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It's been a long time coming, and it looks like HTC's finally gearing up to drop another portrait QWERTY device -- a dominant smartphone form factor that HTC has historically given surprisingly little love. Following the Excalibur (T-Mobile types know this one better as the Dash) and the 3G-capable Cavalier, CNET's Deutschland outpost has learned a bit about "Maple," and what the device lacks in beauty, it looks to make up in pure, raw, unadulterated productivity. You can't rightfully anoint it until you get your hands on it, but from a distance, this thing looks like it has one of the more usable portrait keyboards ever created, a trackball, and a cool new feature HTC is called "Inner Circle," which seems to aggregate communication with people you care about depending on the time of day and day of week. HTC had really been keen on what it's calling "people-centric communication" at MWC, so Inner Circle would certainly fall right into that -- and if you can get over the frumpy exterior, this sucker looks like a solid WinMo-based choice for the suits out there. No word on a release just yet.
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saw this on engadget. i'm contemplating that or an iphone or g1 (g2?)
mjpuczko said:
saw this on engadget. i'm contemplating that or an iphone or g1 (g2?)
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This is old news , this has been covered already on multiple threads, from the htc 09 lineup http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470314&highlight=htc+2009+lineup /
to other models thought to be the new dash. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479699&highlight=dash
Yes indeed its old news now. I am the OP of the 09 lineup post . Just thought I would share that it was "official"!
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Yes indeed its old news now. I am the OP of the 09 lineup post . Just thought I would share that it was "official"!
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why not do it on the same thread? Since you were the OP of it , why not just edit the original thread?.
A video below of a well known tech blogger who gives his impressions and thoughts about the galaxy s3 and he compares it to the One X. In short words he states that the One X is hands down the better phone in build quality, overall design is better and for a flagship phone the One X feels more premium and in all aspects beats the S3.
So this for all the members out there who are debating to go for the S3 or One X check this video first and well you should have your answer.
Would like to say this is not to start another flame war thread this is merely to point out to new users that this thread is to give pointers to members who open threads and ask about if they should buy the One X or not. So rather than opening pointless threads and asking come here instead and watch the video and this should make your mind up. Feel free to comment and ask your questions here. Please do not open threads asking if you should buy it or not. Ask your questions here
Enjoy
I'm getting crazy about these comparison threads....
Just buy whatever you like. No phone will be unique so stop whining!
xmoo said:
I'm getting crazy about these comparison threads....
Just buy whatever you like. No phone will be unique so stop whining!
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dude i am not whining. i already have the one x. this is basically to show people the reason why they should get the phone and also this is a thread were people can ask all the questions they want and ask regarding why they should buy the One X. Simple as that..No moaning or comparing..
and another thing. would you prefer people opening pointless threads all over the forum asking if they should buy the phone or not? is it not better to have one thread were they can ask instead. this is the whole logic behind this thread and just give them the above video that clearly states why they should go for it and answers most frequent questions people have anyway. So no whining, no moaning and no comparing.
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dude i am not whining. i already have the one x. this is basically to show people the reason why they should get the phone and also this is a thread were people can ask all the questions they want and ask regarding why they should buy the One X. Simple as that..No moaning or comparing..
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I know, it was not directly pointed at you. But the people comparing phones...
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I know, it was not directly pointed at you. But the people comparing phones...
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i know...and i am getting sick and tired of people opening threads and asking if they should buy the phone or not..hence why i found this video and thought stick it in a thread and get everyone to watch it and it basically answers most common questions people have when asking if they should buy it or not
Forgive me if I seem a bit cynical, but a large number of your posts in the HOX forums are about the S3, so you can't blame people for thinking you have a hidden agenda.
It's almost like you're trying some sort of bizarre brainwashing technique - mention the S3 as many times as possible while at the same time denying any affiliation to it and people will start to think it's better in some way.
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Forgive me if I seem a bit cynical, but a large number of your posts in the HOX forums are about the S3, so you can't blame people for thinking you have a hidden agenda.
It's almost like you're trying some sort of bizarre brainwashing technique - mention the S3 as many times as possible while at the same time denying any affiliation to it and people will start to think it's better in some way.
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no you have every right to be cynical. and yeah i was leaning towards going for the s3. but like always when actually sitting down and thinking about it and reading alot this time around and reading posts by Hamdir and reading his threads about the One X there is no doubt that i have one of the best phones in the world and i should stop being a cry baby.
my anger and my moaning was due to all the issues i had with the One X so far. but after being told that they are rebuilding my phone from scratch in repair center and sticking brand new parts and reading posts in the comparison threads and the video above in the end there is only one winner and that is the One X..and i thought i share this video and to others who was in the same position as me can see why the One X is better..Hope this clears it up a bit more...and i still stand by saying that this as well can help people who wondering about the one x that here is the best place to be to find out why they should go for it
The guy in the video doesn’t even have a S3 on hand to review, all he did was summarise what he read on the web.
Personally had the S3 came out around the same time as One X, I’d have gone for the S3. But after playing around with the S3 in the shop, I don’t see any reason to sell my One X (running smoothly on custom rom) for the it.
However, the S3 screen is just as good as the One X IMO, have advantages of unlocked bootloader, likely longer screen usage time and expendable memory/battery.
I think Samsung made the wrong decision to make their flagship phone with 4.8” screen. When I was in the phone shop, a lot of people was interested in the S3 but was not sure about the large size. Samsung don’t have a similar performance phone with smaller size like the One S.
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no you have every right to be cynical. and yeah i was leaning towards going for the s3. but like always when actually sitting down and thinking about it and reading alot this time around and reading posts by Hamdir and reading his threads about the One X there is no doubt that i have one of the best phones in the world and i should stop being a cry baby.
my anger and my moaning was due to all the issues i had with the One X so far. but after being told that they are rebuilding my phone from scratch in repair center and sticking brand new parts and reading posts in the comparison threads and the video above in the end there is only one winner and that is the One X..and i thought i share this video and to others who was in the same position as me can see why the One X is better..Hope this clears it up a bit more...and i still stand by saying that this as well can help people who wondering about the one x that here is the best place to be to find out why they should go for it
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I also have problems with the HOX and a the moment its on repair the second time (i also got a new one with baaad screen ripple effect). The S3 is a nice phone but its not great like the HOX. Im really annoyed about the quality management of HTC and shame on them they released a phone with such f***ing issues like screen flex/ripple or screen loose.
In the end i decided to wait until i get a good one without any issues, because i freaking love the HOX, especially the screen and the unibody which feel pretty noble. I dont care about getting additional free space like micro SD(and come on 32 GB is more than enough) neither the possibility of changing the battery. This phone is sure one of the best phones the smartphone market will have for quite a period of time.
My advice to potential buyers is they should try it in a store and decide if they like it or not.
So thats all for now.
@goku have fun with your one x if you get it back ;-D.
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I also have problems with the HOX and a the moment its on repair the second time (i also got a new one with baaad screen ripple effect). The S3 is a nice phone but its not great like the HOX. Im really annoyed about the quality management of HTC and shame on them they released a phone with such f***ing issues like screen flex/ripple or screen loose.
In the end i decided to wait until i get a good one without any issues, because i freaking love the HOX, especially the screen and the unibody which feel pretty noble. I dont care about getting additional free space like micro SD(and come on 32 GB is more than enough) neither the possibility of changing the battery. This phone is sure one of the best phones the smartphone market will have for quite a period of time.
My advice to potential buyers is they should try it in a store and decide if they like it or not.
So thats all for now.
@goku have fun with your one x if you get it back ;-D.
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Thank you. Well it has been two weeks now without it. And yes looking forward having it bk. Advice to potential owners is not to get sucked by the hype but instead to go for user experience which the one x delivers.
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Now a days people just care about Benchmark score rather than the overall quality of the phone. My advice go through all aspects before you buy it. There are lot more than just benchmark scores.
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Now a days people just care about Benchmark score rather than the overall quality of the phone. My advice go through all aspects before you buy it. There are lot more than just benchmark scores.
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exactly. this is why my advice is rather than thinking about performance go for the all round media experience and user experience out of the box instead of support from third party software..this is were the One X provides it.
Like i keep on saying. I will not lie..I was seriously rethinking of selling my one x and going back to sammy. but after reading user experiences with the handset and actually playing with my friends one for a day i am glad to stick with my one x. plus the video in OP sums up the reason why i suggest to users who open up threads asking why they should buy this to have a look. The video says it all.
This video was uploaded I think a couple of days after Samsung's announcement. The person doesn't have the phone and gives his opinion. That's understandable. However people that actually have had the S3 are saying that it's a better device than the one x. Why listen to this guy who gives his subjective opinions?
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This video was uploaded I think a couple of days after Samsung's announcement. The person doesn't have the phone and gives his opinion. That's understandable. However people that actually have had the S3 are saying that it's a better device than the one x. Why listen to this guy who gives his subjective opinions?
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barondebxl said:
This video was uploaded I think a couple of days after Samsung's announcement. The person doesn't have the phone and gives his opinion. That's understandable. However people that actually have had the S3 are saying that it's a better device than the one x. Why listen to this guy who gives his subjective opinions?
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hey baron mate. true the blogger did not have the phone and commented from watching the many videos out there already. i really do listen to what he has to say as he has been reviewing many phones for the last few years and he is a vivid android user and i respect his opinions as due to his reviews i made decisions to buy a handset.
Like i said many times in this thread. The reason why i posted this video is for the many members who open pointless "why i should buy the One X" thread or "what are the advantages" threads to come here instead and watch the video and see why they should buy this phone. It is not to compare which one is better it is for people to see what qualities the phone has over others and go for it..
So One X forum, i give a One X video that a tech blogger gives his opinions about it over another flagship and answers the many questions that members have about the phone. That way they can see the video and make up there own minds.
and please let us not start this into a S3 is better and that kinda stuff as this is not what this thread was meant for. this is for as a guide to other new members who are interested in buying the phone and the video gives the points on why users should do over the s3 and other phones in general. so please let us keep it to that
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hey baron mate. true the blogger did not have the phone and commented from watching the many videos out there already. i really do listen to what he has to say as he has been reviewing many phones for the last few years and he is a vivid android user and i respect his opinions as due to his reviews i made decisions to buy a handset.
Like i said many times in this thread. The reason why i posted this video is for the many members who open pointless "why i should buy the One X" thread or "what are the advantages" threads to come here instead and watch the video and see why they should buy this phone. It is not to compare which one is better it is for people to see what qualities the phone has over others and go for it..
So One X forum, i give a One X video that a tech blogger gives his opinions about it over another flagship and answers the many questions that members have about the phone. That way they can see the video and make up there own minds.
and please let us not start this into a S3 is better and that kinda stuff as this is not what this thread was meant for. this is for as a guide to other new members who are interested in buying the phone and the video gives the points on why users should do over the s3 and other phones in general. so please let us keep it to that
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Don't get me wrong I respect your opinion. But let's be real here, it is an attempt to say that the one x is better. This is you from your op:
"In short words he states that the One X is hands down the better phone in build quality, overall design is better and for a flagship phone the One X feels more premium and in all aspects beats the S3."
Now you tell me that it isn't to compare it to the S3? I mean I know this is a one x forum and most will agree with you, but let's say what it is. I've watched blackprince310 forever in fact, I'm one of his subscribers. But I can give you easily 5 links that show people comparing the S3 and the one x and they're saying it's better, and they actually have both phones in hands! I'm not trying to make it look like Im hating on the one x, my one x has shipped from handtec YESTERDAY and just cleared customs in the US. I've spent a little more than 600$ on it so there's no reason for me to be a hater. If you want to help people make a one x purchase, you should point out the things where it excels at, not providing a vid of a guy GIVING HiS OPINION ON THE S3 release. It makes no sense. Sorry bro.
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Lol, it's inevitable. The thread itself was a mistake cause it's not helping people wanting to purchase the phone, just trying to prove that the S3 is a disappointment and that the one x is better. That's not how you try to get people to buy a new device. Ok I'm done
I've looked the video and its not "all" realistic because hi has no S III but it's his opinion, and I must say that I agree with him.
Hi praised the hardware, which is good.
What really bothered me was the comments that the people wrote.
It's disgusting.
It looks like now a days almost nobody buys a phone to suits his needs or what he prefers but just to show of or out or Fanboyism !!!!
As soon as one make a bad comment about the phone and is not other ones "brand" or "choice" than he's: "retarded", "f...", ............... !!!!!
For the new phone buyers.
Go to the shop and compare the phones there. Make a decision. If you cant decide doe to the technical side come and ask. Bare in mind that the answers that you get can be different. If you choose S III and you ask in this forum you'll be disappointed of your choice . The other way around too ( One X on the S III forum). As for how it feel, design and all the rest, decide your self. It's our phone.
I myself, don't have One X or Galaxy S III but I've played with both and they are not my choice
I have One S
Sorry my bad English.
Goku can I just ask what specific problems you had with your HOX? I seem to have a few but if I send it back to HTC I'm worried they'll try and blah me off. I have over heating battery, all the time, even worse when on charge, dead pixel, yellow tinge when battery is hot, lol which is all the time, battery life is shocking, I'm on the latest update and tbh its worse than when I got it, and I get the rainbow effect when I touch the sides of the screen (i don't know of this is what people are calling rippling?) Reckon they'll swap it for a brand new one?
Samsung did make a mistake by not releasing a smaller screened performance phone alongside the S3 however the S3 is on another level to the HOX.
That is all
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Read the rules for general sticky regarding comparison threads....
EDIT: to clarify here, I'm after people's opinions who have moved from other devices such as the iPhone 4/S, Galaxy S3 etc.
I bought the One X with high hopes and, much to my dismay, the camera really doesn't exhibit the sort of quality that HTC suggested it might. Whilst the wider aperture IS noticeable, the overal lens quality is I think very average. I certainly noticed the difference between shots taken on my S3 and the One X. The most irksome thing though is that the One X compresses images so badly, yet allows no option to change it.
I still think the lens quality of HTC cameras is below par. It might be my imagination but I still see a dull, smeary quality to images taken on the One X. It's a massive step up from the Sensation, sure, but is anyone else a bit let down by the image quality on their device?
Just as an example, I took a shot of the same view in my messy, fairly dully-lit room on my One X and my old iPhone 4. It's worth noting that the iPhone image is 50% larger in size than the one of the One X, despite the One X having a 62% higher megapixel count.
http://db.tt/rGo7L0wZ
http://db.tt/SDrPvKGe
I'm not wanting to slate the device unnecessarily - I still love it! I just feel a bit let down with the image quality, given how hyped it - and ImageSense was. Maybe HTC should change their lens supplier
How many camera applications did you try ?
I think its known that the original htc camera app does too much compression.
There are alternatives, as more threads to this issue. Did you check them out?
@Op,
I find it a bit disapointing to see people keep opening threads without doing a little search first.
There already exist a lot of threads about the camera, it's a waist on the board.
Please ask yourself what are you trying to succeed with opening this thread, what kind of responses would you get?
Yes, no, yes, no...?
Laurentius26 said:
@Op,
I find it a bit disapointing to see people keep opening threads without doing a little search first.
There already exist a lot of threads about the camera, it's a waist on the board.
Please ask yourself what are you trying to succeed with opening this thread, what kind of responses would you get?
Yes, no, yes, no...?
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Get a grip, there is no need to be a moody sod just because I said something negative about your device. I think it was perfectly constructive. I searched the forums and there is no such thread other than one about Sense Versus AOSP.
I just wanted to see if anyone else was a bit disappointed with the camera, and what suggestions they might have, as well as what their opinion is if they've moved from another device.
I like using HDR and haven't found a third party app yet that allows me to do so.
Besides which, shouldn't HTC have released a camera app that excels in the first place?
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Please use one of the already existent camera threads
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BETA CLOSED - Thanks to everyone for your interest and comments!
The Badasscase for the HTC ONE has been Released - Picture below!
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Hello XDA Members!
I am looking for a couple people to beta test a PROTOTYPE version of my cases for the HTC ONE.
Interested in people who can provide detailed feedback, enjoy experimenting, and hopefully have some knowledge of building/fabrication/hard core tinkering, etc. - Also, "vision" is a major plus... what I mean is if you are the type of person who sees and old, rusty, beat up classic car... and you immediately visualize the "Showcar" in your mind.
This is limited to the USA for shipping costs (which I will cover) and you absolutely MUST own the HTC ONE.
Social media nuts, bloggers, reviewers, would also be a plus.
I will be posting some pictures of the prototypes on Monday or Tuesday, and am also looking for feedback here on the different designs I have going so far.
If interested, shoot me a PM and please let me know a little bit about yourself! I will probably not reply back until Sunday/Monday, but I will reply to everyone who inquires.
Thanks
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YYYYEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHH BOI!!!!:laugh::good:
If one was to pay the extra needed to ship to the UK, would you consider shipping it someone in the UK?
definitely interested in this, let me in. Thanks
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Sounds great
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Me tooooooo, Clarksville tn
Nice idea, I'm in :thumbup:
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Might be interested too. Love to see what you have in mind
I'm buying my HTC One tomorrow and I'd be totally down to testing this out.
I'm interested.
I'd wanna test it out, but I'm in Aus. What if I was willing to pay postage ?
Edit: And of course, I do have a HTC One too.
I would like to beta test! I currently have my HTC One
In Florida, ordered my Stealth Black today, definitely interested.
Update : Picked up my Glacier Silver today.
HTC One Beta Tester Application
I would like to participate!
I'm in Florida and I have my HTC One in hand and would love to help you out!!
I have my silver One in hand. I'm in PA. I've also had several aluminum cases for my various other phones, so I might be able to offer you some insight in that regard.
Definitely interested, in California, with a silver One.
Also, if it helps I have a 1983 supra restored + modded (showcar, haha)
Man this is right up my alley as a conceptual design engineer.....shame I'm in the UK.....let me know if you want any drawings thrown together......
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Thanks for the overwhelming response!
Hello all,
Thanks for the huge response! I have a ton of PM's to go through and will be doing so throughout the day. I will make some decisions within the next 24-48 hours.
As far as shipping outside the US, there are a few reasons for this. Mainly the time delay involved getting it shipped/received.
From the responses, it seems some of you have not seen any of the cases I have done. I was thinking most would see my signature, but alas that doesn't show up when viewing from a phone (as far as I know). So below is a link to my facebook page (also in my sig) to give you an idea of what the case is going to be like.
In late March I prototyped the HTC ONE from pictures for this first run and have a company that laser cuts these for me. And I have 5 variations of "backs" and 2 "fronts" that I will have tomorrow. It takes a couple weeks to get parts from my vendor, so I have to be quick with my designs!
Since having my ONE, I have made some adjustments to the design, and will be double checking everything tomorrow with the first set of prototype parts. I will be sending off "version 2" later this week for a small production run in order to have product ready and available as quickly as possible for an upcoming trade show.
What I am looking for in testers, is mainly someone who can and will do some of the following.
Testing signals - Network/Wifi/Bluetooth/GPS/NFC etc.
An example, GPS - Let your significant other drive, while you have your ONE in the case and another similar android phone (no case) set to the same destination. During this trip, take notes of both phones if/when they lose GPS lock, how long it takes to reestablish GPS lock. Any differences between the two devices should be noted.
Also, as a control, run the same route, with both phones without a case taking the same notes to compare. With case/without case.
My main concern it signals. I do not want the case to degrade the ability of the phone in any way!
In my current production case for the HTC EVO 4G LTE (Full Back), the only issue is NFC, which is non-functional because of the aluminum back. For this reason I created an "open back" version to have a fully functional device. I prefer to have just one version for the ONE.
I will of course be running a multitude of tests myself, but am looking to compare my experience with a few other users to ensure a perfect product!
Also, I know some of you will be able to provide ideas/feedback that I might not think of. I do not plan to change much in my physical designs, but might do so according the feedback I receive.
Again, thanks for all of the PM's and I will be getting back to everyone within the next day... in the meantime, check the facebook page to see a few of the EVO LTE cases!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Badasscase-Co/230698967056021?ref=hl
Good evening everyone, on a wave of excitement caused by the latest update for HTC One X I think it might be the good time to discuss something more serious and disappointing.
It is very likely that HTC One X just came to its EOL. In this post I would like to keep any information relevant to the future of a 2012 flagship phone and I also would like to see some smart thoughts from forum members.
So here is how the future is seen at this moment:
Official HTC firmware updates
The latest official update that rolled out in mid-august is the 4th major update for HTC One X. It features Android 4.2.2 with the latest version of HTC Sense, including minor changes that present in the current HTC One (2013) firmware. It is almost completely obvious that Sense 5 with 4.2.2 is the last major update made by HTC.
It doesn't even need any explanation, but it may be nice to put up some facts proving the point of view expressed above:
There've been no HTC Android phones that made it to the 5th major update (first digit in the firmware version number). It is very unlikely that One X could become an exception;
There are no reasons for HTC to keep One X up-to-date for so long as it is being replaced from the market by newer models;
One X was released on April 2nd 2012. There are still 4 months left of Google update program, but no vendor except Google and possibly Samsung ever kept this promise;
HTC is generally known for a very naughty update policy. Look at our phones' little brother, HTC One V. It was released at the same time, but it never got any major update at all.
However, history knows a case when HTC being pressed by the community released a newest firmware for their phone marking it as forever-beta firmware. This phone was HTC Desire and it happened more than 2 years ago. I doubt that it could happen ever again.
But when it comes to minor updates, it is possible that we would get an official 4.3 update, which actually doesn't feature anything astonishingly new, and here's why:
HTC has trimmed their line-up considerably, so they should absolutely be able to provide support for longer. People will be looking to their treatment of the One S/X/X+ to gauge how well the new One devices will be updated. You know that HTC's outlook isn't great, so they need to do everything they can to improve their image.
The One X+ is much newer, so not getting 4.3 would be incredibly disappointing. Since the One X is basically the same device, it would not require much effort to update it as well.
4.3 is apparently such a minor update that multiple manufacturers won't release the 4.2 updates they've been working on and instead go right to 4.3...
In conclusion:
FUTURE ONE X OFFICIAL MAJOR FIRMWARE UPDATE IS VERY UNLIKELY, BUT A COUPLE OF MINOR UPDATES COULD GET RELEASED
Unofficial HTC firmware ports
Porting is a very sad thing to talk about when it comes to Sense ROMs on One X. HTC One X has Tegra 3 inside and it is the only HTC Android phone with this kind of SoC. Porting from devices with different SoC is extremely complicated and nearly impossible. However, this isn't true for HTC One XL which got a very popular Snapdragon SoC.
FUTURE ONE X UNOFFICIAL SENSE FIRMWARE PORTS ARE VERY UNLIKELY
Unofficial AOSP (Android Open-Source Project) development
AOSP is happily the last chance to keep One X up-to-date. Google Nexus 7 (2012) is based on the same Tegra 3 platform and this device will be up-to-date for a very long time. This fact + Android being an open source mobile OS + a huge AOSP development community gives us hope to get the latest Android versions in future. However, with all the simplicity of the AOSP development process, HOX AOSP community is being shrunk down:
- The device maintainers or devs for AOKP (IceColdJelly by LordClockan) and SlimBean (by Krarvind) don't anymore have a HOX or aren't using them and are unlike to provide updates for Android 4.3 and above.
- Pabx who has been deving for AOSP has also stated that he isn't sure if he has time to provide further updates for 4.3 +.
- Unless those roms get new maintainers or devs, the only AOSP style ROMs that will be developed in the future are Avatar ROM (a mix of CM and MIUI), Cyanogenmod and CarbonRom (their own take on AOSP - albeit updating HOX quite slowly).
- While it's very likely that Sense 5 will be the last major update from HTC and Sense ROM developers, it also looks like AOSP is slowly withering away.
THERE WILL BE SOME MAJOR AOSP RELEASES IN THE FUTURE
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In conclusion I should say that I'm a kind of person that likes everything new and because of that I will get a newer phone really soon as many other XDA forum members and it is very depressing since One X is really a great device in every aspect.
For those who are thinking of getting the One X, it is a relatively cheap but very nice device to get in 2013, but you shouldn't expect it to be up-to-date in terms of software.
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Everyone, make sure to express your point of view if you disagree with the information above. More information is always better.
The list of the nice guys who expressed their point of view and explained it, therefore making this post more informative and accurate:
akselic
amorpheus
very informative and great post mate
Lol I just decided to buy one ... and now I'm discovering it's its EOL ... anyway, I agree with the content of OP and I'm buying the HOX because I still think it's one of the best in terms of design and materials and I really believe in the developers community, that seems to be really active... Hoping it will be the same for a long time...
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Unofficial AOSP (Android Open-Source Project) development
AOSP is happily the last chance to keep One X up-to-date. Google Nexus 7 (2012) is based on the same Tegra 3 platform and this device will be up-to-date for a very long time. This fact + Android being an open source mobile OS + a huge AOSP development community gives us hope to get the latest Android versions in future.
THERE WILL BE LOTS OF AOSP RELEASES IN THE FUTURE
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Some thoughts on this:
- The device maintainers or devs for AOKP (IceColdJelly by LordClockan) and SlimBean (by Krarvind) don't anymore have a HOX or aren't using them and are unlike to provide updates for Android 4.3 and above.
- Pabx who has been deving for AOSP has also stated that he isn't sure if he has time to provide further updates for 4.3 +.
- Unless those roms get new maintainers or devs, the only AOSP style ROMs that will be developed in the future are Avatar ROM (a mix of CM and MIUI), Cyanogenmod and CarbonRom (their own take on AOSP - albeit updating HOX quite slowly).
- While it's very likely that Sense 5 will be the last major update from HTC and Sense ROM developers, it also looks like AOSP is slowly withering away.
While the HOX is an excellent phone, I am personally very disappointed that it is coming to the end of its lifespan in less than 1½ years. It also forces me to seriously reconsider my future device as I tend to stick to my phone for around 2 years until updating. There's no point in buying a device that will not only stop receiving updates from the manufacturer quickly but also halt development in such a short time period.
One more reason to only support Nexus (or a device like HTC One / SGS 4 with pure Android) in the future.
Hmm mate I've owned many phones. Whilst HTC are crap with updates..with the one x they did a good farewell. Sense 5 has bought life to it again. I had the HTC one..the hype wasn't deserved. It's still got a while yet. As for aosp..they never feel complete due to there camera
Besides who doesn't like upgrading. The only downfall with pure android is the goth colour scheme. Saying this I loved my gnex. The nexus 4 didn't compare.
Swings and roundabouts swings and roundabouts
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Very well written post. This time next year I'll have my next phone.
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I don't know, I hope that the HOX keeps getting updated through AOSP but our dev community is much smaller than it was before, what with most of our former kernel devs having quit or just disappeared, it seems like AOSP releases will be fewer and further between than before.
Don't forget that HTC isn't just bad with updates, they are also notoriously bad with kernel source releases, if i remember correctly it was very close to the 90 deadline when they released kernel source for the 4.1 update. and in the time leading up to that update and then subsequently waiting for source is when the majority of devs left.
The Hox is far from dead, there is no reason for Cyanogen mod or Maximus / ARHD roms to stop development soon, but my prediction is that in terms of community created content we won't see much that deviates from them.
it is a great boon for us that the Nexus 7 has the same chipset as us, however there are a lot of other parts at work in the HOX and many of them are not the same as the N7. This is probably why there are still some bugs in our AOSP roms, because it's not as simple as just porting from one device with the same chipset.
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It is almost completely obvious that Sense 5 with 4.2.2 is the last major update made by HTC.
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I don't think it is that simple. If nothing had changed between 2011 and 2013, your prediction would be spot-on, but that's not the case. Let me offer counterpoints to yours:
HTC has trimmed their line-up considerably, so they should absolutely be able to provide support for longer. People will be looking to their treatment of the One S/X/X+ to gauge how well the new One devices will be updated. You know that HTC's outlook isn't great, so they need to do everything they can to improve their image.
The One X+ is much newer, so not getting 4.3 would be incredibly disappointing. Since the One X is basically the same device, it would not require much effort to update it as well.
4.3 is apparently such a minor update that multiple manufacturers won't release the 4.2 updates they've been working on and instead go right to 4.3...
So I think it may very well be the case that we'll see more updates, at least 4.3 - unless HTC really doesn't want to survive as a company. But major Android updates (5.x) are out of the picture, that much is obvious and understandable.
(P.S.: When referring to the One S I mean the S4 version - if Qualcomm doesn't provide updates for their S3 processor any more, HTC can't realistically provide them either.)
I feel like the hox was the spiritual successor to the desire, the community surrounding it has a lot of enthusiastic fans that still see the potential in the phone, you never know what could occur?
Whether another update comes out or not I'm never selling this phone, actually so attached to it.
sent from a very happy hox
The only semi official word we have so far is this
Jeff Gordon @urbanstrata 2h
@Libzzor Who says the One X won't get 4.3?
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https://twitter.com/urbanstrata/status/366803640503107584
HTC is generally known for a very naughty update policy. Look at our phones' little brother, HTC One V. It was released at the same time, but it never got any major update at all.
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HTC deals with flagships very differently to affordable low end products like One V so your comparison doesn't stand, if the device is upper end and sold well they will still give it better support
There've been no HTC Android phones that made it to the 5th major update (first digit in the firmware version number). It is very unlikely that One X could become an exception
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The One X was the first to make it to 4.x so who's to say it won't make it to 5.x, 4.3 is considered as minor / easy over 4.2.2 by HTC so why not
They have never supported a device like they gave to the One X, which shows how much they regard this device (they sold around 15 million of them)
Finally "naughty" stories like Desire HD and One S are to be blamed on suppliers failing to provide updated drivers
With all said and done, you can't blame them if they stop the support either, they have almost met their 18 months commitment
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I feel like the hox was the spiritual successor to the desire, the community surrounding it has a lot of enthusiastic fans that still see the potential in the phone, you never know what could occur?
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Nothing similar at all. However, One X is technically a successor to the Sensation, which community also looked exactly like the HOX community.
UPD: Updated the op-post, adding the information given by the forum members.
Assuming HTC continues to provide updates, what about people's warranties? Wouldn't a manufacturer cut off any non critical updates after most devices have gone off their original warranty period? Its been mostly a full year for the early adopters, has anyone got extended warranty or different policies (say EU and China with their 2-year legal enforcement?)
This of course affects no AOSP stuff since we pretty much gave up our warranties the day we unlocked the boot loader anyway, but we could probably refer to warranty lengths for a flagship device to see how much HTC will squeeze out of it.
There are no One X's on sale right now are they? Like brand new ones, not the secondhand market.
True, fair thought and points. Give you thumb up for this!
I wouldn't demand on a new firmware version number starting with 5.xx for edeavorU. If it does happened, it would be suprise with appreciation..
Here is my views of future updates from the perspective how update will be handles:-
Talking about possibly future 'major' HTC updates for HOX, we should first look onto how they decided to treat Android 4.3 to theirs newer flagships first since the strategy will much likely reflect down to us.
There is still unclear how HTC plan to handle Android 4.3, I mean wether it come with same Sense version or newer. The major overhaul's Sense 5 already extent itself through Android 4.1 and 4.2. Under HTC tradition, most likely they will bring Sense 5.1 / 5 Max (hmm.. learnt from X+'s case) with little polishing. Furthermore, Android 4.3 was known to be has minimal user facing changes.
"Lots of questions re 4.3 release for One. We r wrking hard (needs cert) to release 4.3 across all US, Canada skus by end Sept. DNA as well." --- Jason Mackenzie (@HTC US President)
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Taking the statement into account, obviously HTC has only left some little extra times and reasons to rush out Sense 5.5 nor Sense 6. Unless HTC really want to expense un-necessity major Sense version bump over high public expectance of new Android version.
If you have time do read this: Why Android Updates Are So Slow. Hardware manufacturers is what I wanna to talk on next. Luckly, HTC only uses major ARM processor makers to make phone, in case there are Qualcomm and nVidia. Both of them are also Google nexus partners present on nexus product catalogs. It means they are working closely since Google initiated their work on Android 4.3. In layman's term, there is no extra waiting time for HTC to wait for the arrival of Android 4.3 equivalent kernel sources. However, HTC might still need to wait for other component makers to update their libraries to match and work on new Android. Ironically, from technical standpoint there is reasons why Android 4.3 still named JellyBean. For those component makers they only had to deal with little obstacles because there is much lesser lower level changes on Android. We do know those hardware manufacturers is punctual for HTC One given that HTC One GPE's OTA is only 9 days behind. However, it is not always truth for non-first priority devices like HOX.
So what these all means? Android 4.3 may not impose heavy burden on HTC as many of us thoughts. (because they can actually skip 4.2 on some products too).
If HTC's update plan went smoothly as Jason Mackenzie stated, there will be more likely we might see yet another major firmware version bump. Albiet, we're incapable of getting OpenGL ES 3.0 support...
It seems to be coming closer to EOL buy in my country they still sell HTC One X for 400€ (2 years warranty) while the One costs 490€...
All good things must come to an end. When my HOX turns 2 it will be finding a new home via eBay, it doesn't appear to to be too far away as time flies when your having fun. Great device and still enjoying it, the only issue I will have is what to replace it with...... it has be just as reliable, more powerful and aesthetically pleasing which I think means I'll hold on to it at least 2 months longer whilst deciding.
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Assuming HTC continues to provide updates, what about people's warranties? Wouldn't a manufacturer cut off any non critical updates after most devices have gone off their original warranty period? Its been mostly a full year for the early adopters, has anyone got extended warranty or different policies (say EU and China with their 2-year legal enforcement?)
This of course affects no AOSP stuff since we pretty much gave up our warranties the day we unlocked the boot loader anyway, but we could probably refer to warranty lengths for a flagship device to see how much HTC will squeeze out of it.
There are no One X's on sale right now are they? Like brand new ones, not the secondhand market.
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Warranty presumes a proper device operation on the full length of the warranty, doesn't have to do anything with the software updates unless it's essential to keep the device in the condition stated in the warranty.
Just bought on eBay a One X 32gb white, for about 310€ in mint conditions (finger crossed) , because I was tired of my (excellent) Galaxy Nexus (18 months old) ... I want something more elegant ...
I'm sure we will see 2/3 months of Sense custom Roms with a lot of optimization based on latest update, then CM based roms for a long time ... At the moment on the market there is nothing so excellent that convinced me to spend the double (or little bit less) of what I spent for the HOX ...
The only thing I would like to see on the HOX soon or later is the Modaco switch like on the HTC One and now ported to the S4 ... Do you think it will be possible?
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furius said:
Just bought on eBay a One X 32gb white, for about 310€ in mint conditions (finger crossed) , because I was tired of my (excellent) Galaxy Nexus (18 months old) ... I want something more elegant ...
I'm sure we will see 2/3 months of Sense custom Roms with a lot of optimization based on latest update, then CM based roms for a long time ... At the moment on the market there is nothing so excellent that convinced me to spend the double (or little bit less) of what I spent for the HOX ...
The only thing I would like to see on the HOX soon or later is the Modaco switch like on the HTC One and now ported to the S4 ... Do you think it will be possible?
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Modaco Switch is made to switch to the OFFICIAL aosp build and connecting to the proper OTA branch.
Obviously it won't come to any other phones besides One and S4 since there's no other phones with the official AOSP firmware.
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Warranty presumes a proper device operation on the full length of the warranty, doesn't have to do anything with the software updates unless it's essential to keep the device in the condition stated in the warranty.
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Yep I know, but would a manufacturer hold onto providing updates if everyone's devices are already "expired" (in warranty sense)? I don't know about business strategy though, whether maintaining a long software update cycle would be better for further marketing and sales (It's certainly positive when it's existent, but what if it was lacking?)
An important issue delaying timely updates is all the testing, if we buy unlocked versions it's the manufacturer, otherwise add carrier to the list... I wouldn't expect a 5.x update (but I've been running stock/CM/Carbon/AOKP since day one) as long as all the drivers and sources are properly supplied...
And just dreaming, if HTC could S-OFF our phones after it decides to stop providing updates it would be so great
Sold the HOX to a mate, with the cash puchased a note 2 for the gf which in return I got her iphone 5. All I can say is android destroys ios! Battery wise iphone kills the HOX. Called my friend to see if he will let me buy it back but no luck....im back on ebay looking for a bargain HOX, I thought id never say this I miss sense.
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