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I've searched for an hour and can't find ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0.2.7 for the T989. Anyone have a link?
See here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22852024&postcount=16
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http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
thanks cihkey007 !
I've never tried ROM Manager because, coming from the Optimus V, I know it has caused a lot of semi-bricked phones. I decided to try it for this and it was fast and painless. I now have CWM 5.0.2.7
Just wondering, why isn't there a link for 5.0.2.7 in one of the stickies? Or did I just miss it?
You should try sk8erwitskils recovery. It is a more stable version of touch with swype gestures, volume key support, soft key support, virtual keys, AND it is open source.
CyanModICS said:
You should try sk8erwitskils recovery.
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Thanks, I was reading through that thread this morning but I wasn't sure how stable it was. I haven't had my S2 long enough to learn how easy or difficult it is to recover from flashing a wrong or bad recovery. I know it was a large PITA on the Optimus V.
Looked urgent huh? That's because it is. I see that most people that have their phones bricked is from using ROM manager to install a rom that they downloaded onto their phone.
LISTEN TO ME WHEN I TELL YOU....
Do not use ROM manager to install a custom ROM that is not listed in the application.
I too have bricked my phone this way and I never made a back up. The quickest solution is to actually re-root your phone again by putting it back into download mode.
Look in the forums for instructions. I'm sure others can explain it better than me.
Only use ROM Manager to install clockwork mod recovery.
From there, do it the manual way. It may be more labor, but it is better than bricking your phone.
There are instructions to do that too. If you can't find it just throw me a PM.
Lol I use it all the time to flash roms never bricked
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same here. can you elaborate why you think or provide proof that cwm is bricking peoples phones.
I have used cwm on several phones and never had any problems getting to recovery and flashing roms.
you didn't read his post. he is saying not to use Rom manager to get/install roms
Probably because rom manager only wipes data and cache at most. Most of these roms work best with a super wipe
The touch cwm is the worst. Have to toggle signature verification every time, and point it to the internal sd card. Only one brick (soft), though.
That v5 one is notoriously bad on many phones. Just buggy. Not a dealbreaker for me. Is the other touch one better?
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He's probably referring to the roms listed in ROM manager that are not for our phone.I think there is two of them now
I think we're confusing Rom Manager with Clockwork Mod...
Rom Manager is an app made by koush, its a downloadable market app thats included with Cyanogenmod and other roms (on other phones) that makes it easy to install a ROM without bothering with booting into recovery. I used it extensively during my Nexus days, though on the t989 many roms you have to super wipe or do a lot of advanced things you can only do inside clockwork mod.
ClockworkMod is a recovery manager for your android phone, also made by Koush. The classic version that has been on all phones is the non-touch type, latest version is 5.0.2.7. You use the power button and volume rocker to navigate. There is another version dubbed ClockworkMod Touch, latest version is 5.8 something...you can actually navigate with touchscreen in this.
Many people's problems, I've experienced it too, is that CWM touch likes to reboot randomly during crucial moments (during a backup, MD5 creation, flashing a ROM...), leaving the potential for (and in some cases it actually has) bricked phones. Plus the touchscreen navigation is tempermental, its just not very responsive or accurate. Very dangerous bugs for such a sensitive area on the phone.
So do yourself a favor...use ClockworkMod, the originial. Its not going to kill you to navigate with the volume rocker and power button...it actually makes you pay attention and go slower so you don't make mistakes and push the wrong thing. Its easy to install...with Rom Manager! Download it from the market, when you open it near the top there will be a button to flash the latest ClockworkMod. It will be the non touch type.
As stated above, I wouldn't use the ROM flashing functions of Rom Manager with our phone, but it does have an easy button to reboot into recovery for roms without the option in the shutdown menu. It's the easiest way to flash CWM though.
Hope this helps.
You guys can stop "trippin" there are 2 roms under the dl section in rom manager for our phone DO NOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM FLASH THIS TO YOUR SGH-T989!!! it WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE!!! Somebody just needs to email koush about it so they can be removed. IMHO dl to your phone or pc and then flash away a superwipe is recommended. I for one am iffy with rom manager because it errors out on restores sometimes.
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zander21510 said:
I think we're confusing Rom Manager with Clockwork Mod...
Rom Manager is an app made by koush, its a downloadable market app thats included with Cyanogenmod and other roms (on other phones) that makes it easy to install a ROM without bothering with booting into recovery. I used it extensively during my Nexus days, though on the t989 many roms you have to super wipe or do a lot of advanced things you can only do inside clockwork mod.
ClockworkMod is a recovery manager for your android phone, also made by Koush. The classic version that has been on all phones is the non-touch type, latest version is 5.0.2.7. You use the power button and volume rocker to navigate. There is another version dubbed ClockworkMod Touch, latest version is 5.8 something...you can actually navigate with touchscreen in this.
Many people's problems, I've experienced it too, is that CWM touch likes to reboot randomly during crucial moments (during a backup, MD5 creation, flashing a ROM...), leaving the potential for (and in some cases it actually has) bricked phones. Plus the touchscreen navigation is tempermental, its just not very responsive or accurate. Very dangerous bugs for such a sensitive area on the phone.
So do yourself a favor...use ClockworkMod, the originial. Its not going to kill you to navigate with the volume rocker and power button...it actually makes you pay attention and go slower so you don't make mistakes and push the wrong thing. Its easy to install...with Rom Manager! Download it from the market, when you open it near the top there will be a button to flash the latest ClockworkMod. It will be the non touch type.
As stated above, I wouldn't use the ROM flashing functions of Rom Manager with our phone, but it does have an easy button to reboot into recovery for roms without the option in the shutdown menu. It's the easiest way to flash CWM though.
Hope this helps.
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Holy christ time to flash back to original clockworkmod. Later touch recovery.
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Still rockin the original CWM, never saw all the fuss about the touch stuff. Manually toggling is much safer and reliable IMO
I see that people have mistaken that I was talking about not using CMW. Let me explain. CMW (Clockwork Mod Recovery) and ROM Manager are two different things. You get CMW from ROM Manager. You use CMW to flash ROMs. Some people use ROM Manager to flash ROMs instead of CMW. That's the way you get bricked. By flashing ROM's that aren't on ROM Manager. I hope this clears it up.
I was unaware people still used Rom Manager.....
Thought we upgraded to ODIN, ADB and Heimdall
ROM manager will not brick your phone! If it does get bricked it was user error! Please close this thread
the OP says it bricked his phone, yet then says he flashed back to stock LOL. If your phone is a BRICK it's dead and does NOTHING.
rsfaze said:
the OP says it bricked his phone, yet then says he flashed back to stock LOL. If your phone is a BRICK it's dead and does NOTHING.
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There's also soft brick which can be saved. He was most likely referring to that.
Sharpie603 said:
I was unaware people still used Rom Manager.....
Thought we upgraded to ODIN, ADB and Heimdall
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ODIN is really crappy software IMO.. Despite its uses.
Even rom manager has its uses...I wouldn't use it to flash ROMS, because often with our phones you need more wiping than just data & cache, which is all it can do before it flashes a rom. It however it can be used to easily flash CWM and for phones without the option in the shutdown menu, you can use rom manager to reboot straight into CWM.
Guy's, what he is trying to tell you is that there are 2 ROMS that can be dowloaded and installed by ROM MANAGER that WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE. They are listed as T989 roms but they are actually for the International SGS2....
sbell7105 said:
ROM manager will not brick your phone! If it does get bricked it was user error! Please close this thread
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He's accurate about what he described in this thread. I created a similar thread (probably got deleted) yesterday about the same issue. Just because you haven't experienced bricking yours doesn't mean he shouldn't warn others.
I hard-bricked my T989 just simply trying to boot into recovery (non-touch CWM) from the Rom Manager app...and I have read similar issues. The phone goes fcuking dead.
UPS just dropped off my replacement phone today...ready to be rooted for an ICS AOSP ROM if I can find one. Done with CM7 for now.
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UPS just dropped off my replacement phone today...ready to be rooted for an ICS AOSP ROM if I can find one. Done with CM7 for now.
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There isn't one that fully works with data and audio
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It seems that the ClockworkMod guys just released an official Recovery build for all the GS3 variant including AT&T:
Normal:
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-5.8.4.5-d2att.img
Touch:
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.4.5-d2att.img
I created CWM-flashable ZIPs of these two recoveries (and the Team Epic v4 recovery). You can use those to switch recoveries easily if you want to try these out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28612095&postcount=558
The touch recovery is nice.
works
drothenberger said:
I created CWM-flashable ZIPs of these two recoveries (and the Team Epic v4 recovery). You can use those to switch recoveries easily if you want to try these out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28612095&postcount=558
The touch recovery is nice.
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Touch zip works perfect now rm manager is usable; ) thank u!!
Hey looks like they updated cwm again would you be so kind as to hook us up with another flashable zips
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So flashing the Touch is supposed to have an icon now on the phone? I flashed and CWM did update but no Touch Icon on the phone.
jroyalty7 said:
Hey looks like they updated cwm again would you be so kind as to hook us up with another flashable zips
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Without cwm none of this hacking would have been possible show some support buy the app ....
Yell at me if u want but I won't care cause I'm right ..
jroyalty7 said:
Hey looks like they updated cwm again would you be so kind as to hook us up with another flashable zips
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A couple of issues:
- It seems like ext SDcard support was removed (it was not working on 5.8.4.5 too)
- Backups still have 1970 date
drawde40599 said:
Without cwm none of this hacking would have been possible show some support buy the app ....
Yell at me if u want but I won't care cause I'm right ..
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I agree. When I made the first set of zips I had never used ROM Manager and didn't realize he charged for installing the touchable recovery when flashed through ROM Manager. He says you can do it yourself if you want to download it from his website for free, but I don't think it's right for me to make that any easier.
You can get the regular recovery directly from ROM Manager. That's probably easiest.
Touch doesn't have a working status bar during backup/restore. Leaves you sitting there wondering if anything is going on....if it weren't for the phone heating up one would think its frozen....date is also still screwed up
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Going back to Team Epic CWM v5, until Koush gets ext-sdcard working...
timeToy said:
A couple of issues:
- It seems like ext SDcard support was removed (it was not working on 5.8.4.5 too)
- Backups still have 1970 date
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Call me silly but ext SDcard, u mean external? cause if so it was working on my 5.8.4.5 i just flashed dietics from my external.
Swiftks said:
Going back to Team Epic CWM v5, until Koush gets ext-sdcard working...
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yea works for me on the 5.8.4.5 version.... i just ran a nandroid backup and it went to my external.
djkinetic said:
Call me silly but ext SDcard, u mean external? cause if so it was working on my 5.8.4.5 i just flashed dietics from my external.
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mrRobinson said:
yea works for me on the 5.8.4.5 version.... i just ran a nandroid backup and it went to my external.
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Yeah... but if you update to version 5.8.4.6 (released just an hour ago) it totally removes external sd card support; for zip flashing, backups, restores, etc.
Could have sworn I read somewhere that 5.8.4.5 external sdcard support was broken when restoring a backup???? Don't know why he would have removed it if there was nothing broken... Koush is weird like that though.
Anyway, the Team Epic version has everything working except the date issue, which is also present in koush's builds too.
5.8.4.6 looks like it removed External SD support...wonder why...gonna flash back to .4.5
Made a backup with TeamEpic v4, tried flashing CM9, got a version error, flashed 5.8 Touch CWM, rebooted recovery. Tried to flash backup, error restoring /system. Reflashed the ROM I was running, which seemed to go fine. Rebooted and just stayed in the boot screen for over 10 minutes with the blue light on solid. Used Odin to flash to stock tar, completed successfully, rebooted, sat at boot animation (had the AT&T screen in it) for 10 more minutes. I'm beginning to think I ****ed my phone. Please advise.
yokken said:
Made a backup with TeamEpic v4, tried flashing CM9, got a version error, flashed 5.8 Touch CWM, rebooted recovery. Tried to flash backup, error restoring /system. Reflashed the ROM I was running, which seemed to go fine. Rebooted and just stayed in the boot screen for over 10 minutes with the blue light on solid. Used Odin to flash to stock tar, completed successfully, rebooted, sat at boot animation (had the AT&T screen in it) for 10 more minutes. I'm beginning to think I ****ed my phone. Please advise.
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Turn off your phone and boot into recovery. Doesn't matter if it's stock recovery. Do a data wipe. Then load stock fw again with Odin. You"ll be good.
Dx9 said:
Turn off your phone and boot into recovery. Doesn't matter if it's stock recovery. Do a data wipe. Then load stock fw again with Odin. You"ll be good.
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I cannot get into recovery, I cannot do a data wipe. I told you, even after Odin it just sits at the boot screen.
yokken said:
I cannot get into recovery, I cannot do a data wipe. I told you, even after Odin it just sits at the boot screen.
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So you can't turn off the phone and volume up, home button and power button to get into at least stock recovery? I did the same as you today.
Dx9 said:
So you can't turn off the phone and volume up, home button and power button to get into at least stock recovery? I did the same as you today.
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If I hold them all long enough, it shows Samsung Galaxy S III, then shuts off. If I let go as soon as it vibrates, it just goes into normal boot animation.
Right when Samsung pops up let go of the power button. Try that. The first Samsung Logo that appears
I have always used CWM and currently use the touch version. I have had some problems with CWM lately like the no media mess up with ROM manager. And the other day when going to 4.2. Things I like about TWRP is the keyboard and file manager as well as being able to update to the newest touch recovery through goo manager. So before making the switch from my staple recovery is there anything I should know. I have heard TWRP may have issues with Cyanogen and might be a little slow?
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I still use CWM, it does the job for me. Others swear by TWRP so you're better off trying them both
EddyOS said:
I still use CWM, it does the job for me. Others swear by TWRP so you're better off trying them both
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Same here. Although the /0/ thing has me seriously considering switching to TWRP.
I don't mind trying both but I like all my backups to be easily accessible within my recovery. Plus I don't think I would run into anything for a while and don't want to invest making all my backups in TWRP then find out an issue that someone may have already encountered before me. Sorry of that comes off weird. I started this thread more as an opinion on what converts maybe like or dislike about TWRP.
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I've had CWM for a long time(since the galaxy S days) but when i got my gnex off on ebay, It had the TWRP recovery installed, after trying it I decided that I will never go back to CWM. It's just a matter of user preference really, for all those years that I've used CWM I've never had any single issues with it. I can say the same for TWRP after using it for almost a year now.
Few things I love about TWRP:
-Swipe to confirm Install
-Full touch screen with big buttons(i know CWM has touch screen version too but I was only able to try the semi touch screen version and did not really like it)
-File Manager
-Ability to compress(don't know if CWM can do this but I've included it too) and rename/name backups
-You can queue the zips you want to install(maximum of 10), no more going back and forth between sdcard directories and recovery menus
Those are the ones that I could think of at the moment. I'm sure there's a lot more else to list down. If you ask me TWRP is a bit more user friendly because of the UI
Just switched to TWRP a couple of months ago, after having always used CWM. No real issues with CWM. I have just found TWRP to be more user friendly for me.
TWRP have more features than CWM, for example, file managing and the ability to name backups. Thats a great advantage if you ask me.
Recently switched to TWRP. Loving it so far. I especially like the Advanced -> ADB Sideload function so I can superwipe and flash without worrying about the internal storage.
I've always used CWM, but like others, because of /0/, I'm considering trying twrp. I just made a backup with CWM 6.0.1.9, but now that i've found it, i'm unsure of how to copy it to my computer. That is, my mac recognizes /data/media/0 via android file transfer, but i cannot transfer the backup from here. And I really dont want to move the backup and blobs folders twice just for the sake of copying. Any ideas? Also, whatever happened to navbar arrows in cwm touch?
I switched to TWRP because of the excessive number of blobs made by CWM.
It's a real pain having to copy over 2,000 files and folders over MTP to a computer.
I like to keep the most recent backup on my Gnex, while moving the older backups to my computer.
Consider this. I used cwr on my droid X and it worked fine. The day I got my Gnex and rooted it I ignored CWR and immediately installed TWRP. Never looked back. I always hear people say "I switched from CWR to TWRP and its great". Not once have I heard it the other way
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arrrghhh's TWRP Q 2610 in my goodies.
Until Matt takes care of the 2.6 fix this is our best recovery for 4.3 roms. It is really not that hard to anticipate where to touch & you can touch & hold without activating a button to know where to touch.
Use with TWRP MANAGER is flawless!
Screen input requires the mirror of the buttons.
For normal use it only works if choosen from bootloader (abort to bootloader w/keys).
I am uploading the very zip from the twrp mounted SD while the phone is in recovery. BE CAREFULL....
Dim Screen perks up on after a time out.
Naming a BU in recovery-Impossible.
But twrp manager makes homescreen batch operation easy, SD usb mounting & 4.3 ready....
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The XT925/926 twrp can handle the needs of the new kernels.
Edit up'ed to goodies pg 2.
Update Twrp Mgr works well with the blind xt926 recovery!
Be sure to choose ext SD.
Use twrp mgr. For "remote control operation".:laugh:
Source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44930132&postcount=134
I can up a twrp flashable ver & it works but only from twrp manager- batch mode. The 926 graphics bork it for normal use.
Source: http://goo.im/devs/Hashcode/vanquish/twrp-2.6.0.0-recovery-vanquish.img
aviwdoowks said:
The XT925/926 twrp can handle the needs of the new kernels.
Edit up'ed to goodies pg 2.
Update Twrp Mgr works well with the blind xt926 recovery!
Be sure to choose ext SD.
Use twrp mgr. For "remote control operation".:laugh:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44930132&postcount=134
I can up a twrp flashable ver & it works but only from twrp manager- batch mode. The 926 graphics bork it for normal use.
Source: http://goo.im/devs/Hashcode/vanquish/twrp-2.6.0.0-recovery-vanquish.img
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Its a lot easier to use cwm or cwm touch or ouds that are actually built for our phone. Not to mention a lot safer.
ej1911 said:
Its a lot easier to use cwm or cwm touch or ouds that are actually built for our phone. Not to mention a lot safer.
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These phones are siblings & this is a work around to have a working recovery for cm 4.3. The xt907 ver will not work!
All of the newer cwm variants work with 4.3. And they all have full graphical functionality with our phone.
I can't understand why you wouldn't recommend a solution that offers a fully working user interface when several exist.
ej1911 said:
All of the newer cwm variants work with 4.3. And they all have full graphical functionality with our phone.
I can't understand why you wouldn't recommend a solution that offers a fully working user interface when several exist.
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In the above post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44930132&postcount=134
Yes, I have seen that. It still does not answer the question of why you recommend a hacked up solution with TWRP when a much cleaner solution with CWM is available.
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ej1911 said:
Yes, I have seen that. It still does not answer the question of why you recommend a hacked up solution with TWRP when a much cleaner solution with CWM is available.
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The same reason I use rom manager on our M.
It is very handy.
Xt897 stock recovery is way better than ours.
Handy.
I backed up from the home screen & then restored from home screen with the xt926 ver.
Some posters on rzr could not get our recovery to succeed w/ 907 versions.
I don't claim to be an expert. I have been playing with Android since 1.6, and have been using UNIX and Linux based systems for over 2 decades, so I do have a decent working knowledge.
In that time, most of the expensive devices that I have seen turned into paperweights were caused by either using incorrect tools or using the correct tools without fully understanding how to use them.
I'm not trying to get into an argument, but I would suggest any user that has an interest in modifying their device learn how to use the tools that are required to do so. A working knowledge of fastboot, adb, basic Linux commands, factory and aftermarket recoveries, and RSD(or the manufacturers flashing tool for your device is the bare minimum anyone should have before rooting.
As far as 4.3 recoveries, I highly recommend switching to CWM at this point before playing. Dhacker has some available to download or you can build the newest (regular and touch) at the cwm builder site.
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Be careful. I forgot this was my recovery & started to do a 2 step from twrp mgr. Backup & flash the miui alpha! In a panic I used the keys to abort.
arrrghhh's TWRP Q 2610 in my goodies.
Until Matt takes care of the 2.6 fix this is our best recovery for 4.3 roms. It is really not that hard to anticipate where to touch & you can touch & hold without activating a button to know where to touch.
Use with TWRP MANAGER is flawless!
Screen input requires the mirror of the buttons.
For normal use it only works if choosen from bootloader (abort to bootloader w/keys).
I am uploading the very zip from the twrp mounted SD while the phone is in recovery. BE CAREFULL....
Dim Screen perks up on after a time out.
Naming a BU in recovery-Impossible.
But twrp manager makes homescreen batch operation easy, SD usb mounting & 4.3 ready....