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So the battery life absolutely sucks on my One. If I start using it at 8am its dead by 5 pm. And that's just normal usage like surfing the web over WiFi, playing games (candy crush, dots, angry birds space,) maybe watching a few short videos over WiFi and the occasional text message. I have a battery saver app and I can see that it helps but I guess there's only so much it can do,Z so I want to get one of those cases that has an external battery built in. I have a few questions.
1. Does anyone here use one of these? Please give your input.
2. What's the best one? I've done a little research and found that the i-Blason and Mophie ones seem to be most popular. They're both a bit pricey.
3. How do they work? Does the phone just start directly using the external power after you switch it on, or does it just charge the internal battery?
4. Can these things have any kind of adverse effects on the internal battery from odd charging voltage or anything like that?
5. Do they actually extend your battery time as advertised? I'd be happy with getting two full days out of a single charge and some of these things are advertised as extending it by more that 1.5x. It seems like if the external battery is just charging the internal battery it would be a bit less efficient than if it were directly powering the phone. Does that make sense? It just seems like there couldn't possibly be a direct conversion of 2300 mAh from one battery to completely charge another 2300 mAh battery.
I hope that wasn't too confusing. Personally, I can't wait until lithium-sulfur batteries are in all our electronic devices (potentially 4x energy density.) Google it. Sounds promising.
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JGress said:
So the battery life absolutely sucks on my One. If I start using it at 8am its dead by 5 pm. And that's just normal usage like surfing the web over WiFi, playing games (candy crush, dots, angry birds space,) maybe watching a few short videos over WiFi and the occasional text message. I have a battery saver app and I can see that it helps but I guess there's only so much it can do,Z so I want to get one of those cases that has an external battery built in. I have a few questions.
1. Does anyone here use one of these? Please give your input.
2. What's the best one? I've done a little research and found that the i-Blason and Mophie ones seem to be most popular. They're both a bit pricey.
3. How do they work? Does the phone just start directly using the external power after you switch it on, or does it just charge the internal battery?
4. Can these things have any kind of adverse effects on the internal battery from odd charging voltage or anything like that?
5. Do they actually extend your battery time as advertised? I'd be happy with getting two full days out of a single charge and some of these things are advertised as extending it by more that 1.5x. It seems like if the external battery is just charging the internal battery it would be a bit less efficient than if it were directly powering the phone. Does that make sense? It just seems like there couldn't possibly be a direct conversion of 2300 mAh from one battery to completely charge another 2300 mAh battery.
I hope that wasn't too confusing. Personally, I can't wait until lithium-sulfur batteries are in all our electronic devices (potentially 4x energy density.) Google it. Sounds promising.
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1. I don't use these so I can't comment on this.
2. The iBlason and Mophie are the only ones available that I have ever seen. The Mophie being the higher quality (materials not necessarily battery life) of the two but also twice the price.
3. The phone will use the battery cases charge first then once that is drained use the phones internal battery. However if your phone battery isn't fully charged and you plug a charged case into it, it will charge the phone.
4. It's a good question and I'm not 100% sure. If you use it properly it shouldn't cause any major issues. Using it "properly" meaning your phone has full charge when it is paired with case so that the case isn't charging the phone. That being said, the damage is no different than someone constantly charging and discharging their phone in short bursts rather than using it until it's dead (or as close to possible) and then fully charging. The big thing to be aware of is that the damage caused is simply a reduced battery capacity and usually isn't big enough to notice during the life span of the phone (1 to 2 years).
5. Yes they do. Some of the claims may be a little higher than life experience, but nothing drastic. It litterally adds a second battery to your phone, so it IS going to extend the battery life quite noticeably.
One thing though, I have had my HTC One for a month or so now and have kept it stock, occassionally trying custom roms, but always going back. I have consistently been able to get over a full days use with WiFi always on, GPS always off, brightness always on auto, and I have exchange synced and set to push notifications. I am constantly checking email and texting for work as well as browsing the internet and Google Currents. I also have the power saver turned on. A full day use for me being from 8am to around 12am.
I think either something is wrong with your phone, you are playing too many games, or some setting or service is draining your battery. I would post your battery usage here for some to inspect. And it might be a good idea to uninstall the batter saver app, they usually don't make any huge dent on battery life that can't be done without the app, since most rely on a polling service that runs in the background and eat up battery life themselves. Just make sure your sync settings are reasonable (not every 5 minutes), turn off GPS and only turn it on when needed, don't turn on WiFi unless you need it, turn off 4G unless you need it (switch to CDMA only in mobile settings), enable eco mode (power saver that throttles CPU based on usage), and make sure brightness is set to auto or a medium to dim setting.
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Mostly right. I'll toss out though that cases have different current outputs-- the mophie cases will output at a high enough rate to cause a phone to register as being on AC. the i-Blason case charges at about a third of that rate, meaning that it'll trickle charge your phone/reduce power consumption rate, but it won't outright charge unless you're not using it.
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So the battery life absolutely sucks on my One. If I start using it at 8am its dead by 5 pm. And that's just normal usage like surfing the web over WiFi, playing games (candy crush, dots, angry birds space,) maybe watching a few short videos over WiFi and the occasional text message. I have a battery saver app and I can see that it helps but I guess there's only so much it can do,Z so I want to get one of those cases that has an external battery built in. I have a few questions.
1. Does anyone here use one of these? Please give your input.
2. What's the best one? I've done a little research and found that the i-Blason and Mophie ones seem to be most popular. They're both a bit pricey.
3. How do they work? Does the phone just start directly using the external power after you switch it on, or does it just charge the internal battery?
4. Can these things have any kind of adverse effects on the internal battery from odd charging voltage or anything like that?
5. Do they actually extend your battery time as advertised? I'd be happy with getting two full days out of a single charge and some of these things are advertised as extending it by more that 1.5x. It seems like if the external battery is just charging the internal battery it would be a bit less efficient than if it were directly powering the phone. Does that make sense? It just seems like there couldn't possibly be a direct conversion of 2300 mAh from one battery to completely charge another 2300 mAh battery.
I hope that wasn't too confusing. Personally, I can't wait until lithium-sulfur batteries are in all our electronic devices (potentially 4x energy density.) Google it. Sounds promising.
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1. I've used one for about 2 days. I returned it. It works well and the Mophie definitely feels of high quality and feels great in hand. However it makes the sleek device very big and bulky.
2. I would recommend the Mophie purchased at your local corporate carrier store, reason being is that usually your carrier will offer a 1 yr warranty on a premium case like this. However if you break or it shows ridiculous wear and tear they wont. I cannot comment on I-Blason's warranty. Although I think the Mophie is perhaps more expensive. Some carrier offer discounts based on employer's of the account owner. So that might help get the case cheaper.
3. See comment below
4. Usually since they're molded directly to fit your device, most manufacturer's will accommodate the OEM's requirements. But the Mophie charges as fast as it would if you had plugged it into an AC charger.
5. This question is a bit more confusing for me to answer. All I can say is that if they advertise a 100% charge then that means they're matching the mAh capacity of the device. (Ex. phone model has a 2000mAh battery internal and the case advertises 100%, then that means the external battery is also rated at 2000mAh.) So in reality if you're expecting a complete 100% charge while your device is still on, then no, you may get from 1% up to 70-90% depending on how much you're using it while its charging.
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3. The phone will use the battery cases charge first then once that is drained use the phones internal battery. However if your phone battery isn't fully charged and you plug a charged case into it, it will charge the phone.
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This is not entirely true. Because the Mophie has an on/off switch. So if the case is set to off, it'll use the internal battery first, then you need to switch the battery case to on to begin charging the internal battery. It is entirely possible to use the phone till it completely shuts down when it run out of juice and the Mophie have a full charge.
It uses the same charger as the phone itself so the case never has to come off, however even if the switch is set to off it'll charge both items at the same time.
adamjamess said:
1. I've used one for about 2 days. I returned it. It works well and the Mophie definitely feels of high quality and feels great in hand. However it makes the sleek device very big and bulky.
2. I would recommend the Mophie purchased at your local corporate carrier store, reason being is that usually your carrier will offer a 1 yr warranty on a premium case like this. However if you break or it shows ridiculous wear and tear they wont. I cannot comment on I-Blason's warranty. Although I think the Mophie is perhaps more expensive. Some carrier offer discounts based on employer's of the account owner. So that might help get the case cheaper.
3. See comment below
4. Usually since they're molded directly to fit your device, most manufacturer's will accommodate the OEM's requirements. But the Mophie charges as fast as it would if you had plugged it into an AC charger.
5. This question is a bit more confusing for me to answer. All I can say is that if they advertise a 100% charge then that means they're matching the mAh capacity of the device. (Ex. phone model has a 2000mAh battery internal and the case advertises 100%, then that means the external battery is also rated at 2000mAh.) So in reality if you're expecting a complete 100% charge while your device is still on, then no, you may get from 1% up to 70-90% depending on how much you're using it while its charging.
This is not entirely true. Because the Mophie has an on/off switch. So if the case is set to off, it'll use the internal battery first, then you need to switch the battery case to on to begin charging the internal battery. It is entirely possible to use the phone till it completely shuts down when it run out of juice and the Mophie have a full charge.
It uses the same charger as the phone itself so the case never has to come off, however even if the switch is set to off it'll charge both items at the same time.
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I was not aware they had an on off switch, that would change the way the phone handles the device and give you a bit of flexability in how you use it, which is good.
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This is not entirely true. Because the Mophie has an on/off switch. So if the case is set to off, it'll use the internal battery first, then you need to switch the battery case to on to begin charging the internal battery. It is entirely possible to use the phone till it completely shuts down when it run out of juice and the Mophie have a full charge.
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I wonder if it would use the case battery first if you turned it on when both are 100% charged. Everywhere I've read, people seem to use them to charge the phone after the battery gets low. It would be great if the phone would just draw power from the case until it dies and flip over to the phone battery. I feel like that would keep the phone battery more healthy by avoiding inconsistent charging. If you're constantly killing the phone battery and using the case to recharge to less than 100%, then killing it again... it just seems like that would be bad for the battery.
Thanks everyone for the input! Keep it coming!
JGress said:
I wonder if it would use the case battery first if you turned it on when both are 100% charged. Everywhere I've read, people seem to use them to charge the phone after the battery gets low. It would be great if the phone would just draw power from the case until it dies and flip over to the phone battery. I feel like that would keep the phone battery more healthy by avoiding inconsistent charging. If you're constantly killing the phone battery and using the case to recharge to less than 100%, then killing it again... it just seems like that would be bad for the battery.
Thanks everyone for the input! Keep it coming!
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Good question. My thoughts would be that the phone would only draw enough to keep topped off. So I guess if the switch is left to the on position the whole time you would get the desired effect of draining the external pack first. But I would guess that doing that would reduce the efficiency of the case somehow.
In the end whether your constantly killing and charging your battery no matter to 90% or 100% with the case or A.C. charger, doing it more often will kill your battery either way. Given lithium ion batteries are way more forgiving than the old cadmium based ones that built up a memory of sorts.
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To keep the battery healthy in a phone, make sure you charge to 100% each time. You don't need to fully drain battery, it's actually healthier to go from 50% to 100% than 1% to 100%.
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pewpewbangbang said:
To keep the battery healthy in a phone, make sure you charge to 100% each time. You don't need to fully drain battery, it's actually healthier to go from 50% to 100% than 1% to 100%.
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So if my phone only gets down to about 40% each night before I plug it in to charge all night I'm ok? In the back of my head I'm always wondering if I need to drain it all the way sometime.
Philmize said:
So if my phone only gets down to about 40% each night before I plug it in to charge all night I'm ok? In the back of my head I'm always wondering if I need to drain it all the way sometime.
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You are fine, it's better to not drain the battery all the time. It lasts longer if there's charge left. You just have to make sure your fully charging to 100% and not charging only to 70% or something like that. This is how lithium batteries work in all devices, laptops etc...
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And either way you wouldn't notice the loss in capacity until you at least 2-3 years out.
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So I've been thinking about this a lot over the past few days and I have something else i want to throw out there...
If you have your phone plugged in to a charger while at full charge, you can use it all you want and it will never go below %100. Does this mean that it's completely drawing power from the charger, or is it still drawing power from the battery, which is just constantly being topped off? Because I know I can completely remove the battery from my laptop and as long as it's plugged in to the charger, it will continue to function just fine.
If the phone is drawing 100% power from the charger, doesn't that mean that it would do the same for one of these battery extender cases?
Like I said before, I think that would be a lot more efficient that just using the case to recharge your phone's battery after it gets low. This way you sort of cut out the middle man.
BTW... I found that there was a weather app that I think was constantly trying to access my location even though I have location services turned off. I now get a good 10 hours of battery life with moderate usage. Still want a battery extender case. 2 full days would be awesome.
HTC battery life DOES suck compared what it can do because you are not going to buy a phone like this if you wont chat/text/call/email/play games alot. Mine lasts 10-15hours (usualy 2.5-3hours screen time and NEVER more than 3) and thats annoyng because its ok if im just ordinary home-work-home rezime but if i need to go out of the city for lets day 2-3 days - im screwed and allways must think about charging.
I have overlooked everything nothing wrong with the phone - the battery is just too small.
i keep wifi ,gps and bt off if i dont need them but my phone ofcourse syncs everything (thats the point of a smartphone - to be connected!) and i play often also.
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So I've been thinking about this a lot over the past few days and I have something else i want to throw out there...
If you have your phone plugged in to a charger while at full charge, you can use it all you want and it will never go below %100. Does this mean that it's completely drawing power from the charger, or is it still drawing power from the battery, which is just constantly being topped off? Because I know I can completely remove the battery from my laptop and as long as it's plugged in to the charger, it will continue to function just fine.
If the phone is drawing 100% power from the charger, doesn't that mean that it would do the same for one of these battery extender cases?
Like I said before, I think that would be a lot more efficient that just using the case to recharge your phone's battery after it gets low. This way you sort of cut out the middle man.
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Nope its being topped off, phones are all about maximizing space in the phone, it would require more wiring for the motherboard to be able to draw power directly from the micro usb port as well as the battery. For example, my Samsung phones can be plugged in but if I take the battery out the phone turns off.
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I got this one - all day w/o charging w very heavy usage. Traveling w/o signal - 2-3 days no charge. Makes the phone bigger and you can't see the gorgeousness of the phone, but it protects it all around and it lets those 4 cores and crazy display to do its job w/o dying on you fast.
This guy sells them for $20. Have seen them in other sites for $70-130. Same exact model.
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e1140...&exe=10013&ext=100025&sojTags=exe=exe,ext=ext
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HTC battery life DOES suck compared what it can do because you are not going to buy a phone like this if you wont chat/text/call/email/play games alot. Mine lasts 10-15hours (usualy 2.5-3hours screen time and NEVER more than 3) and thats annoyng because its ok if im just ordinary home-work-home rezime but if i need to go out of the city for lets day 2-3 days - im screwed and allways must think about charging.
I have overlooked everything nothing wrong with the phone - the battery is just too small.
i keep wifi ,gps and bt off if i dont need them but my phone ofcourse syncs everything (thats the point of a smartphone - to be connected!) and i play often also.
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You just don't know how to manage wakelocks. Do some reading. Mine lasts almost 2 days with 5 hours screen on time.
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1. I have the i-Blason black.
As a Case
Pros: Great volume controls, Black matches the black HTC One and the black earbud plug, kickstand, central USB plug.
Cons: Thick, Gets Warn when plugged in
3. There's a button that turns charging from the case on or off. Phone will be like it's externally charging.
4. The i-Blason is a lower current charging, so there's a warning that pops up. I think it's not harmful.
5. Extends, yes. But >1 day, no. Well, if you're not using the phone, yes, > 1day. What I do is I let it charge the phone when I'm not near a usb plug and it gets < 80%, then i let it trickle back to 100% in about an hour. It automatically stops charging the phone at 100%.
Learn how to manage your phone guys. Track down the offenders instead of buying these battery packs and other nonsense.
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Hello,
I bought a gently used N900T a few days ago. The device is awesome and works perfectly, except for one thing. Charging the phone with the Samsung charging cable+ac adapter takes longer than forever. It charges at a rate of approximately 8-9% per hour.
A few notes:
Device on, device off, it doesn't matter. It charges at the same slow rate.
The battery itself, once it charges, holds that charge very well.
The slow charging happened both when I was on the stock rom and on my current Slim Rom.
I have ordered a new charger and a new battery. If the slow charging persists with these new accessories, am I doomed? Is the slow charging a known issue for the Note 3? Besides the new equipment, does anyone have any advice on how to solve this?
Thanks so much!
JJ2525 said:
Hello,
I bought a gently used N900T a few days ago. The device is awesome and works perfectly, except for one thing. Charging the phone with the Samsung charging cable+ac adapter takes longer than forever. It charges at a rate of approximately 8-9% per hour.
A few notes:
Device on, device off, it doesn't matter. It charges at the same slow rate.
The battery itself, once it charges, holds that charge very well.
The slow charging happened both when I was on the stock rom and on my current Slim Rom.
I have ordered a new charger and a new battery. If the slow charging persists with these new accessories, am I doomed? Is the slow charging a known issue for the Note 3? Besides the new equipment, does anyone have any advice on how to solve this?
Thanks so much!
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Rooted? What kernel? Is fast charge supported?
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BACARDILIMON said:
Rooted? What kernel? Is fast charge supported?
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Rooted running Slim Rom v8 and LeanKernel 1.2. I'm unsure if a fast charge feature is supported.
Dude this phone charges pretty fast without any roms or mods. ..it charges fast out of the box. .. Are you using the charger that comes with...correct me if I'm wrong but I think the charger that Came with this is usb 3.0....not your regular usb charger. ..
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mlock420 said:
Dude this phone charges pretty fast without any roms or mods. ..it charges fast out of the box. .. Are you using the charger that comes with...correct me if I'm wrong but I think the charger that Came with this is usb 3.0....not your regular usb charger. ..
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I am using a genuine Samsung Note 3 charger. The replacement coming is another genuine Samsung Note 3 charger. I'm sincerely hoping the one I have now has a cable problem or something. I really, really like the phone but I'm wondering if anyone else has seen a similar story or knows of a possible solution in the case that the new charger+battery do not work.
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I am using a genuine Samsung Note 3 charger. The replacement coming is another genuine Samsung Note 3 charger. I'm sincerely hoping the one I have now has a cable problem or something. I really, really like the phone but I'm wondering if anyone else has seen a similar story or knows of a possible solution in the case that the new charger+battery do not work.
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Swap to any other kernel and test it out.
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Swap to any other kernel and test it out.
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As I noted, the slow charging happened on both stock rom+kernel as well as custom roms.
JJ2525 said:
As I noted, the slow charging happened on both stock rom+kernel as well as custom roms.
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So this has been doing it from day one. On your white wall charger how many amps does it say.
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It is a genuine Note 3 2 amp charger.
Lol damn 8% an hour? Sounds like mine kinda except it charges like 20% an hour it used to charge so slow. The ROM I'm running took some stabilising
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Lol damn 8% an hour? Sounds like mine kinda except it charges like 20% an hour it used to charge so slow. The ROM I'm running took some stabilising
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Well I have to be honest from dead it takes about 2.5hrs to get back to 100. On stock.using the wall charger with 2amps. When he gets his new charger he should be good or a good kernel swap. Either way it should come back to normal
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I got a new charger and it's still charging at the same slow pace. What could possibly be wrong with my phone? The battery holds a charge, the phone works near flawlessly. I'm dumbfounded.
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I got a new charger and it's still charging at the same slow pace. What could possibly be wrong with my phone? The battery holds a charge, the phone works near flawlessly. I'm dumbfounded.
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You gonna have to do testing or replace phone. Me I would change kernel just cause it takes 2 seconds. Let it ride a day if no change then a factory refresh. You have checked that no app is killing phone as fast as it charges right?
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Edit. I was just on his thread and a few guys having issues with either bad batter. UV/ oc .try a different ROM and kernel. Fresh install meaning Odin back to stock and start all over. Sorry good luck
As weird as this sounds, I tried the charger in a different outlet in my home and it works a lot better. The battery charges quite fast from any level to about 96%, then starts crawling again to 97, 98 and stops at 98. I opened battery calibration, which shows the battery at 96% and 4337mv, which is the same mv level as 100% normally if memory serves me correctly. So I'm thinking the battery is "full", but for some reason won't go to 100% without a fight. Perhaps if I clear my cache+dalvik cache? Any other suggestions?
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As weird as this sounds, I tried the charger in a different outlet in my home and it works a lot better. The battery charges quite fast from any level to about 96%, then starts crawling again to 97, 98 and stops at 98. I opened battery calibration, which shows the battery at 96% and 4337mv, which is the same mv level as 100% normally if memory serves me correctly. So I'm thinking the battery is "full", but for some reason won't go to 100% without a fight. Perhaps if I clear my cache+dalvik cache? Any other suggestions?
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ROM toolbox Pro has a script to reset battery stats.
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Can someone give me link to odin back to stock please
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What was wrong with mine it was the charger. The usb wasn't connected all the way in the AC therefore was only charging like it would through computer as soon as I fixed it with a blow of air and a gentle push it right away started charging AC phone charged in 2 hours
I could be wrong but I noticed my charging is slower when I stick my charger into a surge protector power bar as opposed to a standard wall outlet.
Mine was the charging cable I used a regular USB charger cable and it charge fast
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Here are some fast charging tips and tricks that actually work :
1- Turn on your airplane mode.
2- If you are waiting for any important calls or messages then ignore step one and simply turn off any unused feature like wifi and bluetooth.
3-Atleast once in a month charge your mobile from 20% to 100% this enchances battery life.
4- Atleast once in a week restart your mobile or switchoff the phone for 5 mins remove battery and reinstall and reboot.
5-The most effective is that buy a charger of a mobile like note 3 coz it charges faster than normal grand 2 charger(use at your own risk)
6- If you feel your mobile is getting hotter while charging turn off power saving mode if issue still remains turn off the phone.
Why use another charger? Using another charger than that specially designed for the phone may apply different voltage/current intensity to the battery, and thus affecting its efficiency...
You shouldn't be using another battery, every phone has its own battery charger, it's not a battery cell!!
I'm using a note 3 charger for my grand 2 for about 7 months and well it haven't affected my battery or phone and I bought it from a Samsung store and that person said it won't affect the battery but only charge it fast
"charge it fast" means going abnormal... Nothing's called charge fast and drain the same, if you charge your battery faster than it's intended to be, it'll cause trouble, most probably draining fast or the reactants of the battery wearing out fast, and 7 months are nothing lol!
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"charge it fast" means going abnormal... Nothing's called charge fast and drain the same, if you charge your battery faster than it's intended to be, it'll cause trouble, most probably draining fast or the reactants of the battery wearing out fast, and 7 months are nothing lol!
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haha what do you expect from a battery to run like 2 years or so haha well if you ask me i have'nt felt any abnormal drain in battery life
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haha what do you expect from a battery to run like 2 years or so
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More than the square of two years... Anyways if you're that sure of results, at least write "do this at your own will...!
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More than the square of two years... Anyways if you're that sure of results, at least write "do this at your own will...!
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haha sure
Ill try ur tips sir, seems helpful. Ill update this post if it worked.
Im using note 3 charger in almost a year too.. but i feel that charging with the same speed as original charger, and yes my phone still normal till now
Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
athais said:
Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
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If you don't need a fully charged phone in the morning I would recommend not to do so. Try to keep the phone between 30 and 80% and only charge it to full like 2 times a month. What I read that's the best thing for all devices.
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobile-phone/how-charge-phones-battery-3619623/
athais said:
Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
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With the OnePlus 3 you won't need to charge over night as it'll be charged to 62℅ for 30mins to be precise , I used to charge over night all my. Previous phone but with the OnePlus 3 I just charge it for 25mins or something it'll be charged to 90+% as the previous day's charge would still be about 30 to 40%..
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athais said:
Hello everyone im new here! i just bought a oneplus 3 , i have tried search everywere about , if i charge the phone wile i go sleep at night can be an issue or not. the dash charge put the heat in to the charger and not stress the phone but i want some advice . Also im new of the android world ( apple can kiss my pretty shiny ( . ) i wont buy an iphone never again! )
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I'm not a battery guru by any means but from my personal experience with cell phones and laptops, it makes very little difference. My old phone was a Galaxy S3 (albeit no quick charge or dash charge), but was charged overnight every night for 5 years. Still on the original battery and lasts a full day with my usage (email sync, facebook, instagram, web browsing, some gaming but not a lot). Off topic, laptop was basically the same deal; actually, was used exclusively plugged in the wall for 3+ years with the battery attached, and when I took it off the charger, still got me through the 3 hours of usage (doesn't seem like a lot but the same hours of usage as if it was brand new).
i dont even charge my phone overnight anymore - just in the car w/ the Dash Car Charger for 15 minutes a day twice a day on weekdays and on weekends with the wall charger ocassionally.
i probably lose 6%-10% overnight, but it's not been an issue, idle drain and SoT are great
in terms of ideal battery health for the long term, you'd probably want to keep it between 10%-90% but you can research this yourself.
2x4 said:
i dont even charge my phone overnight anymore - just in the car w/ the Dash Car Charger for 15 minutes a day twice a day on weekdays and on weekends with the wall charger ocassionally.
i probably lose 6%-10% overnight, but it's not been an issue, idle drain and SoT are great
in terms of ideal battery health for the long term, you'd probably want to keep it between 10%-90% but you can research this yourself.
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ty for your and everyone advice! , on OP store in italy we miss the dash car charge so i can just stick with the wall one. btw one last question, i have a powerbank also 10k mah ( the one on the oneplus store ) if i need recharge outside the phone with it should be ok like was with previous devices right?
athais said:
ty for your and everyone advice! , on OP store in italy we miss the dash car charge so i can just stick with the wall one. btw one last question, i have a powerbank also 10k mah ( the one on the oneplus store ) if i need recharge outside the phone with it should be ok like was with previous devices right?
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Sure but it doesn't charge as quick as the dash charger (wall/car).
Hw4ng3r said:
I'm not a battery guru by any means but from my personal experience with cell phones and laptops, it makes very little difference. My old phone was a Galaxy S3 (albeit no quick charge or dash charge), but was charged overnight every night for 5 years. Still on the original battery and lasts a full day with my usage (email sync, facebook, instagram, web browsing, some gaming but not a lot). Off topic, laptop was basically the same deal; actually, was used exclusively plugged in the wall for 3+ years with the battery attached, and when I took it off the charger, still got me through the 3 hours of usage (doesn't seem like a lot but the same hours of usage as if it was brand new).
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all my laptop i mean all as soon as i take off charger it will die in 10-30 mins thats because it was pluged into the wall brick for few years.
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jason4962 said:
all my laptop i mean all as soon as i take off charger it will die in 10-30 mins thats because it was pluged into the wall brick for few years.
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hahahah Same with me, Definitely cant leave a laptop in for months at a time
savvymatthew said:
hahahah Same with me, Definitely cant leave a laptop in for months at a time
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Guess they don't make them like they used to? I'm talking about a laptop that is now 8 years old.
Hw4ng3r said:
Guess they don't make them like they used to? I'm talking about a laptop that is now 8 years old.
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They dont make anything like they used to
savvymatthew said:
They dont make anything like they used to
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Actually for batteries – especially Lithium-Ion ones – this is a good thing.
With new batteries you can make a full cycle every day for 3 years and still have like 70% capacity at the end, as long as you don't go beneth 10% charge regularly.
With moderate usage and and keeping the battery in the 30 - 70% range, you can easily get 5+ years out of your battery.
This works pretty good for me with the OP3. It is just like 15 - 20 minutes of charging every day.
neominik said:
Actually for batteries – especially Lithium-Ion ones – this is a good thing.
With new batteries you can make a full cycle every day for 3 years and still have like 70% capacity at the end, as long as you don't go beneth 10% charge regularly.
With moderate usage and and keeping the battery in the 30 - 70% range, you can easily get 5+ years out of your battery.
This works pretty good for me with the OP3. It is just like 15 - 20 minutes of charging every day.
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I think OP3 was a good choice for me as well. With my usage patterns, I'm only down to about 50% remaining after 14 hours of use.
Sorry to steal the thread but if charging overnight, is it better for the battery to use the dash charger or a regular slower charger?
I would have thought the quick charge can't be particularly good for the battery?
I'm a complete noob on wireless charging and this is the first time I have bought a device that has it. I bought the plain flat wireless charger for use with this Note 7 to have by my computer desk and now I'm thinking of getting one for where I place my phone every night to charge. My question to anyone who has had extensive use with wireless charging, is it ok to ONLY use wireless charging? Even overnight? Not sure if it matters but I turn my phone off to charge every night.
You should have no problems only using the wireless charger. The only difference is that wirelessly charging your phone will be slower then using the fast charging cable that came with the phone.
Side note, I've started turning off fast charging when i charge overnight. Don't need it to charge quicker at that point and figure it may give the battery some extra life after a while. I usually avoid charging overnight so it doesn't sit at 100% for hours.
Back on topic, I think wireless creates more heat...heat bad...do the math. Plus taking it on/off charger constantly is def no good.
Only wireless charge my s7 edge and doing the same with my note 7.
If the battery get very low and i need to use the phone ill put it on the cable.
But no damage will happen. The phone has built in safety and the charger does also.
tgtoys said:
Side note, I've started turning off fast charging when i charge overnight. Don't need it to charge quicker at that point and figure it may give the battery some extra life after a while. I usually avoid charging overnight so it doesn't sit at 100% for hours.
Back on topic, I think wireless creates more heat...heat bad...do the math. Plus taking it on/off charger constantly is def no good.
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pointless, its all software controlled.
ducksauce88 said:
I'm a complete noob on wireless charging and this is the first time I have bought a device that has it. I bought the plain flat wireless charger for use with this Note 7 to have by my computer desk and now I'm thinking of getting one for where I place my phone every night to charge. My question to anyone who has had extensive use with wireless charging, is it ok to ONLY use wireless charging? Even overnight? Not sure if it matters but I turn my phone off to charge every night.
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Hi. I feel your frustration!
I did a little online research regarding battery life and charging and found a site that has real qualified experts with Ph.D's in this science.
Bottom line is all charging shortens battery life.
It appears to come down to a few rules.
Don't fully charge your battery. IE don't leave it on all night as we do.
Don't let your battery fully drain.
Don't use quick charging.
Don't use wireless charge.
Use the proprietary charger that comes with your mobile. (mine came with a quick charger though?).
Heat and built in obsolescence seem to be the problem. Its very complex and its best you Google this subject yourself as there are so many forum 'experts' one never knows what to believe.
Did you know that fast charging stops at 60% and then goes to trickle? If that's the case why cant we fast charge....its so confusing.
Research this yourself. Its best.
Ryland
NOT a battery expert!
Ryland Johnson said:
It appears to come down to a few rules.
Don't fully charge your battery. IE don't leave it on all night as we do.
Don't let your battery fully drain.
Don't use quick charging.
Don't use wireless charge.
Use the proprietary charger that comes with your mobile. (mine came with a quick charger though?).
Heat and built in obsolescence seem to be the problem. Its very complex and its best you Google this subject yourself as there are so many forum 'experts' one never knows what to believe.
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I am not certain we should worry so much about all this. At the end of the day we have to put a certain level of trust in the manufacturer of the phone, that they have put the effort in to making sure we don't damage or shorten the length of life to the device because of the technology they have introduced.
For the record, I 'slow-wireless' charge my devices overnight and top up on a fast charge cable whenever I need to. I never let it completely discharge and I don't recharge above 80% generally. No noticeable issues over the past 2yrs.
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Thanks for all the reply guys. I wasn't really worried about the it being overnight since I know that these manufacturers let it get to 100% and the let it drain, then charge again so it's never fully saying at 100%. I just didn't know the long term effect of wireless charging. Looks like all charging effects it. Haha. I'll turn off quick charge and see if that helps anything. I work form home so I'm almost always by my charger. I guess i just shouldn't be as worried because no matter what the battery will get worse over time. I bet it's not really hard to pull the back off this phone either to replace it.
i killed tupac said:
pointless, its all software controlled.
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Wanna elaborate on that one? Pretty sure everything I said was correct, but if not please do grace us more with something more than "pointless".
apprentice said:
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I am not certain we should worry so much about all this. At the end of the day we have to put a certain level of trust in the manufacturer of the phone, that they have put the effort in to making sure we don't damage or shorten the length of life to the device because of the technology they have introduced.
For the record, I 'slow-wireless' charge my devices overnight and top up on a fast charge cable whenever I need to. I never let it completely discharge and I don't recharge above 80% generally. No noticeable issues over the past 2yrs.
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Hi, Cant disagree with what you write however......lol. Many years ago a doctor would prescribe medication and said medication came with no manufacturers information just the dosage and time that our doctor prescribed.
These days drug manufacturers have to give highly detailed literature with all medications. Here is my point at last.
If you read the blurb given, for say a pain killer, it may list pain as one of the side effects. I once purchased an over the counter sea sickness remedy for my son and in the blurb it gave NAUSEA as a side effect! Certain antidepressants can cause suicide! Now if we parallel this to company's who 'just' manufacture mobile phones imagine what they know that they DON'T inform us about? Just food for thought. :highfive:
Oh another point...how many owners actually read that massive manufacturers owners manual? Should the owners manual be read no end of situations and misfortunes would and could be understood and avoided.
Ryland
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Wanna elaborate on that one? Pretty sure everything I said was correct, but if not please do grace us more with something more than "pointless".
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sorry. the software and power managment in Android will not allow the battery to destroy itself or even degrade itself. it does not matter anymore how you charge them, for how long, etc. The only thing that can harm it is cheap cables that fail and cross wires externally, which then route voltage into the port.
i killed tupac said:
sorry. the software and power managment in Android will not allow the battery to destroy itself or even degrade itself. it does not matter anymore how you charge them, for how long, etc. The only thing that can harm it is cheap cables that fail and cross wires externally, which then route voltage into the port.
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I know the software will help it last longer and not do immediate damage, but you can most definitely degrade it quicker.