I love the features of various source developed ROMs like AOKP, CM, or Paranoid Android. But at the same time I'm so used to certain Touchwiz things, like the calendar, dialer, browser...
What's the likelihood that someone could move the TW framework and apps over to a source-based ROM? Is it possible? Would it be stable? Or should I just find third party apps and move on with my life?
Some people have been able to port some, not all, of the TW apps but as far as everything else, it's never going to happen. People have wasted hundreds of hours and gotten no where.
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I would love to see something like this, but I'm realistic and know its probably not possible.
I can continue to dream about seeing the touchwiz camera on cm10 though, right?
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If someone could just get the TW camera ported to AOSP, that would be awesome!
There have been a few in the past that were TW base but had some AOKP things added. But they arent up to date anymore
I know that jellybam has a touchwiz launcher but not the touchwiz apps. Plus i don't know how stable that rom is at the moment.
I've talked with johnsondr80 over at The Collective some time ago, and they apparently looked into merging TW into their ROM, and apparently it became apparent as to how incredibly massive it was going to be to do that. Apparently TW is interwoven throughout the entire ROM, and in essence would require (pretty much) a build from scratch........ I'm not a dev, so I could've misunderstood. But it sounded like it was was too much work for the benefits
Face Of Boe said:
I love the features of various source developed ROMs like AOKP, CM, or Paranoid Android. But at the same time I'm so used to certain Touchwiz things, like the calendar, dialer, browser...
What's the likelihood that someone could move the TW framework and apps over to a source-based ROM? Is it possible? Would it be stable? Or should I just find third party apps and move on with my life?
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Not possible. It is not open source
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I think it'd be interesting for someone to come up with a ROM possibly cyanogen or liquid based, and replace everything possible with go apps. ie: go launcher, go locker, go weather, go sms, etc.. it would add an interesting theming aspect that I think many would enjoy. Would this be possible??
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I think it'd be interesting for someone to come up with a ROM possibly cyanogen or liquid based, and replace everything possible with go apps. ie: go launcher, go locker, go weather, go sms, etc.. it would add an interesting theming aspect that I think many would enjoy. Would this be possible??
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well we did this back on froyo for the fascinate touchwiz http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085298
and used many go apps cuz they were miui-y (if that makes sense)
had some issues needing to keep stock contacts.apk in the rom, otherwise you couldnt sync google contacts
on aosp i dont *think* it would be an issue, but on sense i think it would
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well we did this back on froyo for the fascinate touchwiz http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085298
and used many go apps cuz they were miui-y (if that makes sense)
had some issues needing to keep stock contacts.apk in the rom, otherwise you couldnt sync google contacts
on aosp i dont *think* it would be an issue, but on sense i think it would
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This looks awesome. How'd you combine TW with MIUI?? Looks pretty crisp with the way it runs. I'd make it myself, but I don't have a computer.... I think it'd be a kool start to a dev'ing career.
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This looks awesome. How'd you combine TW with MIUI?? Looks pretty crisp with the way it runs. I'd make it myself, but I don't have a computer.... I think it'd be a kool start to a dev'ing career.
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andmer was the brains behind the rom really...he had to HEAVILY modify the touchwiz framework to accept miui launcher and miui preferences
hes crazy smart and at the time it looked like no aosp miui would really be functional on the fascinate...eventually once jt1134 got cm7 going, andmer took on porting aosp miui to the fasc and up until recently maintained it
even seeing exactly what he was doing at the time made my head spin, lol...i doubt i could replicate it on my own
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andmer was the brains behind the rom really...he had to HEAVILY modify the touchwiz framework to accept miui launcher and miui preferences
hes crazy smart and at the time it looked like no aosp miui would really be functional on the fascinate...eventually once jt1134 got cm7 going, andmer took on porting aosp miui to the fasc and up until recently maintained it
even seeing exactly what he was doing at the time made my head spin, lol...i doubt i could replicate it on my own
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That makes me think, I wonder if (since I've heard TW is a pita) you could do the same thing with MIUI and sense. So you could still have a lot of the sense aspects but also have the functionality of MIUI similar to your senseless ROM.
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That makes me think, I wonder if (since I've heard TW is a pita) you could do the same thing with MIUI and sense. So you could still have a lot of the sense aspects but also have the functionality of MIUI similar to your senseless ROM.
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its possible, yes...can i/will i do it? no
really andmer would need a sense device or sbrissen would have to care enough to actually try it
This seems like it would be too much of a hassle when you could just as easily install all of the apps the GO Team has to offer and make it look like you have a full GO ROM.
You could always flash MIUI. IMO it's pretty close to the GO with the right theme settings.
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This seems like it would be too much of a hassle when you could just as easily install all of the apps the GO Team has to offer and make it look like you have a full GO ROM.
You could always flash MIUI. IMO it's pretty close to the GO with the right theme settings.
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It still wouldn't be the same. I'm talking have something fully themeable like MIUI or cyanogenmod but everything is go instead of whatever is stock in the ROM. I guess, yeah you could do it by downloading it all, but it'd be kooler to see more integration.
Oh, btw nitsuj, I messaged andmer about the MIUI/Sense hybrid. I told him I'd be willing to test if he felt like even fooling with it.
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I dont know much sbout cyanogenmod but i do its very popular.
why is that so? is it the best rom around? whats the difference between cm and the others like calkulin or blazers?
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Cyanogen mod is an aosp rom . Android open source project. The thing that makes it different is it is not touchwiz based. It is pretty much how Google meant it to be. Well that and they do awesome stuff with settings. You have the ability to even further customize your from yourself with out third party apps. Like being able to over clock on the fly with native settings for it. Cyanogenmod.com will tell you what you want in further details
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Hello I would like to know some things about porting Touchwiz Apps to AOSP or CM..
Why there's a port for the Touchwiz Launcher and there can't be a port of Camera or Gallery app for example because those are the ones I would like to have
How it's possible or "legal" to port the Launcher and not the rest of the apps that what I read that illegal to use Touchwiz libs or something but how Launcher? for Example I have Touchwiz Launcher on my phone with CM10 and I would like to have camera and gallery
If its possible to port it? can someone tell me please how to do it
I want camera & gallery apps from samsung because they are a lot better that Original Apps and I dont want to go to Samsung Android..
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.... who is porting Touchwiz launcher? All of the Touchwiz-based ROM's you see in the Android Development section, be it running ICS or JB, are based on either official builds of ICS, or leaked/ported builds of JB. I've yet to see a PORT of anything TouchWiz on a custom ROM.
Android Development = Samsung build leaks/ports
Original Android Development = CM/AOSP builds.
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.... who is porting Touchwiz launcher? All of the Touchwiz-based ROM's you see in the Android Development section, be it running ICS or JB, are based on either official builds of ICS, or leaked/ported builds of JB. I've yet to see a PORT of anything TouchWiz on a custom ROM.
Android Development = Samsung build leaks/ports
Original Android Development = CM/AOSP builds.
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No man sorry that's not what Im trying to say
What I trying to explain is that you can find here on XDA the Touchwiz launcher ported for other phones.. and I want a ported gallery and camera app that's what i mean
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No man sorry that's not what Im trying to say
What I trying to explain is that you can find here on XDA the Touchwiz launcher ported for other phones.. and I want a ported gallery and camera app that's what i mean
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apparently drewgaren claims he's working on "porting touchwiz apps" to cm10. so lets see how far that'll go. and it requires alot of libs and framework stuff to be cross compiled and then alot of trial and error and then profit. till then .......
Well Now that it is possible to decompile the split back to java it could be easier to do it.
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Well Now that it is possible to decompile the split back to java it could be easier to do it.
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i guess you're not aware of the legal side of stuff using touchwiz stuff on custom rom? good luck googling it and you wonder if its possible. it is but the amount of time you're gonna put in porting all those things could take 2 years. i remember back in xperia x10 days one of the guy was working on porting sony camera and stuff onto a cm7 rom and after 1 year it was still wonky. so go figure. and then he just said forget it.
Yea... there's that to deal with, too. Google doesn't even want Google Apps pre-installed on Cyanogenmod ROM's... so i can't imagine what Sammy's take would be on porting their camera and such to CM roms.
I'm not sure about the s3, but i think on the captivate you could use twlauncher on cm7. You don't get any of the widgets or features though. I personally don't see why you would want to.
I'm with you on wanting the camera. This is the one thing i really miss when I'm on an aosp rom. I compared my wife's camera to mine while i was on cm10. The colors are slightly off (maybe white balance) and the focus time was slower on cm. There are other great camera apps like procapture that will give you more functionality similar to the tw camera.
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i guess you're not aware of the legal side of stuff using touchwiz stuff on custom rom? good luck googling it and you wonder if its possible. it is but the amount of time you're gonna put in porting all those things could take 2 years. i remember back in xperia x10 days one of the guy was working on porting sony camera and stuff onto a cm7 rom and after 1 year it was still wonky. so go figure. and then he just said forget it.
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I am aware if that.
And as far as I know some one had the player working but had a problem with Samsung specific path that the app needed and he couldn't change then since they where hardcoded
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I'm not sure about the s3, but i think on the captivate you could use twlauncher on cm7. You don't get any of the widgets or features though. I personally don't see why you would want to.
I'm with you on wanting the camera. This is the one thing i really miss when I'm on an aosp rom. I compared my wife's camera to mine while i was on cm10. The colors are slightly off (maybe white balance) and the focus time was slower on cm. There are other great camera apps like procapture that will give you more functionality similar to the tw camera.
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Im with you on that one. Ive tried a few other ROMS and they are very good and I do like them. But I miss my stock camera too much so I always go back to a ROM with stick camera.
I wanted S Memo and Video Player cause CM10 doesn't have those type of apps and I think these are better developed than the similar apps on the play store. Besides, I like original stock apps compared to 3rd party apps.
Has anyone actually done this / can provide guidance?
I'm looking to port the video player, clock and yahoo news widget(live wallpaper) from the stock samsung rom over to a cm10 base.
Hi men,
Just a question. I wonder why the Samsung Apps (like Snotes, etc....) dosen't work in CM 10s rom.
Defintily i realy love CM 10 but the plus of our GN7100 is the Spen. So i tested all the 3rd party apps like GNote, Google agenda etc...but the Spen is not so integrated than with The others ROM
Is there any possibility to see in the future the Sapps on a CM Rom ?
Thanks by advance for your answer
I also want the apps to be in cm 10
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+1.
No. Period.
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Those apps needs proprietary code embedded in touchwiz framework in order to work.. So you most likely won't ever see those apps running outside touchwiz
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Those apps needs proprietary code embedded in touchwiz framework in order to work.. So you most likely won't ever see those apps running outside touchwiz
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Well seriously if a dev could cook a Snote like (a really one....) despite the copyright it would be great really a lot of GN 2 owner would migrate to cm 10....But perfect world don't exist i guess.
Thank for answering mate
Edit: a,d the multi windows mod dosen't work neither ?
I said no. Period.
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Ju973 said:
Well seriously if a dev could cook a Snote like (a really one....) despite the copyright it would be great really a lot of GN 2 owner would migrate to cm 10....But perfect world don't exist i guess.
Thank for answering mate
Edit: a,d the multi windows mod dosen't work neither ?
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Every cool feature you see on touchwiz are tied to touchwiz framework... Best you can do its to get a bloat free minimal custom touchwiz rom, put some launcher nova like on it.. Use the AOSP icons, and that's the closest you will be to have sort of AOSP sized and themed rom with touchwiz features
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Every cool feature you see on touchwiz are tied to touchwiz framework... Best you can do its to get a bloat free minimal custom touchwiz rom, put some launcher nova like on it.. Use the AOSP icons, and that's the closest you will be to have sort of AOSP sized and themed rom with touchwiz features
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@msedek
Thanks for answering....Okay so i will have to choose between CM10 and AOSP Rom....hard choice ......i don't have found an apps like Snote i will follow your advice. Thanks again for your answer....
Ju.
Running ParanoidKangDroid v.2.30 ROM. I'd like to have the hand gestures that come with TouchWiz. Is there a possible way to have this on my ROM?
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you should try to keep all your questions in 1 post. you'll actually get better help that way.
you are on an AOSP rom. you want TW features which are woven into the stock firmware's framework. its essentially a choice: a few TW features vs custom AOSP optimizations. both can share some similar customizations, but not everything is interchangeable.
Any of the feature on TW WILL NOT WORK ON ANYTHING BESIDES TW.....
None!
They're dependant on touchwiz and won't work on anything else.
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xBeerdroiDx said:
you should try to keep all your questions in 1 post. you'll actually get better help that way.
you are on an AOSP rom. you want TW features which are woven into the stock firmware's framework. its essentially a choice: a few TW features vs custom AOSP optimizations. both can share some similar customizations, but not everything is interchangeable.
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Any of the feature on TW WILL NOT WORK ON ANYTHING BESIDES TW.....
None!
They're dependant on touchwiz and won't work on anything else.
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Thank you both! It would be awesome if someone could somehow port that over to AOKP or AOSP. But anywho I appreciate the advice guys!
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Thank you both! It would be awesome if someone could somehow port that over to AOKP or AOSP. But anywho I appreciate the advice guys!
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As long as source code for TW stays unreleased its impossible to port. That's why no devs bother to try and port. Its going in blindfolded. Same with Sense and other UI overlays. So when Samsung releases source code it'll be possible.
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What features exactly? There's apps like Wave Control that do similar things...
Ya, there are a lot of apps that allow TouchWiz like features. There is a MMS apk for AOSP roms that has the while in messaging put phone to ear for Direct Dial. Just search in the playstore TouchWiz or galaxy s III things like that.
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Ya, there are a lot of apps that allow TouchWiz like features. There is a MMS apk for AOSP roms that has the while in messaging put phone to ear for Direct Dial. Just search in the playstore TouchWiz or galaxy s III things like that.
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Well for that particular feature, I recently discovered that Liquidsmooth (and quite possibly CM, as well as JellyBam and others) have this feature in the settings for the stock messaging application. It's the last setting, labelled as "Direct Dial", but it's pretty inconsistent with the auto-dialing. I've noticed that when I'm laying down and attempt to call it won't work because if I put the phone to my ear the screen just flips to landscape view, and stays on. When I'm up right it tends to work, however I haven't had many opportunities to test this out yet.
That would be sweet if someone got two working with aosp, they need to release the code...