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Correct way to recalibrate/wipe battery stats

Does anyone have a link for the thread that discussed the correct way to wipe battery stats when upgrading to a new Rom? I remember it went something like drain dead, charge to full, drain dead again then charge to full and wipe stats. I can't remember the complete process. Thanks for the help.
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I've seen a couple different threads on that here, one saying discharge fully then charge while powered off, and the other saying to do a full charge "conditioning cycle". I did the latter and it seems to have made a difference.
Here's what I did:
Charge the phone fully with it powered on
When fully charged, disconnect cable
After green LED goes off, power the phone off
When phone is fully powered off, reconnect cable, amber charging light should be on
When LED goes green, disconnect cable
Repeat previous two steps 10 times
After 10th cycle, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I am using Amon Ra recovery which has the wipe battery stats option under the Wipe option. I never did this when I had Clockwork recovery installed, so I don't know if the option is in the same place.
Being an electrical engineer, I find this business of battery conditioning interesting, along with the Ni-Cd "memory" vs. Li-Ion "no memory" issue. If anyone has found a decent physics-based explanation as to why these things do or do not have any basis in fact, I'd appreciate a link. Yes, I'm too lazy to Google it at the moment.

Hmm, I may have to look into this again. I charged my phone all night (powered off) and unplugged it this morning. I did nothing with it this morning but turn it on and look at it, then put it in standby (quick press of power button). It lost 16% of charge in less than 2 hours!
I'm running BS1.2 with the Baked1 (low voltage/best battery) kernel.
Damn, just installed System Panel and found that my CPU is at 100% constantly!

I'm trying this now. The longest I've pushed my battery was 22 hours... and that was with 39 minutes of screen on time, lol. In standby almost the entire 22 hours....

Ok, I believe my issue was related to a camcorder problem, my CPU usage has dropped back to normal levels after fixing that separate problem. After my battery recharges fully I will see what happens with the charge.

the other methods to do "calibrate your battery" (which isnt really calibrating the battery but the battery stats of the phone so it can accuratly judge when it stops and starts charging)
1) charge the phone to full
2) unplug and use phone till it shuts off from no battery (do not plug in until it shuts off)
3) charge phone to full again with out unplugging till 100% (check under about phone > battery it shoudl say full charge there)
this should reset the battery stats.
the last method is one from HTC
1)Charge the phone for 8 hours uninterupted with power on
2) turn off the phone and charge for an additional hour
3) turn ont he phone unplug it and let it sit for 2 minutes then plug it in for an additional hour.
all 3 methods listed should help. I personally dont like the x10 method because it has the potential and basically over charges the battery to make sure it is acctually at a full charge. It is much faster then the other 2 methods though so to each there own.

Dont waste your time on...
plug/unplug 10 times. It really doesn't recal the battery.
the unplug/plug 10 times.
1. Phone on...charge until green light comes on. Immediately unplug and turn phone off.
2. Plug phone back in until green light comes on again. Immediately boot into Recovery and wipe battery stats.
3. Use the phone on battery until dies.
4. recharge phone to 100%
You are good to go!

If I tether during the day (5+ hours) a lot, is it bad on my battery? Isn't that like a constant charge or does once the LED turn green it stops trying to charge?
Thanks.

fldash said:
If I tether during the day (5+ hours) a lot, is it bad on my battery? Isn't that like a constant charge or does once the LED turn green it stops trying to charge?
Thanks.
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the evo doesnt do a trickle charge so when the light turns green it stops, this is why you will almost always drop 1-5% battery rather quickly.

Are you sure? My light has been green for a while, and my phone battery status says 'Full'.

fldash said:
Are you sure? My light has been green for a while, and my phone battery status says 'Full'.
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There's a lot of confusion over how the battery / charging circuit works and how it reports. My advice is to just charge until it's green and full, then unplug it. If you leave it plugged in all night, unplug it for 10 mins in the morning, then plug it back in to top off.

That doesn't really help me SilverZero, my question is only if leaving it tethered (which means connected to USB) is bad for my battery.

Well on mine i would check it every once in awhile and i would see that once it get downs to under 90% that it would charge again till it recognized that it was full again. So based on that i dont think you should have to worry about it. It seems to only draw the charge when needed. I also leave mine plugged in alot when im home so its good to go when i leave and havent noticed a loss of battery life at all.

You guys don't want the charger to trickle charge. Li-Ion does not accept overcharge, even 0.01C (15 mA on the stock Evo battery) will cause it to vent and probably combust.

So does "calibrating the battery" calibrate the phone or the actual battery?
I ask because I have 3 spare batteries, wondering if I have to do this for each of them??? They are all standard size, one of them OEM

(Q) how do you calibrate the G2 battery?

Hey what's up. I got this G2 with the latest cm7, which is build number 21 and the battery life is horrible. Like 8 hours with an hour of the display being on. I'm coming from the Epic which had pretty good battery life once calibrated.
So what's the proper way of calibrating the G2? I am using the stock kernel that comes with the Cm7 rom right now but I did try the pershoot kernel couple times and underclocked it but it still didn't help. I think all that kernel flashing messed up my battery life. So any ideas? Thanks!
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saywhat4118 said:
Hey what's up. I got this G2 with the latest cm7, which is build number 21 and the battery life is horrible. Like 8 hours with an hour of the display being on. I'm coming from the Epic which had pretty good battery life once calibrated.
So what's the proper way of calibrating the G2? I am using the stock kernel that comes with the Cm7 rom right now but I did try the pershoot kernel couple times and underclocked it but it still didn't help. I think all that kernel flashing messed up my battery life. So any ideas? Thanks!
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Charge your phone all the way to 100% (not just until the LED turns green, which is around 90%), unplug and boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, boot back into Android and use your phone until the battery drains and your phone shuts off. Keep trying to power up until it won't any more.
Now, plug your phone in (into the wall, not a computer) and charge until full *without* turning it on. Remember, the LED turns green around 90% so you'll need to leave it another few hours after the LED changes. Once you're full, unplug and boot into Android and again use it until the battery is fully drained and you can't power up anymore and you're good to go.
Remember, after wiping stats, during the draining process *do not* plug it in to the charger or your computer as thiss will mess up the calibration.
Its a pain, and takes a day or so, but its worth it. To speed up the draining process, do some process intensive things (video watching, game playing, etc.)
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OriginalGabriel said:
Charge your phone all the way to 100% (not just until the LED turns green, which is around 90%), unplug and boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, boot back into Android and use your phone until the battery drains and your phone shuts off. Keep trying to power up until it won't any more.
Now, plug your phone in (into the wall, not a computer) and charge until full *without* turning it on. Remember, the LED turns green around 90% so you'll need to leave it another few hours after the LED changes. Once you're full, unplug and boot into Android and again use it until the battery is fully drained and you can't power up anymore and you're good to go.
Remember, after wiping stats, during the draining process *do not* plug it in to the charger or your computer as thiss will mess up the calibration.
Its a pain, and takes a day or so, but its worth it. To speed up the draining process, do some process intensive things (video watching, game playing, etc.)
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Thanks for the tip. Now I have been doing some reading and saw some people recommended charging the phone while it is on when it is fully discharged the first time. You recommend while its off? Does it make a huge difference?

saywhat4118 said:
Thanks for the tip. Now I have been doing some reading and saw some people recommended charging the phone while it is on when it is fully discharged the first time. You recommend while its off? Does it make a huge difference?
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I don't think it would make that big of a difference; if you think about it though, you're dealing with the battery and battery only if the system is turned off.
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True we are dealing with the battery but when we wipe the battery stats I think it only wipes the battery information the phone had in its system. So if we wiped the stats when it is full then let it discharge till completely empty, im assuming, you would have to charge it while its on so the phone can now learn what the battery level is and when its full and its capacity. I'm just guessing I could be wrong though. I'm just going to try both and see what happens.
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OriginalGabriel said:
Charge your phone all the way to 100% (not just until the LED turns green, which is around 90%), unplug and boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, boot back into Android and use your phone until the battery drains and your phone shuts off. Keep trying to power up until it won't any more.
Now, plug your phone in (into the wall, not a computer) and charge until full *without* turning it on. Remember, the LED turns green around 90% so you'll need to leave it another few hours after the LED changes. Once you're full, unplug and boot into Android and again use it until the battery is fully drained and you can't power up anymore and you're good to go.
Remember, after wiping stats, during the draining process *do not* plug it in to the charger or your computer as thiss will mess up the calibration.
Its a pain, and takes a day or so, but its worth it. To speed up the draining process, do some process intensive things (video watching, game playing, etc.)
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I have used this method to calibrate the battery and can say that it does have a pretty big impact on battery life. +/- 20% in my case. I also find that I need to re-calibrate roughly once every month or so.

To be clear, there is not such thing as "calibrating the battery", you are calibrating the battery meter (volt meter) on the phone. Maybe its just a semantic distinction, and that is what the OP and subsequent replies are talking about. But many people get this confused, due to the old process of "conditioning" NiCad batteries, which is not applicable to modern cell phone (Li ion) batteries.
In my understanging, you aren't going to increase battery life by doing any of the above, but only making the battery meter more correctly read how much power is left. For instance, if the meter is not properly calibrated, it may read lower than it should. So people think they are increasing their battery life.
I would discourage from discharging the battery to empty. Over discharge of Li ion batteries can possibly (not often, but in a small percentage of cases) prevent the battery from taking a charge. There is a safety circuit which is supposed to prevent over discharge, but it does not always work. Therefore, Li ion batteries should not be discharged lower then 20% whenever possible. Most of us do it from time to time on accident, but there is not reason to do it intentionally. Charge the battery to 100%, drain to 20%, and repeat a couple times. This will get your battery meter plenty accurate. Draining it to empty does not really gain you anything (the battery meter is not that accurate in the best of circumstances, anyway), and can harm the battery.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
Flashing a new ROM resets the battery meter. So until its properly calibrated, it will give you junk readings. This is one reason why people often jump the gun and think that a custom ROM is getting them poor battery life. Calibrate the meter, and use the ROM for a couple days, then you should get a real indication of what the battery life is like on that ROM.

redpoint73 said:
I would discourage from discharging the battery to empty. Over discharge of Li ion batteries can possibly (not often, but in a small percentage of cases) prevent the battery from taking a charge. There is a safety circuit which is supposed to prevent over discharge, but it does not always work. Therefore, Li ion batteries should not be discharged lower then 20% whenever possible. Most of us do it from time to time on accident, but there is not reason to do it intentionally. Charge the battery to 100%, drain to 20%, and repeat a couple times. This will get your battery meter plenty accurate. Draining it to empty does not really gain you anything (the battery meter is not that accurate in the best of circumstances, anyway), and can harm the battery.
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I was about to post this. Letting a LiIon discharge all the way is more harmful to the battery than recharging it mid drain cycle.

I'm having a bit of battery issues, I haven't flashed a ROM or calibrated my battery meter. So I charge my phone to full while still on, unplug it and drain it until it turns off (NOT until the battery is completely drained, which could potentially damage the battery), plug it up and let it charge while off, and I should be calibrated?

Do you need to have root to be able to reset battery stats?
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[Q] Phone Charging Question

Problem:
I have been reading as many posts as possible but I haven't come across my exact situation. I apologize if this is posted elsewhere.
I am running a rooted Dinc using CyanogenMod 7.0.3. If I charge the phone while it's powered on, the amber led turns green as soon as the battery indicator hits 100%. However, recently I've noticed that if the battery is close to being full, say 90%, and i power it off to charge it, it actually takes longer for the amber led to turn green. It might take 20-30 minutes longer.
I've also noticed the amber light turn green when the indicator only showed 92%. In trying something different I also noticed that if I charge the phone while it's powered on, then turn the phone off, the led goes amber and takes another 20 minutes to turn green again (I might be accidentally bump charging in this example but I'm not sure).
Attempted Solution:
I've read that a battery recalibration might help. I tried one method that requires the battery to be pulled after a full charge, but my phone won't boot while plugged into the wall if there's no battery. Then I tried booting into recovery, where I found an option to reset the battery stats... which I just did about 5 minutes ago.
I'm going to see how things go tomorrow, but is this normal? Has anyone else experienced these things? Thanks.

Logan176 said:
Problem:
I have been reading as many posts as possible but I haven't come across my exact situation. I apologize if this is posted elsewhere.
I am running a rooted Dinc using CyanogenMod 7.0.3. If I charge the phone while it's powered on, the amber led turns green as soon as the battery indicator hits 100%. However, recently I've noticed that if the battery is close to being full, say 90%, and i power it off to charge it, it actually takes longer for the amber led to turn green. It might take 20-30 minutes longer.
I've also noticed the amber light turn green when the indicator only showed 92%. In trying something different I also noticed that if I charge the phone while it's powered on, then turn the phone off, the led goes amber and takes another 20 minutes to turn green again (I might be accidentally bump charging in this example but I'm not sure).
Attempted Solution:
I've read that a battery recalibration might help. I tried one method that requires the battery to be pulled after a full charge, but my phone won't boot while plugged into the wall if there's no battery. Then I tried booting into recovery, where I found an option to reset the battery stats... which I just did about 5 minutes ago.
I'm going to see how things go tomorrow, but is this normal? Has anyone else experienced these things? Thanks.
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The kernel and the hardware charge it in different ways. That's why there are differences. DInc is famous for ending charging before the battery reads full. There's already a thread on that. there's not much point in getting hung up on how that thing charges. Be glad yours isn't like mine; a battery that discharges faster than it charges. Seriously.

loonatik78 said:
The kernel and the hardware charge it in different ways. That's why there are differences. DInc is famous for ending charging before the battery reads full. There's already a thread on that. there's not much point in getting hung up on how that thing charges. Be glad yours isn't like mine; a battery that discharges faster than it charges. Seriously.
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Before I had a fast charge kernel (thanks Chad!) Using GPS with the stock VZW car charger, my battery would go down while it was on the charger!
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On AOSP roms, the LED will turn green at 90% and charge slower from 90%-100%. Perfectly normal, and I think on any rom it will charge slowly from 90%-100% to protect the battery.
The battery will charge further when you turn the phone off, what you described is what's known as bump charging. If you do this, you should notice a slower drop from 100%-90% than usual, because the battery is charged to a "true" 100%. When the phone is on and charging (above 90%), it simply keeps the battery above 90% even if it says it's fully charged, and this is why the inc is notorious for the quick 100%-90% drop.

If you do a bump charge and then clear the battery stats and use the battery calibration app will you need to bump charge again or will it know what the true 100% capacity is and keep the droid lasting longer. Not noticing much of a diffrence when i went from 1300 battery to a 1500. May get a bigger batter that'll fit the stock battery door cause I'm trying to get the best battery life i can get.

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. I think something else that has thrown me off is that before I rooted the phone I wasn't able to see the actual battery percentage in numbers... all I could see was the battery icon. Things are now making more sense.
After recalibrating my battery I bump charged the other day and I was able to get almost 2 days out of my phone on light usage. Without bumping, I was able to end my day yesterday at 50% under my normal usage. Which is a noticeable improvement. Normally I end the day with about 10-20%. The big test will be once I go back to work next week. The cell reception is real spotty in my classroom, which I know makes the cell radio work harder.
Thanks again.

I found a lot of answers I was having about battery charging in this thread:
Your battery gauge is lying to you (and it's not such a bad thing)

[Q] Desire turns off at 10%

Everytime my phone reaches 10%, the phone will shut down itself and it won't turn on again.
i have tried bump charging and calibrating the battery but still without success... anyone got any soulutions other then buying a new battery?
thanks.

Try this: fully charge the phone then let the battery drain completely, until the phone shuts down. Plug the phone into the wall charger, let it charge for a minute or so then turn the phone on while still plugged into the charger and let it charge completely. After a full (100%) charge, the battery indicator should be precise.
I've noticed that if i restart the phone of plug it in after charging, the battery indicator will show an extra 10%, so that's the main reason for the shutdown at or a little below 10%.
This operation should be repeated once a month, just to keep the battery and the battery stats fresh.
Don't wipe battery stats and don't try any other calibration tweaks. They might damage the battery. There are some people here complaining about that.
If the phone still shuts down at 10% after the above-indicated trick, then your battery might be old and in need of replacing, but i wouldn't replace it just because of a 10% indicator error if it can still hold a proper charge.

I have the same problem. I also calibrated my batterie and everything but it still turns off at ~10%.
But since I know that, it's not really a problem

Its always turned off at ~15% for me. I accepted that this was normal. I've seen a lot of posts around but no one seems to of found a proper solution. I actually doubt that there is a proper solution to this.
Punched in..

snq's kernel? I take it is normal with it as none of the GB sense rom managed to come even near the 1-2%. A bug with the kernel probably.
Flashed Oxygen last week - bam, phone turns off at 1%. No calibration was needed even .

Every time this happens to me I charge it 100% then I reset battery stats. Then let it discharge threw normal use then give it a proper charge, plugged into wall charger, not PC.....! And once its 100% ignore green light check it says 100% on the top bar then I unplug. Its normally always sorted then. But I have had to repeat twice in the past.
I also agree about kernal, often after updates it goes bonkers, and I'm on miui, lots of updates
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Mine also used to turn off at ~14%. After using a battery calibrator, i could push it down to 7%. However, on the other "side" of the scale, it goes down qute quickly from 100% to ~92%. All this on GV2.8, and the unofficial ManU kernel 2.1.1.
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Just wipe battery stats in recovery after full discharge if you changed ROM, and then let it charge to 100%.

Used the battery calibrator app (for nexus one) with detailed instructions. Now batt lifeis awesome, turns off at 3%.
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This works great for my Desire, and it turns of at 1%
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240494
Hope it helps!

I had the same issue on my stock Telstra branded rom. Since changing to cyanogenmod it hasn't happened since.
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darwin567 said:
This works great for my Desire, and it turns of at 1%
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240494
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Did the thread move or die, or is the link just wrong?

How to Battery charging

I am bit confused with the battery charging !! Tried to search on xda also. I am using mildwild rom, which is based on CM7.1. The led of my phone goes green as soon as it is 90% charged and stay green even after 100%. I guess that is normal with all Desires. But recently I used and application called "easy battery saver". I noticed that it has 3 charging modes as follows:
1.) Fast charge
2.) Continuous Charge
3.) Trickle Charge
As soon as battery is charged 100%, the mode changes from fast to continuous mode, after 15-30 minutes mode changes to trickle charge. If I use follow this app I get more battery life !!
But question is why does HTC Desire led glow green when the phone is not full charged ??

nksharma74 said:
But question is why does HTC Desire led glow green when the phone is not full charged ??
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The desire when it was completely stock, used to charge to 100%. When it was still plugged in for 2 hours at 100%, it would rapidly depelete the battery back down to 90% and start charging back up to 100%. The light would remain green during this process. You could find if unplugging it in the morning during this cycle, that you only had 90% battery (very annoying).
Anyway, its a legacy in AOSP Roms that they go green at 90%. Its sort of a bug that many people cant be bothered with. There is a fix for it. MildWild implemented it I believe.

rootSU said:
The desire when it was completely stock, used to charge to 100%. When it was still plugged in for 2 hours at 100%, it would rapidly depelete the battery back down to 90% and start charging back up to 100%. The light would remain green during this process. You could find if unplugging it in the morning during this cycle, that you only had 90% battery (very annoying).
Anyway, its a legacy in AOSP Roms that they go green at 90%. Its sort of a bug that many people cant be bothered with. There is a fix for it. MildWild implemented it I believe.
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Its not implemented in my rom i.e. 3.1, can this be flashed over this rom ?

rootSU said:
The desire when it was completely stock, used to charge to 100%. When it was still plugged in for 2 hours at 100%, it would rapidly depelete the battery back down to 90% and start charging back up to 100%. The light would remain green during this process. You could find if unplugging it in the morning during this cycle, that you only had 90% battery (very annoying).
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On my HTC desire ( with stock rom) the led gets green when charging current get lower than 80mA. The charge continue for one hour, then a discharge current of around 120mA takes place until the charge is 99%. Then a new charging cycle starts : this is what generally named as ''Trikle charge''
I never noticed that the trickle charge improve my battery life.

7_michel said:
On my HTC desire ( with stock rom) the led gets green when charging current get lower than 80mA. The charge continue for one hour, then a discharge current of around 120mA takes place until the charge is 99%. Then a new charging cycle starts : this is what generally named as ''Trikle charge''
I never noticed that the trickle charge improve my battery life.
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They may have changed things. When the desire first came out when I got it, it didn't trickle. That's what the rapid deplete was used instead. You could clearly see it in system panel.
Maybe enough people moaned and they addressed this in a software update. But clearly the underlying led issue is still there
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