Hey there,
I tried to calibrate my battery the last few days...
There where so different descriptions on how to do it right.
But well at some point they all said to charge the phone turned of ( well it automaticaly jumps into recovery, right?).
And it was said charge it till the led goes green.
But I think it never happens in my case.
In one case I fully chagred my phone powered on and then turned it off, plugged it in again. The red/orange led staied there even after 3 hours...
The other day I fully discharged the phone and wanted to charge it in recovery mode. So I plugged it in, the red/orange led began to flash, recovery booted and I went to bed. About 10 hours late I woke and the led was still flashing as before.
I had no patience and turned it on. With the system running it tells me, that its at 100%.
Turning it off again unplug and replug it will show the red/orange led again but not flashing.
Its a european desire z (germany)
On Virtuous 0.9
With clockwork 2.something
Any ideas? Should I have been even more patient to see the green light in recovery? How long could it take?
Thanks,
- coni
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It seems the question of how to charge the battery pops up at least once a week now, with the same misconceptions. There is no such thing as calibrating the battery. All you are doing is calibrating the battery meter (just a volt meter) on the phone. Li ion batteries cannot (and should not) be calibrated or conditioned. The best way to calibrate the meter is to charge the phone to 100%, drain to about 20%, repeat a couple times. You should not discharge the battery below 20%. I cover it a little more in depth on the following post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11026655&postcount=7
I don't see any advantage to charging the phone while its off (except that it will charge faster, of course). I always charge mine while its on (with screen off).
I don't know why your green light is not coming on. Mine comes on after the phone has been charging for about 2 hours or less. But I am on the stock ROM, so its possibly something to do with the ROM, so you might have some better response by searching or asking in the Virtuous thread.
Yeah I know that you just calibrate the voltage meter but its just easier to say battery calibration.
Well maye the misconceptions occur because there are plenty of different answers spread and its easy to become confused. I just avereged over these methods and the consensus was to change fully while turned off.
The only way I could think of loading in recovery is better, is that the software prevents loading when it thinks battery is full (but in fact it is not), but I relly dont know.
And you say even after deleting battery stats there is no need for discharging till shutdown (to show the limits or anything)? To reset on full battery is enought?
Thanks,
- coni
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does anybody know how to delete battery statistics of the Desire Z ?
I want to calibrate battery and delete old stats.
Thanks & Greets
Well, your problem first if that you said you had recovery 2.x and that if you turned it off it automatically jumps to recovery.. you seem to have the first recovery that the power off feature wasnt quite working well.. upgrade to a 3.x then like the above user said but drain the battery until it reaches %15.. thats when the Connect To A Charger popup shows up.. and charge to 100% and do couple cycles of these..
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The last 2 days i noticed some battery % jumps. Sometimes it jump from 39 to 33 for instance
Is this normal ?
I've seen it in Battery monitor widget (1minute refresh rate) but also in the stock android battery menu (straight vertical line).
It happens in an instant, i can see it jump before my eye from 39 to 33.
Yes happens quite a lot when coming from sleep. OTA should fix this.
I've had that on other phones as well. For me it's not a "jump", but rather like it consumed 6& in 1min... That's supposed to be normal, if you are really curious, you could try wiping your battery stats though.
Oh no. This happens on my nexus one and my Sensation. Don't tell me this happens again on the One X.
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Phone was not shutting down on 0% ?
I thought to let the phone battery die to solve the issue, but i noticed that the phone was not shutting down on itself ?? it kept running on 0% and voltage decreased to 3000mV ?? (isn't that way to low ?)
I tried to power it off and on again, but it didn't boot. So i put the phone on the charger and the orange led kept blinking ??
Eventually i held down the power button and then it started to charge and i could boot again.
But what's the problem with my phone ? shouldn't it shutdown @ 0% battery on itself to prevent battery damage?
My original Xperia ZL (C6505 Black) charged correctly to 100%. My 1st replacement (C6506 White) would reach 92% and indicate that it was fully charged (orange light turns green). After a week, it would slowly but painfully reach 100% but still assumed 92% was fully charged by switching from orange to green. I decided to get it replaced one last time and what do you know, the same thing happens as well.
The 1st replacement was initially charged with the wall charger. The latest replacement was initially charged via my Macbook to allow it to slowly charge.
Thoughts????
Try to reset battery stats with the yellow button behind the back cover. Press it for 5 seconds I think.
The light turns to green when charging reaches to 90% but it doesnot say its fully charged...actually there is no indication about fully charged just 100% status bar..no message..prevoiusly in ics sony had that charging status on lockscreen now they removed in jelly bean.
And when I remove charger within 1 minute it dropes to 99%...sony should fix this...n status led keeps on green forever... untill u remove the uSb
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unmaskedfalesh said:
The light turns to green when charging reaches to 90% but it doesnot say its fully charged...actually there is no indication about fully charged just 100% status bar..no message..prevoiusly in ics sony had that charging status on lockscreen now they removed in jelly bean.
And when I remove charger within 1 minute it dropes to 99%...sony should fix this...n status led keeps on green forever... untill u remove the uSb
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Yeap exactly after the 253 firmware update this is what happens. It drops to 99 after a min or so.... But then it lasts enough..
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from Sony Xperia ZL manual:
! The battery will start to discharge a little after it is fully charged and then charges again after a
certain time when the charger is connected. This is to extend battery life and may result in the
charge status showing a level below 100 percent.
This is a problem with the 253 update..so wait for an update fix..meanwhile..download the battery doctor App from playstore..it'll guide you how to charge battery in a better way..and ensure a healthy battery,I tested it and it does work quite nicely
If you feel that I've helped you in any way,,please hit the thanks button
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Hi, i have a problem with my Galaxy my Galaxy Tab 3 7.0, can not remember when it started, but the problem is with the Android battery indicator, this start when i left 40% off remaining battery. Example: im playing a game, stop playing and the battery is at 27%, lock the device or turn off the screen for about 30 or 40 second, i look back and indicates that there is 36% remaining battery.
Sometimes indicates remaining 15%, in 30 second or 1 minute, show 5%, i connect to the charger for about 10 seconds, and show 20%.
I have calibrated several times, change rom several times and in all i have the problem, also i have completely discharge the battery, let it charge all night off, when i turn on is at 100% and back to calibrate, and the problem persist. ( i use battery calibration)
If anyone know how to solve this, or know another form to calibrate the battery, please tell me.
Thanks
I have the same issue, mine takes forever to charge but drains fast then States different levels from high to low. I've used several roms but haven't calibrated yet and will calibrate when I'm fully charged. Since you said you have calibrated already I believe the best thing to do is back up your system into recovery then wipe and reflash the rom you're currently using it might help.
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I've seen a few post regarding the 4.3V at 100% thing, but they're too old and haven't really given me much information.
My main issue is that I'm experiencing unusually rapid battery drops after my phone reaches 12% charge, it'd drop to 0% in just a few seconds. I downloaded a few battery calibration apps thinking that it might be a calibration issue. In that process, I noticed that the voltage read by these apps (and even in the *#*#4636#*#* menu) when fully charge is 4,38 volts. It was my understanding that Li-Po batteries should be fully charged at 4.2 volts and that charging past that point is harmful for the battery.
I also noticed that if at this point (charged at 4.38 volts - 100%) I unplugg the charger, the battery indicator would show 100% for a while, until the voltage drops below 4.2V, at that point the porcentage would change to 99%, so it seems that the device is set recognize 4,2V as fully charge, but it continues charging after that point. Also, the green light turns on at 90%, is this normal?
I tried calibrating using this app but with no results. I'm trying the manual calibration now. What is going on here? Could this be a clibration issue or do I have a faulty battery?
I think it is not normal. My P6 drops even a little bit slower from 10%. current my P6 is on 6% and 3,627V. (Edit: Turn off: 3,55V / After charge 100%: 4,32V)
Next time i will charge, then i post the Voltage at 100% for you.
To calibrate the accu you don't need any app. Use P6 until it is automatic power off. Now turn it on so often until it will not start anymore, and only show a red accu on screen. Now charge to 100%, turn on, unplug charger. Now your accu is calibrated.
heross said:
I think it is not normal. My P6 drops even a little bit slower from 10%. current my P6 is on 6% and 3,627V. (Edit: Turn off: 3,55V / After charge 100%: 4,32V)
Next time i will charge, then i post the Voltage at 100% for you.
To calibrate the accu you don't need any app. Use P6 until it is automatic power off. Now turn it on so often until it will not start anymore, and only show a red accu on screen. Now charge to 100%, turn on, unplug charger. Now your accu is calibrated.
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Thanks, heross. So apparently the >4.2V @ 100% is not so unusual. Does your phone remain at 100% for a relatively long time and drops to 99 after the voltage is below 4.2V? Mine does that, and it also turns the led green when it reaches 90%.
I'm sure the dropping from 12% o 0% in seconds cannot be normal, but I'm wondering if the above is a symptom that something is wrong or
if it's normal.
EDIT: Ok, the phone just turned off by itself, the quick drop hapenned as usual (12% to 0% in less than a minute) and the voltage fluctuated between 3,1 and 3,3 volts in the process, maybe even less than 3.1 V, but I'm not sure. I took a series of screen shots 2 seconds apart, I'll post them when I turn the phone on again, I'll let it charge as you suggested.
Yes LED green at 90% is normal. My P6 drops to 99% after 1-2minutes screen on or after a boot without charger.
12% to 0% in seconds is definitely not normal. Normal it goes down very slowly to 3% then it comes a Info and after 30sec it power off.
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heross said:
Yes LED green at 90% is normal. My P6 drops to 99% after 1-2minutes screen on or after a boot without charger.
12% to 0% in seconds is definitely not normal. Normal it goes down very slowly to 3% then it comes a Info and after 30sec it power off.
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Finished charging.
I've turned the phone on and it has been sitting at 100% for about 25 minutes at 4,348V with the screen on. (I even played a video with full brightess). After that it droped to 99% and 4,079V[/B]. That can't be normal.
I saw that the P6 battery is rated 4,35 volts, so i'm not too worried anymore abut that voltage and everyone else seems to have the same values, but this quick drop with 12% and the fact that it stays for so long at 100% does worries me.
The screenshots were taken 2 or 3 seconds apart. It doesn't give me a low battery warning at 15% like most phones, but at 8%
I'm still having this extremely annoying problem. The goddamn battery goes from 12-13% to 0% in a blink of an eye. I just plugged the charger at 8% and it show 0% right after and started charging from there. Voltages are strange too, it shows ~3,6 volts when it started dropping quickly. It has charged ~20% in less than ten minutes. Look at this behavior: sudden voltage drops, never went below 3,3V and dies at 3,6V (almost nominal voltage)
I've tried calibrating several with several methods a few times, I'd prefer to stop doing that since I know it stresses the battery.
Has anyone had this issue? Can someone please shed some light on WTH is wrong with this troublesome phone?
Saw this post now. I have the same problem but it is from 9% to 0% . I don't think it is the battery, i think it is how android reads your battery info. I managed to calibrate mine by charging it when off from 0% to 100%-didn't last for long, the problem appeared once again.
It stays to much at 100% after charging, so we have the same battery life. Might be the kernel, don't know. I home when emui 3.0 is relased comes with a new kernel as well.
mcgyani said:
Saw this post now. I have the same problem but it is from 9% to 0% . I don't think it is the battery, i think it is how android reads your battery info. I managed to calibrate mine by charging it when off from 0% to 100%-didn't last for long, the problem appeared once again.
It stays to much at 100% after charging, so we have the same battery life. Might be the kernel, don't know. I home when emui 3.0 is relased comes with a new kernel as well.
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I also managed to fix it once, I don't remember exactly what I did (I've tried so many things) but it didn't last long either, it discharged normally one time, but the next time dropped from 12% to 0% again in seconds. When will EMUI 3.0 be released?
They said emui 3.0 will be released in the middle of november for p6 but they also said that it will be available for p7 since october -they kept their word and it is available but only for the chinese versions of p7. So i would expect emui 3.0 for p6 in december for the international version.
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They said emui 3.0 will be released in the middle of november for p6 but they also said that it will be available for p7 since october -they kept their word and it is available but only for the chinese versions of p7. So i would expect emui 3.0 for p6 in december for the international version.
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Ok, I think I managed to calibrate it, I'm not sure yet, I will update once the battery is drained so I can see how it behaves at low charge, but there are indications that it's working.
If you're experiencing the same problem as me, then you've probably noticed that after your phone drops quickly from 9% (in your case) to 0% and you plug the charger, the battery will charge up to 9% also very quickly. If this happens, then Android is not reading the battery info right and you'll get a 100% reading before it's actually fully charged, and will keep on charging past that point (which I believe is why it stays at 100% for such a long time). It'll obviously drain from 9% to 0% again once it's discharged - because it's not really at 9%, it's much lower.
So, if we can manage to get Android to display normal charging speeds at low charge, then the battery should be calibrated. This is what I've managed to do.
Here's how:
1. Get a Battery Monitoring App (I use Battery Monitor Widget) and set the update intervals to 1 minute
2. Let your battery drain and your phone turn irself off until you can't turn it on
3. Plug the charger and turn the phone on. Watch how the charge increases in this process, it'll most likely charge too quickly (See graph screenshot - blue arrow: a steep slope indicates quick, abnormal charging speed readings)
4. Wait 5 minutes or until it reaches 10-12%
5. Unplug the charger and let the battery drain again. Watch how it discharges, if it charged too quickly in step 3, it'll most likely discharge quickly too here (You can see in the graph screenshot that the discharging slope in this process is also very steep)
6. When it says it's going to turn itself off in 30 seconds, plug in the charger (don't let it turn off).
7. If the 'turning off' message appeared, say, at 2%, your phone will probably display 0% after you plug the charger (i know this makes no sense, but it happens like that)
8. Let it charge and watch how it's charging.
After doing this my battery charged at a normal rate (Graph screenshot - red arrow) and it behaved normally approaching full charge (current started decreasing approaching 100% - green arrow). It didn't stay for ages in 100% after unplugging the charger either, just 1 hour in deep sleep (2nd and 3rd screenshots), which I think is fine because I used to unplugg the charger at night and wake up to a 100% battery, so it seems Android is reading battery info correctly now.
I hope this works for you too, mate (And that it will last more than one charge cycle).
I'll update tonight with low charge behaviour, but I'm pretty sure it'll discharge normally.
EDIT: It didn't actually eliminate the problem, but it got a little better, it now drops from 7% to 4% (instead of 12-13%) and stays at 4 for a while.