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Now that o2 are producing lots of new non-htc XDA phones, are you going to open up new forum areas to talk about these phones, or is this going to remain an htc only site?
The reason I ask is that a lot of info applies whatever the device manufacturer and the more devices the site coversthe more people that will contribute.
Great point. I support this fully
The XDA stealth is certainly an XDA, yet it is not on XDA developers... Also there has not been much contribution to the atom probably because it was made by quanta
Guys the way I see it this is a HTC forum, there are a lot of phones around but if we stay on one brand then we can provide top info, tools for that brand. You Might allready have seen that there are a few things that cross devices (The BA's country code flashhing error can be over ridden by the Magicans flashing tool)
If we cover all phones then we water down our strong points.
As for the atom, it was a mistake and by the time it was noticed we allready had threads going on.
(Needless to say it might change in the future)
Hi
I have a Imate JasJar and Imate PocketPC. This is a excellect site for information on HTC phones, what is the possibility of extending this site with other phones like the ETen, O2 Flame etc...
It will be very useful to compare features etc... also can be used to lobby for improved features on HTC phones.
Any view on this out there?
Thanks
Norman
I think we've discussed this before, and frankly can't remember what the answer is. We seem to be slipping a few non HTCs in here and there, but although much of what we do is generic to the Windows Mobile Platform, a lot of it is specific to HTC devices, eg rom structure, hardware hacking etc.
I think that there are other great sites out there for those devices, so the only reason to open up xda devs would be if what we do here is of such a benefit to the wider community that it outweighs stepping on those guys' toes. (Eg there are great Mio websites that a number of us frequent in addition to here)
I don't mind either way, but know that my experience is mainly HTC/Windows Mobile.
V
thanks V, any chance of listing some of these sites, I would be intrested have a look at them. Many thanks.
Norman
MissIdentified Phone
The JasJar - by I-Mate - actually is an HTC phone. When buying from HTC it is called the 3G UMTS. To check this out, go to http://www.htc.com/product/03-products-11.htm#1 and see your phone in all its glory, by another name. And as our old buddy "Billy Shakes" used to say, "A rose by any other name . . . "
:-D
*edit: as many people suggested in the posts. a new single forum for other manufacturers with 1 single subforum per maker might be a better idea than whats suggested in this post**
the mods have explained several times why they are not willing to support other non-HTC devices for various reasons over here so im not gonna ask that. i will however ask that the admins to consider spinning off another site to do that.
there are some other sites that try to do that but they ALL fail miserably because they dont have the ridiculously high number of smart users registered to them. to solve this major problem, i propose that the users data base of xda-dev gets synchronized with the newly created site.
the new site may look something like
- windows mobile support and development forums
- htc built devices like palm,xperia...etc
- 1 subforum per device (more if its a very popular devices like xperia X2,omnia, toshiba tg10...etc)
I wasn't aware of the reasoning for no non-HTC device forums. You have a link?
Personally I think we should have subforums for the popular non-HTC devices like i780, Omnia, Epix, SG01, Asus devices, etc. But who am I?
there are many http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464635
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463252
and the reasoning is that "jack of all trades is a jackass" or something like that
THE GRIZZ said:
mods: please drop your whack-a-mole hammers and consider this
the mods have explained several times why they are not willing to support other non-HTC devices for various reasons over here so im not gonna ask that. i will however ask that the admins to consider spinning off another site to do that.
there are some other sites that try to do that but they ALL fail miserably because they dont have the ridiculously high number of smart users registered to them. to solve this major problem, i propose that the users data base of xda-dev gets synchronized with the newly created site. all that is needed is for the user to confirm the newly created account in the new site (in case some of the users explicitly dont want to register)
the new site may look something like this
- windows mobile support and development forums
- htc built devices like palm,xperia...etc
- 1 subforum per device (more if its a very popular devices like xperia X2,omnia, toshiba tg10...etc)
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First of all, title is misleading.
Second, it's never gonna happen (another site needs more resources, which this site is struggling with.
Third, I give you one day before this thread gets closed.
Cheers
THE GRIZZ said:
mods: please drop your whack-a-mole hammers and consider this
the mods have explained several times why they are not willing to support other non-HTC devices for various reasons over here so im not gonna ask that. i will however ask that the admins to consider spinning off another site to do that.
there are some other sites that try to do that but they ALL fail miserably because they dont have the ridiculously high number of smart users registered to them. to solve this major problem, i propose that the users data base of xda-dev gets synchronized with the newly created site. all that is needed is for the user to confirm the newly created account in the new site (in case some of the users explicitly dont want to register)
the new site may look something like this
- windows mobile support and development forums
- htc built devices like palm,xperia...etc
- 1 subforum per device (more if its a very popular devices like xperia X2,omnia, toshiba tg10...etc)
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And add ponderous, overlarge, and un navigatable
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just vote no and spare us your silly negativity. i was merely asking for them to consider it. if its a bad idea it will show from their replies and from the poll.
Third, I give you one day before this thread gets closed.
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stop suggesting them ideas. and they wont
Its so much easier to add a single "other devices" subforum (not even full section like what they are doing now for every single device device).
this way we all get the advantags of having non-htc devices without the extra work and headache that goes with creating full website page.
i like the " the users data base of xda-dev gets synchronized with the newly created site" part though
My opinion is to leave XDA as it is now
Do not add more non HTC forums!
It will just make it slower
Should be around the net good forums for other brands
When have you saw a site together between reebok and nike?
Every one has its own stores
Just my 3 cents
i had the same idea when i bought my omnia
http://winmodevelopers.co.cc
this site deals with all of the non htc devices
((although may i remind you its no way affiliated with this site it just served as inspiration))
it already has a few roms and a marketplace was opened in january, and yes were stuggling with resources but thats the way it is in the shadows lol
any non htc winmo device can be added, although smartphones will be added through poularity
also we are moving the entire site soon to a dedicted server soon courtisy of QUICKSITE and this will take time but feel free to add your nuggets of info to winmodevelopers.co.cc
also take note its a very fimiliar format to xda so u wont get lost
(disclaimers : winmodevs is not an affiliate of xda-developers.com, the onlt connection is certain members including me who frequent both sites)
I think that would be really cool! The TG01 needs to have support from the wonderful ppl @ xda!
ive already got the tg01 there and now ive just installed a chatrrom for geeks
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just vote no and spare us your silly negativity. i was merely asking for them to consider it. if its a bad idea it will show from their replies and from the poll.
I apologize for your dismissiveness. Only thing I would point out; is that in any enterprise, diminution of effort is really a bad thing. Take the examples of the car cos. just to name a couple. Orb3000 has it right, I've got a motorola device. Found forums that are exclusive to that. I believe that works out the best.
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jayjay8585 said:
ive already got the tg01 there and now ive just installed a chatrrom for geeks
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Nice! Where did you get the TG01 from and for how much?
And guys, let's not be dismissive or overly negative like that please, we should try to be friendly.
jayjay8585 said:
i had the same idea when i bought my omnia
http://winmodevelopers.co.cc
this site deals with all of the non htc devices
((although may i remind you its no way affiliated with this site it just served as inspiration))
it already has a few roms and a marketplace was opened in january, and yes were stuggling with resources but thats the way it is in the shadows lol
any non htc winmo device can be added, although smartphones will be added through poularity
also we are moving the entire site soon to a dedicted server soon courtisy of QUICKSITE and this will take time but feel free to add your nuggets of info to winmodevelopers.co.cc
also take note its a very fimiliar format to xda so u wont get lost
(disclaimers : winmodevs is not an affiliate of xda-developers.com, the onlt connection is certain members including me who frequent both sites)
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the site in your signature has more forum sections than actual posts or members. in its current status, it cant complement xda-devs in any way
orb3000 said:
When have you saw a site together between reebok and nike?
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Well as I understood HTC as a company has nothing with this forum?
And I'm sure reebok and nike wouldn't make site together because each of them want to sell it's sports equipment.
But, if some sport equipment lover make site about sport equipment I'm pretty sure there would be nike and reebok and many others.
I have HTC so I selfishly don't care if there are other devices on XDA-developers.
But if I buy some other non-HTC device some day I would really love to have support for it from great site like xda-developers
cheers
Can someone please explain to me how operating a forum with the amount of members and posts is not a profitable business?
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the site in your signature has more forum sections than actual posts or members. in its current status, it cant complement xda-devs in any way
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well firstly
Board Statistics
Our members have made a total of 272 posts
We have 341 registered members
and theres only bout 23 or 24 forums so that makes ur stateate very brash
secondly you think anything you start now will imediatly get 1.5 million members and chefs will flock and devs will batlle to host there crap on ur site, it doesnt work that way
ive worked really hard to get to the site in it urrent state and itll only get bigger
also you have to take into account everyone is eih ergreedy or impatient so if theres question asked on wimnmodevs then nobody sticks around too long because they wont answers now
so see as many little members there is that brilliant going when u rememerb the site only been opened for 6 months and xda has been going for years
but then again u sdont have to use it, thee are a few who are. but i mean if you really dont like it and if its that bad feel free to trawl around xda asking bout it when theres one there
btw this wasnt meant to sound *****y if it did i apologise im just saying if u want a new site at the drop of a hat that has this much support then it not happening im afraid site like this take time
Ok then. Whoever is willing to pay for the major bandwith and whatnot step right up and pay.
Usually I have never comment on those post ”we should get additional None HTC device listed here” but now I will give my 2 cents on this subject. THIS IS MY PERSONALY OPIONIEN I DON’T MEAN TO INSULT ANYONE!!!!:
I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY WE SHOULD NOT LIST NONE HTC DEVICES.
This forum has started to developt WinMo and during that time HTC were first manufucturer of such device. However this forum became so famous in last 8-10 years so that when you type anything WinMo related word in Google or any other search engine it leads you at least few times back to this forum. So with Such search engine power many old and new brilliant people come here to meet and share their knowledge. With Such knowledge base and information the searchengine crawlers are as I believe the most band wide consumer.
Now been this site so famous and this site been only on HTC devices, gives actually VERY BIG Marketing advantage to the “Company HTC” As I believe over the years HTC owns some of their popularity to this forum but DOESN’T HAS TO PAY SINGLE CENTS. I mean many other companies paying hard cash to make their names and their products popular in the search engines so that consumers can find them easily.
Furthermore we all here given so much feedback on our Dream devices or find so many mistakes on the current device models so that HTC itself can learn and align them self for future devices or even make correction on next produced patch for devices that are still in production. Again all these are for free of charge and without making expensive surveys. I assure you for HTC it is a kind of Gold mine here.
I personally believe competition amount of the manufacturer can bring only advantage to the consumer. This is for price and for quality!!!
Therefore As I believe continuing supporting only HTC devices here in XDA_DEV gives HTC big advantage on the mentioned COMPETITION and hurt as Consumer!!!
Be frank I don’t believe on those sister forums or what so ever (again I don’t wanted insult anyone’s idea it is just my opinion)
my simple mathematic is:
A forum based of people…people brings Knowledge/information…Knowledge/information brings search engines…. Search engines bring people.
From my experiences building a forum and been successful (popular) is very very Long and hard job
[FONT="]Conclusion of above I would say we should Support here also none HTC devices[/FONT]
redbandana said:
Can someone please explain to me how operating a forum with the amount of members and posts is not a profitable business?
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Look arround you will obviously see that this forums attention is not making money!!! But I do fully agree with you that there is alot of opertunity to turn this site to BIG CASH...
However according the websiteoutlook (http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.xda-developers.com) it stands not to bad there:
Net Worth $1.04 Million Daily Pageview 474342 Daily Ads Revenue $1425.48
Those who enjoy reading in depth reviews may be interested in our O2 HTC One X and O2 HTC One S review which has now been published on-line here.
Enjoy!
Tekguru said:
Those who enjoy reading in depth reviews may be interested in our O2 HTC One X and O2 HTC One S review which has now been published on-line here.
Enjoy!
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good review, what firmware version where your test handsets on? and did you receive a OTA during the test phase like many other reviewers did?
Glad you enjoyed the review.
Alas I can't advise on what the test firmware was now as the One X went back to hTC mid-review to remove the very early test ROM (logging build). For the One S the test build was wiped when I loaded a new O2 ROM on it on Wednesday which was the ship ROM
And of course the one thing I did not capture for the review was the OS builds when reviewing.
But no OTA updates possibly as the ship ROMs only came out from O2 at the last minute and that these are carrier variant ROMs not original builds from hTC.
Glad the review has proved useful guys. Just updated it with respect to:
Adding in the various camera modes which were accidentally cut from the original review prior to publishing
Additional One X photographs taken while in a wet and soggy weekend in Wales at various locations. Examples of various modes including Automatic, Panoramic, HDR and Close Up are shown
Example HD video taken in the rain of sheep in a field (best I could do with the weather we had)
Look forward to any further comments.
I am still deciding which to buy One S or One X. Which should I choose? I am quite impressed with both of them, but One S has smaller memory, it's screen is not as good as One X. BUT, the battery lasts better. How about in real life usage? Which is faster? And are there really no big difference in their screens quality? What do you think, which to choose?
BTW, I have seen some videos and saw, that some features are removed in One S. Like carousel effect when in apps and switching between those few categories. Are there any other sorftware differences?
To be honest you need to try and take a look at both and see which you prefer. There are a lot of differences apart from the ones you mention but how much they matter does depend on the individual.
If you read the review I actually do state that the carousel has been removed as had the transition from the far right looping round to the far right hand screen.
What the hell is an "HTC Butterfly" supposed to do? Who comes up with such childish unrecognizable names for flagship devices? And then what is an "M7"??
Why not simply a one X2? How is HTC ever going to build an iconic phone series this way if they keep changing the flagship brand every year.
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What the hell is an "HTC Butterfly" supposed to do? Who comes up with such childish unrecognizable names for flagship devices? And then what is an "M7"??
Why not simply a one X2? How is HTC ever going to build an iconic phone series this way if they keep changing the flagship brand every year.
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Good point but the Butterfly will not be called that in European markets.
HTC have lost they're way a bit they should look toward Samsung with the Galaxy/Note series,they tried it with the Desire range few years ago,why not again ?
I believe m7 is just the code name (like Endeavoru pr Pyramind), I am sure they have already decided on a hilarious name with misplaced capitals already.
I vaguely recall the Butterfly was going to be the DLX in the US and Deluxe here but could be wrong.
M7 is a code name, no one outside of HTC knows what it will be called.
I like the name Butterfly. Why the hell not? Or does it need to be more manly? Would "HTC Skullcrusher XXX" make you want to buy it more?
The new marketing team is doing a good job with the M7, I mean they are playing the apple/samsung game in delivering various ''spy pics'' and infos every 2 days on the internet just to hype things up!
Also the unveiling of one definite flagship on the 19th Feb and I hope they invited lot of TVs,is a huge step forward for HTC marketing.
HTC is making awesome devices but they always lacked alot of communication,that's why Peter Chou fired the old team
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HTC marketing department is just sad.
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Not as sad as this thread. If you knew anything or tried to find out anything before starting this thread you would of none what everyone else as told you on here.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
HTC makes really great phones, but their marketing is nowhere to be seen.
In my school a lot of people got Galaxy S3, and nobody except me got an One X.
Those two phones are competitors and substitutes so its sad that people haven't even heard of One X...
Its like you got an BMW car but don't know whats a Mercedes.
I think HTC doesn't do enough marketing or doesn't do it correctly which leads to situations like this where people don't know anything about HTC phones and therefore aren't buying them...
tomic888 said:
HTC makes really great phones, but their marketing is nowhere to be seen.
In my school a lot of people got Galaxy S3, and nobody except me got an One X.
Those two phones are competitors and substitutes so its sad that people haven't even heard of One X...
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Exactly my story.
Sent from my HTC One X
This is about to change
2 things to remember
1- During the One Series launch, the One X was exclusive to AT&T in the USA, being on the same network, Apple was unhappy with all the One X hype (the One series was the highlight of last year's MWC) and managed to block it from entering the US due to some ridiculous lawsuit, HTC was forced to modify the software of all the units while they were held in customs before they were let in but nevertheless much delayed, which diluted much of the One X attention. This will never happen again because HTC signed a 10 year agreement with Apple
2- For three years HTC will now be the official smartphones sponsor to the UEFA Championship
HTC also took advertising and marketing in-house. The new marketing head is supposed to be pretty good. Worked at some big ad/marketing agencies over the years.
It's good to hear that HTC has recently got in a new Marketing Director.
They must bring up Rihana at the M7 NYC fiesta
Instead of taking pics in a plane that only a few saw in the internet