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So I was using antutu bench and I saw this...

Who is this?!?
What's wrong but so right with this pic?
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ICS, interesting. Let's see how the rumor mill explains this.

Maybe it was from one of those Rev ROMS...
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The clock speed is also 1.9ghz

Ics and almost 2ghz clocks is crazy
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Somebody's not sharing ICS with us

Went and checked it out to make sure it wasn't some photoshop voodoo and it is there
The question is how easy is it to fake submitted data? If you can't then I'd call it a great sign for the near future but closed in a shroud of unanswered questions.
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Could just be an edited build prop.
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Killbynature said:
Could just be an edited build prop.
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Fair enough
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avarize said:
Went and checked it out to make sure it wasn't some photoshop voodoo and it is there
The question is how easy is it to fake submitted data? If you can't then I'd call it a great sign for the near future but closed in a shroud of unanswered questions.
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LoL. I knew somebody would think Photoshop made an appearance. I was seeing the effects of the updated v6 supercharger script and there it was.

ntellegence said:
LoL. I knew somebody would think Photoshop made an appearance. I was seeing the effects of the updated v6 supercharger script and there it was.
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Wasn't accusing but these days it has to be ruled out
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It's a building prop edit I just edited mines to see if it would show up.
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jasontx said:
Maybe it was from one of those Rev ROMS...
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this, Never a fan of that since it led some people to believe ICS was available in our phone.
Someone should modify the build prop to 4.5 and benchmark their phone and time
how long for it to reach the rumor mill.

Killbynature said:
It's a building prop edit I just edited mines to see if it would show up.
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it had to be a build prop edit because for ics to be oc at 1.9 and getting that kind of pathetic score would be 1 hell of a disappointment.. when i get over 7300 oc at 1.72 with faux..

foreverloco said:
it had to be a build prop edit because for ics to be oc at 1.9 and getting that kind of pathetic score would be 1 hell of a disappointment.. when i get over 7300 oc at 1.72 with faux..
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A lower score with ics would actually make sense. Assuming its is really ics. ICS is much more a system hog itself than previous os. The only reason the transformer prime scores high is because it's a pentacore device so the test stresses all the cores.
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probably the CM9 team trying out stuff?

AllGamer said:
probably the CM9 team trying out stuff?
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Hmm, I don't think anyone ever though of that.
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A lower score with ics would actually make sense. Assuming its is really ics. ICS is much more a system hog itself than previous os. The only reason the transformer prime scores high is because it's a pentacore device so the test stresses all the cores.
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Very true, the Exynos is able to keep even with benchmarks, only because it's just a much better CPU, thanks to the Cortex A9 tech. The S3, which snappy, will lose some performance on ICS, most likely not noticeable, but you will lose it on benchmarks.

Remember Rev and his ics build and how much crap people gave him because his build prop was 4.0.3? It's gotta be that.
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Longcat14 said:
Hmm, I don't think anyone ever though of that.
Very true, the Exynos is able to keep even with benchmarks, only because it's just a much better CPU, thanks to the Cortex A9 tech. The S3, which snappy, will lose some performance on ICS, most likely not noticeable, but you will lose it on benchmarks.
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wrong
ics brings performance improvements, the reason why gnexus scored badly is because its running 720p on a sgx540..

AznDud333 said:
wrong
ics brings performance improvements, the reason why gnexus scored badly is because its running 720p on a sgx540..
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ICS is also more of a system hog, which will drop the benchmarks, but will increase real world performance dramatically.

Quadrant

Can someone explain to me why this phone has the worst quadrant score out of all the other high end phones?
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Yours is under the average Nexus. Mine clocked in at 3300, but then again, Quadrant doesn't matter
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Also I ran the test on 1.2 1.4 1.6 and 1.8 and I can't get it over 3000
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wyattyoss said:
Quadrant doesn't matter end of story
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fixed.

No idea what you are talking about!

Because benchmarks are stupid?

If you want to give any credence to Quadrant then go ahead, but it's about as random as a mouse eating celery while driving down the freeway in a 2013 Mustang GT 500 sky blue with white racing stripes jamming the new Tiesto album in 7.1 surround sound digital speakers with a 2 channel 3000 watt amp powering three 10s and two 12s (yeah, 5 subs is random, deal with it) and part of his ear is missing because he got into a fight with a demonic blender and nearly lost.
And that's actually not even as random as the numbers quadrant gives.
Quadrant serves no useful purpose whatsoever.

They are not stupid, but you can't use it to compare to any other phone (even other Nexus) they work to compare before and after for you phone only. Like run it with STOCK clock and ROM and then flash and overclock to see any change, something like that. Same to check how fast does temp go high, and so on...

Rotary Heart said:
They are not stupid, but you can't use it to compare to any other phone (even other Nexus) they work to compare before and after for you phone only. Like run it with STOCK clock and ROM and then flash and overclock to see any change, something like that. Same to check how fast does temp go high, and so on...
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Getting a CPU temp has nothing to do with a benchmark though.

orangekid said:
Getting a CPU temp has nothing to do with a benchmark though.
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you sure? have you ever been looking CPU temp while running different benchmarks?

Can someone tell me why people still believe benchmarks matter vs real world usage?
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Zeinzu said:
Can someone tell me why people still believe benchmarks matter vs real world usage?
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Because people run them on PC's too.. which just about justifies how well it preforms under pressure. Which is nonsense on phones. I agree but people do it. I could care less what I score as long as the phone lasts long and isn't laggy. I'm good
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Zeinzu said:
Can someone tell me why people still believe benchmarks matter vs real world usage?
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Bragging rights.
Don't get me wrong. I love my phone. Much more than I did the photon but it would be nice to say "hey my phone is better than yours and I have the numbers to prove it"
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tsdeaton said:
it would be nice to say "hey my phone is better than yours and I have the numbers to prove it"
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Who gives a ****? Do you like your phone and enjoy how it performs? Ok, end of discussion, you shouldn't have to prove to anyone else how good your phone is.

Zeinzu said:
Can someone tell me why people still believe benchmarks matter vs real world usage?
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martonikaj said:
Who gives a ****? Do you like your phone and enjoy how it performs? Ok, end of discussion, you shouldn't have to prove to anyone else how good your phone is.
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why does it matter so much to you? because people like to have fun with their devices. no one believes that these benchmarks are the end all. but some do enjoy benchmarking their devices. if you dont like them , ignore them. id rather know why people like you would rather that people not benchmark their devices.. how does this affect you directly and personally? just ignore these threads and dont read or post in them. personally, i suspect that youre feeling inadequate with a slow device :silly:
its as easy as.. if you dont believe in Christianity, dont go to church. but dont stand in front of everyone yelling that theres no god. thats just rude.
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just to make something clear.. to the average person these benchmarks mean nothing. but to a kernel developer(for example) they show just how the changes they made affect the device. and one specific benchmark does not hold the answer. but using many different benchmarks is like a goldmine of information. plus, some people find it fun, thrilling, just to see how and what they can do to make their devices faster.

They don't mean anything to a kernel developer. Find me one kernel developed who uses quadrant numbers for anything
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orangekid said:
They don't mean anything to a kernel developer. Find me one kernel developed who uses quadrant numbers for anything
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ok, will do..

orangekid said:
They don't mean anything to a kernel developer. Find me one kernel developed who uses quadrant numbers for anything
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I'd be surprised if they didn't check for performance regressions in some way.

orangekid said:
They don't mean anything to a kernel developer. Find me one kernel developed who uses quadrant numbers for anything
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Quadrant scores used alongside other numbers do paint an overall picture and can be quite useful finding bottle necks and does tell you if a change to code had the desired effect.
You can catch when a change not relating to performance turns up to have an undesired side effect afterall.
Just don't depend on a single benchmark and use several and the data gained is quite useful.
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orangekid said:
They don't mean anything to a kernel developer. Find me one kernel developed who uses quadrant numbers for anything
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happy now?

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So, I'm thinking, I want better battery life and i don want my stuff to be slow. I accomplished half of. that no pprob. I'm gpintotest battery life tomorrow. But here's the settings and the funniest benchmark EVEREVER
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Nice lol
For battery life I run 816/216, conservative, -125mv on all. Gives smoothness with extra battery life. IMO.

Romman0 said:
Nice lol
For battery life I run 816/216, conservative, -125mv on all. Gives smoothness with extra battery life. IMO.
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For battery life I run my nexus 7.
OK besides that I ran no UV Lionheart and 816/216 auto brightness array that's tuned a little dim for my own build. WiFi timeout 15 minutes. I get an average from gsam of a little over 8 hours though that's optimistic.

I want a new tab for battery, nexus 7 actually OK?
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das_webos_transformer said:
I want a new tab for battery, nexus 7 actually OK?
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It beats the hell out of the a100 for sure. Kicked the a100 out the door, it wasn't good for much besides a door stop after the nexus 7 and the 10" thrive.

You gotta give the a100 props though. It was one of the first 7in tabs not to suck! Evolution took it a step further and the base design of this tab has reoccurred in a few places, RAZR Max, notice the corners, some other grabs have the camera there. This tab was, is and will continue to be awesome. Besides the crap battery and the random bricking which has essentially stopped, as far as I know.
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das_webos_transformer said:
You gotta give the a100 props though. It was one of the first 7in tabs not to suck! Evolution took it a step further and the base design of this tab has reoccurred in a few places, RAZR Max, notice the corners, some other grabs have the camera there. This tab was, is and will continue to be awesome. Besides the crap battery and the random bricking which has essentially stopped, as far as I know.
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Yes its a decent tab that is still quite usable, but having a nexus 7 makes it useless in thus household now and has been moved to a new home. It had its good and bad points but for me for every flaw the a100 has and even those that devs had to correct because Acer wouldn't, means I will never buy an Acer product again. Google devices for me now as I don't wish to continue being forced to create new ROMs for a device because the manufacturer decided to ditch it.
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Hahaha..... so, sooo many devices have been like that.
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My best battery...ever...I've never had these kind of stats till I played with lulzactive and killed wireless before sleep. 816/216
Performance wasn't too bad actually, but here is the benchmark.
And this is my performance tuned lulzactive...4-6 hours battery. lol

Yuck!
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das_webos_transformer said:
Yuck!
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What? Lol for my uses this is pretty good.
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justjackyl said:
What? Lol for my uses this is pretty good.
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Considering how fast the a100 got in jb those scores are still a very usable tablet. Maybe not the fastest out there, but faster then ICS was.
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pio_masaki said:
Considering how fast the a100 got in jb those scores are still a very usable tablet. Maybe not the fastest out there, but faster then ICS was.
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I believe its possible to go faster. But im trying to find that happy medium of what works with battery and useable performance for my needs.
Do i know i can go faster, ya, but my point is to not kill half the battery with one benchmark, lol
I wish i had a stock score for comparison,i supposed if i looked..lol
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I know it goes faster, mine did its just not usable in that level of tuning plus its a huge strain on the hardware to push that far, 1.7 GHz is a 70% push in speed and voltage increases are getting scary at that point. Benchmark increases become smaller in relation to speed increases as well, meaning we're exceeding its safety range. Same for GPU oc, pushing it much father doesn't yield much more for benchmarks either but adds more strain then is really needed. What good is a tablet running over 5k in quadrant if it can't run on battery more then a couple hours?
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Sick nasty benchmarks. I did a benchmark on my old phone, not a quadrant but a geekbench. It scored a 10... in comparison, my a100 scored 1200... the dual core along with the fact its a tegra and coupled with the gig of ram make for all around good experiences on job. Imo
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Low low Quadrant Scores, should I be worried?

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After Jb update I got over 6000 now I only get over 3000 and I've noticed a lag pulling down the status bar since, I've already done a factory reset still same outcome, should I be worried? Power saving is off btw stock not rooted
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horr1blek1tten said:
After Jb update I got over 6000 now I only get over 3000 and I've noticed a lag pulling down the status bar since, I've already done a factory reset still same outcome, should I be worried? Power saving is off btw stock not rooted
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Make sure power save is not on
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osmosizzz said:
Make sure power save is not on
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I put in my post power saving is not on read before you post.
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I wouldn't worry. You're probably just testing your phone after using it a lot
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I wouldn't worry. You're probably just testing your phone after using it a lot
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shouldn't make a huge difference of 3k, though...
looking at the scores, your 2D and 3D rendering scores are absolutely awful. yikes. your 2D score should be over 1k and your 3D score should be in the low/mid 2k range. quadrant is a subjective benchmarking app because it takes all of your scores and kind of creates an average, this is why it is not hugely reliable sometimes and also why scores are plummeted
looking at your other scores, however, they are extremely low as well. your mem score should be around 11k, while your CPU score should be around 10K, and IO should be a little faster than what you are showing as well.
i would say your system is being bogged down by another process while you are running the test.
quick question, what ROM are you running?
also, a way to tell if this is indeed a performance issue, and not just quadrant being quadrant... is to download a graphically intense game and play it.. if it skips and lags and jitters a whole lot (which i know was happening during your rendering tests based on the terrible 2D and 3D scores), then there is some issue there. if it runs fine, then simply put, don't worry about it.

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shouldn't make a huge difference of 3k, though...
looking at the scores, your 2D and 3D rendering scores are absolutely awful. yikes. your 2D score should be over 1k and your 3D score should be in the low/mid 2k range. quadrant is a subjective benchmarking app because it takes all of your scores and kind of creates an average, this is why it is not hugely reliable sometimes and also why scores are plummeted
looking at your other scores, however, they are extremely low as well. your mem score should be around 11k, while your CPU score should be around 10K, and IO should be a little faster than what you are showing as well.
i would say your system is being bogged down by another process while you are running the test.
quick question, what ROM are you running?
also, a way to tell if this is indeed a performance issue, and not just quadrant being quadrant... is to download a graphically intense game and play it.. if it skips and lags and jitters a whole lot (which i know was happening during your rendering tests based on the terrible 2D and 3D scores), then there is some issue there. if it runs fine, then simply put, don't worry about it.
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I'm running stock no root. I actually tried playing a game yesterday and it would lag a little. But this started happening when I let me phone go idle for so long.
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usage seems pretty normal.
are you using any cpu controlling apps?
also, just real quick, what ROM and kernel combo are you on bud?

Have you tried to re flash the stock rom? Other then that it has to be hardware.
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cobraboy85 said:
usage seems pretty normal.
are you using any cpu controlling apps?
also, just real quick, what ROM and kernel combo are you on bud?
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Everything Stock. And no CPU controlling apps I just upgraded from ICS everything was working fine .
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Have you tried to re flash the stock rom? Other then that it has to be hardware.
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I factory reset twice right after it updated to jb. If this continues, do I have to Odin the factory image?
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horr1blek1tten said:
I factory reset twice right after it updated to jb. If this continues, do I have to Odin the factory image?
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Is your phone hot when you test? If so thermal throttling may be in place.
But from what it seems it seems like some sort of throttling is in effect. I would recommend another ROM and if it's still horrible you have a bad chip and warranty may be your only option.
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Note II Benchmark scores

Im just curious to which roms are performing the best so I decided to start this thread. If you can post a screenshot of your benchmark score along with what rom you are running on your galaxy note 2 id just love to see how they compare. Im running jellybomb 10.0.1 with overclock to 1800 just wanna see if theres some tweaks I need to do or if my notes performing like it should lol thanks to the devs for all their hard work.
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I am on the stock rom no overclock.
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Your results lead me to believe something is not quite right on my phone lol my results dont look much higher than yours and I think they should be with the overclock and everything, maybe its because I have my phone full of music and big games like gta 3 and max payne that take up a lot of space... kinda new to the whole custom rom thing lol so im not sure
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Here's my scores . Got 7000
jelly bombed gnote 2

I'm just curious.. What's is it with benchmark scores? If your phone is running smooth without any lag and snappy shouldn't be any issues?
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MiguelHogue said:
I'm just curious.. What's us it with benchmark scores? If your phone is running smooth without any lag and snappy shouldn't be any issues?
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My phone is fast and snappy, I was just curious about the benchmarks because it gives numbers to compare the phones by. Im very happy with the way mine works but if someone else's is working a lil better and I can see that on a bar graph like with the benchmark it lets me see which roms run better but I love jellybomb so I probably won't switch anyway lol I guess the short answer is just to satisfy my curiosity and just for comparisons sake
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Omg_Its_Erie said:
My phone is fast and snappy, I was just curious about the benchmarks because it gives numbers to compare the phones by. Im very happy with the way mine works but if someone else's is working a lil better and I can see that on a bar graph like with the benchmark it lets me see which roms run better but I love jellybomb so I probably won't switch anyway lol I guess the short answer is just to satisfy my curiosity and just for comparisons sake
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Gotcha.. That's understandable.. I was hoping my question didn't see rude lol.. The was the last way I'd hope someone to take it... But I assume better benchmark scores will come about when the kernel for our phones can go past 1.8..which there's a issues with that due to the voltage past 1.8..It's more to it but I haven't followed the issue since 1.8 is good enough for me lol
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No I didnt think you were rude at all lol just glad to see people are actually reading my posts
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Note II Jellybombed
Admit what you can't deny and deny what you can't admit

Jellybomb 2, I've tried 4 different roms and they DHL have been pretty fast. I lik jellybomb the best.
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heres my scores
I know benchmarks don't mean much but here is my quadrant scores running Team VeNuM - STOCK L900VPALJC - DEODEXED. With Kernel Nov 17 Perseus oc to 1.8 with governor set to performance.
Just want to thank all the devs who helped make our note 2 even better.

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Multi Benchmarks
N7100 running AssasinROM V6.0, SaberKernel 25.0, CPU at 1.92GHz, GPU at 800MHz. Running just a bit warmer than usual while benchmarking.

I got this with the Perseus Kernel running on Whompasaurus Rom. I have my CPU overclocked to 1.8 GHz and my GPU to 720 MHz. Runs great, and since the CPU isn't always running full speed, the battery life is great.

This is what I'm getting on stock rooted MC2 with Saber.
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t4d73 said:
This is what I'm getting on stock rooted MC2 with Saber.
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Way frequencies are you running at (CPU and GPU) with the Saber kernel and how do they affect the battery life?

CorruptionDee said:
Way frequencies are you running at (CPU and GPU) with the Saber kernel and how do they affect the battery life?
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Well I've been rooted and overclocked since the day I got this device. Using perseus back then so I don't know how good battery life can really get. With Saber I'm overclocked to 1.92ghz but I am also hotpluging with Pegasusq so that I have all 4 cores running simultaneously together at max cpu. Gpu is maxed out too. I bought 3 extra batteries and a wall charger on amazon so juice is never an issue.
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Notice how low the percentage is at idle.
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t4d73 said:
Notice how low the percentage is at idle.
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Oh ok. That makes far more sense as to why your quadrant is so high. I'm running Perseus Kernel at 1.8Ghz, but it doesn't always run full throttle.

CorruptionDee said:
Oh ok. That makes far more sense as to why your quadrant is so high. I'm running Perseus Kernel at 1.8Ghz, but it doesn't always run full throttle.
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Yeah if you really wanted it to hotpluging is the way to go and Pegasusq is the best governor for that. Has the most options of them all. I love Perseus kernel and it really is great but I love the extra speed with Saber. It flys! And that's putting it lightly lol!
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