Correct way to recalibrate/wipe battery stats - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone have a link for the thread that discussed the correct way to wipe battery stats when upgrading to a new Rom? I remember it went something like drain dead, charge to full, drain dead again then charge to full and wipe stats. I can't remember the complete process. Thanks for the help.
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I've seen a couple different threads on that here, one saying discharge fully then charge while powered off, and the other saying to do a full charge "conditioning cycle". I did the latter and it seems to have made a difference.
Here's what I did:
Charge the phone fully with it powered on
When fully charged, disconnect cable
After green LED goes off, power the phone off
When phone is fully powered off, reconnect cable, amber charging light should be on
When LED goes green, disconnect cable
Repeat previous two steps 10 times
After 10th cycle, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I am using Amon Ra recovery which has the wipe battery stats option under the Wipe option. I never did this when I had Clockwork recovery installed, so I don't know if the option is in the same place.
Being an electrical engineer, I find this business of battery conditioning interesting, along with the Ni-Cd "memory" vs. Li-Ion "no memory" issue. If anyone has found a decent physics-based explanation as to why these things do or do not have any basis in fact, I'd appreciate a link. Yes, I'm too lazy to Google it at the moment.

Hmm, I may have to look into this again. I charged my phone all night (powered off) and unplugged it this morning. I did nothing with it this morning but turn it on and look at it, then put it in standby (quick press of power button). It lost 16% of charge in less than 2 hours!
I'm running BS1.2 with the Baked1 (low voltage/best battery) kernel.
Damn, just installed System Panel and found that my CPU is at 100% constantly!

I'm trying this now. The longest I've pushed my battery was 22 hours... and that was with 39 minutes of screen on time, lol. In standby almost the entire 22 hours....

Ok, I believe my issue was related to a camcorder problem, my CPU usage has dropped back to normal levels after fixing that separate problem. After my battery recharges fully I will see what happens with the charge.

the other methods to do "calibrate your battery" (which isnt really calibrating the battery but the battery stats of the phone so it can accuratly judge when it stops and starts charging)
1) charge the phone to full
2) unplug and use phone till it shuts off from no battery (do not plug in until it shuts off)
3) charge phone to full again with out unplugging till 100% (check under about phone > battery it shoudl say full charge there)
this should reset the battery stats.
the last method is one from HTC
1)Charge the phone for 8 hours uninterupted with power on
2) turn off the phone and charge for an additional hour
3) turn ont he phone unplug it and let it sit for 2 minutes then plug it in for an additional hour.
all 3 methods listed should help. I personally dont like the x10 method because it has the potential and basically over charges the battery to make sure it is acctually at a full charge. It is much faster then the other 2 methods though so to each there own.

Dont waste your time on...
plug/unplug 10 times. It really doesn't recal the battery.
the unplug/plug 10 times.
1. Phone on...charge until green light comes on. Immediately unplug and turn phone off.
2. Plug phone back in until green light comes on again. Immediately boot into Recovery and wipe battery stats.
3. Use the phone on battery until dies.
4. recharge phone to 100%
You are good to go!

If I tether during the day (5+ hours) a lot, is it bad on my battery? Isn't that like a constant charge or does once the LED turn green it stops trying to charge?
Thanks.

fldash said:
If I tether during the day (5+ hours) a lot, is it bad on my battery? Isn't that like a constant charge or does once the LED turn green it stops trying to charge?
Thanks.
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the evo doesnt do a trickle charge so when the light turns green it stops, this is why you will almost always drop 1-5% battery rather quickly.

Are you sure? My light has been green for a while, and my phone battery status says 'Full'.

fldash said:
Are you sure? My light has been green for a while, and my phone battery status says 'Full'.
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There's a lot of confusion over how the battery / charging circuit works and how it reports. My advice is to just charge until it's green and full, then unplug it. If you leave it plugged in all night, unplug it for 10 mins in the morning, then plug it back in to top off.

That doesn't really help me SilverZero, my question is only if leaving it tethered (which means connected to USB) is bad for my battery.

Well on mine i would check it every once in awhile and i would see that once it get downs to under 90% that it would charge again till it recognized that it was full again. So based on that i dont think you should have to worry about it. It seems to only draw the charge when needed. I also leave mine plugged in alot when im home so its good to go when i leave and havent noticed a loss of battery life at all.

You guys don't want the charger to trickle charge. Li-Ion does not accept overcharge, even 0.01C (15 mA on the stock Evo battery) will cause it to vent and probably combust.

So does "calibrating the battery" calibrate the phone or the actual battery?
I ask because I have 3 spare batteries, wondering if I have to do this for each of them??? They are all standard size, one of them OEM

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Battery calibration?

Wheres that one thread with the official email response to how to calibrate evo battery? Why isn't that thread stickied? I'm charging my phone right now and I forgot what to do..
If you mean the trick where you charge the phone to 100%, then turn it off, unplug, plug back in until green, unplug, plug back in till green, do that 5 more times, wave your hand over the phone while patting your belly, then unplug and plug in like 10 more times... well thats it
or if you mean battery stat calibration: charge to 100% boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, then reboot and do not plug in till your phone forces a shutdown
this is what your looking for...
elegantai said:
If you mean the trick where you charge the phone to 100%, then turn it off, unplug, plug back in until green, unplug, plug back in till green, do that 5 more times, wave your hand over the phone while patting your belly, then unplug and plug in like 10 more times... well thats it
or if you mean battery stat calibration: charge to 100% boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, then reboot and do not plug in till your phone forces a shutdown
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i think he is talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
elegantai said:
If you mean the trick where you charge the phone to 100%, then turn it off, unplug, plug back in until green, unplug, plug back in till green, do that 5 more times, wave your hand over the phone while patting your belly, then unplug and plug in like 10 more times... well thats it
or if you mean battery stat calibration: charge to 100% boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, then reboot and do not plug in till your phone forces a shutdown
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deonjahy said:
i think he is talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
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1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour
yes also have to try thebatterystatewipe too
How often should you need to calibrate using this method?
elegantai said:
If you mean the trick where you charge the phone to 100%, then turn it off, unplug, plug back in until green, unplug, plug back in till green, do that 5 more times, wave your hand over the phone while patting your belly, then unplug and plug in like 10 more times... well thats it
or if you mean battery stat calibration: charge to 100% boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, then reboot and do not plug in till your phone forces a shutdown
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I think patting my belly was what made my battery last longer
ElAguila said:
How often should you need to calibrate using this method?
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Honestly I wouldn't worry about doing any battery calibration. Battery calibration reminds me of breaking in a barrel on a new rifle. If you talk to 20 different people you will receive 20 different methods of doing the task. Generally if there isn't a single known method with proven results you can attribute the method to the placebo effect.
One thing I always wonder about these battery calibration methods is how the tests were performed. A lot of the time people will claim improved battery life but there is often another explanation for the increase in battery life, they rebooted the phone. If there was a process running amok it could very well have lowered their battery life and rebooting the phone simply killed the process thus improving battery life.
Personally I've never done anything special to calibrate the battery on any device I've owned and I've not have battery life problems. In fact when comparing the battery life of my devices vs. my friends who spent a lot of time calibrating we end up having almost identical time in which we can run on battery.
Just my two cents.
I don't really think it improves the battery so much as it makes it give you a proper reading. Mine can say the battery is down to 30% but it charges really fast. So I think it is an issue of reading the battery level properly.
doesn't charging like this deteriorate battery life? you keep pushing and pushing more volts into your battery. I think its better to do a full charge/discharge cycle a few times a week.
You only do it like this once and not every time. Also I have heard that with the lithium ion batteries you don't want to drain them completely or they may not charge up.
evo4gfan said:
doesn't charging like this deteriorate battery life? you keep pushing and pushing more volts into your battery. I think its better to do a full charge/discharge cycle a few times a week.
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Not with lithium ion. IN fact with li-ion/li-poly batteries, discharging them completely can kill them instantly.
ElAguila said:
I don't really think it improves the battery so much as it makes it give you a proper reading. Mine can say the battery is down to 30% but it charges really fast. So I think it is an issue of reading the battery level properly.
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Exactly. It is all about being able to read the battery at 100 percent when it is actually at 100% that way the meter goes down properly percentage wise and you don't lose 20 percent in the first 10 minutes after you unplug the damn phone lol. But the said method does in fact fix this problem. You should after doing the method listed on my website, or mentioned in the email from htc, see less of a drop after removing the charger.
skydeaner said:
Not with lithium ion. IN fact with li-ion/li-poly batteries, discharging them completely can kill them instantly.
Exactly. It is all about being able to read the battery at 100 percent when it is actually at 100% that way the meter goes down properly percentage wise and you don't lose 20 percent in the first 10 minutes after you unplug the damn phone lol. But the said method does in fact fix this problem. You should after doing the method listed on my website, or mentioned in the email from htc, see less of a drop after removing the charger.
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thanks for clarifying.

[Q] Instant discharge.

So, I'm on my Evo today, playing a game (Air Strike). My battery is at 93% when I picked the phone up to play, and the phone is plugged in. Suddenly, with no warning what-so-ever, my phone shuts off. Of course a mini-freak out and many "wtf's" ensue. No warning, no signs, even the led went off. I pulled the battery, put it back, then plugged the phone in again. After that it gave me the blinking light indicating the battery was too low to turn on. After a few minutes charging she came back on and battery was at 5%.
How the hell does a battery go from 93% to 0% in less than 5 minutes, and give no warning at all?? Anybody else ever have this problem?
Wow I've have never heard or that happening before. Maybe a glitch in the battery stash? Did it take awhile to charge up to 100%? Can you reproduce the issue again?
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I had this problem with my older phone once. The battery itself may have a problem or your phone is not getting charged properly.
Try These :
1) Try charging the phone overnite from the Wall charger (Not through USB of your computer)
2) If the above does not work, and you have access to another evo battery, then try using that.(try using a friends battery and charger for a day. ) (Ofcourse needless to say the charger and battery must be for Evoonly )
In my case, my phone started working fine again after getting my battery & charger replaced.
Probably shouldn't worry about it too much just yet. Could be something as simple as your battery meter was mis-calibrated. The meter itself is software so it can easily be wrong/off. If it continues you may have a bad battery.
Sounds to me like something is wrong. Did you just get the phone or have you had it?
Idk... The phone had been plugged in for most of the day (hadn't gone anywhere. Lazy day lol) And like I said, the led went completely out as well.
Haven't had the problem again, so we'll see I guess....
Mark_Hardware said:
Idk... The phone had been plugged in for most of the day (hadn't gone anywhere. Lazy day lol) And like I said, the led went completely out as well.
Haven't had the problem again, so we'll see I guess....
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I've seen some posts about the Evo battery shutting off the charge when its being used. Were you using your Evo while it was charging?
If the battery doesn't seem to be giving you percentages that are accurate, you might want to recalibrate your battery.
Common misconceptions sticky (Evo Q&A) said:
Battery recalibration (Thanks to Cyanogen for this and to fachadick for bringing it to my attention).
If you're experiencing higher than normal battery drain, try the following:
1. Charge the phone to full battery; let it keep charging until the battery says it is fully charged. Do not just wait until the light is green, it isn't always fully charged, causing a lot of inaccuracies. (You can check by going to: Settings -> About Phone -> Status -> Battery Level = Full.)
2. Boot to recovery and wipe battery stats.
(To have the most accurate of battery stats, reboot the phone immediately after wiping the battery stats and wait for your ROM to boot completely to the desktop. Once your entire boot is done and you have full access to the phone, go ahead and pull the charger and continue.)
3. Do not charge the phone until after draining the battery completely, resulting in it automatically shutting off. Take out the battery, and keep trying to turn on your phone until it will not turn back on at all.
4. Recharge the phone completely and then use as you normally would.
This is a method that has been proven to work, I am sure there are other ways. My battery lasts longer after doing this and the reading is much more accurate. It might be advisable to do this after every ROM install if you want the most battery life and most accurate battery reading by the phone's software.
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[Q] about my battery

ok so i got a problem with my battery
my battery on my phone just going out to fast
for example today
i connected it so it could reload and then
when i disconnected it was 100%
then after 2 hours only that i havnt use the phone i mean havnt touched it even once
i look again on battery life and here it says 36%
and it keep going every day
can some1 tell me why it keep happening???
WOW! That's a major drain in 2hours.
My 2 cents are on a defective battery - since the phone was on standby.
You can try some tutorials on adjusting the power saving settings (like screen brithgness what to turn off and not etc.)
Also you might try caibrate the battery.
there is a thing like u charge it to 100% ,unplug from the charger and turn the phone off ,then plug in again and charge to 100% again... there is a thread about it on this forum, do a lil search it might help u
Dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to battery and find partial wake usage, here the apps are listed that prevent the phone form sleeping and thus causing battery drain. Also check the % under Settings-about phone- battery usage to see what app or process consumed the most battery.
Does it get very hot? I mean - if the battery really contains 1500mAh (which I doubt in this case) and drains completely in 3 hours, that's 500mAh, so 3.5V*0,5A=1,75W continuesly.
You really should notice that while it's in your pocket...
no the phone isnt getting hot
i mean it can sit on my pocket for like 2-3 hours and then it suddenly 3x %
without even touching it
Try these steps:
1. Please connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged.
2. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.
3. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green.
4. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on. Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green.
5. Disconnect the phone, power it on (OPTIONAL: Enter Recovery at this point and Wipe Battery Stats (from Advanced menu), and use it. You need to use this sequence only once.
If that does not solve it you have a defective batterie.
ok i will try it
but can u tell me what the point???
i mean what does it do??
NoneSkillZ said:
ok i will try it
but can u tell me what the point???
i mean what does it do??
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The point of that, is to make the battery life longer. And actually it works. I tried when i bought my phone an the increase was significant!
Edit: Just saw in another thread that some newer custom ROMs has some things messed up, and they eat the battery more than normal when the screen is off. You might take a look at it.
yea i did all the steps and its not working
the battery still going down rapidly
so i should buy new one??
Yeah.
BTW, are you on a stock rom?
srry
no idea what stock rom means
but im on miui rom

[Q] Phone Charging Question

Problem:
I have been reading as many posts as possible but I haven't come across my exact situation. I apologize if this is posted elsewhere.
I am running a rooted Dinc using CyanogenMod 7.0.3. If I charge the phone while it's powered on, the amber led turns green as soon as the battery indicator hits 100%. However, recently I've noticed that if the battery is close to being full, say 90%, and i power it off to charge it, it actually takes longer for the amber led to turn green. It might take 20-30 minutes longer.
I've also noticed the amber light turn green when the indicator only showed 92%. In trying something different I also noticed that if I charge the phone while it's powered on, then turn the phone off, the led goes amber and takes another 20 minutes to turn green again (I might be accidentally bump charging in this example but I'm not sure).
Attempted Solution:
I've read that a battery recalibration might help. I tried one method that requires the battery to be pulled after a full charge, but my phone won't boot while plugged into the wall if there's no battery. Then I tried booting into recovery, where I found an option to reset the battery stats... which I just did about 5 minutes ago.
I'm going to see how things go tomorrow, but is this normal? Has anyone else experienced these things? Thanks.
Logan176 said:
Problem:
I have been reading as many posts as possible but I haven't come across my exact situation. I apologize if this is posted elsewhere.
I am running a rooted Dinc using CyanogenMod 7.0.3. If I charge the phone while it's powered on, the amber led turns green as soon as the battery indicator hits 100%. However, recently I've noticed that if the battery is close to being full, say 90%, and i power it off to charge it, it actually takes longer for the amber led to turn green. It might take 20-30 minutes longer.
I've also noticed the amber light turn green when the indicator only showed 92%. In trying something different I also noticed that if I charge the phone while it's powered on, then turn the phone off, the led goes amber and takes another 20 minutes to turn green again (I might be accidentally bump charging in this example but I'm not sure).
Attempted Solution:
I've read that a battery recalibration might help. I tried one method that requires the battery to be pulled after a full charge, but my phone won't boot while plugged into the wall if there's no battery. Then I tried booting into recovery, where I found an option to reset the battery stats... which I just did about 5 minutes ago.
I'm going to see how things go tomorrow, but is this normal? Has anyone else experienced these things? Thanks.
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The kernel and the hardware charge it in different ways. That's why there are differences. DInc is famous for ending charging before the battery reads full. There's already a thread on that. there's not much point in getting hung up on how that thing charges. Be glad yours isn't like mine; a battery that discharges faster than it charges. Seriously.
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The kernel and the hardware charge it in different ways. That's why there are differences. DInc is famous for ending charging before the battery reads full. There's already a thread on that. there's not much point in getting hung up on how that thing charges. Be glad yours isn't like mine; a battery that discharges faster than it charges. Seriously.
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Before I had a fast charge kernel (thanks Chad!) Using GPS with the stock VZW car charger, my battery would go down while it was on the charger!
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On AOSP roms, the LED will turn green at 90% and charge slower from 90%-100%. Perfectly normal, and I think on any rom it will charge slowly from 90%-100% to protect the battery.
The battery will charge further when you turn the phone off, what you described is what's known as bump charging. If you do this, you should notice a slower drop from 100%-90% than usual, because the battery is charged to a "true" 100%. When the phone is on and charging (above 90%), it simply keeps the battery above 90% even if it says it's fully charged, and this is why the inc is notorious for the quick 100%-90% drop.
If you do a bump charge and then clear the battery stats and use the battery calibration app will you need to bump charge again or will it know what the true 100% capacity is and keep the droid lasting longer. Not noticing much of a diffrence when i went from 1300 battery to a 1500. May get a bigger batter that'll fit the stock battery door cause I'm trying to get the best battery life i can get.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the help. I think something else that has thrown me off is that before I rooted the phone I wasn't able to see the actual battery percentage in numbers... all I could see was the battery icon. Things are now making more sense.
After recalibrating my battery I bump charged the other day and I was able to get almost 2 days out of my phone on light usage. Without bumping, I was able to end my day yesterday at 50% under my normal usage. Which is a noticeable improvement. Normally I end the day with about 10-20%. The big test will be once I go back to work next week. The cell reception is real spotty in my classroom, which I know makes the cell radio work harder.
Thanks again.
I found a lot of answers I was having about battery charging in this thread:
Your battery gauge is lying to you (and it's not such a bad thing)

Charging % difference when phone is off & on

I have a 32GB d855 running 6.0 V30A-ZAF-XX, I put my phone on charge while it was off, charged it until 30% then decided to turn it on, after I booted into marshmallow, suddenly it was saying it is on 57% charge. Does anyone know why and is this a bug which ruins the battery?
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I have a 32GB d855 running 6.0 V30A-ZAF-XX, I put my phone on charge while it was off, charged it until 30% then decided to turn it on, after I booted into marshmallow, suddenly it was saying it is on 57% charge. Does anyone know why and is this a bug which ruins the battery?
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Try calibrating using any 'battery calibration' app. I had this problem which was hence solved.
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Sreerag ag said:
Try calibrating using any 'battery calibration' app. I had this problem which was hence solved.
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Do not use any battery calibration app!!!! It can harm your battery unless it has been proven to work on the G3.
Do this instead:
1. Discharge your phone fully until it turns itself off.
2. Turn it on again and let it turn itself off.
3. Plug your phone into a charger and, without turning it on, let it charge until the on-screen or LED indicator says 100 percent.
4. Unplug your charger.
5. Turn your phone on. It's likely that the battery indicator won't say 100 percent, so plug the charger back in (leave your phone on) and continue charging until it says 100 percent on-screen as well.
6. Unplug your phone and restart it. If it doesn't say 100 percent plug the charger back in until it says 100 percent on screen.
7. Repeat this cycle until it says 100 percent (or as close as you think it's going to get) when you start it up without being plugged in.
8. Now, let your battery discharge all the way down to 0 percent and let your phone turn off again.
9. Fully charge the battery one more time without interruption and you should have reset the Android system's battery percentage.
Remember that it is not recommended to perform this process all the time. Even when your battery is so dead your phone won't even turn on, your battery still has enough reserve charge to avoid system damage. But you don't want to poke the tiger with a stick. Perform this process once every three months at the most. If it is required more often than that you have bigger problems at hand.
Put plainly: fully discharging a battery is bad for it. Trying to overload a battery is also bad for it. The good news is that charging batteries automatically shut off when their safe limit is reached and there's always a little in reserve even if your phone won't start. But again: do this only when really necessary, because it does have a negative impact on battery life.
Guide taken of androidpit.com but it is very effective...
aaronkatrini said:
Do not use any battery calibration app!!!! It can harm your battery unless it has been proven to work on the G3.
Do this instead:
1. Discharge your phone fully until it turns itself off.
2. Turn it on again and let it turn itself off.
3. Plug your phone into a charger and, without turning it on, let it charge until the on-screen or LED indicator says 100 percent.
4. Unplug your charger.
5. Turn your phone on. It's likely that the battery indicator won't say 100 percent, so plug the charger back in (leave your phone on) and continue charging until it says 100 percent on-screen as well.
6. Unplug your phone and restart it. If it doesn't say 100 percent plug the charger back in until it says 100 percent on screen.
7. Repeat this cycle until it says 100 percent (or as close as you think it's going to get) when you start it up without being plugged in.
8. Now, let your battery discharge all the way down to 0 percent and let your phone turn off again.
9. Fully charge the battery one more time without interruption and you should have reset the Android system's battery percentage.
Remember that it is not recommended to perform this process all the time. Even when your battery is so dead your phone won't even turn on, your battery still has enough reserve charge to avoid system damage. But you don't want to poke the tiger with a stick. Perform this process once every three months at the most. If it is required more often than that you have bigger problems at hand.
Put plainly: fully discharging a battery is bad for it. Trying to overload a battery is also bad for it. The good news is that charging batteries automatically shut off when their safe limit is reached and there's always a little in reserve even if your phone won't start. But again: do this only when really necessary, because it does have a negative impact on battery life.
Guide taken of androidpit.com but it is very effective...
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This is an alternate method. The simpler way OS to use the app called 'Battery calibration by NĂ©Ma'. The usage instructions are provided with the app. That is, to full charge it after calibration.
I've did this some times because changing roms sometime cause incorrect battery status. And it have not damaged my phone or battery.
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