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Difference between CM6 and openDesire/DeFrost?

Am I correct in my understanding that OpenDesire (and DeFrost) just more fleshed out versions of CM6 (nightlies)? It seems that they share most of the same features, except that some things like apps2sd is not yet well supported in CM6...

kolaf said:
Am I correct in my understanding that OpenDesire (and DeFrost) just more fleshed out versions of CM6 (nightlies)? It seems that they share most of the same features, except that some things like apps2sd is not yet well supported in CM6...
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cm6 is the origin. od and df are both copies (with minal changes) of cm6. i've tested them all in many versions. i can say that cm6 is the best in all categories (speed, battery, oj-bug [never had that with cm6]).
but i think this thread should be closed. there are already two other threads about that question....aaaand test it yourseld ;-)

My opinion: CM ftw!
And now let the flame wars begin.

beidl said:
My opinion: CM ftw!
And now let the flame wars begin.
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Such childish comment.
If you want to compare these 3 roms I suggest you try them out yourselves and form your own conclusion.

Thanks for your answers. The reason for my question was that I am getting a bit tired of switching between different releases, and would like to find one release that satisfies my requirements, sees active development, and works. I'm currently using OpenDesire, and based on the responses I guess there's really no reason to switch from one to the other as they are basically the same. The main motivation for trying OpenDesire above CM 6 was that apps2sd comes preconfigured, i.e. there is less hassle setting it up.
Also, seeing as they are quite similar, there will probably be little help in switching from one to the other to solve problems such as dying OJ, intermittent unresponsive screen, and others.

i've been using defrost since 0.4 or something like that richardtrip always took good care of his users and always tries his best to give us a good, fast and stable rom. and please stop these ****ty threads all ready they suck and serve no purpose except flaming and *****ing.
ppl these roms are all open source use the one you like, stick with it if you are happy if not switch stop making these threads!

ivan_white said:
.....please stop these ****ty threads all ready they suck and serve no purpose except flaming and *****ing.
ppl these roms are all open source use the one you like, stick with it if you are happy if not switch stop making these threads!
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ivan_white said:
ppl these roms are all open source use the one you like, stick with it if you are happy if not switch stop making these threads!
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To be fair, it served my need, but I can see that it is quickly degenerating with your complaints.

look we all need to understand one thing,
Take you phone into your hand, turn it around,
now start reading
htc
WITH HTC SENSE
so we all bought phones from HTC, not XDA, not richardtrip, kali, adamg or <enter name of dev>, it's pure luck that somebody somewhere decided to invest his spare time, resources and GOOD WILL to make something for us users. It's not a right to use custom ROMs, it's a privilege and a damed big one!
We all need to tone down with *****ing and nagging people who do this just for us, not for HTC, not for google and they aren't employed by us to produce thes ROMs. Can you even begin to understand how many ppl at google and HTC worked on the original ROM? Hundreds. How many beta testers tested releases that come every few months? Possibly a few hundred maybe even thousands initially for google and still they miss a bug or even 10s of bugs. Now there are a few good people here who use their knowledge and time to give us better roms, They don't have resources of big companies like Google and HTC and yet they make great roms for us, for free.
So please people stop making threads about rom vs rom, stop *****ing who stole what from who, this all is an open source community and everyone here needs to understand that anyone can take their work and change it so it fits their needs better. Devs are good people and they try their best to give us something better every day, we as users can choose our flavors just like ice cream, or frozen yogurt for that matter, you don't go to the people who made your ice cream when you don't like it, you just get another flavor based on what you can learn from the people who like that other flavor.
Let me sum it up a bit,
if you are using CM, then go to the CM thread and ask questions there,
let me give you and example,
"how is your battery on the latest build?"
if you want to know something about battery life on DeFrost you go to the Defrost thread and first search a little bit, than if you can't find the answer post
"am using CM and get 34 hours from my battery, do you get more on DeFrost and does DeFrost support <insert the name of what you need>" and than wait for an answer,
making a new thread like this isn't going to help you or anybody else for that matter. it's just going to start flame wars from fan-boys of each rom and then people start throwing stupid accusations like "this is just a copy of that" with no evidence what so ever and then the whole community suffers cos you had to open another thread instead of looking into threads that already exist.

ivan_white said:
look we all need to understand one thing,
Take you phone into your hand, turn it around,
now start reading
htc
WITH HTC SENSE
so we all bought phones from HTC, not XDA, not richardtrip, kali, adamg or <enter name of dev>, it's pure luck that somebody somewhere decided to invest his spare time, resources and GOOD WILL to make something for us users. It's not a right to use custom ROMs, it's a privilege and a damed big one!
We all need to tone down with *****ing and nagging people who do this just for us, not for HTC, not for google and they aren't employed by us to produce thes ROMs. Can you even begin to understand how many ppl at google and HTC worked on the original ROM? Hundreds. How many beta testers tested releases that come every few months? Possibly a few hundred maybe even thousands initially for google and still they miss a bug or even 10s of bugs. Now there are a few good people here who use their knowledge and time to give us better roms, They don't have resources of big companies like Google and HTC and yet they make great roms for us, for free.
So please people stop making threads about rom vs rom, stop *****ing who stole what from who, this all is an open source community and everyone here needs to understand that anyone can take their work and change it so it fits their needs better. Devs are good people and they try their best to give us something better every day, we as users can choose our flavors just like ice cream, or frozen yogurt for that matter, you don't go to the people who made your ice cream when you don't like it, you just get another flavor based on what you can learn from the people who like that other flavor.
Let me sum it up a bit,
if you are using CM, then go to the CM thread and ask questions there,
let me give you and example,
"how is your battery on the latest build?"
if you want to know something about battery life on DeFrost you go to the Defrost thread and first search a little bit, than if you can't find the answer post
"am using CM and get 34 hours from my battery, do you get more on DeFrost and does DeFrost support <insert the name of what you need>" and than wait for an answer,
making a new thread like this isn't going to help you or anybody else for that matter. it's just going to start flame wars from fan-boys of each rom and then people start throwing stupid accusations like "this is just a copy of that" with no evidence what so ever and then the whole community suffers cos you had to open another thread instead of looking into threads that already exist.
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This.
Lock.

@ivan_white: Calm down.
He's not asking for "Which Rom is better?"
If that would be the case I'd be fine with your comment.
He's just asking what the big differences are because they look very similar and that's what they are.
If someone would tell him "Rom XYZ has traditional A2SD and Rom ABC has the Google A2SD" then that would be exactly the thing he'd like to know.
For myself there is no rom (without sense) which currently fulfills my needs. I need the enterprise search in the contacts apps. Haven't found that outside the Sense world so far. Except from that feature and the "great" (compared to others) Exchange implementation I don't need Sense.

FutureBSD said:
@ivan_white: Calm down.
He's not asking for "Which Rom is better?"
If that would be the case I'd be fine with your comment.
He's just asking what the big differences are because they look very similar and that's what they are.
If someone would tell him "Rom XYZ has traditional A2SD and Rom ABC has the Google A2SD" then that would be exactly the thing he'd like to know.
For myself there is no rom (without sense) which currently fulfills my needs. I need the enterprise search in the contacts apps. Haven't found that outside the Sense world so far. Except from that feature and the "great" (compared to others) Exchange implementation I don't need Sense.
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well the problem is that if he used the search function he would have found about 20 answers to his question... search before making a thread and i know he didn't mean anything wrong he had old threads and threads for each rom, plus each rom has a feature list on the front page... so this thread is pointless and could only serve as a place for flame

FutureBSD said:
@ivan_white: Calm down.
He's not asking for "Which Rom is better?"
If that would be the case I'd be fine with your comment.
He's just asking what the big differences are because they look very similar and that's what they are.
If someone would tell him "Rom XYZ has traditional A2SD and Rom ABC has the Google A2SD" then that would be exactly the thing he'd like to know.
For myself there is no rom (without sense) which currently fulfills my needs. I need the enterprise search in the contacts apps. Haven't found that outside the Sense world so far. Except from that feature and the "great" (compared to others) Exchange implementation I don't need Sense.
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Then this is still a pointless thread as you can get that information from the first post in both the aforementioned rom threads.

[Q] What ROM To Use?

I am ready to dive in with the Unrevoked3 method to root my Desire, I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although I am interested in what the whole ROM scene has to offer.
I presume that all my paid apps will still work as well?

i would stick to the rom you are using because if you have to ask that question, you haven't done enough research, if there was a single answer to what rom to use, then there wouldn't be so many around
so the final answer is, stick to the stock froyo that you've got already, there's nothing to be gained from other roms considering you didn't specify what it is you were looking for

Moved to Q&A as not development

bamboo12 said:
you haven't done enough research .. you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.

DroidBois said:
I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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Your way of research really puzzles me looking at the bold parts in your OP below.
I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although
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- Yes, you should be able to flash a custom rom, if you can follow the instructions.
- There is no comprehensive list, the number of rom's and the changes are to large to keep it up to date, or do you offer to create one
- suggestions will tell you to use rom a, b, s, or z, depending on the users preferences. The only thing you can do is to read the rom description, and start skimming and following the rom's which description you liked.
A thing you left out, and what is normally mentioned in a question like this, do you prefer sense or non-sense?
To finish: I use LeeDroiD V2.1 and I am happy with it, it's stable / reliable, and it's Sense based.
Now just wait for the OD, DeFrost, Pays, Cyanogen (just some examples) and other rom users to give there opinion,
and then decide

^^ pretty much what he said!!
No one can tell you what to use, only give their opinions. Ultimately you'll have to read the threads and just try the ROMs until you find one you're happy with. I've gone back to stock as it does what I need it to

i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
i guess it's like hazing for nerds.
seriously though, i'm gonna answer all your questions right here and now:
go with CM6. then download another one and try it. then download another one and try it. and then... come back here and tell us what your opinion is. you know, pay it forward and don't become one of those condescending dorks after you have figured it all out.
that is all. i'm going bowling with your father...

anotherdroid said:
i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
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Well, when you don't get out much and you don't have many friends.. We should be more sympathetic to 'special needs' people.
Anyway, I'm on AuraxTsense now (check my sig for full details). I like the concept of undervolting for extended battery life, however before I dive in to ROMs, what can cause damage? I will avoid overclocking ROMs for that reason, anything else to watch out for?
What's the advantage of Cyanogen over others? I also read that Modaco ROMs are designed with stability in mind.
Is there any way to back up settings to restore when switching ROMs? Or should I just back each one up with all my settings and use that?

In the last week or so I've tried at least
- Cyanogen
- PirateRUM
- Some PAYS Sense one
- OpenDesire
- ShadowSense
+ another 1 or 2 I forget now
with Alex-V's one still to try.
The main thing I'd say is:
- Do you want Sense?
- Do you want GApps and other fluff preinstalled?
Try them and see...
Personally
- I like OD but it needs the Sense music player
- CM has no market, and I have not worked out how cutdown it's GApps package yet to remove fluff

I have been using cyanogenmod 6 for a few days now.
And im not going anywere anytime soon
However, like they say, try em all

Aurax is rocking my boat right now although struggling to work out how to install Maps..
What do you like about Cyanogen?

The ui is good. It just works. Try out for yourself. Painless to install. Ohh and the battery performance is alot better then the stock rom
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM

faraon83 said:
Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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???
Wow you just dug up a 2yr old thread!!
Sent from my HTC Desire

He needs 10 posts...
Dude... reply to the newer threads. At least november 2012.

[Q] Getting Verizon Nexus. (Rom suggestions)

Hello there everyone. I have been browsing this site for about the past 2 years but only decided to register because I am upgrading from my OG Droid Incredible to the Nexus and i see how large and active the Dev base is for this device. I have a fair amount of experience with flashing roms on my Dinc (currently running CM7.2) and am excited to make the move to ICS.
I would like some opinions on what you guys think are the best custom roms out for the nexus though. so far I am very interested in AOKP because it seems to be the most stable and polished rom i have seen. I plan to flash my nexus right out of the box when i get it.
Also, i can't seem to find a place to add a signature in the Cpanel, is there one somewhere or do you guys just add on a Copy/Paste to the end of posts?

If you've been around this site for a couple of years now you should know that asking "what the best ROM is" only leads to closed threads. Its all a matter of opinion. What works for one person may not necessarily work for another.. why this person thinks this ROM is the best, another person may think the opposite. It's best to try them out for yourself, see which one YOU like.
As far as editing your sig.. at the top somewhere on your PC, you'll see User CP (user control panel).. click it. Then look to the left if your screen.. along the sidebar you should see Edit Signature. ..if that's what your referring to!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

i'm sorry if i come off like i want to know what the "best rom" is, i know that there is no best rom and like you said what works for one person may not work for another. that being said, some personal opinions about their taste in roms are still useful are they not?. and i do fully intend to try out several roms. as for my experience with this site, 90% of it has been with viewing the first page of rom posts, so i apologize for my ignorance in that regard. and i thoroughly searched through the user control panel to no avail, signatures must be disabled for me if that is where the interface to change them is located.
[EDIT] the reason joined this site is because with the nexus, i would actually like to get involved in the dev community and create something new, i was trying to use this thread more as a "say hi" kind of thread than just asking about what rom i should get. i dont think i accomplished that very well.

My advice is to just unlock bootloader, root and then run STOCK ROM. I have been running ROMS on phones here for a long time and for the first time on a phone think at this point the STOCK rom is the best and most stable. Next to it I would say Mikes AHRD is a great stable rom and that is always his goal. But try them all if you like. I would stay STOCK>

[Q] 10.1 for Arc S LT18i

Hi.
I can find the Alpha CM10.1 in dev section for PRO. Was wondering if there is a stable 10.1 for the ARC S LT18i or any JB based ROM for that matter?
On that note, would you consider the CM10 and ICS based ROM's to be stable? As in daily driver worthy?
Not asking "which ROM is best" etc... rather just asking if you consider them as stable, in general. I am considering UltimaHD even thought it's ICS based, but really wanted to go up to JB if there is anything stable and worthy out there. I don't really care if it's AOKP, AOSP or Stock based.

Pitbull_Raven said:
Hi.
I can find the Alpha CM10.1 in dev section for PRO. Was wondering if there is a stable 10.1 for the ARC S LT18i or any JB based ROM for that matter?
On that note, would you consider the CM10 and ICS based ROM's to be stable? As in daily driver worthy?
Not asking "which ROM is best" etc... rather just asking if you consider them as stable, in general. I am considering UltimaHD even thought it's ICS based, but really wanted to go up to JB if there is anything stable and worthy out there. I don't really care if it's AOKP, AOSP or Stock based.
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Yes, there is, use the Search tool. Then go read the topic and you will find a lot of information about the ROM from people, who have actually used it.

Someguyfromhell said:
Yes, there is, use the Search tool. Then go read the topic and you will find a lot of information about the ROM from people, who have actually used it.
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Oh, joy! A snarky reply! How wonderful. But you are right. I should have considered that "search" button in the firs.... Wait a God damn minute! I DID!
As opposed to your usual noob, I actually took the time to search. My research (although I am sure flawed) is what led me to conclude that maybe UltimaHD would be the best choice for me. Also, I found numerous ROMs. Searching for 4.1.2 in titles only returned a bucketload of results for ICS ROMs (yes, that's right... you can even try it if you want). In those I did find mention to 1 MIUI ROM and 1 [rom][update jb][4.1.2]arc/s v06. MIUI is not something I'm interested in using right now. The second, I can't quite figure out if it's a daily driver or not. Also, many of the ROMs seem to be ICS/JB mixes.
The ARC S is not my phone. I have a SIII. I'm trying to compile the necessary info to decide what ROM to flash on the device (which actually belongs to my wife). Not having much time to flash as many ROMs as I do on my SIII, I thought maybe I'd rather ask the people that have actually used and tested available ROMs, rather than flashing one now and having my wife tell me it's no good a few days later and having to do it all over again. So far I have managed to figure out how to unlock bootloader (I hope, because I'll only be doing it tomorrow evening), root the device using flashtool (still not sure if it'll work on stock 4.0.4 but from what I have read so far, I gather it will), and flash a recovery. Am still a bit unclear on all the boot.img flashing that goes on and why it's necessary. Seems to me this has to do with the data partition. Of course I could be wrong.
So again, sorry if I "didn't" use the search button first. I'll try and not have it happen again. Oh, and thanks so much for the help. /end sarcasm
Jeeezzzzz I am so sick and tired of everyone just assuming we don't search before asking questions. Have you ever stopped to consider the reasons behind the questions? No disrespect, dude, I can see you are a senior member and have a really nice post count. I'm sure you have made valuable contributions to this community. But just assuming stuff doesn't really suit you.

Pitbull_Raven said:
Oh, joy! A snarky reply! How wonderful. But you are right. I should have considered that "search" button in the firs.... Wait a God damn minute! I DID!
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To be fair, having read your post I have to wonder why the need to start a new thread, especially when you still have THIS one going.
Pitbull_Raven said:
Jeeezzzzz I am so sick and tired of everyone just assuming we don't search before asking questions. Have you ever stopped to consider the reasons behind the questions? No disrespect, dude, I can see you are a senior member and have a really nice post count. I'm sure you have made valuable contributions to this community. But just assuming stuff doesn't really suit you.
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Again, I didn't quite understand the point of starting a new thread so myself found it annoying to see you asking what you have, "Not asking "which ROM is best" etc", not directly you might not be but essentially, it is what you're asking, and some of us are sick of seeing such threads posted and this sums up why...
eagleeyetom said:
I can't agree more. Which ROM is the fastest? Which kernel is best? etc. etc. It's like walking into a bar and asking which drink is the best. You can't get your answer because every person around has a personal taste and looking for something different.
Going further. Telling that one ROM is better than another is quite disrespectful to developers. Most of them spent much time making their work for FREE and one guy can easily depreciate their work.
If you're looking for answer - try. It's easy and making it on your own is much funnier than looking for spoon feeding in every situations. Thinking is fun
Just my 3 grosz.
Thanks!
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As this isn't you're Phone, as I said on my other thread, root, remove bloatware and tweak a stock ROM.

XperienceD said:
To be fair, having read your post I have to wonder why the need to start a new thread, especially when you still have THIS one going.
Again, I didn't quite understand the point of starting a new thread so myself found it annoying to see you asking what you have, "Not asking "which ROM is best" etc", not directly you might not be but essentially, it is what you're asking, and some of us are sick of seeing such threads posted and this sums up why...
As this isn't you're Phone, as I said on my other thread, root, remove bloatware and tweak a stock ROM.
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Yes, you are right. I still have another thread going. But I didn't want to muddy the waters. I want to keep it separate. The focus of this thread was to understand if there is a working, for daily use, JB ROM out there. For ICS I am already pretty convinced Ultimate is the way to go as far as what I am looking for. Your reply in the other thread was most appreciated and was actually what I had considered, before I got the "go ahead" from the wife. Again, thanks for the tip. But now the circumstances have changed and flashing a ROM is now an option. For this reason I am just trying to figure out if I should opt for aosp 4.1.2, 4.2.1 or CM 10(.1) based on user experience when it comes to stability and broken features or bugs. I do not need anyone to tell me which ROM is best. I have already been told to avoid "which ROM is best" threads and I intend to do as told. But honest to God that's not what I want here. Just opinions regarding aosp 4.1.2, 4.2.1 or CM 10(.1). In general. Don't need anyone saying X rom is better or whatnot. And I am terribly sorry if this is how it came across. As for trying ROM's, I'm all for it. I have Obsessive Rom Disorder myself and am a total flashaholic. I flash ROMs to my phones like every other day at the latest. But as you pointed out my other thread, you can see that flashing dozens of roms to the ARC is not an option. I am trying to find what is or isn't stable so I can decide on the path to go, and then choose a ROM based on that. Imagine I flash 4.1.2 only to find it FC's a lot using camera app or whatever. Or that wifi is unstable and she really relies on wifi daily for work. Or anything else. I check the ROM threads for known bugs, but many a rom here on XPERIA ARC sub-forums don't list bugs, either because they have non, or because OP's don't post them. I tend to think it's probably the former and not the latter, but since I am quite used to seeing some sort of buglist, I am not sure and so, of course, hesitant.
Please, please don't think I mean to be disrespectful. Or rude. Or just plain annoying. It's just that I really can't afford to get this wrong. I need to get this right first time round (or at least within the first couple of tries) so my wife can continue to work with the phone and not come to me saying "this and that don't work".
I appreciate the community. I have learned a whole lot from you guys. I support devs when I can through donations (small for sure, but I tend to donate what I can afford from time to time). And I answer whenever I think I can help and contribute. It's just I get so annoyed when I see people just assuming I didn't search.
Sorry for the rant.

Pitbull_Raven said:
Please, please don't think I mean to be disrespectful. Or rude. Or just plain annoying. It's just that I really can't afford to get this wrong. I need to get this right first time round (or at least within the first couple of tries) so my wife can continue to work with the phone and not come to me saying "this and that don't work".
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I understand your need to get it right but you'd had some good responses in the other thread which you could of followed up, and unfortunately it obviously has come across as annoying, but we're a forgiving community. The best thing to do when trying to decide is to read through the last few pages of a ROM thread and see what's being reported, just because a ROM might work right to begin with, unknown conflicts might start to arise when the Phones been used for a prolonged period of time, an update to a certain app breaks something etc, and while for many it may not be an issue because they'll just come and get a fix or wait for an update to something that might not bother them but bothers the next user, I wouldn't go the custom ROM route, but she's your Wife at the end of the day so it's not my balls on the line.

XperienceD said:
I understand your need to get it right but you'd had some good responses in the other thread which you could of followed up, and unfortunately it obviously has come across as annoying, but we're a forgiving community. The best thing to do when trying to decide is to read through the last few pages of a ROM thread and see what's being reported, just because a ROM might work right to begin with, unknown conflicts might start to arise when the Phones been used for a prolonged period of time, an update to a certain app breaks something etc, and while for many it may not be an issue because they'll just come and get a fix or wait for an update to something that might not bother them but bothers the next user, I wouldn't go the custom ROM route, but she's your Wife at the end of the day so it's not my balls on the line.
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I hear you. And I have succesfuly managed to root the phone. Am now in the process of doing a Titanium Backup of the device and a NANDROID too. I don't really want to flash custom. I'd rather tweak as you suggested, but to be honest, I have no idea where to begin with this device.

[Q] Best AOSP rom (most stable and everything working)? What about stock based?

Hi guys,
Just wondering if there's a general consensus on the most stable AOSP rom? Preferably one that doesn't have anything (major) broken - e.g I can live without voice search, I must have a fully working camera, etc. Also built to be stable as a rock. Are the AOSP roms vulnerable to the SDS?
Or are they not quite there yet?
For those of you not on AOSP, what stock-based roms do you like? I don't really understand the difference between stock and things like ARHD for example? How stable is it compared to stock, and what about battery life? My 4.1.1 battery was incredible but 4.1.2 isn't so good.
Cheers!

Hi guys,
Just wondering if there's a general consensus on the most stable "What's the best ROM" thread? Preferably one that doesn't have anything (major) broken - e.g I can live without newbies opinions, I must have a fully detailed answers, etc. Also built to be the most stable as a rock thread, one that even the mods won't delete for being the 500th repeat thread. Are the AOSP roms threads vulnerable to the SDS (Sudden Deletion Syndrome)?
Or are the threads not quite there yet? Do we need another one?
For those of you not on XDA regularly, what stock-based roms threads do you like? I don't really understand the difference between searching and posting yet another thread for example? How silly is it compared to other threads, and what about sarcasm life, how quickly will my threads be mocked? My first thread was incredible but this "What's the best ROM" isn't so good.
Cheers!

Android Revolution HD (14.0 for the Galaxy Note 2) is probably the closest you're going to come to what you want. It's based on the stock ROM, but lordy! is it fast. And rock solid. Has a built-in installer that allows you to remove (or not) the Samsung cruft. Been using it since version 9, and I am quite happy with it. Check the thread in the developer forum.

muppetmania said:
Hi guys,
Just wondering if there's a general consensus on the most stable "What's the best ROM" thread? Preferably one that doesn't have anything (major) broken - e.g I can live without newbies opinions, I must have a fully detailed answers, etc. Also built to be the most stable as a rock thread, one that even the mods won't delete for being the 500th repeat thread. Are the AOSP roms threads vulnerable to the SDS (Sudden Deletion Syndrome)?
Or are the threads not quite there yet? Do we need another one?
For those of you not on XDA regularly, what stock-based roms threads do you like? I don't really understand the difference between searching and posting yet another thread for example? How silly is it compared to other threads, and what about sarcasm life, how quickly will my threads be mocked? My first thread was incredible but this "What's the best ROM" isn't so good.
Cheers!
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Hilarious! No seriously, thanks for taking the time to satirise the thread without taking note of some of the questions I'd asked.
I've searched long and hard about SDS and not getting anything at all concrete about the implications of using AOSP. We don't all have the £500 to throw around and just risk bricking our device because somebody is to pretentious to actually help out someone that has taken the time to look but still needs some guidance.
iCurmudgeon said:
Android Revolution HD (14.0 for the Galaxy Note 2) is probably the closest you're going to come to what you want. It's based on the stock ROM, but lordy! is it fast. And rock solid. Has a built-in installer that allows you to remove (or not) the Samsung cruft. Been using it since version 9, and I am quite happy with it. Check the thread in the developer forum.
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Hi mate, thanks for the response. ARHD was great on my desire HD when I used it almost 2 years ago on that, and it looks to be the best stock rom for my needs - I appreciate the first hand review though! Still trying to get my head around aosp roms, many of which without buglists and uncertainties regarding SDS :/

Tamen said:
Hilarious! No seriously, thanks for taking the time to satirise the thread without taking note of some of the questions I'd asked.
I've searched long and hard about SDS and not getting anything at all concrete about the implications of using AOSP. We don't all have the £500 to throw around and just risk bricking our device because somebody is to pretentious to actually help out someone that has taken the time to look but still needs some guidance.
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SDS Thread
What - is - the - best - ROM
The sad truth of SDS is that no one really knows (sure, there's a LOT of speculation) anything about it. I know 3 people with S3's who have had their phone die after they upgraded to the latest Sammy Official "patched for SDS" ROM. It's sadly a gamble we all take.
Anyway, if you're really done some research then I apologise. You didn't mention that at all in your original post, it looked like another "I'm too lazy to research this, bring it to me on a platter" thread.

muppetmania said:
SDS Thread
What - is - the - best - ROM
The sad truth of SDS is that no one really knows (sure, there's a LOT of speculation) anything about it. I know 3 people with S3's who have had their phone die after they upgraded to the latest Sammy Official "patched for SDS" ROM. It's sadly a gamble we all take.
Anyway, if you're really done some research then I apologise. You didn't mention that at all in your original post, it looked like another "I'm too lazy to research this, bring it to me on a platter" thread.
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Whilst the title is generic the inside of the thread was a bit more particular - with the SDS focus - and so given that nothing was out there I'm not really sure of the point of putting "honestly I've searched please don't kill me" because this is my 3rd device I've played with and used xda for and I know how petty a lot of forum members can be, it simply wouldn't make a difference.
The SDS thread is naturally where I started but has extremely limited info for aosp rom. The what is the best rom threads you posted are largely redundant given the lack of information or type of experience they're looking for is provided. Most are a waste of everyone's time and given how quickly development rakes place even if they were relevant they could still quickly be outdated.
Your tone in your first reply suggested that the answers were blindingly obvious and even a moron like me could find them with the most primitive of searches. Instead you've just admitted that no one really knows and it therefore was a valid question - a bit more thought before posting could go a long way.

Tamen said:
Whilst the title is generic the inside of the thread was a bit more particular - with the SDS focus - and so given that nothing was out there I'm not really sure of the point of putting "honestly I've searched please don't kill me" because this is my 3rd device I've played with and used xda for and I know how petty a lot of forum members can be, it simply wouldn't make a difference.
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The point of telling people you've done some research is so that they don't assume you're lazy. Sadly, most people ARE lazy. SDS focus? You mention it once, in passing.
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The SDS thread is naturally where I started but has extremely limited info for aosp rom. The what is the best rom threads you posted are largely redundant given the lack of information or type of experience they're looking for is provided. Most are a waste of everyone's time and given how quickly development rakes place even if they were relevant they could still quickly be outdated.
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And you were hoping to create the "What is the best ROM" thread that wasn't a waste of everyone's time?
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Your tone in your first reply suggested that the answers were blindingly obvious and even a moron like me could find them with the most primitive of searches.
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Right, for your generic "Which is the best ROM" question. There's heaps of them out there already and none of them answer it because it's such a subjective question.
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Instead you've just admitted that no one really knows and it therefore was a valid question - a bit more thought before posting could go a long way.
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I like how you're trying to pretend your whole first post was all about SDS. Sure, it totally was. My bad.

Liquid Smooth ROM, no doubt! It's perfect! I haven't had any crashes and glitches yet!
I would prefer the Slim Bean JB ROM but, the camera doesn't work (build 5). Once the camera issue is fixed, I am going to revert back to Slim Bean JB

Hi all, I'm the OP for the Grand ROM Survey (TW and AOSP) for the N7100.
57 ROMs and 160 versions selectable.
I'm requesting your participation so that there is enough data to objectively answer the question "popular" and "best" as there is a scoring feature that allows ROMs to be ranked.
Please submit as many entries as you wish based on the ROMs and versions you've tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232765
Thanks !!!!

Derpfulderp said:
Liquid Smooth ROM, no doubt! It's perfect! I haven't had any crashes and glitches yet!
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Liquid smooth is the best ! As for Tw based rom try X note Zero edition.Its light weight, fast and amazing.The size of the rom is under 400 mb.Try it !
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