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Sprint reportedly cancelling......

Ahhhhh damn here we go again.....LOL
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/sprint-cancelling-early-upgrades/
"Like dominoes, Sprint's consumer-friendly policies continue to fall one at a time. Citing "high costs," the Now Network will begin discontinuing its practice of allowing customers to upgrade their phone 10-14 days prior to the official date of eligibility" - They aint lying

Not too bad, but still disappointing.
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Eh, no big deal to me. But it sucks for those that take advantage of it. Thanks for sharing.

Yea its not earth shattering but its just another broken link in the chain of bad decisions by Sprint lately. The sad part is you sit back and go what next...

In my point of veiw all sprint has done the last year is raise cost for us! We customers who wanted 4g and bought the evo 4g most never seen or connected to 4g. 3G speeds are beyond terrible and downright bog to 1X kind of speed during busy hours. At this point the cost between Sprint and verizon service is closing more and more as we speak. So I can expect many more customers to think, Why not go to a service with great data and call connectivity. Sprint really had a good think going with cost effective plans, but since have taken away many things like discounts on all lines, premier customers, ect ect. I know they are still cheaper but for how long and when will we see good data speeds like other companies? We are dead last in that!

How on earth is two weeks early costly?

Personally my biggest regret is getting my S2...not because I don't like the phone, but Sprint's data service is just godawfully slow. I bet I use less than 50M a month. The second I get home I go to WiFi and when I'm out and about I just don't bother as the 3G is a joke.
Unless Sprint gets LTE here in Iowa by mid 2013, I'll pay the early termination fee for our lines and go to Verizon. When I'm a meeting a work I'll have my coworker look stuff up on his Galaxy Nexus...with the 8-12 MB download speeds from Verizon.
Life could certainly be worse, but my data speeds have nowhere to go but up.

I don't see this as a big deal whatsoever. The last line of the memo is the most important Imo. Everyone is eligible for upgrade the 1st of the month their contract is up. What more can you ask for?
As far as sprint saving money, not sure how really. I mean by allowing an early upgrade they are guaranteeing 22 months of payment out of you. Most of us would use that 2 weeks to get a new phone on launch, right? What happens when instead of getting a launch phone with them early, another carrier has a new phone being released when your contract is up? I'm blabbing, but what I'm saying is if they let me upgrade a little early I would be more likely to stay with that provider. But if I wait then I'm suddenly out of contract, which would make me shop around carriers.
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I see potential loss here, because they are basically giving sprint customers a reason to shop around while off contract instead of always keeping us in contract by allowing early upgrades.
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ib4 'would this allow me to get out w/o paying ETF', 'is this a breach of contract?', etc

Figures... Admittedly the 3g speeds are ridiculously slow... The only thing keeping me with sprint is the unlimited data... When that goes out the window so do I...
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Another nickel in the nickel-and-diming Sprint is doing causing customer losses.

Could be worse, verizon is removing all grandfathered plans with unlimited data:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/

daryelv said:
Another nickel in the nickel-and-diming Sprint is doing causing customer losses.
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Exactly, if you treat this as a separate event then its not a big deal but if you start to add up all that has happened in the past year and since the Iphone came aboard and it may upset you especially if you took 2 minutes to have this page refresh due to network restraints....

brooksyx said:
Could be worse, verizon is removing all grandfathered plans with unlimited data:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/
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Was just going to post this.
All that monthly cost just to get bent over lololol
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mattykinsx said:
Was just going to post this.
All that monthly cost just to get bent over lololol
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Yeah, I do wish I had verizon for their great coverage, thats what I had before my parents kicked me off of their plan.
But hey I don't mind my virgin mobile: 1200min/unlimited text/unlimited data for $40 a month. I am pretty happy with that. Even have unlimited wimax 4g
I will probably switch over to sprint in a year or two though when I can afford it better.

chadillac3 said:
Personally my biggest regret is getting my S2...not because I don't like the phone, but Sprint's data service is just godawfully slow. I bet I use less than 50M a month. The second I get home I go to WiFi and when I'm out and about I just don't bother as the 3G is a joke.
Unless Sprint gets LTE here in Iowa by mid 2013, I'll pay the early termination fee for our lines and go to Verizon. When I'm a meeting a work I'll have my coworker look stuff up on his Galaxy Nexus...with the 8-12 MB download speeds from Verizon.
Life could certainly be worse, but my data speeds have nowhere to go but up.
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i live in Iowa as well. all my friends have Verizon as well. they do have nice service but they can only use 2gb a month or they pay out the ass. i get around 1mb down most days and i use about 10-16gb of data per month. my bill has never gone up and no one at sprint cares.
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I think this is a good move. You guys that are complaining about it need to see what we see in the stores. This 14 day early deal is confusing to customers and abused by third party stores. The cost savings are in reduced overrides that are done when customers come in confused. Id rather have a consistent, fair policy than one that can be used to work the system by some and not taken advantage of by others. The upgrade now promo is a perfect example of a policy change that makes sense. Customers in March could pay to reset their upgrade regardless of the plan they were on. Instead of yearly upgrades for customers on expensive plans, now anyone could get it with a little extra cash if they need it.
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darksideauto said:
i live in Iowa as well. all my friends have Verizon as well. they do have nice service but they can only use 2gb a month or they pay out the ass. i get around 1mb down most days and i use about 10-16gb of data per month. my bill has never gone up and no one at sprint cares.
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Don't let my girlfriend see your posts. She has a Verizon Gnex but the 4g is nearly useless. We live an hour away from the Quad Cities and Verizon's 4g only covers the core of that area.
At least with Sprint, there's no teasing just out of range prospect of 4g!

HenryDCase said:
Don't let my girlfriend see your posts. She has a Verizon Gnex but the 4g is nearly useless. We live an hour away from the Quad Cities and Verizon's 4g only covers the core of that area.
At least with Sprint, there's no teasing just out of range prospect of 4g!
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She should be getting LTE by end of this year, though...with Sprint...I may be retired before it happens.

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How on earth is two weeks early costly?
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cause if you do it everytime you can over 54 years you just got a free phone.

What do guys think?

So I know this probably isn't going to be one of the best questions, but do guys think I should stick around with Verizon and get the Dinc 4glte, or should I move to Sprint and get new Evo? I really wanna know what you fine gentlemen ( and gentle women) think.
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i think... GSM

I would stick with verizon. Sprint has horible reception at least where i live and their customer service is even worse. Also the evo 4g was a crappy phone, my wife had one and it was nothing but issue after issue. It also had horible battery life, and would sometimes not charge even though it said it was.

Shano56 said:
i think... GSM
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+1, CDMA networks have a faster LTE capability but GSM will bring you a lot more benefits particularly with nexus devices. Personally, I am thinking about going to AT&T or T-Mobile after my contract with Verizon expires next April and buying a gnex or the next nexus device if it will be available by then. Verizon is, in my opinion, the best network in terms of customer service and cell reception but they are also aware of that and take advantage of that fact by leaching their customers and bloating phones for no reason. You are far better off with a GSM network like AT&T for good reception or t-mobile and you can still get an unlimited plan for a reasonable price.

Thanks a lot guys! I really do want to stick with Verizon, but with the income I make being a 16 year old dishwasher, its kinda hard to afford it. The only reason I would move to sprint is because of the cheaper contracts and the Evo (even though I've heard some pretty interesting defects on it.) I still have until December to make up my mind if I don't want to pay for early termination.
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Yeah I highly recommended T-Mobile for those who have their coverage in their area. If not, then ATT. I suggest T-Mobile first, because at least in my opinion, they have cheaper prices and better customer support. I pay $15 a month right now on T-Mobile
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I was comparing prices over the weekend and found that as of right now, it is cheaper for me and my wife to stay with Verizon. Our contract is up in Dec, if signing a new one forces us into the tiered plan, we will probably switch to sprint, they still have unlimited as of right now. But if I can keep my unlimited even though we sign a new contract, I will stay with Verizon and buy my phones through swappa or Google if they really do come out with a new Nexus that they will sell themselves. It all depends on the unlimited factor for me. If would like to check out t-mobile but I don't know anyone around me who has it. AT&T is a no go, we left them for Verizon because of poor reception, we called and they said they had a tower down in our area due to corrosion, that means rust to me and that is just lazy on their part.
It might be time to rethink my usage and dependence on a cell phone.

You can get a $25 T-Mobile phone and a free sim if you go into the store or $1 if you buy online to test out their coverage
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Sprint GS3 vs Verizon GS3

I'm currently on Verizon but my contract is about to expire and I can save about $60/month switching to Sprint through my current employer. Verizon phones have so much development for them it's making my choice a lot harder than it should be to switch. Never having been a Sprint user, I'm not sure what the development is like here. Is there a lot of development for Sprint phones (especially the GS3) or is it pretty slow for this carrier?
Thanks in advance.
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KlugN said:
I'm currently on Verizon but my contract is about to expire and I can save about $60/month switching to Sprint through my current employer. Verizon phones have so much development for them it's making my choice a lot harder than it should be to switch. Never having been a Sprint user, I'm not sure what the development is like here. Is there a lot of development for Sprint phones (especially the GS3) or is it pretty slow for this carrier?
Thanks in advance.
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Development is alive and thriving... Roms are consistantly getting updates, See our development section.

$60 is a lot of money. i've not been on verizon, but i have been pretty happy with the selection of roms on the sprint forum. my only caveat would be that verizon tends to have broader coverage, especially lte coverage. if that would be an issue for you, then it may be worth the extra money. But $60 over a year is over $700. I can think of a lot of things one could do with $700.

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$60 is a lot of money. i've not been on verizon, but i have been pretty happy with the selection of roms on the sprint forum. my only caveat would be that verizon tends to have broader coverage, especially lte coverage. if that would be an issue for you, then it may be worth the extra money. But $60 over a year is over $700. I can think of a lot of things one could do with $700.
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I agree about the coverage issue but it's only true when you're out of the major metropolitan area. However, with the Jap company takeover I think they'll grow big in the near future with probably more advanced technology. What do you think?

My Sprint data coverage is soooooooo slow, I'm moving to Straight Talk ASAP.
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The only downside to Sprint right now is the Tower upgrades they are doing... If your area is done with the updates you will love it if they are still upgrading your speeds will be subpar at best...I have been with Sprint for 3 contracts and even through the last year of upgrades my speeds are usually around 30 mbs and in surrounding towns where there is still work being done I have little or iffy reception... I would say to save $60 a month its more than worth switching but be prepared for certain areas to great and others to be okay until later this year... Now as for development there is plenty... More than I have been able to get my hands on as of yet I hope to flash some more soon but trust there is a lot out there... Hope this helps!
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This might not matter much to many, but i do like the fact that Verizon's GS3 is dual mode CDMA/GSM. Wish the Sprint version was dual mode as well.

Im so tired of sprint data here in washington state.. data is unusable here no matter where I go..
Went to 7/11 and couldnt select a card in google wallet because the data was too slow.. went to kmart and couldnt transfer money from my saving to my checking using the USAA app because data was too slow.. I even went all the way outside and it didnt help..
I love google maps and google navigation, but I had to buy copilot because data wont stay connected and copilot dont need to use any data to work.
Here in Washington state if your not using wifi.. sprint phones is only good for phone calls and texting.. I wish I could go to another company but I can bearly afford to pay my sprint bill now.. lol
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I definitely agree with sprint data sucks in washington. Even being close to pdx its still super slow
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Some say dish or Sprint might try to take over tmobile

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/07/investor-sees-t-mobile-as-takeover-target-for-dish-network-sprint/
I honestly don't want either to take over. But if I had to choose, I'd choose dish.
With me just coming from Sprint I have this to say
You would have to shoot me in the face to get me to ever give another penny to Sprint. Their 3g data speeds are horrific in most places (even in places that have network vision dine, it's just "meh" speed, still sub par) I could never get above a 20 kb/s download rate. Not to mention how much more expensive they are with their plans (when I was with then, I had the cheapest available, 450 min and unlimited everything else for 69.99 a month.) Back in the day, Sprint could compete, but they let their towers become dated and do to little to late when they finally do decide to do something about it. Not to mention hour they boned their wimax phone buyers.
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Rather it be Dish than Sprint. Had a 4g phone since wimax came out... then LTE.... Still no 4g in Savannah. I said goodbye to them when the S4 came out and switched to tmo. Got them to cancel the early termination fee because of the past few years of bad service in the entire Southeast area of GA and SC. Took a week of convincing.
Then Tmo: It was instant "oh this is what 4g is like!" Roommate is still getting 10-100 KILObytes on Sprint, while I'm getting 15-26mb on Tmo. Suck it Sprint.
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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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Skipjacks said:
You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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This.
And with what money is Sprint buying anyone, TMo isn't exactly Virgin Mobile.

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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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Lol yes. Very well aware. Different tech. It's just the thought of being a customer of a Sprint owned anything. Seeing them fail so much.
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Thats hillarious. Sprint DOES NOT have the money to take over a network that is triple in size to the one they already have. I also don't see how a tv company wants a cell phone network. I think its a load of garbage. Yes i read the link in the OP. T-Mobile is doing better than a lot of its competition, i seriously don't see Sprint "taking them over". Thats a laughing joke lol. Sprint sucks beyond sucking xD

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You realize that if sprint took over they would use t mobiles existing network, right?
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yes but if sprint takes over, they will probably let the towers become dated like they did their own and we wont see these speeds for long

Seems to me that AT&T tried this not too long ago. The result? Fed Govt said "Nope, not going to happen" AT&T got pissy and walked away.. but not before paying T-Mo a pretty sizeable chunk of cash because the merger didn't go through.
Don't see anyone picking up T-Mo in the near future.

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Seems to me that AT&T tried this not too long ago. The result? Fed Govt said "Nope, not going to happen" AT&T got pissy and walked away.. but not before paying T-Mo a pretty sizeable chunk of cash because the merger didn't go through.
Don't see anyone picking up T-Mo in the near future.
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Exactly. Don't know hat anything has changed either for the Fed to rule otherwise.
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I think this has been rumored for a while and I don't think it will ever happen. T-mobile's patent company, Deutsche Telekom, is a massive company and I don't think they would let tmo go.
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Dish and sprint don't have that kind of money to take over tmobile ...
>O/C GalaxyGS4<

yeah as it was said AT&T tried to buy them out and the US government put a big red flag in that. people (such as myself) are leaving sprint to go with tmo because of the better service and price. plus, not sure if youve seen/heard the commercials but AT&T are trying to stay afloat by copying tmo's not contract deals... oh and to the guy who said something about a tv company buying a cell company.... even though verizon started as a phone company im fairly certain that their tv/internet service is pretty amazing.

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http://www.tmonews.com/2013/07/investor-sees-t-mobile-as-takeover-target-for-dish-network-sprint/
I honestly don't want either to take over. But if I had to choose, I'd choose dish.
With me just coming from Sprint I have this to say
You would have to shoot me in the face to get me to ever give another penny to Sprint. Their 3g data speeds are horrific in most places (even in places that have network vision dine, it's just "meh" speed, still sub par) I could never get above a 20 kb/s download rate. Not to mention how much more expensive they are with their plans (when I was with then, I had the cheapest available, 450 min and unlimited everything else for 69.99 a month.) Back in the day, Sprint could compete, but they let their towers become dated and do to little to late when they finally do decide to do something about it. Not to mention hour they boned their wimax phone buyers.
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You couldn't be more correct about sprint speeds theyve bought people with there cheap lets get 10 people on a line call it a family plan... thats Soooo affordable crap..... and then throw you some 30 kb dload speeds...
Sprint should have went under along tine ago, even metro is better than them
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Damn, other carriers be jelly.
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So is there any actual factual information proving all these points being mentioned. I mean unless anyone here is a top corporate executive or has a mole in the company?
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On the other hand Tmo can take over Sprint and put that company out of business once and for all and put their customers out of their misery.

Sprint will be a lot better in a year. They have cash now because of Softbank. I was surprised they came out with the plans they did just recently but hopefully they lower them so that should help all of us.

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Sprint will be a lot better in a year. They have cash now because of Softbank. I was surprised they came out with the plans they did just recently but hopefully they lower them so that should help all of us.
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Sprint will never have good towers. They are trash. They've had two years to improve since I've left them. My cousin still has them. They suck. They aren't going anywhere.
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I'd have little problem with Dish, it could end up benefiting both sides. Still, T-Mobile stands to benefit less from a takeover now than they would have in the past. On the upswing as a carrier, or so it seems.

US wants 4 "major" carriers so unlikely tmo and sprint would merge anymore than tmo and at&t merger was approved by feds.
As for Dish (puke) they can't hardly run tv without being aluminum siding/used car salesmen. They'd be worse than the old nextel (which is where sprint got 95% of their terrible rape, pillage and burn customer service habits).
Full disclosure: was sprint customer almost 10 years (yes im a suicidal masochist lol) before givi g up in disgust & going to att for 3 and now on tmo.
TBH, only went with tmo because of pretty seamless wifi calling (no carrier signal works worth a dam at my house)
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Sprint's getting more money to buy the greatest

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-securing-50-billion-funding-2-banks-t-mobile-purchase
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So they spend $50 billion to buy T-Mobile, then what money are they gonna have to do anything after that? Capitalism at its finest
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Softbank has DEEP pockets. They're just using the AMERICAN name of Sprint for the transaction. Softbank wants them to expand their US market and become the #2 carrier in the WORLD.

I hope this doesn't happen. T Mobile could lose some of its cool services, should the new company decide to phase them out.
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An article I read not too long ago says the talks are only for buying baseband frequencies off of t-mobile. Basically, I think sprint thinks it will be cheaper to buy already implemented 4g instead of doing it themselves. That is one of the reasons I left sprint. Promised me 4g 3 years ago, and still nothing around here.
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50 billion is a whole lot of money!!!
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Good Point here from the article -- Even if it were to secure the huge funding to buy T-Mobile, we have to think such consolidation in the wireless industry would be viewed as detrimental to consumer choice by the FCC and SEC alike. --
Hopefully if it happens they offer some incentives to keep current customers who originally left from Sprint to go to Tmobile in the first place, like myself. If not, its just going to be the same thing as has been going on for years, lots of people havent been to happy with Sprint for awhile now, i mean they arent horrible but TMOBILE for me has been 10x better and ive still got a year left on my contract, so idk. Thanks for the update OP

I used to be with Tmobile years ago before I switched to Sprint. It was one of the worst decisions I have ever made. I live in Orlando Florida and their 3G network here is absolutey horrible. Some places it works fine, others it takes 10 minutes to load a simple text only news article. The 4GLTE network is growing but it's spotty and definitely does not penetrate buildings well at all. I've had so many calls with their tech support and have heard countless lies and excuses. I pretty much have just been giving Sprint free money for the past couple years. They don't care. So I took advantage of the ETF program Tmobile has and went back. Now my phone actually works!! I have even convinced 6 other people to do the same and they are all happy with the savings and improved network. It seems that Sprint knows it may be passed up my Tmobile soon and instead of improving their service, they will just buy up their competition. I'm pretty sure it won't go through, at least I pray it won't.
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Sprint can "secure" all the funding in the world, but there's almost no chance in hell this anti-competitive merger will be allowed to happen.

I hope this does not happen. In Florida..Sprint ....well....sucks!
And look what happened to Nextel when Sprint bought them.....:thumbdown:

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Sprint can "secure" all the funding in the world, but there's almost no chance in hell this anti-competitive merger will be allowed to happen.
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That's what folks said about the American<>US Airways merger. There are now three network airlines in the U.S. Three wireless providers (VZW, AT&T, T-Mobile<>Sprint) of similar scale will do more for competition in the long run than two massive carriers and two without the resources to continue to invest to remain competitive. Capital investment is a percentage of GOP and neither Sprint or T-Mobile is generating enough profit because of their scale to every compete over the long haul with VZW and AT&T.

As much as I despise Sprint, this makes more sense than the possibly ATT monopoly that could have happened.

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I used to be with Tmobile years ago before I switched to Sprint. It was one of the worst decisions I have ever made. I live in Orlando Florida and their 3G network here is absolutey horrible. Some places it works fine, others it takes 10 minutes to load a simple text only news article. The 4GLTE network is growing but it's spotty and definitely does not penetrate buildings well at all. I've had so many calls with their tech support and have heard countless lies and excuses. I pretty much have just been giving Sprint free money for the past couple years. They don't care. So I took advantage of the ETF program Tmobile has and went back. Now my phone actually works!! I have even convinced 6 other people to do the same and they are all happy with the savings and improved network. It seems that Sprint knows it may be passed up my Tmobile soon and instead of improving their service, they will just buy up their competition. I'm pretty sure it won't go through, at least I pray it won't.
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I live Orlando to and you're absolutely right Sprint service suck. I took the Tmobile offer and jumped and I was completely surprised with the speed I was getting and how far behind Sprint really is.
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T-Mobile really can't catch a break can they? They are finally doing well and Sprint is so threatened. I just don't understand why the weaker struggling carrier is wanting to buy T-Mobile. If any of the T-Mobile executives support this or go through with this, I wish T-Mobile to go under. If T-Mobile stays far away from Sprint, then they will continue to be successful.
If a deal does go through, we can only hope its fails so T-Mobile again gets a nice break up fee.

If it happens it happens. We can only hope they take the good things from each company and mesh them into one.
I do find it odd however that sprint has announced wifi calling as of late. I also left sprint for t mobile. I am impressed big time in the difference, and absolutely love the Wi-Fi calling feature.
However, if the 2 merge, you need to remember that frequencies will be doubled in coverage, not cut back.
Positives and negatives, but myself, I am just hoping T-Mobile gets the bands they want from Verizon, and get bigger and better.
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