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Dropped in water

Yes, i know, stupid move.
Got it out right away and dried it up with paper.
When i try to turn it on it gets past the T-mobile white screen to the green windows mobile one and then the screen shuts down but the keyboard is still light-up.
Does anyone know what i should do in this case? This happened 5 minutes ago and it's still drying up. Anyone have any tips?
What are the chances that it's bricked? Should i be looking for a new cell?

Take out the batter asap and leave it out for around 3 days. Next, put the phone in some sunlight or some rice to dry the water out. After that you can try putting the battery back in and hope it's back alive.

cool thanks. I guess it was a bad idea of me taking the battery in and out and turning it on and off to see if it's still working.
I got it under my lamp right now which emits a reasonable amount of heat.
I'll leave it here and hope for the best.

Ok well i had it dry up in a bowl of rice with the lamp over it.
Everything seems to be working fine... except,
it shows as if the cellphone is plugged in and charging when it's not.
Battery went from 89% to 100% with the cell just sitting on my table...
Anyone has any hypothesis on how that might have happened?

noooooop said:
Ok well i had it dry up in a bowl of rice with the lamp over it.
Everything seems to be working fine... except,
it shows as if the cellphone is plugged in and charging when it's not.
Battery went from 89% to 100% with the cell just sitting on my table...
Anyone has any hypothesis on how that might have happened?
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Well electricity and water are never a good mix, i droped my first pay and go "Nokia Ringo" down a toilet "not my toilet even worse" and dried it, it was under guarantee so just phoned up Nokia didn't tell them what i had done just stated it wasn't working, sent it away and got a replacement.

I have to say I think you should have been a little more patient. I know its hard but this has happened to me twice, once with a Magician and once with an iPaq. The first time I panicked and turned the device back on to see if it was working. It spluttered to life and then died - never to work again. The second time I removed the battery, left the case open, etc for two full days and when it came back on everything was fine.
I know its so hard to leave your device off when you are panicking. But if this only happened last night you should really consider giving it at least another 24 hours. Even though it may appear to be dry now there is obviously still some small problem with power discharge - and if that problem is due to even a tiny bit of moisture near the battery it could rapidly turn from a minor glitch into a full scale breakdown.
Actually the fact I am so damn clumsy probably explains why my first post to this forum concerned backing up my phone! LOL
I hope it all works out for you.
GS

I know i should i have been more patient but it's just so hard...
I got a replacement for now tho, so it'll stay in there for at least another day.
Thanks for the advice guys.

"Moister Damage" On The Tilt 2??

So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......

froggylover1345 said:
...... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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seems like sort of thing that could happen if moisture entered into your phone as that could cause electric shocks and considering the inner hardware and electrical components are very delicate even the slightest exposure to water vapors or moisture is a enough to damage them especially considering your scenario where you had no battery (and i am assuming you didn't have back cover either or you did?) but regardless as far as my understanding is this behavior seems in line with what you are thinking.

So no way to fix it.... I'm now phoneless. I'm so mad at myself right now....

I live in SWFL and unless you dropped the thing in a puddle I cant imagine the humidty down here doing that to your phone. Did you drop the thing in a puddle? The back cover is by no means air tight so I dont think NOT having a back cover did that too your phone.
Turn the phone on and plug it into your charger and see how long it stays on. There's a trick discussed here that talks about wrapping the phone up in paper towels and then putting it in a bowl of rice for 24 hours. That should suck any moisture you have in your phone out. Just do a search in the forum for "rice" or something.. I dont know.
Good Luck Though!!!

This is the thread you want to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669472

i wouldn't think humidity would cause that much damage.
have you installed any recent app(s) that you might suspect causing these issues?

I thought the SAME THING. That's why I thought nothing of it! I just did a hard reset on it the night before so no apps installed. I did go on Android but, I do that about 1-2 times a week. Only reason I think it's moisture is because of the "white smoke" I saw thinking it was condensation. It wasn't really taken care of for a few hours because I was in disney. When I got to the hotel I put it in paper towels. The touchscreen works, and I can open apps on the menu but not use them. Wont let input through. No hardkeys work either. I'm gonna try a hard reset.

I WAS WRONG! I just did a hard reset, and it fixed the problem! Had to do it the button sequence way but it worked! The last thing I did on it, the night before was go on Android. Everything functioned well their and had no problems. What I'm guessing is I got a bad boot or something that stopped some drivers from working. I figured this out by trying to download mymobiler on the phone so I could do a hard reset and it wouldn't let me open it because it wasn't signed with a trusted certificate. Whew.... this is A HUGE RELIEF.

ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys

XERO_Racer said:
ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys
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I wouldnt think it would damnage the phone. Unless you actually submerge the unit or dump water on it it should be able to withstand the humidity. It's not like its in the moisture for hours and hours just a few minutes while you shower. Keep your fan running while you shower and that should help even more; although the fan should be on while you shower anyway AND for at least 5 minutes after you shower (little known fact) to protect the drywall and structure of the bathroom.

Humid place
Where I live some times in summer we have 98% of ambient humidity!
So it´s almost impossible to have anything dry here

froggylover1345 said:
So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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Just let it do some thorough drying out. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed but..after some thorough drying and TLC, it just started wrking again like nothing ever happened. I let my father have the Tilt cuz i had already had a replacement one sent to me. Just told them i lost it. cuz u say water, they like warranty voided..lol Still wrks to this day, its his new toy till he get that new EVO 4g for sprint. he got the tilt to work with a prepaid sim card. im like dayumm..he showing something new..lol

demandarin said:
. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed
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No pun intended right?

[Q] HTC Desire won't start!

Hi! I'm new to this forum so I hope there will be some understanding for the urgency.
Here's the deal; I dropped my HTC Desire in the toilet, clumsy me. I managed to grab it within a few seconds and so I removed all parts and let them dry over a towel. Stupidly enough, I tried to reboot the phone after some time, not thinking that electricity and water does not mix too well. I dried the cell phone with a vacuum cleaner for about 5 minutes and placed it in a bowl of rice. Just recently, I tried to start the phone with the charger plugged in but it won't work this time either. The phone keeps vibrating and vibrating until I remove the battery - what should I do?
Any help is appreciated!

Difeddy said:
Hi! I'm new to this forum so I hope there will be some understanding for the urgency.
Here's the deal; I dropped my HTC Desire in the toilet, clumsy me. I managed to grab it within a few seconds and so I removed all parts and let them dry over a towel. Stupidly enough, I tried to reboot the phone after some time, not thinking that electricity and water does not mix too well. I dried the cell phone with a vacuum cleaner for about 5 minutes and placed it in a bowl of rice. Just recently, I tried to start the phone with the charger plugged in but it won't work this time either. The phone keeps vibrating and vibrating until I remove the battery - what should I do?
Any help is appreciated!
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the fact its vibrating must be a good sign, atleast it means you didnt fry the whole thing when u tried to switch it on wet, the best i can recomend is put it back in a air tight container filled with rice, make sure the desire is totaly submerged in the rice and leave it for 24 hrs+ , if it wont switch on after that, then its a repair job

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the fact its vibrating must be a good sign, atleast it means you didnt fry the whole thing when u tried to switch it on wet, the best i can recomend is put it back in a air tight container filled with rice, make sure the desire is totaly submerged in the rice and leave it for 24 hrs+ , if it wont switch on after that, then its a repair job
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Have to agree; at least it's giving some sort of sign! Problem is that it won't stop vibrating and the screen remains black - no lights, etc. I suppose I'll have to give it a try and see what follows. My parents wouldn't be too happy with me explaining the circumstances... Lesson learned.
Thanks for your help!

AndroHero said:
the fact its vibrating must be a good sign, atleast it means you didnt fry the whole thing when u tried to switch it on wet, the best i can recomend is put it back in a air tight container filled with rice, make sure the desire is totaly submerged in the rice and leave it for 24 hrs+ , if it wont switch on after that, then its a repair job
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and if it is a repair job, have fun
http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-tear-down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720717&highlight=teardown
I used both guides to fix my broken AMOLED.. good luck!
hope this helps! and hope your Desire isnt broken!

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and if it is a repair job, have fun
I used both guides to fix my broken AMOLED.. good luck!
hope this helps! and hope your Desire isnt broken!
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Thanks for the reply! Are you quite sure if it's worth the risk, though?
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F*ck. I placed the cell phone in a box of rice and let it stay for about 20 hours, but it won't start at all now after a few attempts. No vibration at all. I'm starting to think that I'm screwed.

YES!!!
It booted up now! The power button doesn't appear to work properly, but it will start!

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YES!!!
It booted up now! The power button doesn't appear to work properly, but it will start!
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well thats a start, give it a few more days in a bowl of rice and if that wont help (to make sure everything work!) hopefully it will! but yu know.. if you have no insurance and have no choice, get a compressed air spray and have fun

!PANDA said:
well thats a start, give it a few more days in a bowl of rice and if that wont help (to make sure everything work!) hopefully it will! but yu know.. if you have no insurance and have no choice, get a compressed air spray and have fun
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The power button isn't working now either. Will check if the warranty covers this, I'm just hoping that there will be no indications of water damage.

Difeddy said:
The power button isn't working now either. Will check if the warranty covers this, I'm just hoping that there will be no indications of water damage.
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There are usually little white stickers inside the phone which turn red if they get wet, so my guess is you've got little hope trying to get a warranty repair.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
There are usually little white stickers inside the phone which turn red if they get wet, so my guess is you've got little hope trying to get a warranty repair.
Regards,
Dave
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Well, there is a sticker near the battery slot on the phone and another one on the battery itself. Both of them are white, luckily enough. We'll see what the guy says, thanks for the help though!

Hello!
Got any luck with a service with power button?
I have the same issue. Phone fell into water.. after few days phone works fine, except power button.
HTC Service refuses to make a guarantee repairment (suprisingly - liquid damage).
I think, in my case power button is short-circuited: when inserting the battery, phone is turning on and starting up w/o any problems (normally, Desire doesn't do that, I've tested friend's phone).
Unfortunately, get the root and remap sleep button to optical trackball isn't an option for me...
Someone advised me to disassemble the phone, and try to clean the power button with an alcohol. But I didn't tried this yet...

AE777 said:
Hello!
Got any luck with a service with power button?
I have the same issue. Phone fell into water.. after few days phone works fine, except power button.
HTC Service refuses to make a guarantee repairment (suprisingly - liquid damage).
I think, in my case power button is short-circuited: when inserting the battery, phone is turning on and starting up w/o any problems (normally, Desire doesn't do that, I've tested friend's phone).
Unfortunately, get the root and remap sleep button to optical trackball isn't an option for me...
Someone advised me to disassemble the phone, and try to clean the power button with an alcohol. But I didn't tried this yet...
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I'm a bit late, I suppose.
We sent the phone for a repair job but it was "quickly" sent back to me. Good of them to say this a month later, when I was eagerly waiting for them to send it back, whole and functional. Anyhow, I got it back and fortunately; it worked. There were no issues, what-so-ever, with the goddamn power button.
But, ironically enough, I managed to trip into a lake yesterday. What goes around comes around. At least I wasn't browsing for some porn this time. Jokes aside, the power button doesn't seem to be working anymore. Sometimes it'll respond when I boot the phone up, but now it doesn't seem to do this anymore.

Disconnect motor
Disassemble the phone and disconnect contact on vibration motor? Or remove motor and reassemble phone. Worth a try to get a functioning phone minus vibration option. :fingers-crossed:

Hey can know how much the company charge for d repair ????

Condensation Hard Freeze, Reboot on Home Screen.

Hello
I just purchased a GSM Galaxy Nexus From Google last monday. Got it on wednesday the first thing i did was put a screen Protector on it before booting the phone up.(ArmorSuit MilitaryShield) The phone work great on Thursday no issues what so ever. Then i Friday i went to the gym. Kept the thing in my pocket and wiped my hands before touching anything on the phone. (Waiting for otterbox to arrive)
I as soon as i get out i notice Condensation in the front camera. I soon as i received a text my phone hung up and reboot itself. After loading again to the home screen it hung up again as soon as text pop up again. I after 8 tries i final was frustrated. Took the SIM card out and swipe to the right with my finger to try to see if i could unlock it to the home screen.
I was finally able to get into the phone and turn on airplane mode before it hung up again. After i did that i Sut down phone and put the SIM card back in. Repeated the the same steps. As i turn airplane mode off the phone hung up again! (Seems everyone in the mother had to text me at that moment) I was able to make two phone call's before it lock up, but i couldn't hear them and they couldn't hear me. Called 611 then i was able to hear at&t computer but sound like the speaker was dieing. Then the phone lock up and reboot itself.
So i go into the boot loader. The phone was functioning perfected in the boot loader. Play with it for about 10mins. No hangs up. I found that weird. So i reboot the phone was able to get myself into the Factory reset. After that i did a hard factory reset.
So i call Google and they sent me over to Samsung. Samsung wants to do a replacement. I don't mind doing that i just don't like the fact they need a CC number just in case they have to Charge if the phone was abuseded which it wasn't. Baby the hell out of it. They asking me if the phone came into any touch with liquid. The the only thing i could think of was the solution the screen Protector Company sent. I didn't spray the solution directly on the phone but the direction told me to spray couple of sprays on the side of the SP that was going on the screen. (2 Sprays).
The Samsung rep told me the systoms don't sound like water damage. So after getting off the phone (About 1 hr) i notice the condensation was disappearing from the lens. So i took a quick blow dryer to it for about 30 secs. Turn the phone back on and everything been rock solid (Expect for wifi cutting in and out for some reason) for about 2 days.
So tomorrow Samsung fiance department will be calling me for my CC info. My question do you think i should send it in ? Do you think they will find water damage? Was this water damage ? Does the GSM galaxy nexus have Water Sticker ? I'm not able to find one. (Every where i googled no one had a direct answer)
I'm not trying to rip Samsung off i just don't want this to happen down the road again. If it was water damage ill just deal with it i guess.
I wonder if i don't open the new phone tey send me and just use my old 3gs in till i hear back from them... will i be able to send the Replacement phone back if it was water damage ? Just pay the shipping costs? First time dealing with something like this
What do you think i should do ?
Thank you for any input.
Sorry for the wall of text.

Just Notice i posted this in the wrong section My bad ill ask for mod to move it.

Look at the water contact indicator under the battery and see if it is red. A wet apply screen protector should not have caused this, but be careful to not let water get in the speaker and crevices when applying. In the future if your phone does come in contact with water or condensation remove the battery and sim Immediately and place in dry rice for 24 hours, do not try to power it on. Many others are reporting wifi instability, check the threads for solutions.

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Look at the water contact indicator under the battery and see if it is red. A wet apply screen protector should not have caused this, but be careful to not let water get in the speaker and crevices when applying. In the future if your phone does come in contact with water or condensation remove the battery and sim Immediately and place in dry rice for 24 hours, do not try to power it on. Many others are reporting wifi instability, check the threads for solutions.
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Looks like your good to me, I don't see any red.

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Looks like your good to me, I don't see any red.
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Do you think Samsung will find anything ? Sorry for all the questions. The lens on the front camera was white. Is there stickers inside the phone where the CPU is
I heard there was like 3 water indicators in the phone.

That I couldn't tell you, I've never taken the phone apart so I would only be guessing. You might could find out by looking for a "tear down" of the phone, there should be several online if you do a Google search. Is the phone continuing to function well for you? Besides the wifi?

Yeah its been running great. Just got off the phone with Samsung. I think i just keep this phone. I don't want to pay for repair cost's. If the phone dies in month then i guess it was water damage. I hope there's no corrosion on PCB. I would love to take it apart but i don't want to void the warranty to check. Is there warranty Sticker in there ?
The wifi thing might be my fault. My laptop does that sometimes too. I'm just freaking out. I love the phone. I don't want it too die. Just ran a CPU stability test for about 15mins. No errors the battery was at 42c temp. Went ahead and sut the phone down. Going to wait 15 mins then turn it back on.

[Q] Water damaged/Bricked??

i dropped my phone last night during heavy rain and forgot about him for about 30-45 mins when i went back out and got it the battery was out. i turned him on and he booted up to the lock screen but then i couldnt unlock it so i turned it off and put it in rice for about 12 hours and i turned it on and it got stuck at the lock screen again. Then it wouldnt boot up past the kernel splash at all nor go into recovery. i got it in download mode and odined to stock but still no go. It seems to be going very very very slow because i just randomlly found it in recovery and the volume controls were very slow and the home button wouldnt do anything. can someone help me? any advice anything to try out? its like its water damaged and bricked.
Edit: i got it to boot but it is the slowest thing ive ever seen. any suggestions?

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i dropped my phone last night during heavy rain and forgot about him for about 30-45 mins when i went back out and got it the battery was out. i turned him on and he booted up to the lock screen but then i couldnt unlock it so i turned it off and put it in rice for about 12 hours and i turned it on and it got stuck at the lock screen again. Then it wouldnt boot up past the kernel splash at all nor go into recovery. i got it in download mode and odined to stock but still no go. It seems to be going very very very slow because i just randomlly found it in recovery and the volume controls were very slow and the home button wouldnt do anything. can someone help me? any advice anything to try out? its like its water damaged and bricked.
Edit: i got it to boot but it is the slowest thing ive ever seen. any suggestions?
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Sounds like you have a water logged defective unit on your hands. Aside from dismantling the thing and drying out the insides, you probably have a paper weight on your hands.
Sorry man.

nikon120 said:
Sounds like you have a water logged defective unit on your hands. Aside from dismantling the thing and drying out the insides, you probably have a paper weight on your hands.
Sorry man.
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thanks for the reply. i guess i need to find a new phone somewhere.

So I ordered a replacment and the guy emphasized on the "as long as its not water damaged" part so does anyone know if theres like a water damage indicator inside the phone that may have changed or show that some water may have gotten in the phone?

lilajrestnom said:
So I ordered a replacment and the guy emphasized on the "as long as its not water damaged" part so does anyone know if theres like a water damage indicator inside the phone that may have changed or show that some water may have gotten in the phone?
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Majority of phones have a water saturation indicator on in the inside. However, I couldn't tell you where that is located in our's. You could search a bit on the internet, I'm sure you could find a tear down video or something.

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Majority of phones have a water saturation indicator on in the inside. However, I couldn't tell you where that is located in our's. You could search a bit on the internet, I'm sure you could find a tear down video or something.
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I did a little search and apparently the only indicator is on the battery so I should have no problems. The phone does turn on it just takes about an hour to get passed the Samsung screen so hopefully they wont look too deep for any water problems.

Okay, so after letting my phone sit with no battery for like 5 hours i tried to turn it on and it worked 100%. It was back on stock since i odin'd stock FC09 on it. Then I flashed cwm and restored my backup and i ended up with the same touch screen problems. So now I'm back at the point where i just odin'd stock on my phone and it still won't boot passed the samsung screen. I'm going to take out the battery and let it sit. Can anyone explain why this is happening? Could this one time working event be just a random thing or is it from leaving the phone alone for the few hours I did? Any suggestions or thoughts?

lilajrestnom said:
Okay, so after letting my phone sit with no battery for like 5 hours i tried to turn it on and it worked 100%. It was back on stock since i odin'd stock FC09 on it. Then I flashed cwm and restored my backup and i ended up with the same touch screen problems. So now I'm back at the point where i just odin'd stock on my phone and it still won't boot passed the samsung screen. I'm going to take out the battery and let it sit. Can anyone explain why this is happening? Could this one time working event be just a random thing or is it from leaving the phone alone for the few hours I did? Any suggestions or thoughts?
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The touch screen problems sound like it's hardware related. As for it not booting passed the sammy screen idk.