Looked urgent huh? That's because it is. I see that most people that have their phones bricked is from using ROM manager to install a rom that they downloaded onto their phone.
LISTEN TO ME WHEN I TELL YOU....
Do not use ROM manager to install a custom ROM that is not listed in the application.
I too have bricked my phone this way and I never made a back up. The quickest solution is to actually re-root your phone again by putting it back into download mode.
Look in the forums for instructions. I'm sure others can explain it better than me.
Only use ROM Manager to install clockwork mod recovery.
From there, do it the manual way. It may be more labor, but it is better than bricking your phone.
There are instructions to do that too. If you can't find it just throw me a PM.
Lol I use it all the time to flash roms never bricked
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same here. can you elaborate why you think or provide proof that cwm is bricking peoples phones.
I have used cwm on several phones and never had any problems getting to recovery and flashing roms.
you didn't read his post. he is saying not to use Rom manager to get/install roms
Probably because rom manager only wipes data and cache at most. Most of these roms work best with a super wipe
The touch cwm is the worst. Have to toggle signature verification every time, and point it to the internal sd card. Only one brick (soft), though.
That v5 one is notoriously bad on many phones. Just buggy. Not a dealbreaker for me. Is the other touch one better?
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He's probably referring to the roms listed in ROM manager that are not for our phone.I think there is two of them now
I think we're confusing Rom Manager with Clockwork Mod...
Rom Manager is an app made by koush, its a downloadable market app thats included with Cyanogenmod and other roms (on other phones) that makes it easy to install a ROM without bothering with booting into recovery. I used it extensively during my Nexus days, though on the t989 many roms you have to super wipe or do a lot of advanced things you can only do inside clockwork mod.
ClockworkMod is a recovery manager for your android phone, also made by Koush. The classic version that has been on all phones is the non-touch type, latest version is 5.0.2.7. You use the power button and volume rocker to navigate. There is another version dubbed ClockworkMod Touch, latest version is 5.8 something...you can actually navigate with touchscreen in this.
Many people's problems, I've experienced it too, is that CWM touch likes to reboot randomly during crucial moments (during a backup, MD5 creation, flashing a ROM...), leaving the potential for (and in some cases it actually has) bricked phones. Plus the touchscreen navigation is tempermental, its just not very responsive or accurate. Very dangerous bugs for such a sensitive area on the phone.
So do yourself a favor...use ClockworkMod, the originial. Its not going to kill you to navigate with the volume rocker and power button...it actually makes you pay attention and go slower so you don't make mistakes and push the wrong thing. Its easy to install...with Rom Manager! Download it from the market, when you open it near the top there will be a button to flash the latest ClockworkMod. It will be the non touch type.
As stated above, I wouldn't use the ROM flashing functions of Rom Manager with our phone, but it does have an easy button to reboot into recovery for roms without the option in the shutdown menu. It's the easiest way to flash CWM though.
Hope this helps.
You guys can stop "trippin" there are 2 roms under the dl section in rom manager for our phone DO NOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM FLASH THIS TO YOUR SGH-T989!!! it WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE!!! Somebody just needs to email koush about it so they can be removed. IMHO dl to your phone or pc and then flash away a superwipe is recommended. I for one am iffy with rom manager because it errors out on restores sometimes.
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zander21510 said:
I think we're confusing Rom Manager with Clockwork Mod...
Rom Manager is an app made by koush, its a downloadable market app thats included with Cyanogenmod and other roms (on other phones) that makes it easy to install a ROM without bothering with booting into recovery. I used it extensively during my Nexus days, though on the t989 many roms you have to super wipe or do a lot of advanced things you can only do inside clockwork mod.
ClockworkMod is a recovery manager for your android phone, also made by Koush. The classic version that has been on all phones is the non-touch type, latest version is 5.0.2.7. You use the power button and volume rocker to navigate. There is another version dubbed ClockworkMod Touch, latest version is 5.8 something...you can actually navigate with touchscreen in this.
Many people's problems, I've experienced it too, is that CWM touch likes to reboot randomly during crucial moments (during a backup, MD5 creation, flashing a ROM...), leaving the potential for (and in some cases it actually has) bricked phones. Plus the touchscreen navigation is tempermental, its just not very responsive or accurate. Very dangerous bugs for such a sensitive area on the phone.
So do yourself a favor...use ClockworkMod, the originial. Its not going to kill you to navigate with the volume rocker and power button...it actually makes you pay attention and go slower so you don't make mistakes and push the wrong thing. Its easy to install...with Rom Manager! Download it from the market, when you open it near the top there will be a button to flash the latest ClockworkMod. It will be the non touch type.
As stated above, I wouldn't use the ROM flashing functions of Rom Manager with our phone, but it does have an easy button to reboot into recovery for roms without the option in the shutdown menu. It's the easiest way to flash CWM though.
Hope this helps.
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Holy christ time to flash back to original clockworkmod. Later touch recovery.
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Still rockin the original CWM, never saw all the fuss about the touch stuff. Manually toggling is much safer and reliable IMO
I see that people have mistaken that I was talking about not using CMW. Let me explain. CMW (Clockwork Mod Recovery) and ROM Manager are two different things. You get CMW from ROM Manager. You use CMW to flash ROMs. Some people use ROM Manager to flash ROMs instead of CMW. That's the way you get bricked. By flashing ROM's that aren't on ROM Manager. I hope this clears it up.
I was unaware people still used Rom Manager.....
Thought we upgraded to ODIN, ADB and Heimdall
ROM manager will not brick your phone! If it does get bricked it was user error! Please close this thread
the OP says it bricked his phone, yet then says he flashed back to stock LOL. If your phone is a BRICK it's dead and does NOTHING.
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the OP says it bricked his phone, yet then says he flashed back to stock LOL. If your phone is a BRICK it's dead and does NOTHING.
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There's also soft brick which can be saved. He was most likely referring to that.
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I was unaware people still used Rom Manager.....
Thought we upgraded to ODIN, ADB and Heimdall
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ODIN is really crappy software IMO.. Despite its uses.
Even rom manager has its uses...I wouldn't use it to flash ROMS, because often with our phones you need more wiping than just data & cache, which is all it can do before it flashes a rom. It however it can be used to easily flash CWM and for phones without the option in the shutdown menu, you can use rom manager to reboot straight into CWM.
Guy's, what he is trying to tell you is that there are 2 ROMS that can be dowloaded and installed by ROM MANAGER that WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE. They are listed as T989 roms but they are actually for the International SGS2....
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ROM manager will not brick your phone! If it does get bricked it was user error! Please close this thread
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He's accurate about what he described in this thread. I created a similar thread (probably got deleted) yesterday about the same issue. Just because you haven't experienced bricking yours doesn't mean he shouldn't warn others.
I hard-bricked my T989 just simply trying to boot into recovery (non-touch CWM) from the Rom Manager app...and I have read similar issues. The phone goes fcuking dead.
UPS just dropped off my replacement phone today...ready to be rooted for an ICS AOSP ROM if I can find one. Done with CM7 for now.
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UPS just dropped off my replacement phone today...ready to be rooted for an ICS AOSP ROM if I can find one. Done with CM7 for now.
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There isn't one that fully works with data and audio
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Again my apologizes in advance for these questions but I am struggling to sort through all of the threads & determine the best course of action.
I went through this one step root process for my Samsung Epic: SDX-Deverlopers forms. Can't post link due to noobieness. If you good to their website the thread is titled "Author Topic: One click root for the Epic 4G! v2.3.0 Now has Superuser.apk!" first post dated August 31, 2010, 11:23:06 AM.
Now that this has been complete I am trying to do a couple of things.
- First I want to move apps to my sdcard. Since I am on version 2.1 this does not seem to work. Is there a work around on this?
In doing some reading it seems that one of the main suggestions to do once you root your phone is to create a backup so that you can try other mods while not losing everything. The app Rom Manager is suggested however I am uncertain if this is the preferred method for EPIC.
What can I do with the Superuser app?
Since I am the ultimate noob here if anyone would like to provide suggestions on roms & other things that they have done with their rooted EPIC that they have found to work well & be worth while I would greatly appreciate the feedback.
Again my apologizes for being such a noob however I will with your help pick up on this relatively quickly. Thanks!
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Again my apologizes in advance for these questions but I am struggling to sort through all of the threads & determine the best course of action.
I went through this one step root process for my Samsung Epic: SDX-Deverlopers forms. Can't post link due to noobieness. If you good to their website the thread is titled "Author Topic: One click root for the Epic 4G! v2.3.0 Now has Superuser.apk!" first post dated August 31, 2010, 11:23:06 AM.
Now that this has been complete I am trying to do a couple of things.
- First I want to move apps to my sdcard. Since I am on version 2.1 this does not seem to work. Is there a work around on this?
In doing some reading it seems that one of the main suggestions to do once you root your phone is to create a backup so that you can try other mods while not losing everything. The app Rom Manager is suggested however I am uncertain if this is the preferred method for EPIC.
What can I do with the Superuser app?
Since I am the ultimate noob here if anyone would like to provide suggestions on roms & other things that they have done with their rooted EPIC that they have found to work well & be worth while I would greatly appreciate the feedback.
Again my apologizes for being such a noob however I will with your help pick up on this relatively quickly. Thanks!
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Firstly, thanks for posting in the right section...
The one click root has been updated many times since th one you've downloaded, the latest version is 2.5.5, and includes flashing clockworkmod, which you can boot into to perform backups ad restores, as well as flash custom ROMs to the phone.
Superuser.apk is an app whose sole purpose is to ask your permission for a root privileged app to run. It is a safety precaution so that rogue apps don't use root privileges without your knowledge.
There are many ROMs to choose from, but the major decision for you is whether or not to run Froyo, which is still beta and unofficial. If you wish to run Froyo, you'll need to use the Windows program Odin in combination with a DK28 tar that updates the phone to Froyo.
Whether or not you stick with Android 2.1 (Eclair) or 2.2 (Froyo) is up to you, there are good ROMs for both versions. Before making any changes, it is always a good idea to backup any important data, as a lot of ROMs will require a data wipe to function correctly.
I would highly recommend reading the xda Epic wiki, and you'll find a lot of info and links there.
Good luck, and welcome to the community.
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Drockstar had some good info.
To answer a few questions:
2.1 can not install app to SD. You need 2.2
Yes, 2.3 is an old cwm. 2.5 is in the epic wiki. Gves you root and cwm 2.5. You need to Odin to stock dk28, then use one click root in order to install custom roms tha run on froyo.
You should backup in cwm before using odin. So that you can save your apps and data. Once you odin and root, you can go int advanced restore to get your apps back with their settings. I use titanium backup along with cwm for backing up. Works great for me. Like Drockstar said, the wiki has everything you need. Just follow the instructions step by step. Also, randy shear has a ton of youtube vids giving how-tos and demos. You might want to check out his vids.
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Again my apologizes in advance for these questions but I am struggling to sort through all of the threads & determine the best course of action.
I went through this one step root process for my Samsung Epic: SDX-Deverlopers forms. Can't post link due to noobieness. If you good to their website the thread is titled "Author Topic: One click root for the Epic 4G! v2.3.0 Now has Superuser.apk!" first post dated August 31, 2010, 11:23:06 AM.
Now that this has been complete I am trying to do a couple of things.
- First I want to move apps to my sdcard. Since I am on version 2.1 this does not seem to work. Is there a work around on this?
In doing some reading it seems that one of the main suggestions to do once you root your phone is to create a backup so that you can try other mods while not losing everything. The app Rom Manager is suggested however I am uncertain if this is the preferred method for EPIC.
What can I do with the Superuser app?
Since I am the ultimate noob here if anyone would like to provide suggestions on roms & other things that they have done with their rooted EPIC that they have found to work well & be worth while I would greatly appreciate the feedback.
Again my apologizes for being such a noob however I will with your help pick up on this relatively quickly. Thanks!
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Ok - thx! In order to update to the most current one click as shown on this forum under the article title: One Click Root & Recovery for the Epic 4G! v2.5.5 Now has ClockworkMod Redirector!
Would I need to uninstall the old version of the one click root that I have or should I just install as I did with that one for v2.5.5?
Thanks again!
You need to Odin to stock, then use the one click. Again, backup in cwm before you odin to stock so you don't lose your apps and settings
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Ok - thx! In order to update to the most current one click as shown on this forum under the article title: One Click Root & Recovery for the Epic 4G! v2.5.5 Now has ClockworkMod Redirector!
Would I need to uninstall the old version of the one click root that I have or should I just install as I did with that one for v2.5.5?
Thanks again!
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You need to Odin to stock, then use the one click. Again, backup in cwm before you odin to stock so you don't lose your apps and settings
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When you say backup in cwm what program is that referring to. Do you mean ClockworkMod Launcher? I have ROM Manager & Titanium backup. Once I ODIN how would I restore? Thx!
I'm referring to backing up via cwm. You should restore only after you have the setup you want. If you are flashing a rom, restore after you have flashed the rom
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I'm referring to backing up via cwm. You should restore only after you have the setup you want. If you are flashing a rom, restore after you have flashed the rom
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RTD, I do not understand what you mean by backing up via cwm. Can you walk me through it? If I can get past backing out the old root I can follow the wiki instructions the rest of the way. Thanks for your help.
Go into recovery mode. You should see an option to backup. Just check out Randy Shear's youtube vids. He makes it really easy.
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Go into recovery mode. You should see an option to backup. Just check out Randy Shear's youtube vids. He makes it really easy.
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Everyone I am struggling on this. When I shutdown then after shutdown hold down on start, down vol & camera buttons I get the recovery mode however I only have four options as follows:
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
What am I doing wrong as I need to find the backup option. Also what would the update.zip be?
Very frustrating...I just need to get this old root out & then it will be smooth sailing. Thx again everyone!
You're not rooted, that is the default recovery not clockworkmod
Cwm = clockwork recovery mod
Open rom manager and see if you have option to flash recovery at the top. Once you do that you should be able to get into cwm recovery.
To the guy above, just cause you don't have cwm doesn't mean your not rooted
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If your phone is rooted and you've downloaded rom manager and flashed cwm recovery then shut your phone off. Then hold the power button + camera button + volume down. This will take you to the cwm recovery. I kept getting the normal blue recovery until I read that I had to shut my phone off and hold those three buttons. Even under cwm when I pressed reboot into recovery I went to the normal blue one. You need to press those three to get to the cwm recovery.
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rocket321 said:
Cwm = clockwork recovery mod
Open rom manager and see if you have option to flash recovery at the top. Once you do that you should be able to get into cwm recovery.
To the guy above, just cause you don't have cwm doesn't mean your not rooted
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I went into ROM Manager (free edition) and the top option is available (Flash ClockworkMod Recovery). I clicked on it and it says "Successfully downloaded ClockworkMod recovery! When I then select 'Reboot into Recovery' it takes me to a prompt that gives me the following options:
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
Also below that it says:
-- Install from package...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted.
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Someone suggested that I find a stand alone clockwork in the dev section. After looking over there I am uncertain which one to use & I do not want to grab the wrong one & brick my phone. If anyone could provide a link to a stand alone clockwork (& believes that is the best course of action) pls send it to me as a pm if it will not allow you to post on the forum.
Again I am sorry for clogging the board up with this however I am stuck. Once I get the clockworkmod setup & then ODIN I will be on my way. Thanks again!
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If your phone is rooted and you've downloaded rom manager and flashed cwm recovery then shut your phone off. Then hold the power button + camera button + volume down. This will take you to the cwm recovery. I kept getting the normal blue recovery until I read that I had to shut my phone off and hold those three buttons. Even under cwm when I pressed reboot into recovery I went to the normal blue one. You need to press those three to get to the cwm recovery.
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Thank you for the suggestion. I have tried this & it takes me to the blue backup screen as you mention. I need help finding a stand alone download for clockworkmod to try to fix my mess up.
You could put the 1-click root w/ cwm on top of the root you already have. I remember reading that it can royally screw your phone though. Its hit or miss. I personally wouldn't do it.
If you don't care too much about losing settings and saves (like game progress or settings on an app), you may just want to flash odin, do the one-click root w/ cwm and flash a rom.
I have found that backup apps like titanium and my backup are a little spotty with their data restoration capabilities. Nandroid, which is the backup/restore used in cwm is the best.
You could try to backup using my backup before you flash odin. No promises that you will be able to restore all of your data (apps, game progress and settings) with my backup though.
The reboot to recovery option doesn't work on 2.1, you have to power off and use vol down, camera, power. Now that you installed recovery from rom manager it should work.
Edit, to be clear, if you select reboot recover on 2.1 it goes to samsung recovery. If you power off and then hold the 3 buttons you'll get cwm recovery since you flashed it in rom manager.
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The reboot to recovery option doesn't work on 2.1, you have to power off and use vol down, camera, power. Now that you installed recovery from rom manager it should work.
Edit, to be clear, if you select reboot recover on 2.1 it goes to samsung recovery. If you power off and then hold the 3 buttons you'll get cwm recovery since you flashed it in rom manager.
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Unfortunately even after flashing cwm & then restart (after shutdown) with the power, down vol & camera button I am still getting the blue recovery screen. Perhaps applying the update.zip would give me the cwm? Would anyone suggest applying update.zip?
If this doesn't work I will just ODIN & set every back up again so as not to waste more of everyones time on here. Again many thanks to everyone for pointing me in the right direction.
I'd try running the 2.5.5 root first, if it works great, if not you'll have to odin but you were gonna do that anyway.
You might want to install odin and the samsung drivers and verify it can see your phone before anything has the chance to go wrong, that way you know you are ready to fix any problem that might come up.
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One more question... In regards to doing ODIN do I need to have anything special selected i.e. enable USB debugging or checking Unknown sources (allow install of non-market applications)?
Are there any other things I need to think about or setup aside from the phones drivers prior to ODIN?
Maybe this is by design and I'm just missing something. I got a new e4gt and proceeded to root it using instructions found on epic4gtouchroot.com. Basically I used odin to flash a stock EL29 ROM and then install team Rogue's CWM.
All went well with this process so I proceeded to the next step, which was to download and install a custom ROM. I installed the VeNuM ICE 5.5 since I'm a comic book nerd as well as a computer geek.
This wasn't my first time rooting. I've been rooting my EVO for a year of so, and I've rooted my Wife's Nook Tablet too, so I was a bit shocked to see that the Team Rogue CWM recovery program went bye-bye after flashing the VeNuM ROM.
I downloaded ROM manager and tried to flash the latest CWM recovery program from there, but that dind't work. I haven't tried to download the touch recovery, but I was able to reinstall the Rogue CWM recovery program, which then hosed up my ROM. I actually thought I bricked my phone for a minute, but I was able to go back into Rogue Recovery and re-flash the VeNuM ROM.
All went well and I'm back into my phone, but now again when I reboot into recovery mode, I have "Android System Recovery <3e>" like an abridged version of CWM. I don't have near as many options and wonder what's going on.
I never lost my recovery mode before when flashing a ROM. Is there some sort of custom recovery included with this ROM, or am I doing something wrong?
hi. im pretty new at this also, but i think i know the answer to this. well. not really the answer, but i know how to get clockwork recovery back onto the venum rom you are using now. you need Odin3-v1.85 (just google it) and the clockwork recovery StockCWM-EL26.tar (google). Then you put your phone in odin mode, volume down and power from powered off state, run the program, check the PDA option and browse for the stockcwm file, plug in usb and hit start. That'll put the recovery back on your phone.
But as I've been reading, a lot of times, you cannot just download the rom onto the phone or sd card and flash new roms using the cwm recovery. something about the gingerbread and ics and different kernels. .... =D
Please read the "How not to brick your e4gt" or how ever it goes in general. You need to stay away from rom manager and any touch recoveries. To answer your question, rogue recovery went away because the Venum ICE rom has the stock recovery packed in because of all the custom recovery/bricking issues we've been having with ICS. So the Dev left out custom recovery included with his rom
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I'm not sure what recovery Venum comes with but this might be by design since custom CWM recovery is not installed by design on most ICS roms.
First of all read through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
You chose to flash ICS; if you had chosen Gingerbread this would not be an issue so please read on... ROM manager should NOT be used with ICS. Since you are new, the only CWM recovery you should be using is the stockcwm-el26 posted here: http://chris41g.devphone.org/index.php?dir=EpicTouch/Stock+Repack/EL26/
Lastly and most important:
Flashing ICS can be a very dangerous thing for your phone if done improperly. Even flashing back to Gingerbread from ICS can go wrong.
Please do not do any further flashing of ICS without reading and understanding the process of flashing ICS safely!
Also, please feel free to ask lots of questions until you are comfortable with the entire process. That is why we are here.
Edit: Sorry for the very strict tone throughout. You have a very nice WORKING phone and we see a lot of newbies flashing over to ICS without a full understanding of what can go horribly wrong. We also see users asking for help here daily because they have bricked their phone (many times with no hope for repair or recovery).
Maybe I'm just lucky?
Ok, so I read a little more (two straight days of XDA has left me a bit un-productive at work) and I see now the difference between the Samsung phone and the HTC phone I had before. Samsung does partitioning a bit different, or maybe it's just ICS, but either way as you explained in your post, the recovery has to be packed into the ROM. Makes sense now. I was thinking that the recovery was a different eeProm chip, therfore flashing a ROM shouldn't affect the recovery, now I know that's not the case.
After I read, a bit more, I actually did what it's been suggested not to do, and that's install ROM manager. From ROM manager I installed the custom recovery and have successfully booted to this several times without incident, and in fact have flashed both another ROM (VeNuM Anakonda), a Theme for this Rom, and the S Voice update 4 exe file. I don't seem to be having any trouble using Rom manager to boot into recovery mode.
Venum ICE was a bit much for me, way too many bells and whistles that I could potentially blow up my phone with which still could happen. Anyway, I like the Anakonda rom and will probably stick with it a while. I can't get s Voice to stabalize, but that seems to be the only problem I've got, so I'll live with that.
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Ok, so I read a little more (two straight days of XDA has left me a bit un-productive at work) and I see now the difference between the Samsung phone and the HTC phone I had before. Samsung does partitioning a bit different, or maybe it's just ICS, but either way as you explained in your post, the recovery has to be packed into the ROM. Makes sense now. I was thinking that the recovery was a different eeProm chip, therfore flashing a ROM shouldn't affect the recovery, now I know that's not the case.
After I read, a bit more, I actually did what it's been suggested not to do, and that's install ROM manager. From ROM manager I installed the custom recovery and have successfully booted to this several times without incident, and in fact have flashed both another ROM (VeNuM Anakonda), a Theme for this Rom, and the S Voice update 4 exe file. I don't seem to be having any trouble using Rom manager to boot into recovery mode.
Venum ICE was a bit much for me, way too many bells and whistles that I could potentially blow up my phone with which still could happen. Anyway, I like the Anakonda rom and will probably stick with it a while. I can't get s Voice to stabalize, but that seems to be the only problem I've got, so I'll live with that.
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Coming in late to this thread but I would like to re-iterate what was said about ROM manager and pretty much everything tdunham said. Because you have been, so far lucky, does not mean that luck will continue. Best advice is to remove it and not use it. If you read through some more posts you will see that the bricking doesn't always happen on the first, second, third flash. It can all of a sudden appear. We've had VERY experienced developers brick their phones, so to think you won't just because you've been lucky is not wise.
But some of the comanailities are clear - using ICS recovery to wipe/restore and using ROM manager. Just thought I'd point that out.
If you're coming over from a different phone (HTC etc) check out Qbking77's videos. They are very informative too.
Good luck and have fun.
I'm glad that the op did some reading and had some extra help here. Our phones can be confusing but with extra reading it can be figured out. We try to list the kernel that's in the rom and these are all listed in the development section in some form or another with explanations of what they have, ie cwm or rogue recovery... In addition most of our roms list a change log that you can read that will tell what each version of the rom has in it in case you would rather use an older version. And we keep the older roms posted too... anyway happy flashing !
I've bricked my phone a few time messing around with different ICS roms and kernals. I go back and odin EL29 rooted...start all over from scratch. Try using new recovey kernals posted on ACS. I'm on FE22 with the ACS recovery and am having no issues with flashing zips and making backups as well restoring.
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There are some repacked recoveries that Steady used to make for ICS before he disappeared. Those were never and still aren't safe for flashing ROMs though. It's safest to Odin/Mobile ODIN CWM EL26 tar whenever you need recovery and then flash whatever and then reflash an ICS kernel without recovery so that your phone boots
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I have tried updating my rom through Rom manager and I keep getting an error. it says unknown volume path and cant mount backup path. Any assistance would be appreciated.
Posted in the wrong section this should be in Q&A. But I would advice not to use ROM manager and use another form of recovery like CWM.
Sorry about wrong section. What is CWM and where can I get it?
Pm me primedef lest they lock this thread
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Sorry about wrong section. What is CWM and where can I get it?
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CWM is clockwork mod recovery.
Custom recovery used to flash ROMs.
Although I don't remember if there's different versions of it for each Nexus.
If this doesn't get automatically moved to Q&A, repost it there.
Agreed, and worst comes to worst, ROM Manager installs a version (possibly outdated) of cwm automatically, so you can always use that. Personally, I'd suggest flashing cwm 6.0.x and using that to manually flash everything from now on. Doing so (and understanding what you're doing) will vastly improve your Android experience, and knowledge, and may help you get out of a tight spot in the future, if something goes wrong with your phone. A little knowledge can go a looong way in the flash game.
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GooManager and TWRP is a superior replacement for koush's stuff. Just go with that and you'll never look back. They integrate well together and it actually works just like cwm and rom manager used to when it was 1st released a couple of years ago. Can't recommend it enough. I haven't used a properly working cwm/RM since the moto OG. But if you insist on cwm then I would find a version that has been been modified to function properly. Seems someone released a working touch version but I don't know if it integrates with the RM app.
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primedef said:
I have tried updating my rom through Rom manager and I keep getting an error. it says unknown volume path and cant mount backup path. Any assistance would be appreciated.
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Most likely failed if you don't have custom recovery installed as stated above
. Can't install custom ROM without custom recovery.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Posted in the wrong section this should be in Q&A. But I would advice not to use ROM manager and use another form of recovery like CWM.
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Good call
primedef said:
Sorry about wrong section. What is CWM and where can I get it?
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You can get it via ROM manager, choose install custom recovery. or you can flash it via fastboot.
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Agreed, and worst comes to worst, ROM Manager installs a version (possibly outdated) of cwm automatically, so you can always use that. Personally, I'd suggest flashing cwm 6.0.x and using that to manually flash everything from now on. Doing so (and understanding what you're doing) will vastly improve your Android experience, and knowledge, and may help you get out of a tight spot in the future, if something goes wrong with your phone. A little knowledge can go a looong way in the flash game.
Galaxy Nexus - Slim Bean 1.0
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I don't think it installs "automatically". It WILL choose the correct one for your device but you need to actually choose to install it. (sorry not trying to say you are wrong, just wanted to clarify for the guy
But like someone else said, you might want to download app called goo manager beta. Then open app, press menu, choose install openrecovery script. Say yes. Let it finish installing. Then reboot into recovery via the option in the app. That will give you TWRP2.2.0 as your custom recovery, i used to use cwmr for the longest time, one day i tried TWRP(and goo manager app) and i haven't looked back.
Just one MAJOR tip for you:
After installing a custom recovery, the VERY FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP.(choose option "backup" and let it do its thing) you won't regret making a backup. 75% of time before i flash/install something new or different i make a backup, this way if i don't like what i changed i can just restore and be back where i was. Plus, if anything ever goes wrong it's nice to have a couple nandroid backup files to choose from to recover your device to working condition.
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Most likely failed if you don't have custom recovery installed as stated above
. Can't install custom ROM without custom recovery.
Good call
You can get it via ROM manager, choose install custom recovery. or you can flash it via fastboot.
I don't think it installs "automatically". It WILL choose the correct one for your device but you need to actually choose to install it. (sorry not trying to say you are wrong, just wanted to clarify for the guy
But like someone else said, you might want to download app called goo manager beta. Then open app, press menu, choose install openrecovery script. Say yes. Let it finish installing. Then reboot into recovery via the option in the app. That will give you TWRP2.2.0 as your custom recovery, i used to use cwmr for the longest time, one day i tried TWRP(and goo manager app) and i haven't looked back.
Just one MAJOR tip for you:
After installing a custom recovery, the VERY FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP.(choose option "backup" and let it do its thing) you won't regret making a backup. 75% of time before i flash/install something new or different i make a backup, this way if i don't like what i changed i can just restore and be back where i was. Plus, if anything ever goes wrong it's nice to have a couple nandroid backup files to choose from to recover your device to working condition.
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You're right...my explanation was a bit too simplified, I think. I meant that the process of installing cwm is automated when you choose to install it, versus having to manually flash it to the device. And you're 100% correct about immediately making a Nandroid after installing a recovery...having a stock, rooted system is always a prudent fallback. As for Too Manager; I actually just downloaded it the other day, because it gives me quick access to new Gapps whenever I need them, and it's a quicker solution than going to the site. I haven't used it for anything else at all, so I'm unaware of it's full capabilities... I would assume that anything that's hosted on Goo, is relatively easy to find via the app. Unfortunately, most of the JB ROMs I've flashed aren't hosted there. Yet and still, it's a very useful tool, even if you only use it to stay current with Gapp packages.
Galaxy Nexus - Slim Bean 1.0
jjhiza said:
You're right...my explanation was a bit too simplified, I think. I meant that the process of installing cwm is automated when you choose to install it, versus having to manually flash it to the device. And you're 100% correct about immediately making a Nandroid after installing a recovery...having a stock, rooted system is always a prudent fallback. As for Too Manager; I actually just downloaded it the other day, because it gives me quick access to new Gapps whenever I need them, and it's a quicker solution than going to the site. I haven't used it for anything else at all, so I'm unaware of it's full capabilities... I would assume that anything that's hosted on Goo, is relatively easy to find via the app. Unfortunately, most of the JB ROMs I've flashed aren't hosted there. Yet and still, it's a very useful tool, even if you only use it to stay current with Gapp packages.
Galaxy Nexus - Slim Bean 1.0
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I fell in love with goo manager and TWRP as soon as i installed them, they are great. Was even able to find the beta versions of twrp2.2 on there. Tons of things are available on goo.you can usually find IMOSEYON lean kernel RC's on there as well. I even donated to not have to wait the 10seconds before download and help them get done new server equipment, hopefully they can get to their goal and we can get very speedy downloads.
(again sorry, i wasn't trying to step on ya toes or make ya look bad, i hate that i always want to clarify things further lol, makes me feel like a douche sometimes.)
Since this has not been closed or moved yet I just wanted to add that goo.im is great! I love that app for my getting downloads and gapps. I do have to say I tried twrp and it was faster but I never got the hang of it. Seemed you could only flash what was in your download folder? Or else I would have to move the file over to download folder to get it to flash. I guess on the dinc2 I got spoiled with touch ext4 recovery. It was a great recovery. I did notice the speed of twrp but decided to go back to my touch cwm since I already was familiar with the controls. Was probably user error on twrp since I see so many people love it on his forum.
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I fell in love with goo manager and TWRP as soon as i installed them, they are great. Was even able to find the beta versions of twrp2.2 on there. Tons of things are available on goo.you can usually find IMOSEYON lean kernel RC's on there as well. I even donated to not have to wait the 10seconds before download and help them get done new server equipment, hopefully they can get to their goal and we can get very speedy downloads.
(again sorry, i wasn't trying to step on ya toes or make ya look bad, i hate that i always want to clarify things further lol, makes me feel like a douche sometimes.)
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No harm, no foul man. We all need correcting once in a while. I rarely get mad at anything in forums, other than people flaming devs or not following rules the devs have outlined (like asking a CM team member for an ETA, lol). You've actually me a reason to delve into the Goo app a bit deeper, to see what's there.
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Ok, so I've been flashing Roms since I first had the G1 but my step sons Galaxy S II is giving me fits as of late.
I've been working on it for over 2 days now and can not figure the problem even after reading through all the how to's and individual rom threads. I initialy rooted his phone back in April/May and had a early ICS phandroid rom on it. However I wanted to move him to JB. I've done the customary wipe data/cache but no matter what JB rom I flash it goes into what I believe is a bootloop. I've read several places it been said to let sit after flashing for 10 minutes so I let sit for 20 and it was still on boot (but no obvious point where you can tell it's looping).
When I went to restore his backup that would no longer boot at all, just a blank screen. So long story short I restored everything to stock then updated to ICS through keis. and tried the process again thinking it might need updated firmware/radio. Same thing happened and I had to restore stock and update through keis again. I am now at a complete loss as I update my phone (One S) and wifes (GSIII) atleast once a week on nightlies.
The one thing that I thought was odd is both on the original 2.3.6 and now 4.0.4 when I go into settings at search for update i get a message saying "no firmware". Not sure if that means anything but it didn't sound right to me.
Any help or suggestions would be overwhelmingly appreciated.
You will get different methods on here but for starters what recovery are you running. Thats problem 1 I guarantee for your bootloop. I use TWRP 2.3 which can be found by downloading goo.im and flashing it from the menu screen. You can also go to the forum here in development for the zip file.
When using TWRP or any touch recovery do not use the wipe scripts. Lets start there.... Since the method to flashing is basically the same all over its just the wiping procedure with the wrong recovery can be tricky
I'm using CWM 6.0.3 I believe he's at school so I don't have the phone to know the exact CWM version. It's also not the touch version. How should I go about wiping data/cache for his phone then? I've never used TWRP but going to assume if you've used one recovery it's pretty similar or self explanatory.
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I'm using CWM 6.0.3 I believe he's at school so I don't have the phone to know the exact CWM version. It's also not the touch version. How should I go about wiping data/cache for his phone then? I've never used TWRP but going to assume if you've used one recovery it's pretty similar or self explanatory.
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I personally prefer that recovery and I'm running a cm 10 on my phone with no issues at never had anything. Yes it's rather simple to put on an even if you want to try the CWM touch recovery by all means go ahead
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Ok, I'll give TWRP a try when he gets home. I guess my next question would be is there a different way of wiping then with other phones?
Do I need the recovery to be touch (never heard of a recovery needing touch version)
Anything different then wiping dalvik, cashe and data? Also I've look around and do not see an actual JB radio. So I'm assuming the ULVH1 radio would work for ICS & JB.
I appreciate your help with this btw.
jhenson496 said:
Ok, I'll give TWRP a try when he gets home. I guess my next question would be is there a different way of wiping then with other phones?
Do I need the recovery to be touch (never heard of a recovery needing touch version)
Anything different then wiping dalvik, cashe and data? Also I've look around and do not see an actual JB radio. So I'm assuming the ULVH1 radio would work for ICS & JB.
I appreciate your help with this btw.
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CHANGELOG for 2.3.0.0:
-Rebased onto AOSP Jelly Bean source code
-Rewrote backup, restore, wipe, and mount code in C++ classes for easier maintenance going forward
NOTE: backups from prior versions of TWRP are still compatible with 2.3
-ADB sideload functionality from AOSP is included in 2.3, see this link for more info
-Re-wrote fix permissions entirely in C++ and runs in a few seconds instead of a few minutes (thanks to bigbiff)
-Improvements to zip finding in OpenRecoveryScript (should be a lot fewer GooManager automation issues)
-Faster boot times
-Added charging indicator while in recovery (only updates once every 60 seconds)
While this update may not bring a host of new must-have features, this update is a significant re-write of much of the core TWRP code. AOSP Jelly Bean recovery source moved to mostly C++ code and now all of the "TWRP" code is fully rewritten into C++ as well. Now that we've laid this groundwork, we're in a much better position to pull in future AOSP recovery updates as well as implementing more great new features.
Since TWRP 2.3 is based on AOSP jelly bean sources, TWRP now uses recovery API 3 instead of 2. Some zips may no longer work if the developer is using an out-of-date update-binary. This API change should not be a problem on newer devices, but older devices will probably encounter several zips that need to be updated. If needed, you can try using this update-binary that was compiled with current sources. It goes in your zip file in the META-INF/com/google/android folder.
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There is a lil something from the TWRP thread about the new recovery... basically its built off a JB which improves the features being used like wipes, fix permissions, backups etc. Its not that its solely touch but it was the direction most if not all recoveries have gone to basically preserve that power button and vol keys of our phones. It kinda makes sense...
So with updated technology just came a better way to use a recovery and since the SGII originally had wiping issues TWRP on this phone is made solely for this phone which cut out alot of issues. Now if you prefer a non touch may I suggest 5.0.2.7 w/darkside cache wipes and you would be ok as well. Honestly though I dont think anyone would be upset with TWRP its quite nice
TWRP Link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768742
Darkside Wipes - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477955 (Only use with CWM 5.0.2.7)
CWM Touch(Latest) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1844637
I would switch to Clockwork Recovery 5.0.2.7 which you can find in ROMmanager app. Thus, you can use TDJ's Darkside super wipe and cache wipe scripts which install very clean.
Finding his scripts might be a bit of a challenge but they are out there. I have them but not sure how i can get them to you... my dropbox isnt working.
if you do find those scripts, then the flash is simple...
reboot into recovery
Flash TDJ's Darkside SUPERWIPE
Flash your ROM or Gapps depending on what that OP says goes first
Flash Darkside CACHE wipe
Reboot, let is settle 10 mins reboot
That works with 5.0.2.7 where you have to mash the side buttons.. Ive installed a few JB and ICS roms this way, worked well for me.
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abesgs2 said:
I would switch to Clockwork Recovery 5.0.2.7 which you can find in ROMmanager app. Thus, you can use TDJ's Darkside super wipe and cache wipe scripts which install very clean.
Finding his scripts might be a bit of a challenge but they are out there. I have them but not sure how i can get them to you... my dropbox isnt working.
if you do find those scripts, then the flash is simple...
reboot into recovery
Flash TDJ's Darkside SUPERWIPE
Flash your ROM or Gapps depending on what that OP says goes first
Flash Darkside CACHE wipe
Reboot, let is settle 10 mins reboot
That works with 5.0.2.7 where you have to mash the side buttons.. Ive installed a few JB and ICS roms this way, worked well for me.
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My friend I linked the zips in the post right above yours
playya said:
CHANGELOG for 2.3.0.0:
There is a lil something from the TWRP thread about the new recovery... basically its built off a JB which improves the features being used like wipes, fix permissions, backups etc. Its not that its solely touch but it was the direction most if not all recoveries have gone to basically preserve that power button and vol keys of our phones. It kinda makes sense...
So with updated technology just came a better way to use a recovery and since the SGII originally had wiping issues TWRP on this phone is made solely for this phone which cut out alot of issues. Now if you prefer a non touch may I suggest 5.0.2.7 w/darkside cache wipes and you would be ok as well. Honestly though I dont think anyone would be upset with TWRP its quite nice
TWRP Link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768742
Darkside Wipes - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477955 (Only use with CWM 5.0.2.7)
CWM Touch(Latest) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1844637
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Just saw that last part by Playa, sorry didnt mean to kang you haha... but hes got it down ^^^
I have always used CWM and currently use the touch version. I have had some problems with CWM lately like the no media mess up with ROM manager. And the other day when going to 4.2. Things I like about TWRP is the keyboard and file manager as well as being able to update to the newest touch recovery through goo manager. So before making the switch from my staple recovery is there anything I should know. I have heard TWRP may have issues with Cyanogen and might be a little slow?
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I still use CWM, it does the job for me. Others swear by TWRP so you're better off trying them both
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I still use CWM, it does the job for me. Others swear by TWRP so you're better off trying them both
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Same here. Although the /0/ thing has me seriously considering switching to TWRP.
I don't mind trying both but I like all my backups to be easily accessible within my recovery. Plus I don't think I would run into anything for a while and don't want to invest making all my backups in TWRP then find out an issue that someone may have already encountered before me. Sorry of that comes off weird. I started this thread more as an opinion on what converts maybe like or dislike about TWRP.
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I've had CWM for a long time(since the galaxy S days) but when i got my gnex off on ebay, It had the TWRP recovery installed, after trying it I decided that I will never go back to CWM. It's just a matter of user preference really, for all those years that I've used CWM I've never had any single issues with it. I can say the same for TWRP after using it for almost a year now.
Few things I love about TWRP:
-Swipe to confirm Install
-Full touch screen with big buttons(i know CWM has touch screen version too but I was only able to try the semi touch screen version and did not really like it)
-File Manager
-Ability to compress(don't know if CWM can do this but I've included it too) and rename/name backups
-You can queue the zips you want to install(maximum of 10), no more going back and forth between sdcard directories and recovery menus
Those are the ones that I could think of at the moment. I'm sure there's a lot more else to list down. If you ask me TWRP is a bit more user friendly because of the UI
Just switched to TWRP a couple of months ago, after having always used CWM. No real issues with CWM. I have just found TWRP to be more user friendly for me.
TWRP have more features than CWM, for example, file managing and the ability to name backups. Thats a great advantage if you ask me.
Recently switched to TWRP. Loving it so far. I especially like the Advanced -> ADB Sideload function so I can superwipe and flash without worrying about the internal storage.
I've always used CWM, but like others, because of /0/, I'm considering trying twrp. I just made a backup with CWM 6.0.1.9, but now that i've found it, i'm unsure of how to copy it to my computer. That is, my mac recognizes /data/media/0 via android file transfer, but i cannot transfer the backup from here. And I really dont want to move the backup and blobs folders twice just for the sake of copying. Any ideas? Also, whatever happened to navbar arrows in cwm touch?
I switched to TWRP because of the excessive number of blobs made by CWM.
It's a real pain having to copy over 2,000 files and folders over MTP to a computer.
I like to keep the most recent backup on my Gnex, while moving the older backups to my computer.
Consider this. I used cwr on my droid X and it worked fine. The day I got my Gnex and rooted it I ignored CWR and immediately installed TWRP. Never looked back. I always hear people say "I switched from CWR to TWRP and its great". Not once have I heard it the other way
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