I have an XPERIA Arc LT15i. Single-core 1-GHz processor, 512 MB of RAM (much less available to the user, though). I've tried different ROMs, and the highest that I'd ever got on the Antutu benchmark was somewhere in the 5000s. Usually, though, it hovers between 4400 and 4800-ish. I tried a CM10-based MIUI ROM a while back, however, and the Antutu scores were completely off the charts.
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I'm wondering how it's possible for a 1-GHz single-core processor to match a much superior (dual-core) processor (the Optimus 2X) in terms of performance. Or are these benchmarks, which the myriads of review sites out there use to make comparisons between phones, actually rubbish? I'd love to have some clarifications/opinions.
On arc s overclocked to 1.6 running CM10 and a Fusion kernel I'm getting 6250 without rebooting before benchmark and with a few processes running in a background.
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I'll try with stock 1.4 and report results.
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6148 on 1.4ghz. Also keep in mind that anyone can install a GB rom with kernel that supports overclocking up to 2.0ghz to get even bigger score. Arc s is still a pretty capable device.
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Oh you were talking about arc not arc s xD But my point is still true because there is only 400mhz of difference between these phones.
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But its not cheating... I agree that benchmarks are not really that accurate and every score should be taken with a grain of salt but overclocking is not cheating. Cheating would be making a modifications to antutu apk for bigger scores.
Thank you for your opinions. However, I've never overclocked the processor on my phone to this date. The mere thought gives me the jitters. What if it burns out? Going by those scores, maybe the ROM overclocked the processor itself without my knowing. Have any of you tried overclocking, though? And, have you noticed any difference in performance or stability issues? Maybe the battery would drain out quicker, too.
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Thank you for your opinions. However, I've never overclocked the processor on my phone to this date. The mere thought gives me the jitters. What if it burns out? Going by those scores, maybe the ROM overclocked the processor itself without my knowing. Have any of you tried overclocking, though? And, have you noticed any difference in performance or stability issues? Maybe the battery would drain out quicker, too.
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If you have read my previous post you would know everything that you asked. On CM10 I'm getting more than 6000 points in antutu without any overclocking (arc s CPU's frequency is 1.4ghz) : D Its not that scores on CM10 are high its just that scores on stock firmware are low. Sony's software is bloated and ****ty in overall.
Overclocking is safe if you are doing it with brain. If you set Arc CPU (1ghz) to 2ghz it will fry for sure but setting it to 1.2 should be perfectly safe. Overclocked phone drains battery faster but its pretty obvious everything is stable and a little smoother.
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If you have read my previous post you would know everything that you asked. On CM10 I'm getting more than 6000 points in antutu without any overclocking (arc s CPU's frequency is 1.4ghz) : D Its not that scores on CM10 are high its just that scores on stock firmware are low. Sony's software is bloated and ****ty in overall.
Overclocking is safe if you are doing it with brain. If you set Arc CPU (1ghz) to 2ghz it will fry for sure but setting it to 1.2 should be perfectly safe. Overclocked phone drains battery faster but its pretty obvious everything is stable and a little smoother.
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No, I would NOT have known everything that I'd asked. My question was whether there were any stability or battery-drain issues with overclocking, but none of those queries were addressed on your previous post.
But thanks for the clarifications on the scores. Yes, stock ICS is absolute rubbish, that's why I've moved on to CM10/Jelly Bean. It doesn't have the "customizations" you can get with stock ICS, but it's smooth, responsive, fluid, and that's what matters to me.
By the way, I do believe 400 MHz SHOULD make quite a bit of a difference. A 600-MHz processor and a 1-GHz processor wouldn't be giving a similar performance. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Overclocking your Arc to 1.4GHz should be a clearly visible upgrade but I'm not sure if this would be healthy for your phone. It's almost 50% more in performance but under heavy load this could cause some high temperatures and degradation of your phone's battery and cpu life. My Arc s is clocked at 1.6 all the time and it doesn't even gets too hot while playing games so 200MHz more seems right and safe to me.
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Values described in this post as "safe" or "best" may not be the same for you so google everything before making any changes to your phone.
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Hi.
I'm have now rewritten the Spreadsheet and will shortly be integrating my CPU benchmarks and GPU benchmarks into the same sheet (not really that interesting or anything but it's there if you want to see exactly how things are worked out) but it explains why the progress has been slow recently. I have now taken this thread over from Arkymedes - and a HUGE thanks to him for creating the spreadsheet and doing most of the benchmarks which are still being referenced in them. He has done a brilliant job!
This page will continue to keep the tests strictly to GPU performance. CPU performance can be viewed here.
(like Arkymedes) I will take in consideration the clock used in each ROM and try to use the maximum allowed by the kernel using SetCPU. HOWEVER, all rom's will be tested at 691 MHz for consistency and any other frequencies will be detailed.
About JIT, unfortunately, all Arkmedes tests show that it doesn't affect 3D performance YET, since all this apps are not properly optimized and didn't take JIT into account. However, this may change with Froyo builds so keep an eye out.
All the ROM's clocked @ 691MHz "Performance" under SetCPU, unless specified otherwise. All tests are conducted 5 times and an average is taken. The tests are carried out in Aeroplane mode with no widgets running on the desktop. No apps are installed aside from the benchmark apps and Apps2SD is used (if enabled by the ROM). The latest version of the benchmark software is always used (they usually only add support for new phones in updates rather than changing benchmark parameters).
Benchmark apps:
Neocore - Qualcomm's own benchmark tool for 3D performance. Measured in FPS
Benchmark - Softweg's test suite for benchmarking. Only the GPU test done here to account for 2D performance. Measured by an internal score.
An3DBench - Tests based on jPCT, a free 3D engine for Java. 7 tests showing the capabilities of the engine. Measured by an internal score.
Note that all the tests mean: The higher the score, the better.
Anyway, here it goes
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A little suggestion: you should specify wether whe rom is sense or vanilla, and also the CPU clock used for the tests.
Can't wait!
that's a long couple of hours.......
Are you going to do VillainROM 10.2 with Sense + JIT enabled? If not I can try and do a benchmark.
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I believe in the EzHero 2.7 stats, that jit is not enabled, with jit EzHero 2.7 is equal or greater than EzHero 2.0
maybe link each of the roms in the first thread for people to easily find...being quite new here i cant fins the Androbin-cr2-5.0.7...what ever that one is...
Your efforts are highly appreciated, good job.
But there is a problem: you didn't say which ROM is JIT enabled and which is not, because as you see CPU benchmarks have better results on JIT enabled ROMs, even though, as you can see, 3D is not affected.
My bench marks
My benchmarks with EzHero 2.7+ JIT:
Linpack- 4.886
Neocore w/ sound- 30.2FPS
Neocore w/o sound- 33.2FPS
Quadrant Standard- 280
Benchmark Pi- 7222 milliseconds
Very good job on the post, well done keeping us informed!
Hello!
What I'm trying to do here is to benchmark any version that I can find in these forums WITHOUT any further optmization. The benchmarkings are done OUT OF THE BOX
So, if I have to MANUALLY enable JIT or any OC AFTER the flashing, it will NOT show in these graphics!
I didn't do that because it is just impossible for me to keep track of every single optmization that can be done to every single one of this ROM's. I just don't have the time and resources for that.
So again, all this tests are done straight after the flashing of the downloaded ROM (logically, after some reboots and bla bla bla).
I really hope that you guys understand that. It's not a way to show which ROM is better, since there are MANY more factors that dictate that, like BT calls, GPS and so on. It's just a way to measure mostly 3D performance out of the box with the ROM's you provide.
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maybe link each of the roms in the first thread for people to easily find...being quite new here i cant fins the Androbin-cr2-5.0.7...what ever that one is...
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That's a good idea, but I guess the WIKI sticked in the first page should have done the job. It will be redundant but I can try to keep track of them.
Man sad day, all you have to do in EzHero to enable jit is go to the terminal app and type jit-on.
Still, job well done! Kudos!
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Man sad day, all you have to do in EzHero to enable jit is go to the terminal app and type jit-on.
Still, job well done! Kudos!
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I will add EZHero 2.7 with JIT enabled after Italy x Paraguay
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I will add EZHero 2.7 with JIT enabled after Italy x Paraguay
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World Cup always comes first my friend lol
its raining pretty hard in the game...
anyways, so 2.0 is JIT enabled and 2.7 is not in your graph? because huge difference in linpack scores with the older having a better score.
you should also mention Benchmark Pi - lower the score, the better.
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its raining pretty hard in the game...
anyways, so 2.0 is JIT enabled and 2.7 is not in your graph? because huge difference in linpack scores with the older having a better score.
you should also mention Benchmark Pi - lower the score, the better.
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Yeah, 2.0 is jit enabled, but now 2.7 is optional due to complaints and split decisions. I posted the benchmarks with jit on the last post of the front page
im a Sense guy but its been awhile since I tried a non-sense one, your ROM is rrreally tempting right now lol
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im a Sense guy but its been awhile since I tried a non-sense one, your ROM is rrreally tempting right now lol
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Well vanilla Eclair and EzHero are both great roms, heck even Androbin is tied with those two.
In the Quadrant Graph, androbin doesn't have his bar.
Does anyone have a work around for the 30 fps cap the Incredible has on the GPU?
What 30fps cap?
More like, it just doesn't have enough balls to hit 30+ fps, most the time
hahaha true true. I've read that HTC has capped the EVO and the Incredible at 30fps on the GPU.
No, just the Evo. Something to do with HDMI.
I would expect a higher quadrant score with the 1ghz processor the Droid X almost puts up the same numbers and it's running 2.1.
The GPU is making up for it. Quadrant is very GPU oriented.
That and the OMAP is faster. So its a lose-lose situation for us. The GPU in the X walks all over ours.
Kind of like integrated graphics vs a discrete graphics card in a computer.
Makes sense...too bad though I'm the type of guy that always has to have the latest and greatest don't get me wrong the incredible is a great phone can't beat the form factor but I wish it had a little more power under the hood in the area of graphics processing.
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Makes sense...too bad though I'm the type of guy that always has to have the latest and greatest don't get me wrong the incredible is a great phone can't beat the form factor but I wish it had a little more power under the hood in the area of graphics processing.
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I agree 100%.
adrynalyne said:
The GPU is making up for it. Quadrant is very GPU oriented.
That and the OMAP is faster. So its a lose-lose situation for us. The GPU in the X walks all over ours.
Kind of like integrated graphics vs a discrete graphics card in a computer.
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It's pretty interesting actually. I thought the same thing, until I saw quadrant run on a droid X. It does get higher fps in most of the 3d tests, (the rotating planet/moon is really choppy and in the low teens of fps)
Anyway, because I had nothing better to spend my money on, I bought the advanced version of quadrant.
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The GPU does score a bit higher in 3d, though for whatever reason the I/O (read/write test) scores crazy high compared to anything else. That's where the most
of the score is coming from...
but on topic, there is no framerate cap. Download fps2d fro the android market and see for yourself.
It's interesting that you say that. I've been doing a lot of development work lately on the DInc and when transferring files I have been getting blazing speeds... much higher than on any other solid state/card reading device I own (why couldn't Nvidia stick a sexy little GPU in there... *sigh* just have to wait a couple years).
I think the lack of 3D performance on the Incredible is due to the drivers HTC includes for the Adreno GPU. I've read that the drivers they include aren't optimized or tweaked at all.
I remember there being a thread a while back about porting drivers from the Samsung devices using it since they were getting much better performance out of the same GPU. Anyone remember that or have any new info on that development?
I'm very disappointed with the Slackdragon chip. I hate the slow downs during game play. Asphalt consistently crashes on this phone.
The guys using the more than 3yr old HTC Vogue just got a new kernel and are enjoying over 30fps on Neocore. I have never reached 26fps. Granted they have DZO who's a brilliant programer but there is no reason why a phone that's years old and is not even an Android phone (at least not native) should be anywhere close to our phone. That phone came with a 400mhz chip and no drivers for the GPU.
I love the form factor and screen on this phone but I doubt any amount of overclocking will ever solve its problems. My next phone will definitely not have Qualcomm chip.
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I enjoy the phone for what it is.
Otherwise I would have returned it. If someone bought this phone thinking it was a gaming powerhouse...LOL?
Buyer beware, research first.
I will take a 1ghz CPU over a 550mhz CPU, even if it plays games better. I need it to be fast as a phone, not crappy slow except for games.
When Android starts being GPU driven, then I will pay more attention to faster gpus.
You can have the fastest GPU of all, and still run like crap. Ask Samsung Galaxy S owners who are suffering lag and slowness due to apps installing only to sd internal storage But hey, they run games fast!
Dude I didn't buy the phone to replace my xbox but it'd be nice if games didn't crash on my phone. On paper the snapdragon seems great but in all actuality the first Droid isn't far behind at all at half the speed and it out performs this phone when overclocked to 1.2ghz.
I still really like this phone especially now with Froyo but that doesn't mean I can't wish the snapdragon chip wasn't a slacker. I did my research and unless I went with the iphone (which I'd never get) I was not get better 3d performance...on paper. Even video slows down on this phone sometimes. That just doesn't seem right
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Take Froyo on both phones.
Run Linpack with Moto at 1.2ghz, and Dinc at 1ghz.
Chuckle at how much higher score the Dinc gets.
The game performance is about the same (with oc'ed Moto Droid taking the lead), but the rest is not even in the same ballpark as the Dinc.
It's likely capped at 30 fps to sync with display refresh rate (otherwise known as v sync ) and yes with modifications to the drivers it will be possible to increase this. But as for now I agree with adrenaline and enjoy the phone for what it is.
Don't get me wrong I'm always game for more performance but even at stock clock speeds the incredible is plenty fast. Faster gpu would be at the bottom of my list for tweaks to be made. Even so I'm sure someone will be working on it soon enough.
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I have the leaked ota update from a few weeks ago and the newest radio, when I run quadrant I get a score of 850 or so, I've heard of people getting scores near 1400 on a droid incredible and I was wondering what I could do to increase my phone performance and increase my quadrant score.
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I have the leaked ota update from a few weeks ago and the newest radio, when I run quadrant I get a score of 850 or so, I've heard of people getting scores near 1400 on a droid incredible and I was wondering what I could do to increase my phone performance and increase my quadrant score.
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Flash a KingxKlick Kernel the best one i think is the new BFS #1
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Flash a KingxKlick Kernel the best one i think is the new BFS #1
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I;m using the BFS Kernel at 1.113GHZ and got a score of 1580 with the governor set at performance. When it's on conservative, I get around 1350 to 1450 when it feels like giving me the performance. The conservative governor isn't meant for performance but it's still a good score when it's trying to save some battery.
Low?
Grab KINgxKernel BFS #1 and Set Cpu. You can OC the Kernel to 1.19 but 1.15 is stable. Was able to reach 1669 in Quadrant with this Kernel.
when you are running those kernels do you really notice a performance increase, or just an improved quadrant score?
also how do these kernels affect battery life
I'm using kings 3 kernel and get about 20 hours out of the battery. Definitely notice and increase. I don't OC and am just using the stock kernel settings.
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I'm using kings #3 and am at 30% remaining and 26 hrs unplugged. Definitely worth the try
great thanks, I'll check out those kernels.
Also would a kernel update like this allow for a 802.11n wifi connection?
hmm.... I just installed the #3 kernel and my quadrant score is still sitting around 780, maybe i'm misunderstanding something.
I have the BFS #1 kernel and the offical OTA leak installed, OC'd to 1.113 and set to performance. I was able to get 1408, highest i've ever gotten.
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does the #1 kernel see the same battery life increases as #3?
Love the BFS #1 with SKyRaider 3.0 RC2!
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hmm.... I just installed the #3 kernel and my quadrant score is still sitting around 780, maybe i'm misunderstanding something.
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Same here. Running sr 2.5.2, and king 3 set to 1.19 performance, I've turned off sync and killed all running apps but still can't get over 1080 on quadrant. Are theses Higher scores from a fresh install with no market apps installed?
I loaded the leaked rom and run about 1160.
Nobody says as to change the kernal or oc......
I get a little over 1100 on quadrant but im running genocide .4 I've seen people tuning genocide with over 1700 I don't get it.
arcangel1000 said:
I get a little over 1100 on quadrant but im running genocide .4 I've seen people tuning genocide with over 1700 I don't get it.
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Don't worry about it, I've been told Quadrant scores are pointless.
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Don't worry about it, I've been told Quadrant scores are pointless.
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QFT. My current setup of Incredikernel + MIUI 1.3.5 can get Quadrants in the 1500 range, but It doesn't seem any better than when I used to get 900's. Find a ROM you like, a kernel that has decent battery life, and smile, you'll have it as good as it gets!
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Milestone Overclock - a free download from the marketplace does now support the Defy. Quadrant shows promising figures for sure.
Just wondering whether anyone has gotten the Defy to Overclock?
I've been trying some Droid Overclock apps as well as purchasing Set CPU.
I've successfully rooted my phone which is a requirement for enabling overclocking features. Set CPU won't even start.
None of the apps I've tried have been working properly.
Any tips?
in developement
Look on the milestone overclock googlecode page, its on the todo list
good to know
Yepp, thanx a lot. Since the chipset has clear OC potential this will be very interesting. Especially if the Defy has an omap3630 core, we'll see.
dave79 said:
Yepp, thanx a lot. Since the chipset has clear OC potential this will be very interesting. Especially if the Defy has an omap3630 core, we'll see.
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I'm pretty confident that it does indeed have a 3630: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9540564&postcount=34
Not only because of the screenshot from windows, but look at how close it is to the Droid X, running a 1ghz 3630.
Wow! and getting that benchmark score while running on 800MHz is quite impressive. I've got good hopes that a ported Milestone Overclock will unleash the raw power the phone truly possess.
And this is not the best defy can do. Actually 1117 has been reported from 2 users (one is me).
Im not sure how this phone is so amazing, and so cheap at the same time
umm yeah anyways, just wanted to say i got quadrant scored of around 1110 to 1118 ish i think- after task killing
Really hoping for some custom 2.2 roms in the near future, like some others said it will make this probably -one of- the best androids out there
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And this is not the best defy can do. Actually 1117 has been reported from 2 users (one is me).
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My personal best is 1104
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Whoa, nice one, Higgsy!
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Whoa, nice one, Higgsy!
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weeeeell to be fair there was a little cheat there, that was with JIT enabled. But JIT by the standard method wasn't stable, at first it was fine but then after ab out an hour I started to get random force closes, so I reverted. Its a little insight to what can be achieved with JIT. IMO I'll take JIT over a 1GHZ overclock.
Could anyone of you guys share your benchmark results after running Milestone Overclock? I'm now running on 1.2GHz and it's stable
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And this is not the best defy can do. Actually 1117 has been reported from 2 users (one is me).
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My first benchmark result was in mid 1000 but after a restart I got that score too.
To use JIT is better wait for froyo because have it in native form. There are a appl called JITTER in the market but I think that isn't reliable. (I don't know about other appl similar than)
Now I use the Milestone Overclock beta4 and configure the oc at 1000/56
Someone have better configuration to use? Can explain why?
Hey guys.. Overclocked my Defy with the Milestone Overclock. 1200/66
Got a 1438 benchmark on Quadrant Standard. Putting the vsel any lower got my Device to reboot.
After trying it out I switched back to 1000/52 because some users said that running on 66vsel could damage the CPU.
Main effect I had: Launcher runs very smooth, My battery life went down to 24 hours (37h before).
With 1000/52 I still get a benchmark around 1247
Works for me because I´m saving battery and still got enough power to have a smooth launcher.
But: Can anyone please tell me what the standard settings are ? *lol* Forgot them 800Mhz an vsel=???
Thx in advance.
Daniel (from germany)
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Hey guys.. Overclocked my Defy with the Milestone Overclock. 1200/66
Got a 1438 benchmark on Quadrant Standard. Putting the vsel any lower got my Device to reboot.
After trying it out I switched back to 1000/52 because some users said that running on 66vsel could damage the CPU.
Main effect I had: Launcher runs very smooth, My battery life went down to 24 hours (37h before).
With 1000/52 I still get a benchmark around 1247
Works for me because I´m saving battery and still got enough power to have a smooth launcher.
But: Can anyone please tell me what the standard settings are ? *lol* Forgot them 800Mhz an vsel=???
Thx in advance.
Daniel (from germany)
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Someone in the other thread was running 800/38, I haven't tried it because like you 1000/52 gives me better battery life than stock and more power on top.
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Someone in the other thread was running 800/38, I haven't tried it because like you 1000/52 gives me better battery life than stock and more power on top.
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Thanks for answering ;0)
I just wanted to know the original settings in case I wanted to restore them someday.
Or do I just have to click on "unload module" for that ?!? (I gues that´s it I was just to blind/dumb to see it *lol*)
Thx ;0)
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Thanks for answering ;0)
I just wanted to know the original settings in case I wanted to restore them someday.
Or do I just have to click on "unload module" for that ?!? (I gues that´s it I was just to blind/dumb to see it *lol*)
Thx ;0)
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Yeah just unload module and untick apply on boot and your back to stock
Im currently running 1100MHZ with a 58vsel, seems stable so far and got a quadrant benchmark of 1317. But i am wondering if this setting is safe for long term use, I need my phone to last till the end of this conract
I ran Quadrant Pro at 1802mhz on the CPU and 512mhz on the GPU (Franco Kernel & Jelly Belly ROM)
This was the result.
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Did your phone explode? Because I don't see a picture.
And you posted this here..... Why?
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I ran Quadrant Pro at 1802mhz on the CPU and 512mhz on the GPU (Franco Kernel & Jelly Belly ROM)
This was the result.
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thats lousy! id be embarrassed to show that off to people. i suggest a kernel change. anyways, that post does not belong here in development, nor anywhere near development heres trinity at 1728mhz..
simms22 said:
thats lousy! id be embarrassed to show that off to people. i suggest a kernel change heres trinity at 1728mhz..
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LMAO! Damn you simms
can't beat simms at his own game =P
First off, that's embarrassingly low. I've gotten 4,000+ at 1.6GHz. Second why the hell did you post that in this section? I thought you needed 10 posts to post in a dev forum. Mods please close and OP read the damn rules.
irizwan said:
can't beat simms at his own game =P
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lol, unfortunately not true though. there are a few that know how.
i just think that anybody running at 1802mhz should know how to propery use it or not be allowed to run that high of an oc. i mean, the op isnt getting any benefit from it unless you call a higher rate of battery loss a benefit. learn how to benefit from a high oc like this, or dont use it. its pointless to show off that youre using a high oc if a slightly oc'd(1344mhz kernel) can run laps around your phone. dont get me wrong, i know that franco kernel is capable, but this does it no justice.
simms22 said:
thats lousy! id be embarrassed to show that off to people. i suggest a kernel change. anyways, that post does not belong here in development, nor anywhere near development heres trinity at 1728mhz..
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trinity FTW!
Then someone do tell me a good kernel and how to do a proper OC thats stable, efficient etc etc.. Im **** at OC'ing.. i just put franco kernel 512mhz and was allowed the option to go 1802mhz, which ive never seen before..
What development are you doing here?
None? Then why is it posted in development?!!
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Slemhelge said:
Then someone do tell me a good kernel and how to do a proper OC thats stable, efficient etc etc.. Im **** at OC'ing.. i just put franco kernel 512mhz and was allowed the option to go 1802mhz, which ive never seen before..
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Franco Kernel is a great kernel, yo must be doing wrong. I have achieved that score with franco's at 1.3 OC and Stock JB ROM...
Slemhelge said:
Then someone do tell me a good kernel and how to do a proper OC thats stable, efficient etc etc.. Im **** at OC'ing.. i just put franco kernel 512mhz and was allowed the option to go 1802mhz, which ive never seen before..
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try them all, or a few different kernels at least. every phone is different, and will react differently to different kernels. also, just because you can oc to 1802, doesnt mean that your phone will properly handle it. at this point, it looks like you arent getting any of the gain from this high oc(some loss actually), but are going through your battery like you are. first off, at that high oc, turn off thermal throttling if you are going to benchmark. play with adjusting voltages until you find your sweet spot at that oc. try ocing less too, your phone might not like 1802, or 1700, or 1600.. not many phones do. also, when you benchmark, benchmark with your hiest cpu speed/highest cpu speed(1802/1802) so that you dont scale and actually bench 1802mhz.
simms22 said:
turn off thermal throttling if you are going to benchmark.
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This is the key point that I believe the OP forgot to do.
IAmAN00bie said:
This is the key point that I believe the OP forgot to do.
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very likely youre right.
Not even worth overclocking honestly.
Only for benchmark scores, your phone most likely doesn't run that much faster.
I Am Marino said:
Not even worth overclocking honestly.
Only for benchmark scores, your phone most likely doesn't run that much faster.
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funny, only people that dont overclock say that, i guess they really do believe it for themselves. but in reality, there is a difference. if its a slight overclock, its not that different. when its a big overclock, the difference can be dramatic.
simms22 said:
funny, only people that dont overclock say that, i guess they really do believe it for themselves. but in reality, there is a difference. if its a slight overclock, its not that different. when its a big overclock, the difference can be dramatic.
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I have overclocked before, I've done it before on the GNex as well.
I mean it was a huge increase of ability to a single core phone and early dual cores but for a phone already seemingly perfect on the software side, the phone already screams as stock clock speeds.
Besides, is it worth the probable loss of battery life? A marginally higher benchmark score? Things opening 1 or 2ms faster?
This is all just my opinion, I have no hard facts behind all this, but at least in my own personal testing and experimenting, there was no obvious benefit.
Provided you might be right, I've never OC'ed past 1.5, but beyond that, what's the effect on the health of the hardware, and like I said, battery life?
I could be totally wrong and I'm not against admitting being wrong.
Just personal preference I guess.
I Am Marino said:
I have overclocked before, I've done it before on the GNex as well.
I mean it was a huge increase of ability to a single core phone and early dual cores but for a phone already seemingly perfect on the software side, the phone already screams as stock clock speeds.
Besides, is it worth the probable loss of battery life? A marginally higher benchmark score? Things opening 1 or 2ms faster?
This is all just my opinion, I have no hard facts behind all this, but at least in my own personal testing and experimenting, there was no obvious benefit.
Provided you might be right, I've never OC'ed past 1.5, but beyond that, what's the effect on the health of the hardware, and like I said, battery life?
I could be totally wrong and I'm not against admitting being wrong.
Just personal preference I guess.
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agreed. i myself use stock frequencies on franco kernel i've used almost all kernels and roms possible but now i've stuck with aokp n franco smooth even when under-clocked to 1 Ghz. i find no point of oc'ing other than just benchmarking usually get 3.4-3.3K on quadrant with normal freq.
simms22 said:
funny, only people that dont overclock say that, i guess they really do believe it for themselves. but in reality, there is a difference. if its a slight overclock, its not that different. when its a big overclock, the difference can be dramatic.
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Your phone spends most of its life in the 350/700mhz range.
Signed,
An Overclocker