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[Q] Question about replacing ear speaker on my Defy! IMPORTANT!

I watched a few seconds of a video on taking apart the defy, while they are taking a certain part off, i believe they are separating the screen, it flashes a message saying
"DO NOT REUSE FRONT (SOMETHING)" what are they talking about??? would i really have to order ANOTHER piece now?
(i have the new earspeaker ready, the tools ready, just want to make sure i have everything i need, because i really hope i dont have to replace ANOTHER piece of the phone just to replace the ear speaker...)
Any help GREATLY appreciated!

and you didn't provide the link to the video?
if i'm not wrong, you are watching a video on how to take the defy apart in general and not a video on how to replace the speaker? from memory, i read a post sometime ago about this and you don't have to do everything that video did just to remove the speaker. you only have to replace the speaker and nothing else.
if i can find that post i'll link it later.....
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ok i'm back, with the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12094566#post12094566

Only replace the front casing if you are changing the touch panel as it glued very tight making sure it's dust proof. Earpiece is on separate location which you can remove and replace without disturbing other sections..
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thanks i figured as much but always good to make sure before diving in, lol
but thanks! ill be doing this sometime soon, probably tomorrow, i would have done it today but i have a new toy to play with (Archos 7 v1). i put CM7 on it, but it runs kinda slow (not a shock considering its only 600 mhz processor lol
i just need a good fast ROM for it ^^

I've spilt water over my phone. Need help.

As the title says, I spilled water over my phone whilst trying to put on a screen protector. The water didn't get into the back of the phone, just where the screen is. I put it in a bag of rice overnight (and most of yesterday afternoon), but there are still spots on the screen (see attachment). After a quick test, everything seems to work except the trackball click. So I now have several questions:
- What seems to be the problem specifically (there's water damage obviously, but specifically where)?
- Is it more cost-efficient to fix it myself or take it to a shop?
- If I am to fix it myself, are there guides I can follow and are there special tools I need?
Thank you for your help!

The best you should have done was to take out the battery and and probably get it open so the water evaporates......putting it in a rice bag was not the best idea should have keept it somewhere dry with lots of air blowing over so as to take out the water vapour which would build up as the phone warms up your rice bag method has only locked up water vapour in your device and if that comes into contact with any component that could be serious damage get a tech guy to open it up and let all the water dry up keep in mind that if its not open vapour will just lock up an make your screen look bad:banghead:
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For you track that could be the end of it water I the worst thing that you keep near you phone a drop on you CPU RAM or any vital thing and you done DON'T TRY FIXING IT ON YOUR OWN ANY PHONE GUY WILL NOT YOU EXCEPT YOU ARE ONE if your warranty is still somewhere it might help but most warranties don't cover damage caused by you the user..... If you try the above and its still the same then a service center is the next op
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strip419 said:
The best you should have done was to take out the battery and and probably get it open so the water evaporates......putting it in a rice bag was not the best idea should have keept it somewhere dry with lots of air blowing over so as to take out the water vapour which would build up as the phone warms up your rice bag method has only locked up water vapour in your device and if that comes into contact with any component that could be serious damage get a tech guy to open it up and let all the water dry up keep in mind that if its not open vapour will just lock up an make your screen look bad:banghead:
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For you track that could be the end of it water I the worst thing that you keep near you phone a drop on you CPU RAM or any vital thing and you done DON'T TRY FIXING IT ON YOUR OWN ANY PHONE GUY WILL NOT YOU EXCEPT YOU ARE ONE if your warranty is still somewhere it might help but most warranties don't cover damage caused by you the user..... If you try the above and its still the same then a service center is the next op
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Thanks for the response. I wasn't aware that the rice bag method isn't for all water-related incidents. So the best thing to do right now is to open it up. Does that mean open it to the internals or just take the battery out and blow a fan over the phone? I hope nothing other than the trackball is affected. I can live without the trackball clicking.

Your phone may still die, I had a water damaged desire z, I dropped in in the toilet, thought I was lucky as I had already flushed lol. After drying for a few days (I unfortunately, like you, left the battery in) I booted it and found the flash was acting crazy. By avoiding using it I thought I was ok, but a day later the flash had formed a short circuit rendering the phone useless, the power button rather than booting the device simply made the flash blink like the cm7 strobe effect. Tried further drying by disassembling. Nothing. Binned. Died a little inside. Bought a galaxy mini. Hated it. Sold galaxy mini and now using Motorola defy, got it cos its water resistant XD, its an OK replacement but I miss my z's better touchscreen, and the keyboard rocked, alas that's why they're so unresistant to water though. Hope yours survives, as the trackball is pretty isolated even if it is shorted it might not do much damage hopefully (flash is near camera, power button and proximity which all lead to the motherboard!) let me know how it goes, good luck!

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Your phone may still die, I had a water damaged desire z, I dropped in in the toilet, thought I was lucky as I had already flushed lol. After drying for a few days (I unfortunately, like you, left the battery in) I booted it and found the flash was acting crazy. By avoiding using it I thought I was ok, but a day later the flash had formed a short circuit rendering the phone useless, the power button rather than booting the device simply made the flash blink like the cm7 strobe effect. Tried further drying by disassembling. Nothing. Binned. Died a little inside. Bought a galaxy mini. Hated it. Sold galaxy mini and now using Motorola defy, got it cos its water resistant XD, its an OK replacement but I miss my z's better touchscreen, and the keyboard rocked, alas that's why they're so unresistant to water though. Hope yours survives, as the trackball is pretty isolated even if it is shorted it might not do much damage hopefully (flash is near camera, power button and proximity which all lead to the motherboard!) let me know how it goes, good luck!
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My sympathies. =( I hope I don't have to replace my phone too.

wcstick said:
My sympathies. =( I hope I don't have to replace my phone too.
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Just do not put battery in until its as dry as possible and you may be lucky, I soaked the galaxy mini too washing dishes but that one was fine once I dried it, your trackball may start working again if youre patient
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Oh and I see your earlier question, yes take internals out if possible but carefully to avoid damage, even removing the back to expose the motherboard would be helpful if you don't feel comfortable pulling parts out

Yes all all covers should be out atleast the system board should be as dry as possible cos that's were the trouble is,the track pad uses some kind of optic stuf and could be changed if its removable. If its attached to the system board don't try cos you might brick your phone if your touch screen is good then there should not be a problem, for me I hardly use my track pad. As for it working again I can't assure you of that but open it up it shud work
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@non4 said:
Oh and I see your earlier question, yes take internals out if possible but carefully to avoid damage, even removing the back to expose the motherboard would be helpful if you don't feel comfortable pulling parts out
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Turns out, I don't have the tools to open it up. I suppose there's no avoiding taking it to a shop to have it fixed.

DON'T FORGET TO CONTACT A GOOD GUY IF YOU ARE NOT SURE OF OPENING IT YOURSELF G2 is a good phone it should be able to survive except you made it swim
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HIT THANKS PLSSS SMH.... AM SOOOOOO "THANKS DRY"
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strip419 said:
DON'T FORGET TO CONTACT A GOOD GUY IF YOU ARE NOT SURE OF OPENING IT YOURSELF G2 is a good phone it should be able to survive except you made it swim
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HIT THANKS PLSSS SMH.... AM SOOOOOO "THANKS DRY"
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Well, I didn't douse it in water. I just spilled water on top of the screen as I was applying a screen protector. If anything, it's just the screen part that's wet, not the other half of the device. Hopefully it won't be an expensive fix either. Anyway, thank you for your help! =)

Good luck dude but incase it dies I can sell you mine :beer::thumbup:
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rice works pretty well pulling out moisture, opening you phone is quite easy if you slightly mechanicaly inclined. you will need a small pry tool (guitar pick should work) and a t5 torx bit. that will get your back case off. there are about a dozen small phillips screws to remove the motherboard and then a few more to get to the digitizer. looks as if the water either seeped in through the front speaker or around the edges of the screen meaning the glue has gone bad.
if your able to fully dry your phone great, but be carefull any moisture left can turn to corrosion quickly.
there is a small ribbon cable that connects your softbutton pad and track to the rest of the phone, if the soft buttons still work but not the track this is most likely what needs to be fixed
if the screen seems unresponsive then you will need to replace the digitzer
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I dropped this g2 in the toilet a long time ago. Left in rice for a week and dried completely. Used for a week after that and impurities on the board would not let the phone boot up past bootloader and then it'll shut down. I opened it up and using 99% alcohol and a toothbrush cleaned the motherboard. The phone has worked perfectly ever since. The moisture in the screen eventually goes away after a few weeks. In my case i only have a faint line noticeable from certain angles. You can fix it by simply replacing the LCD.
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I would have taken apart my phone if I had a t5 torx bit. Inconveniently, the smallest I have is a t7. I'm going to take it to a repair place tomorrow and see what's gone bad. I'd rather pay the price for repair now than pay for a new phone.

Camera glass cracked!

I picked up my M8 last Friday at my local T-Mobile store, and put it in a new OtterBox case as soon as I got in the car. During the past week it has never left its case and has been sitting on my desk or in my pocket. I have never dropped it, set it down too hard, or even looked at it the wrong way. This morning I turned it over and found the glass on the camera has cracked!
I see that this was an issue with the M7, and I'm hoping it is not starting over again with this one. I found this thread on Reddit with a similar situation: http://www.reddit.com/r/htcone/comments/22z4dk/m8_rear_camera_glass_cracked_already/
Anybody else have this issue or any suggestions on what I can do to fix/get it fixed/get it replaced?

Somebody on Reddit also had this issue. I'm kind of worried about getting mine if this happens.
http://www.reddit.com/r/htcone/comments/22z4dk/m8_rear_camera_glass_cracked_already/

That sucks.. It was an issue with the m7 as well. And the lens didn't really change.
My release day m7 still doesn't have a single mark on it. But a couple co-workers fell victim to the broken lens.
As a side note, not sure if it will help or not. But the Nillkin tempered glass screen protector on amazon, comes with glass protectors for the lenses on the back.
Edit: also.. if they hassle you to hard on making you pay for replacements.. You can actually buy the entire rear housing for 49 bucks. Which has the camera lenses on it. I'm assuming they're just using a 3m double sided tape to hold them on, so you could probably push them out from behind on the housing. And dig and pop out your cracked one, and just restick.
http://www.etradesupply.com/htc-one-rear-housing-back-cover-22030.html

I wonder if I just pop out the glass entirely. Why need lens at all? All it does is protect the camera no?

T-Mobile Chat
I just finished a chat with a T-Mobile support rep and they told me to bring my phone in to a store so they can inspect it and determine my options.
According to the rep "There seems to be an issue with the camera and it makes a popping or crackling sound, this could cause your camera to crack." One of the first things they asked me was if I could hear any sounds when trying to take a picture.
I haven't read anything about these sounds elsewhere, but it sounds like something either HTC is aware of or at least just T-Mobile. I have been praising this phone to everyone I know, but am kind of unsure about the build quality now.

Yeah, looks like you must have looked at it the wrong way.
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Wonder if this qualifies for HTC Advantage? Lol
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Tikerz said:
Yeah, looks like you must have looked at it the wrong way.
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Wonder if this qualifies for HTC Advantage? Lol
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LOL... I expected the front-facing camera to break from me looking at it - not the rear one!
It is ridiculous that I can bash my screen right now and they will replace it for free. This tiny piece of glass that cracked on its own...too bad. HTC Advantage! :highfive:

Figured I"d mention that this just happened to me also.
I noticed that the pictures I was snapping this weekend were blurry and when I checked out the screen, crack
I keep the phone in an Otterbox too.
We'll see what HTC says

Hi Yakayu,
Was wondering if you managed to fix your problem?
I'm in a similar boat and looking to get the whole rear housing replaced as well and hoping they can fix my camera issues there too
as well as a cracked screen the right side of the camera wont focus and is blurry :/

"Let it settle" or botched Screen Protector Installation?

Just came back from Best Buy where i like to get my screen protectors installed. I like paying for it to be done because of their 30 day window of infinite retrys lol. Thing is, ive never had to take it back to get it redone because every single time i leave the store with them flawless. No bubbles to let 'settle' or any runs to let 'settle'. This time though, im not so happy with the initial product.
He claimed that this version of Invisashield is a gel application different than the usual liquid application I'm used to, and claims its prone to initial settle bubbles and runs. I usually get them done at the mobile section of Best Buy, but they were swamped so i went to geek squad to have it done. Was this a mistake? Do you guys think this will settle in a day or so? I have no problem going back and getting it redone, i just don't want to hurt the guys feelings. I wanted to show it to friends tomorrow at work, but with a gnarly screen protector, im reluctant.
I attached some picutres taking from my OLD Note 4

Why put a screen cover on Gorilla Glass?

I work in the Geek Squad at best buy, just wait 48 hrs,you have to wait that long before you can tell if its a real bubble or liquid that has not dried. If it still has those bubbles in your pictures after 48 hrs make them do it again if you paid for the install. I dont think all of those in your pictures are going to go away, but we cant exchange and reapply until 48 hrs( at least thats the way its supposed to be).
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dc/dc said:
Why put a screen cover on Gorilla Glass?
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Why not? its still glass, can still be scratched. Its not indestructible just because its Gorilla glass. I can't tell you how many phones i sent off for screen damage repairs when we used to handle that stuff in store.

willjohnson said:
I work in the Geek Squad at best buy, just wait 48 hrs,you have to wait that long before you can tell if its a real bubble or liquid that has not dried. If it still has those bubbles in your pictures after 48 hrs make them do it again if you paid for the install. I dont think all of those in your pictures are going to go away, but we cant exchange and reapply until 48 hrs( at least thats the way its supposed to be).
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Why not? its still glass, can still be scratched. Its not indestructible just because its Gorilla glass. I can't tell you how many phones i sent off for screen damage repairs when we used to handle that stuff in store.
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thanks for the reply. after further inspection, i noticed a piece of dust under the protector by the home button. it wasnt causing a bubble, but the fact that it was there means there wasnt enough care put into the installation.
took it back and waited in line this time for someone from mobile dept. I luckily got help from the same girl who did my note 4. she is very good and isnt afraid to rip off the protector is she isnt happy with it. Needless to say it looks much better, and what bubbles are there look different then the other ones. these ones i feel WILL settle.

Trev420 said:
thanks for the reply. after further inspection, i noticed a piece of dust under the protector by the home button. it wasnt causing a bubble, but the fact that it was there means there wasnt enough care put into the installation.
took it back and waited in line this time for someone from mobile dept. I luckily got help from the same girl who did my note 4. she is very good and isnt afraid to rip off the protector is she isnt happy with it. Needless to say it looks much better, and what bubbles are there look different then the other ones. these ones i feel WILL settle.
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No doubt, thats what i couldnt tell in the pics, if it was dust or just air, air you can fix, dust its a goner

Repair Digitalizer and Earpiece

I was wondering if anyone here had repaired the digitizer or the earpiece and discovered they just needed to detach and reattach the original parts to make them work.

Yes
I'm really sorry about resurrecting this really old thread, but I have done this my self.
Refer to the teardown guide on iFixit.com
The atrix 4g is actually not to painful to teardown and put back together without destroying it. This is actually why I chose this smartphone over all of the new smartphones out there. It's cheap used on eBay, and it still works great. It also has great root support here on xda.
MY ADVICE THAT IF YOU WANT TO REPLACE THE DIGITIZER:
Be very careful of the tiny cable at the top of the digitizer (towards the earpiece of the phone). If you order a replacement online, be sure NOT to bend that cable at all until you are putting it into your phone. When you do have to bend the cable into place in the chassis, do so VERY gently. I have ruined many digitizers doing this very haphazardly.
It is also helpful to take the LCD out of the chassis. In fact, take everything out of the chassis until just the plastic frame is left. Then, you can very carefully place the digitizer and reassemble.
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ALinkToTao said:
[The Atrix4g] It's cheap used on eBay, and it still works great. .
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It works great ONLY if you use the right ROM for your needs. As it is stock, it is worthless. But Neutrino ROM is by far my favorite. But that's my personal preference.