Is Handcent SMS Secure? - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II

Has anyone here who uses Handcent (or considered it) read the following:
http://infolookup.securegossip.com/2011/12/18/handcent-sms-logs-all-your-send-messages/
I don't like the fact that you have to log-in to gain access to some of the features, but I also don't like GoSMS, so options are limited here.

I've used Handcent for years and haven't seen any issues with it.
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SComp23 said:
Has anyone here who uses Handcent (or considered it) read the following:
http://infolookup.securegossip.com/2011/12/18/handcent-sms-logs-all-your-send-messages/
I don't like the fact that you have to log-in to gain access to some of the features, but I also don't like GoSMS, so options are limited here.
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I used HC for sometime... about a year or so but became a little bit bloated for the 'additional features'. the article does raise some privacy concerns: if the text was deleted, why would HC keep an UNENCRYPTED DB for it? I am not really sure if the stock sms app does the same thing (as in keep an unencrypted DB for the text messages, I would not be surprised if it did) but the point remains: once the text is deleted it should be gone... forever, not stored in some internal DB where the app itself does not make a reference of it (as in being 'useful' to the owner to retrieve accidentally deleted messages).
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I've used Handcent for years and haven't seen any issues with it.
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Same, but that article does raise some issues.

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HTC DESIRE SMS simple texts ?

I dislike the SMS and Hancent text programmes.
I migrated from a Nokia E71 and prefer the simple SMS format
PLEASE PLEASE help as all I want is an app that will work and give me simple texts with an INBOX DRAFT SENT OUTBOX
can someone please help?
I cant think of any reason you want to do that - non-threaded convos were one of the bigger reasons I got rid of my E71
But to answer your question, I have np idea if such sms replacer app exists :-[
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I cant think of any reason you want to do that - non-threaded convos were one of the bigger reasons I got rid of my E71
But to answer your question, I have np idea if such sms replacer app exists :-[
Definitely agree, wen I first saw the threaded verson I thought wtf is this n how do I turn it off!! But within a day of using it, I realised its the best improvement to sms that I've seen in a LONG time. Stick with it and you'll see what I mean.
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Thanks for that but I also had an Iphone which I hated.
I am familiar with 'conversations' but whatever anyone else thinks I prefer the old system and find the thread way confusing and annoying!
I want a simple INBOX SENT OUTBOX
I may have a 2 week old Desire for sale if not
zalanz said:
Thanks for that but I also had an Iphone which I hated.
I am familiar with 'conversations' but whatever anyone else thinks I prefer the old system and find the thread way confusing and annoying!
I want a simple INBOX SENT OUTBOX
I may have a 2 week old Desire for sale if not
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lol your not serious about selling your desire just because it has as default the conversation sms style?
look in the market maybe theres something for you, if not then get used to it cuz it really isnt that hard and your probably 1 out of 100+ that doesnt like this style, and to be honest most of the phones these days have it that way anyway so might be a bit tough for you to replace the functionality of a desire with a different phone that has the 'old' sms style
btw. instead of having the simple INBOX SENT OUTBOX u got even simpler all in one. theres no need for outbox anyway
Wow... I can't believe that some people don't like conversation view. It saves so much time compared with flicking between the message I'm writing and the one I'm replying to!
zalanz said:
I dislike the SMS and Hancent text programmes.
I migrated from a Nokia E71 and prefer the simple SMS format
PLEASE PLEASE help as all I want is an app that will work and give me simple texts with an INBOX DRAFT SENT OUTBOX
can someone please help?
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You're not the only one. I also hated conversation view when I got my Hero, but got used to it eventually. I might look at creating an app to solve this problem (simple mind you, like an SMS reader rather than AIO)
I can understand you because when I receive sms from my girlfriend I prefer having an isolated message than a thread thats looks more like a chat ^^ search on the market for sms manager its a freeware
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You're not the only one. I also hated conversation view when I got my Hero, but got used to it eventually. I might look at creating an app to solve this problem (simple mind you, like an SMS reader rather than AIO)
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What I find annoying is the small space allocated to my text message as I'm entering it. Why not devote half a screen to it so I can see my whole message as I type it? Sometimes I type a long sentence and the start has scrolled off, so i only notice mistakes after i've sent them.
TheAshMan said:
You're not the only one. I also hated conversation view when I got my Hero, but got used to it eventually. I might look at creating an app to solve this problem (simple mind you, like an SMS reader rather than AIO)
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I hope you will create an app?
The more & more I use texts the more & more I am tempted to switch back to my Nokia E71
OK instead of people telling this guy he's crazy for not loving it let's attempt to be more helpful in a practical sense.
What is it in particular you find confusing about a threaded conversation? Give me an example of a use case where having your messages organised in this way is less than suitable. Maybe if we clear up the confusion you'll find it easier.
zalanz said:
I hope you will create an app?
The more & more I use texts the more & more I am tempted to switch back to my Nokia E71
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well if you do go back to the E71 dont ever upgrade your phone because as far as i know all phones are using this new conversation style sms system now even the new nokias so i would try and get used to it if i were you.

Facebook app update!

Finally, our Facebook looks like the iPhone one (aka way more functional). I love the new layout, and it's working well for me so far!
Post any feedback on the changes if you have any!
I'm just happy I can comment on notifications again lol
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It doesn't suck anymore. The app is both more practical and functional. Love it!
It's about time
It seems to have killed my push notifications [via the blackberry method]
These guys really seem incapable of doing anything right.
Push notifications should be the easiest thing in the world to have working.
I had to turn message notifications off, because with the update it would keep renotifying me about the same message, over & over & over...
abodamer said:
I had to turn message notifications off, because with the update it would keep renotifying me about the same message, over & over & over...
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It's always done that for me. I get about 100 notifications from FB a day telling me I have "x" many messages... just the same ones, nothing new.
looks exactly like the mobile website (which is what i always used). nothing different. fail IMO
awesomeindeed said:
It's always done that for me. I get about 100 notifications from FB a day telling me I have "x" many messages... just the same ones, nothing new.
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I respectfully disagree. The app was acting correctly for me until this update. Now like you said, I keep getting message notifications for the same ones over and over again.
This is another example of my Snowflake Theory of Epic Touch 4G Phones. No two are exactly alike.
Why use the Mobil app when the Mobil site works fine and sends text notifications .I just sync contacts with social hub to get contact pictures since I can't delete it
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working great so far. I like it.
ayman86 said:
looks exactly like the mobile website (which is what i always used). nothing different. fail IMO
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Exactly why I don't use the app.
phatmanxxl said:
Exactly why I don't use the app.
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I like having the app because I can upload pics easily, but I agree the website is usually better. I've been using the app today and it really is much better, at least for me.
I'm not a heavy FB user so maybe that's hy I'm not seeing the issues
Personally, I'm a Friendcaster fan. I gave up on the official app a couple months ago.
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I'm a photographer so I love that the new update loads pix faster so I can show off my work faster, great picture quality too. awesome for uploads, no difference in quality uploaded mobile or desktop version.
Yes it makes the same appearance as mobile which is great. Ads just a pinch more functionality.
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I did the same. You won't be disappointed by this update.
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Personally, I'm a Friendcaster fan. I gave up on the official app a couple months ago.
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Remember to download the "permissions denied" app from Stephen (STERICSON) to restrict the facebook app permissions from:
YOUR MESSAGES
EDIT SMS OR MMS
Allows application to write to SMS messages stored on your device or SIM card. Malicious applications may delete your messages.
RECEIVE SMS
Allows application to receive and process SMS messages. Malicious applications may monitor your messages or delete them without showing them to you.
READ SMS OR MMS
Allows application to read SMS messages stored on your device or SIM card. Malicious applications may read your confidential messages.
SEND SMS MESSAGES
Allows application to send SMS messages. Malicious applications may cost you money by sending messages without your confirmation.
These permissions serve NO PURPOSE toward the functionality of the app!
It's even better than ios version... The android version can tag someone using @ in conversation.. The ios one still couldn't do that the last time i check...
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With the old Facebook I can post pictures to specific albums....with this new one I can't...and that sucks!!
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Henri Blanche said:
I respectfully disagree. The app was acting correctly for me until this update. Now like you said, I keep getting message notifications for the same ones over and over again.
This is another example of my Snowflake Theory of Epic Touch 4G Phones. No two are exactly alike.
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I have never even once had the FB app notifications correctly notify me of things. And I have used it on the N1, Hero, Evo 4G, Evo 3D, NS4G, GSII... it has always been that way in my experience.
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I like the latest update, however, you are still UNABLE to like comments that are made on a photo or even UNABLE to view who likes a photo that you were tagged in!! Anybody else out there realize this as well?

How to overcome contacts memory limitation?

I am forced to keep off contacta synchronization for my professional networks LinkedIn, Google and Twitter. If I turn it on my Note 2 runs out of memory available for contacts after synchronizing about 17k of the contacts. LinkedIn 24k contacts, Google 20k contacts and Twitter 50k followers.
Please help to overcome this incredibly painful experience so I can synchronize all of the above.
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Get rid of the ones you don't use. Which I'd guess is 98% of them.
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bootloopz said:
Get rid of the ones you don't use. Which I'd guess is 98% of them.
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Your guess is wrong, I use all of them. As an international contractor I advise to all of them my availability and new contract offers start to pour in. You never know where the next opportunity lies. I f you can help its appreciated, if not useless comments are just that useless.
Well why would you need 50K twitter followers in your phone when there on twitter following you...
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Yes you are right, Twitter doesn't really matter. I do though need the LinkedIn and the Facebook ones. If I can find a solution for those to synchronize, it will also work for 50k from Twitter regardless if I need it or not.
The point is that I need to be able to bring in a lot more contacts and asociated data than the Note can handle as per stock setup.
The question is HOW? Please let me know if you are aware how it can be done!
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Hard to believe that Im the only note user that needs to solve this high number of contacts storage issue.
Someone must have already tried to find a soltion for this.
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It's hard to believe that you're the only Note 2 user here who has hundreds of thousands of contacts? Lol
CyD13 said:
It's hard to believe that you're the only Note 2 user here who has hundreds of thousands of contacts? Lol
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I was going to say the same thing lol.
Wouldn't it be easier to just manage those contacts in their respective apps?
I don't see the benefit of having > 100, 000 contacts in your phonebook :s
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LinkedIn is my primary interest. The web interface as well as various LI apps is hopeless for managing 20k contacts since there isnt almost any batch processing functionality. I used to export my LI contacts and import them into Outlook but due to LI lacking the needed processing power that stopped working sometime after I reached 10k connections.
Android sync works well enough except for the memory limitation. At the moment its the only place I know where I can have my contacts in a fully managable database.
I am open to other suggestions but this being a Note forum i hoped to find a Note solution here.
I am a contractor. If I can make this sync/memory work I again have the capability to let all my connections know when I complete my last contract and am available for the next one.
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I am still hopeing somebody knows how to resolve this problem. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
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Hello sir
well, I can assure you that even if you manage to sync all those contacts to your Note phone book, the phone wont be able to handle this huge number ! this why the limitation is there from the first place, and this is what apple is doing to keep their Iphones runs smoother than androids, they put limitations on everything, from pictures format and size to video type and resolution, etc...
the final word is "it will just ruin the user experience" something Samsung don't want it for their beloved customers
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LinkedIn is my primary interest.
I am a contractor. If I can make this sync/memory work I again have the capability to let all my connections know when I complete my last contract and am available for the next one.
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I know this isn't going to help you with regards the storage limitation......but if LinkedIn is your primary interest then surely the obvious way to let all your connections know when your last contract is complete and therefore available for the next one is to manually update LinkedIn when that time comes. It keeps your phone free of 'clutter' yet surely you're achieving the same result without the limitation and associated problems. When you update your LinkedIn status don't all your contacts receive a notification?
I might be wrong but it doesn't sound like you need the 1000's of LinkedIn contacts on your phone but all of them need 'you'.......to me it sounds like the equivalent of storing a worldwide phonebook on your mobile, just so they can give you a call (so that's a process which isn't actually required) If your details are held in a central resource then you don't need to store everyone else's?
Feel free to shoot me down or completely ignore.
So, assuming you can get all 24-100k contacts into your Note2 Contacts app, what's the intended use-case? What action within the contacts app do you expect to perform to "let everyone know you're available for work"? I'm looking at my couple of hundred contacts (which, in itself, can be a royal pain to manage) and I'm not sure I'd want to even try to do what I do with the Note2 over ten times as many, let alone 1-500 times.
You are all right from contacts app perspective. There is no easy way to manage from there. The reason for wanting to sync to my Note is the fact that android/contacts app brings all my social/professional networks contact details into a single database. It automatically combines a significant % of the duplicate contacts into one contact. To me this is the only known way of achieving a single database with details from various sources.
Unavoidably when I try to work on the Note with a database of this size the delay in displaying the results is a bit annoying but I can live with that just to get the result.
The positive is that from there the contacts are available to other applications which can be used for mailings or messaging. At this moment the various android apps batch processing capability is still limiting but it does have the export functionality enabling me to export this database to other apps on my PC.
Just as most of your comments, I would prefer to do all this on my PC but I have yet to find a desktop application that can build a unique and transportable database from all these networks.
But judging from the comments seems either the memory issue is not solvable or I should have explained the reasons in more detail earlier for people to be willing to help or maybe I am just uninformed about some PC app that can do this as well.
I already use the update feature on LinkedIn and other similar functionalities on my other networks but it is not even remotely as effective as sending a direct message to my connections. People don't stay glued to the screen to see a random update that disappears of their update queue within a few minutes of getting posted.
I dont want to shoot anybody down but feel free to shoot me down if you know an easier way of achieving the desired result.
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Gmail
Have you tried importing all of your contacts into your gmail and letting that sync to the phone?
MutantWizard said:
You are all right from contacts app perspective. There is no easy way to manage from there. The reason for wanting to sync to my Note is the fact that android/contacts app brings all my social/professional networks contact details into a single database. It automatically combines a significant % of the duplicate contacts into one contact. To me this is the only known way of achieving a single database with details from various sources.
Unavoidably when I try to work on the Note with a database of this size the delay in displaying the results is a bit annoying but I can live with that just to get the result.
The positive is that from there the contacts are available to other applications which can be used for mailings or messaging. At this moment the various android apps batch processing capability is still limiting but it does have the export functionality enabling me to export this database to other apps on my PC.
Just as most of your comments, I would prefer to do all this on my PC but I have yet to find a desktop application that can build a unique and transportable database from all these networks.
But judging from the comments seems either the memory issue is not solvable or I should have explained the reasons in more detail earlier for people to be willing to help or maybe I am just uninformed about some PC app that can do this as well.
I already use the update feature on LinkedIn and other similar functionalities on my other networks but it is not even remotely as effective as sending a direct message to my connections. People don't stay glued to the screen to see a random update that disappears of their update queue within a few minutes of getting posted.
I dont want to shoot anybody down but feel free to shoot me down if you know an easier way of achieving the desired result.
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There isnt a working facility that is able to export LI connections if you have more than 10-11k connections so i dont have a file I could import into a Gmail account.
It still remains a question of sufficient memory to sync into android.
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you should talk to one of the developers to see if there is some way to have contacts stored on the microsd card as opposed to the phone...if your contacts fill up a 64gig card then you really need to consider hiring a secretary...lol
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you should talk to one of the developers to see if there is some way to have contacts stored on the microsd card as opposed to the phone...if your contacts fill up a 64gig card then you really need to consider hiring a secretary...lol
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lol already have a "secretary" 2-3 times per week, among other stuff doing some of the LI tasks.
I hoped somebody who already did some development on this or has an idea how to achieve it would read this thread and coment but point taken, might post the question in the development forum.
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When this dude says he is a 'contractor' I hope he aint one of the contractors that eliminates people, lol.
Heres me thinking 2 or 300 connections on LinkedIn was a lot.... I had best get adding some more!
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Tomo1971 said:
When this dude says he is a 'contractor' I hope he aint one of the contractors that eliminates people, lol.
Heres me thinking 2 or 300 connections on LinkedIn was a lot.... I had best get adding some more!
S.
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HITMAN ABSOLUTION is coming out next week...!!! maybe this guy is agent 47...lol
MutantWizard said:
lol already have a "secretary" 2-3 times per week, among other stuff doing some of the LI tasks.
I hoped somebody who already did some development on this or has an idea how to achieve it would read this thread and coment but point taken, might post the question in the development forum.
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a couple things for ya...the note II come with a 16 gig internal micro sd card however it can support a 64 gig one (like the korean variant note II has). Buy a 64gig microsd card, take it to a place that repairs broken smart phones and have them swap the cards for ya...
I saw a vid on YouTube of a guy disassembling the note II and the card isnt hard to get to at all... hope that helps...
lastly, I saw this app in the playstore... http://goo.gl/5xbsC it may do what you're requesting...

[Q] Security of data with SMS apps

What do people think about using SMS apps that replace the stock app ? I tried Handcent and GoSMS and was concerned about the securtity of my message and where they are going - and then I read this article - http://webdiary.com/2011/09/25/gosmspro/
On top of that while scrolling through screens in GoSMS I saw a screen with a description in somewhat broken English - probably coded by a developer who is not a non-native English speaker....
All in all - I m no longer using these apps.
Does anyone else have an opinion ? Is there a way to customize the JB stock SMS app ?
Thanks
barlie said:
What do people think about using SMS apps that replace the stock app ? I tried Handcent and GoSMS and was concerned about the securtity of my message and where they are going - and then I read this article - http://webdiary.com/2011/09/25/gosmspro/
On top of that while scrolling through screens in GoSMS I saw a screen with a description in somewhat broken English - probably coded by a developer who is not a non-native English speaker....
All in all - I m no longer using these apps.
Does anyone else have an opinion ? Is there a way to customize the JB stock SMS app ?
Thanks
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You can change the balloon colour and wallpaper in the stock SMS app. I tried GoSMS and Handcent as well but ended up uninstalling and going back to the simplicity of the stock SMS app.
I don't need the group chat feature of the 3rd party apps since my friends and I use WhatsApp for that but I do miss the additional smilies and emoji of the other ones.
There are known security concerns with GO SMS and all go apps in general. I have done indeepth logcats with handcent and found nothing out of the ordinary with them. With GO SMS they seem to know you are a go user even if you change phones and never reinstall the app on the new phone.
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Hangouts 2.0

I know this is the wrong thread but I thought more peole would see it here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxI1YpjkbX0ONnlLbjc0bzJjZ1k/edit?usp=sharing
SMS feature is here
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Its working for me... does it not seem a bit clumsy in its implementation? You've got to switch back and forth between sms/hangouts. Two separate conversations. Not sure what I was expecting... but I dont think this was quite it.
I was reading that 4.4 would have both SMS and MMS in hangouts.
It's working for me very well. But still has some catching up to do even with the stock Galaxy s3 messaging app. Hangouts needs to be able to attach contacts or calendar or even a voice recording.
nearlydigital said:
Its working for me... does it not seem a bit clumsy in its implementation? You've got to switch back and forth between sms/hangouts. Two separate conversations. Not sure what I was expecting... but I dont think this was quite it.
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What do you mean?
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One contact = two conversations. One for sms messages, one for hangouts messages
I'm sorry to post a full newbie post here regarding this but I'm trying to settle some debate and confusion online about Hangouts 2.0
Basically has google "done it right" this time and copied iMessage? (No, I'm not an Apple fanboy)
The advantage of iMessage is that it defaults to data when possible, fallsback to SMS when it has to.
It's also completely seamless, this is handled for you - no need to manually change from data to SMS mode or anything.
2 more points:
iMessage allows you to SMS a "new" phone number for someone you've never encountered before, iMessage detects the phone number is "iMessage-able" and simply sends via data, no kind of handshake / friendship needs to be setup
and finally
There's no "online" status required of iMessage, you need not "log in" or always be set to online, it's an SMS app natively but you can communicate with people over data without them knowing you're necessarily "online"
The advantages as follows.
Cheapest possible was of conversing with friends (assuming your SMS plan is NOT unlimited, I'm in a country where it's pricey)
Privacy / "aloofness" - the lack of an online / offline requirement allows you to ignore a message and respond at your leisure, be it 5 minutes, 5 hours or 5 days. If someone however sees a green O next to your name with Hangouts, the social pressure / obligation to reply is there, you can't just relax if that makes sense (I guess this is an introvert feature)
Sorry for the long post but I'm hearing conflicting reports online that google STILL screwed it up - but that's from people who have obtained the Hangouts 2.0 APK file and do NOT have 4.4 KitKat, rumour has it that's required for the full backend SMS "engine" update to work like iMessage?
Thanks all, really appreciate your time.
EDIT: This also covers what I'm trying to clarify.
http://ausdroid.net/2013/11/01/down...mpaign=download-hangouts-with-sms-integration
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I've update to 2.0 and moved the appropriate .so file into system/lib and my videochat is still not working anybody have a solution?
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