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Again my apologizes in advance for these questions but I am struggling to sort through all of the threads & determine the best course of action.
I went through this one step root process for my Samsung Epic: SDX-Deverlopers forms. Can't post link due to noobieness. If you good to their website the thread is titled "Author Topic: One click root for the Epic 4G! v2.3.0 Now has Superuser.apk!" first post dated August 31, 2010, 11:23:06 AM.
Now that this has been complete I am trying to do a couple of things.
- First I want to move apps to my sdcard. Since I am on version 2.1 this does not seem to work. Is there a work around on this?
In doing some reading it seems that one of the main suggestions to do once you root your phone is to create a backup so that you can try other mods while not losing everything. The app Rom Manager is suggested however I am uncertain if this is the preferred method for EPIC.
What can I do with the Superuser app?
Since I am the ultimate noob here if anyone would like to provide suggestions on roms & other things that they have done with their rooted EPIC that they have found to work well & be worth while I would greatly appreciate the feedback.
Again my apologizes for being such a noob however I will with your help pick up on this relatively quickly. Thanks!
TheKid707 said:
Again my apologizes in advance for these questions but I am struggling to sort through all of the threads & determine the best course of action.
I went through this one step root process for my Samsung Epic: SDX-Deverlopers forms. Can't post link due to noobieness. If you good to their website the thread is titled "Author Topic: One click root for the Epic 4G! v2.3.0 Now has Superuser.apk!" first post dated August 31, 2010, 11:23:06 AM.
Now that this has been complete I am trying to do a couple of things.
- First I want to move apps to my sdcard. Since I am on version 2.1 this does not seem to work. Is there a work around on this?
In doing some reading it seems that one of the main suggestions to do once you root your phone is to create a backup so that you can try other mods while not losing everything. The app Rom Manager is suggested however I am uncertain if this is the preferred method for EPIC.
What can I do with the Superuser app?
Since I am the ultimate noob here if anyone would like to provide suggestions on roms & other things that they have done with their rooted EPIC that they have found to work well & be worth while I would greatly appreciate the feedback.
Again my apologizes for being such a noob however I will with your help pick up on this relatively quickly. Thanks!
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Firstly, thanks for posting in the right section...
The one click root has been updated many times since th one you've downloaded, the latest version is 2.5.5, and includes flashing clockworkmod, which you can boot into to perform backups ad restores, as well as flash custom ROMs to the phone.
Superuser.apk is an app whose sole purpose is to ask your permission for a root privileged app to run. It is a safety precaution so that rogue apps don't use root privileges without your knowledge.
There are many ROMs to choose from, but the major decision for you is whether or not to run Froyo, which is still beta and unofficial. If you wish to run Froyo, you'll need to use the Windows program Odin in combination with a DK28 tar that updates the phone to Froyo.
Whether or not you stick with Android 2.1 (Eclair) or 2.2 (Froyo) is up to you, there are good ROMs for both versions. Before making any changes, it is always a good idea to backup any important data, as a lot of ROMs will require a data wipe to function correctly.
I would highly recommend reading the xda Epic wiki, and you'll find a lot of info and links there.
Good luck, and welcome to the community.
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Drockstar had some good info.
To answer a few questions:
2.1 can not install app to SD. You need 2.2
Yes, 2.3 is an old cwm. 2.5 is in the epic wiki. Gves you root and cwm 2.5. You need to Odin to stock dk28, then use one click root in order to install custom roms tha run on froyo.
You should backup in cwm before using odin. So that you can save your apps and data. Once you odin and root, you can go int advanced restore to get your apps back with their settings. I use titanium backup along with cwm for backing up. Works great for me. Like Drockstar said, the wiki has everything you need. Just follow the instructions step by step. Also, randy shear has a ton of youtube vids giving how-tos and demos. You might want to check out his vids.
TheKid707 said:
Again my apologizes in advance for these questions but I am struggling to sort through all of the threads & determine the best course of action.
I went through this one step root process for my Samsung Epic: SDX-Deverlopers forms. Can't post link due to noobieness. If you good to their website the thread is titled "Author Topic: One click root for the Epic 4G! v2.3.0 Now has Superuser.apk!" first post dated August 31, 2010, 11:23:06 AM.
Now that this has been complete I am trying to do a couple of things.
- First I want to move apps to my sdcard. Since I am on version 2.1 this does not seem to work. Is there a work around on this?
In doing some reading it seems that one of the main suggestions to do once you root your phone is to create a backup so that you can try other mods while not losing everything. The app Rom Manager is suggested however I am uncertain if this is the preferred method for EPIC.
What can I do with the Superuser app?
Since I am the ultimate noob here if anyone would like to provide suggestions on roms & other things that they have done with their rooted EPIC that they have found to work well & be worth while I would greatly appreciate the feedback.
Again my apologizes for being such a noob however I will with your help pick up on this relatively quickly. Thanks!
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Ok - thx! In order to update to the most current one click as shown on this forum under the article title: One Click Root & Recovery for the Epic 4G! v2.5.5 Now has ClockworkMod Redirector!
Would I need to uninstall the old version of the one click root that I have or should I just install as I did with that one for v2.5.5?
Thanks again!
You need to Odin to stock, then use the one click. Again, backup in cwm before you odin to stock so you don't lose your apps and settings
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Ok - thx! In order to update to the most current one click as shown on this forum under the article title: One Click Root & Recovery for the Epic 4G! v2.5.5 Now has ClockworkMod Redirector!
Would I need to uninstall the old version of the one click root that I have or should I just install as I did with that one for v2.5.5?
Thanks again!
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You need to Odin to stock, then use the one click. Again, backup in cwm before you odin to stock so you don't lose your apps and settings
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When you say backup in cwm what program is that referring to. Do you mean ClockworkMod Launcher? I have ROM Manager & Titanium backup. Once I ODIN how would I restore? Thx!
I'm referring to backing up via cwm. You should restore only after you have the setup you want. If you are flashing a rom, restore after you have flashed the rom
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I'm referring to backing up via cwm. You should restore only after you have the setup you want. If you are flashing a rom, restore after you have flashed the rom
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RTD, I do not understand what you mean by backing up via cwm. Can you walk me through it? If I can get past backing out the old root I can follow the wiki instructions the rest of the way. Thanks for your help.
Go into recovery mode. You should see an option to backup. Just check out Randy Shear's youtube vids. He makes it really easy.
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Go into recovery mode. You should see an option to backup. Just check out Randy Shear's youtube vids. He makes it really easy.
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Everyone I am struggling on this. When I shutdown then after shutdown hold down on start, down vol & camera buttons I get the recovery mode however I only have four options as follows:
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
What am I doing wrong as I need to find the backup option. Also what would the update.zip be?
Very frustrating...I just need to get this old root out & then it will be smooth sailing. Thx again everyone!
You're not rooted, that is the default recovery not clockworkmod
Cwm = clockwork recovery mod
Open rom manager and see if you have option to flash recovery at the top. Once you do that you should be able to get into cwm recovery.
To the guy above, just cause you don't have cwm doesn't mean your not rooted
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If your phone is rooted and you've downloaded rom manager and flashed cwm recovery then shut your phone off. Then hold the power button + camera button + volume down. This will take you to the cwm recovery. I kept getting the normal blue recovery until I read that I had to shut my phone off and hold those three buttons. Even under cwm when I pressed reboot into recovery I went to the normal blue one. You need to press those three to get to the cwm recovery.
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rocket321 said:
Cwm = clockwork recovery mod
Open rom manager and see if you have option to flash recovery at the top. Once you do that you should be able to get into cwm recovery.
To the guy above, just cause you don't have cwm doesn't mean your not rooted
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I went into ROM Manager (free edition) and the top option is available (Flash ClockworkMod Recovery). I clicked on it and it says "Successfully downloaded ClockworkMod recovery! When I then select 'Reboot into Recovery' it takes me to a prompt that gives me the following options:
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
Also below that it says:
-- Install from package...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted.
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Someone suggested that I find a stand alone clockwork in the dev section. After looking over there I am uncertain which one to use & I do not want to grab the wrong one & brick my phone. If anyone could provide a link to a stand alone clockwork (& believes that is the best course of action) pls send it to me as a pm if it will not allow you to post on the forum.
Again I am sorry for clogging the board up with this however I am stuck. Once I get the clockworkmod setup & then ODIN I will be on my way. Thanks again!
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If your phone is rooted and you've downloaded rom manager and flashed cwm recovery then shut your phone off. Then hold the power button + camera button + volume down. This will take you to the cwm recovery. I kept getting the normal blue recovery until I read that I had to shut my phone off and hold those three buttons. Even under cwm when I pressed reboot into recovery I went to the normal blue one. You need to press those three to get to the cwm recovery.
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Thank you for the suggestion. I have tried this & it takes me to the blue backup screen as you mention. I need help finding a stand alone download for clockworkmod to try to fix my mess up.
You could put the 1-click root w/ cwm on top of the root you already have. I remember reading that it can royally screw your phone though. Its hit or miss. I personally wouldn't do it.
If you don't care too much about losing settings and saves (like game progress or settings on an app), you may just want to flash odin, do the one-click root w/ cwm and flash a rom.
I have found that backup apps like titanium and my backup are a little spotty with their data restoration capabilities. Nandroid, which is the backup/restore used in cwm is the best.
You could try to backup using my backup before you flash odin. No promises that you will be able to restore all of your data (apps, game progress and settings) with my backup though.
The reboot to recovery option doesn't work on 2.1, you have to power off and use vol down, camera, power. Now that you installed recovery from rom manager it should work.
Edit, to be clear, if you select reboot recover on 2.1 it goes to samsung recovery. If you power off and then hold the 3 buttons you'll get cwm recovery since you flashed it in rom manager.
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rocket321 said:
The reboot to recovery option doesn't work on 2.1, you have to power off and use vol down, camera, power. Now that you installed recovery from rom manager it should work.
Edit, to be clear, if you select reboot recover on 2.1 it goes to samsung recovery. If you power off and then hold the 3 buttons you'll get cwm recovery since you flashed it in rom manager.
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Unfortunately even after flashing cwm & then restart (after shutdown) with the power, down vol & camera button I am still getting the blue recovery screen. Perhaps applying the update.zip would give me the cwm? Would anyone suggest applying update.zip?
If this doesn't work I will just ODIN & set every back up again so as not to waste more of everyones time on here. Again many thanks to everyone for pointing me in the right direction.
I'd try running the 2.5.5 root first, if it works great, if not you'll have to odin but you were gonna do that anyway.
You might want to install odin and the samsung drivers and verify it can see your phone before anything has the chance to go wrong, that way you know you are ready to fix any problem that might come up.
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One more question... In regards to doing ODIN do I need to have anything special selected i.e. enable USB debugging or checking Unknown sources (allow install of non-market applications)?
Are there any other things I need to think about or setup aside from the phones drivers prior to ODIN?
Looked urgent huh? That's because it is. I see that most people that have their phones bricked is from using ROM manager to install a rom that they downloaded onto their phone.
LISTEN TO ME WHEN I TELL YOU....
Do not use ROM manager to install a custom ROM that is not listed in the application.
I too have bricked my phone this way and I never made a back up. The quickest solution is to actually re-root your phone again by putting it back into download mode.
Look in the forums for instructions. I'm sure others can explain it better than me.
Only use ROM Manager to install clockwork mod recovery.
From there, do it the manual way. It may be more labor, but it is better than bricking your phone.
There are instructions to do that too. If you can't find it just throw me a PM.
Lol I use it all the time to flash roms never bricked
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same here. can you elaborate why you think or provide proof that cwm is bricking peoples phones.
I have used cwm on several phones and never had any problems getting to recovery and flashing roms.
you didn't read his post. he is saying not to use Rom manager to get/install roms
Probably because rom manager only wipes data and cache at most. Most of these roms work best with a super wipe
The touch cwm is the worst. Have to toggle signature verification every time, and point it to the internal sd card. Only one brick (soft), though.
That v5 one is notoriously bad on many phones. Just buggy. Not a dealbreaker for me. Is the other touch one better?
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He's probably referring to the roms listed in ROM manager that are not for our phone.I think there is two of them now
I think we're confusing Rom Manager with Clockwork Mod...
Rom Manager is an app made by koush, its a downloadable market app thats included with Cyanogenmod and other roms (on other phones) that makes it easy to install a ROM without bothering with booting into recovery. I used it extensively during my Nexus days, though on the t989 many roms you have to super wipe or do a lot of advanced things you can only do inside clockwork mod.
ClockworkMod is a recovery manager for your android phone, also made by Koush. The classic version that has been on all phones is the non-touch type, latest version is 5.0.2.7. You use the power button and volume rocker to navigate. There is another version dubbed ClockworkMod Touch, latest version is 5.8 something...you can actually navigate with touchscreen in this.
Many people's problems, I've experienced it too, is that CWM touch likes to reboot randomly during crucial moments (during a backup, MD5 creation, flashing a ROM...), leaving the potential for (and in some cases it actually has) bricked phones. Plus the touchscreen navigation is tempermental, its just not very responsive or accurate. Very dangerous bugs for such a sensitive area on the phone.
So do yourself a favor...use ClockworkMod, the originial. Its not going to kill you to navigate with the volume rocker and power button...it actually makes you pay attention and go slower so you don't make mistakes and push the wrong thing. Its easy to install...with Rom Manager! Download it from the market, when you open it near the top there will be a button to flash the latest ClockworkMod. It will be the non touch type.
As stated above, I wouldn't use the ROM flashing functions of Rom Manager with our phone, but it does have an easy button to reboot into recovery for roms without the option in the shutdown menu. It's the easiest way to flash CWM though.
Hope this helps.
You guys can stop "trippin" there are 2 roms under the dl section in rom manager for our phone DO NOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM FLASH THIS TO YOUR SGH-T989!!! it WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE!!! Somebody just needs to email koush about it so they can be removed. IMHO dl to your phone or pc and then flash away a superwipe is recommended. I for one am iffy with rom manager because it errors out on restores sometimes.
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zander21510 said:
I think we're confusing Rom Manager with Clockwork Mod...
Rom Manager is an app made by koush, its a downloadable market app thats included with Cyanogenmod and other roms (on other phones) that makes it easy to install a ROM without bothering with booting into recovery. I used it extensively during my Nexus days, though on the t989 many roms you have to super wipe or do a lot of advanced things you can only do inside clockwork mod.
ClockworkMod is a recovery manager for your android phone, also made by Koush. The classic version that has been on all phones is the non-touch type, latest version is 5.0.2.7. You use the power button and volume rocker to navigate. There is another version dubbed ClockworkMod Touch, latest version is 5.8 something...you can actually navigate with touchscreen in this.
Many people's problems, I've experienced it too, is that CWM touch likes to reboot randomly during crucial moments (during a backup, MD5 creation, flashing a ROM...), leaving the potential for (and in some cases it actually has) bricked phones. Plus the touchscreen navigation is tempermental, its just not very responsive or accurate. Very dangerous bugs for such a sensitive area on the phone.
So do yourself a favor...use ClockworkMod, the originial. Its not going to kill you to navigate with the volume rocker and power button...it actually makes you pay attention and go slower so you don't make mistakes and push the wrong thing. Its easy to install...with Rom Manager! Download it from the market, when you open it near the top there will be a button to flash the latest ClockworkMod. It will be the non touch type.
As stated above, I wouldn't use the ROM flashing functions of Rom Manager with our phone, but it does have an easy button to reboot into recovery for roms without the option in the shutdown menu. It's the easiest way to flash CWM though.
Hope this helps.
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Holy christ time to flash back to original clockworkmod. Later touch recovery.
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Still rockin the original CWM, never saw all the fuss about the touch stuff. Manually toggling is much safer and reliable IMO
I see that people have mistaken that I was talking about not using CMW. Let me explain. CMW (Clockwork Mod Recovery) and ROM Manager are two different things. You get CMW from ROM Manager. You use CMW to flash ROMs. Some people use ROM Manager to flash ROMs instead of CMW. That's the way you get bricked. By flashing ROM's that aren't on ROM Manager. I hope this clears it up.
I was unaware people still used Rom Manager.....
Thought we upgraded to ODIN, ADB and Heimdall
ROM manager will not brick your phone! If it does get bricked it was user error! Please close this thread
the OP says it bricked his phone, yet then says he flashed back to stock LOL. If your phone is a BRICK it's dead and does NOTHING.
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the OP says it bricked his phone, yet then says he flashed back to stock LOL. If your phone is a BRICK it's dead and does NOTHING.
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There's also soft brick which can be saved. He was most likely referring to that.
Sharpie603 said:
I was unaware people still used Rom Manager.....
Thought we upgraded to ODIN, ADB and Heimdall
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ODIN is really crappy software IMO.. Despite its uses.
Even rom manager has its uses...I wouldn't use it to flash ROMS, because often with our phones you need more wiping than just data & cache, which is all it can do before it flashes a rom. It however it can be used to easily flash CWM and for phones without the option in the shutdown menu, you can use rom manager to reboot straight into CWM.
Guy's, what he is trying to tell you is that there are 2 ROMS that can be dowloaded and installed by ROM MANAGER that WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE. They are listed as T989 roms but they are actually for the International SGS2....
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ROM manager will not brick your phone! If it does get bricked it was user error! Please close this thread
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He's accurate about what he described in this thread. I created a similar thread (probably got deleted) yesterday about the same issue. Just because you haven't experienced bricking yours doesn't mean he shouldn't warn others.
I hard-bricked my T989 just simply trying to boot into recovery (non-touch CWM) from the Rom Manager app...and I have read similar issues. The phone goes fcuking dead.
UPS just dropped off my replacement phone today...ready to be rooted for an ICS AOSP ROM if I can find one. Done with CM7 for now.
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UPS just dropped off my replacement phone today...ready to be rooted for an ICS AOSP ROM if I can find one. Done with CM7 for now.
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There isn't one that fully works with data and audio
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Hey guys, I was thinking of switching to a touch recovery but have heard
Bad things about them. So my question is what is the simplest way to put on phone.
And can I switch back to cwm if I don't like it?
edshawn911 said:
Hey guys, I was thinking of switching to a touch recovery but have heard
Bad things about them. So my question is what is the simplest way to put on phone.
And can I switch back to cwm if I don't like it?
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sk8erwitskil's 6.0.1.2. touch is great just flash zip through recovery and yes you can go back to non-touch no problem i have done it more than once.
Just download goomanager from market hit menu and install recoveryscript to get the latest TWRP2.2.2
Sorry if this was posted, the SGSII is active and sort of cluttered so its hard to find which one is what.
The question: So I successfully flashed, gained root, and got a custom recovery for my friends SGSII. Whenever I try to flash a ROM, like CyanogenMod 9 or MIUI.us it get stuck at boot, and yes I am on ICS. I also heard that the CWM Recovery for this phone is messed up, so can anyone fill me on that? Is there a special thing I have to do before flashing a ROM? Do I have to use TWRP instead of CWMR?
CWM Recovery version: 5.0.2.7
Android OS: ICS 4.0.4
SGSII Version: T-Mobile
th3controller said:
Sorry if this was posted, the SGSII is active and sort of cluttered so its hard to find which one is what.
The question: So I successfully flashed, gained root, and got a custom recovery for my friends SGSII. Whenever I try to flash a ROM, like CyanogenMod 9 or MIUI.us it get stuck at boot, and yes I am on ICS. I also heard that the CWM Recovery for this phone is messed up, so can anyone fill me on that? Is there a special thing I have to do before flashing a ROM? Do I have to use TWRP instead of CWMR?
CWM Recovery version: 5.0.2.7
Android OS: ICS 4.0.4
SGSII Version: T-Mobile
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Yes try TWRP it never let's me down... make sure you wipe too!
iNeedICS said:
make sure you wipe too!
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Thats what my mother always says!
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Thats what my mother always says!
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Yes but in real life it unnecessary
I was having some problems too until I realized that I was using an ancient version of CWM. Flashed a newer CWM Touch and all was well after that - I was able to to perform a successful wipe and flash of CM10 - everything just worked perfectly after that.
Let me get this straight...
Flash TWRP
Use TWRP to flash Super Wipe
Flash a ROM
... and enjoy ROM?
Did I get it right?
I don't understand and believe me I'm not complaining but I have cwr5027 and use dark side scripts all the time and never have problems.
Is it just a matter of time? I flash often...very often.
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Thank you guys! I cannot hold my gratitude so I have to post a thanks to those who have helped! TWRP is the best alternative recovery
I have now successfully flashed CM9.1 and my friend will be very happy indeed with the bloat gone and the pure ICS feel!
Hey,
I currently use CWM Recovery (Mainly because I've used CWM on every Android device I've owned so I'm comfortable with it) but I want to keep my hardware buttons in good condition and on my last devices the power button and volume buttons took quite a beating as I flash ROMs regularly so switching to Touch Recovery seems logical! Just wondering if my Nandroid back-ups from CWM will be compatible with Touch? And can I mount USB storage on Touch Recovery?
Thanks
I've never used CWM for the HOV, so Idk if they're compatible... I wanna say no... but I think I read that somewhere, but anyway I really like TWRP it's awesome and easy to use and looks kool too. Also, yes you can mount usb storage in TWRP which makes flashing pretty easy
TWRP is the best one i have found. CWM for some reason did not work on my HOV. and yes twrp does give you the option of mount while in recovery. and is touchscreen
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Hey,
I currently use CWM Recovery (Mainly because I've used CWM on every Android device I've owned so I'm comfortable with it) but I want to keep my hardware buttons in good condition and on my last devices the power button and volume buttons took quite a beating as I flash ROMs regularly so switching to Touch Recovery seems logical! Just wondering if my Nandroid back-ups from CWM will be compatible with Touch? And can I mount USB storage on Touch Recovery?
Thanks
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This post may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36991269&postcount=107
CurtisAndroid5 said:
Hey,
I currently use CWM Recovery (Mainly because I've used CWM on every Android device I've owned so I'm comfortable with it) but I want to keep my hardware buttons in good condition and on my last devices the power button and volume buttons took quite a beating as I flash ROMs regularly so switching to Touch Recovery seems logical! Just wondering if my Nandroid back-ups from CWM will be compatible with Touch? And can I mount USB storage on Touch Recovery?
Thanks
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Go for twrp... it's excellent
Hit thanks if I helped u!!!