascoblix said:
Yea, the one am getting is probably the unlocked international...
I'm new to HTC phones here, what exactly is S-OFF and RUU ?! ?
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S-off is like 100% unlock, you can flash firmwares, sound mods(with adsp) etc, RUU: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656721
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dazultra2000 said:
Just a quick viewpoint from me. I hate my M8. For the first 6 months it was great, then I had the camera lens issue (which was easily rectified with metal Polish but shouldn't have been a problem in the first place). Then my vibrate motor packed in. Then it came back to life a couple of weeks later but it folded again and has been dead for the past 4 months. I get random freezes on various roms and the battery gets so hot I can't hold my phone sometimes. Maybe I got a lemon (my wife got an M8 the same time as me, also had the camera lens issue bit nothing else) but it's really hurt my confidence in HTC. I've had HTC handsets almost exclusively for the past 11 years, and given how weak I view the A9 (or X9) I will be abandoning HTC thanks to how poor the M8 has been for me.
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Hmm, Interesting.... Yea, HTC currently is in a really bad position, the A9 & X9 are certainly a joke... But I can't really find a good phone with an active dev community with the same price range...

Imotep95 said:
S-off is like 100% unlock, you can flash firmwares, sound mods(with adsp) etc, RUU: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656721
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How do I know if it's S-off or not ?
and if the one i got was "S-on", Is it "S-off"able ?

biascoblix said:
How do I know if it's S-off or not ?
and if the one i got was "S-on", Is it "S-off"able ?
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Sure, its s off-able
S-On(security on), S-OFF(seurity off)
Yes, if its new, its S-ON, only dev edition comes with S-Off.
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Imotep95 said:
Sure, its s off-able
S-On(security on), S-OFF(seurity off)
Yes, if its new, its S-ON, only dev edition comes with S-Off.
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Okay, Thanks very much for your help...
I'll give myself a few days of more research.. but I'm probably going to get it... can't really find another alternative for the same price with an active dev community ..
Thanks again,
Cheers..
and oh, MERRY CHRISTMAS...

biascoblix said:
Hmm, Interesting.... Yea, HTC currently is in a really bad position, the A9 & X9 are certainly a joke... But I can't really find a good phone with an active dev community with the same price range...
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Yeah that's the bit that sucks the most, after all its the original HTC built XDA that bought this site to light many years ago. That's why I'm leaning closest to the Nexus 6P at the moment as a possible next phone as it doesn't need too much hacking to be what I want it to be. But I'm not 100% happy with the 6P either, but I don't want to wait another year to see if HTC can pull something decent out of their hat. M8 seriously ruined it for me
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dazultra2000 said:
Yeah that's the bit that sucks the most, after all its the original HTC built XDA that bought this site to light many years ago. That's why I'm leaning closest to the Nexus 6P at the moment as a possible next phone as it doesn't need too much hacking to be what I want it to be. But I'm not 100% happy with the 6P either, but I don't want to wait another year to see if HTC can pull something decent out of their hat. M8 seriously ruined it for me
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I really wanted to get the 6P but here's why I didn't..
1- SD810.... Just NO !!
2- A lot... I meant really A lot of defective units.. especially with the screen.. A lot of units are coming with irregular colored screens...
3- Price... yea, surely it's currently priced at 500$... but i'm afraid to use forwarding service to ship it to my country here coz of the huge amount of defective units.. and local retailers here selling it for 650$.. NO THANKS... and I can see you're from the UK, you're getting ripped off.. it's roughly about 700$ for the 6P in the UK !!

biascoblix said:
I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
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Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
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and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?
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I switched from the HTC One M7 to the M8 - 2 months ago for the same price of 350$. Got it off Ebay. It was an imported T-mobile version from U.S unlocked, so there is no warranty. If you're getting it at the local store with warranty I'd suggest picking it.
Good stuff I've noticed:
The phones battery is a quite a difference from the M7. The battery is slightly larger and the processor is more efficient. 2 months later with Skydragons Sense Rom with Marshmallow, the battery life is still great.
The M7 gave 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours of On screen time (If I was not gaming much) , while this phone goes beyond 3.5 hours. It lasts over a day with moderate use and gaming.
The phone doesn't heat up crazy like the M7 did. Expect it to get warm, it's metal build.
The speakers are much louder than the M7. Along with this factor and the amazing battery life I was convinced that the phone was worth upgrading to.
The camera is decent and rather nice in low light conditions. However if camera is really important to you I'd suggest avoiding this phone.
HTC Sense is way better than stock android. The launcher itself is so handy. Music player is the best I've used, simple and effective.
The phone feels exotic in the hand, super premium.
Sound output without the equalizer(Boomsound) is hands down one of the best you will get.
Huge development community.
Has SD card support which the previous phone didn't have.
Cons:
Boomsound on earphones and headphones is really atrocious. The Beats Audio which was on the M7 was waaaayyy better! If you get this phone, just turn off boomsound on headphones.
The phone is curvy and hence becomes super slippery, just be careful handing the device, it's prone to slipping out of your hand. Worth mentioning this phone is heavy.
Dual Camera at the back is gimmicky.
Some of the OEM's software is poorly implemented and of late HTC has been messing some of them up. Example: Blinkfeed with ads and recommendations, HTC TV and Notes.
Has on screen buttons instead of the HTC M7's capacitve. And on screen buttons are rubbish.
The speaker grilles trap dirt easier than the previous model, you can however use a tooth brush or needle to clean them.
The power button is on top and a pain to reach. Doesn't help that the phone is taller than the M7 .
The top camera in the back can get damaged due to poor protection as compared to the main camera. You can still click photos, but can't use the dual camera effects. Also you will keep getting an error message "Dual camera is blocked..."
Defective Models: Yes there are models which ship with the dual camera damaged. If you get an opportunity to test out the phone first, check the camera. If you get the dual camera is blocked - just request if he can drop the price for you further. You will still be able to use the main camera.
This phone is not perfect and is HTC's Rough Diamond. With the processor, sound quality and dev support, I'd recommend it.

dar87 said:
I switched from the HTC One M7 to the M8 - 2 months ago for the same price of 350$. Got it off Ebay. It was an imported T-mobile version from U.S unlocked, so there is no warranty. If you're getting it at the local store with warranty I'd suggest picking it.
Good stuff I've noticed:
The phones battery is a quite a difference from the M7. The battery is slightly larger and the processor is more efficient. 2 months later with Skydragons Sense Rom with Marshmallow, the battery life is still great.
The M7 gave 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours of On screen time (If I was not gaming much) , while this phone goes beyond 3.5 hours. It lasts over a day with moderate use and gaming.
The phone doesn't heat up crazy like the M7 did. Expect it to get warm, it's metal build.
The speakers are much louder than the M7. Along with this factor and the amazing battery life I was convinced that the phone was worth upgrading to.
The camera is decent and rather nice in low light conditions. However if camera is really important to you I'd suggest avoiding this phone.
HTC Sense is way better than stock android. The launcher itself is so handy. Music player is the best I've used, simple and effective.
The phone feels exotic in the hand, super premium.
Sound output without the equalizer(Boomsound) is hands down one of the best you will get.
Huge development community.
Has SD card support which the previous phone didn't have.
Cons:
Boomsound on earphones and headphones is really atrocious. The Beats Audio which was on the M7 was waaaayyy better! If you get this phone, just turn off boomsound on headphones.
The phone is curvy and hence becomes super slippery, just be careful handing the device, it's prone to slipping out of your hand. Worth mentioning this phone is heavy.
Dual Camera at the back is gimmicky.
Some of the OEM's software is poorly implemented and of late HTC has been messing some of them up. Example: Blinkfeed with ads and recommendations, HTC TV and Notes.
Has on screen buttons instead of the HTC M7's capacitve. And on screen buttons are rubbish.
The speaker grilles trap dirt easier than the previous model, you can however use a tooth brush or needle to clean them.
The power button is on top and a pain to reach. Doesn't help that the phone is taller than the M7 .
The top camera in the back can get damaged due to poor protection as compared to the main camera. You can still click photos, but can't use the dual camera effects. Also you will keep getting an error message "Dual camera is blocked..."
Defective Models: Yes there are models which ship with the dual camera damaged. If you get an opportunity to test out the phone first, check the camera. If you get the dual camera is blocked - just request if he can drop the price for you further. You will still be able to use the main camera.
This phone is not perfect and is HTC's Rough Diamond. With the processor, sound quality and dev support, I'd recommend it.
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Thanks for that detailed comment...
I'm coming from the phone that was barely able to shot decent 720p videos
literally anything would be an upgrade for me... the M8 is great compared to its price...
and the dual camera is a joke, i know that.. I'll probably be running AOSP roms which I don't think utilize it anyway...

biascoblix said:
Thanks for that detailed comment...
I'm coming from the phone that was barely able to shot decent 720p videos
literally anything would be an upgrade for me... the M8 is great compared to its price...
and the dual camera is a joke, i know that.. I'll probably be running AOSP roms which I don't think utilize it anyway...
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You might want to try a GPE Rom like this instead of an AOSP one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706391

dar87 said:
You might want to try a GPE Rom like this instead of an AOSP one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706391
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That looks great... Can't wait to get my hands on the phone... I'm gonna be buying it asap..