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Do we have to use touchwiz to benefit from the S pen features?

Or will they still work in nova launcher? (obviously still on a Sammy rom, not aosp)
Thanks

You obviously still can use all the features with another launcher, you just have to use stock apps (video player, email, gallery, dialer ... etc)

To make use of spen features,you only need those tw frameworks.You may use spen features on any launcher provided you have those frameworks.
And as you said,it will work on Sammy based roms only.It won't work on AOSP,AOKP roms as they lack tw frameworks.....
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As others have mentioned before, you can use any launcher.
But for the S-Pen functionality, you need to use the stock apps provided by Samsung.
You "might" lose out on some of the functionality, if you change the launcher. This is just my guess.

gsainath4u said:
You "might" lose out on some of the functionality, if you change the launcher. This is just my guess.
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I just thought of quick command, I think it only works on TW's home screens and app drawer.

Thanks, to be honest I doubt I'll use the s pen too much anyway, just want the big screen - I find my s3 too small!

So it means no SPen apps on custom roms??? I love changing my roms. Its kind of a deal breaker for me.
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shamps said:
So it means no SPen apps on custom roms??? I love changing my roms. Its kind of a deal breaker for me.
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It will work on TW-based custom roms but on AOSP/AOKP it will behave just like your finger, no pressure sensitivity and such.

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It will work on TW-based custom roms but on AOSP/AOKP it will behave just like your finger, no pressure sensitivity and such.
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And no spen button support
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Should I be concerned about this? Do note owners miss the s pen on cm roms ot its not a big deal?
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Hello All
Should I be concerned about this? Do note owners miss the s pen on cm roms ot its not a big deal?
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So it means no SPen apps on custom roms??? I love changing my roms. Its kind of a deal breaker for me.
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No... There is an App called *G-Note* ( Just like the stock S-Memo app ) that comes with the CM10 PA Based Hybrid JB Rom that I run.. works great!
You obviously still can use all the features with another launcher, you just have to use stock apps
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The Launcher makes no difference.. And Google Play will let you know if an app you want to download is "Incompatable" I use Go Launcher Ex and swear by it.. Hopes this help answer your questions

Didn't Jelly bean add native support for stylus's?

crazy talk said:
Didn't Jelly bean add native support for stylus's?
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Ics did
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wait so pressure sensitivity only works with default apps? so it wont work with any drawing apps from the market?

Hell Guardian said:
wait so pressure sensitivity only works with default apps? so it wont work with any drawing apps from the market?
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For apps that support pressure sensitivity it will work just fine (take a look at the note 10.1 forum for some examples), but I THINK you still need to be on a TW based rom. I'm not sure though, too bad I no longer have my Note 1 to check it.

i ordinarily flash straight to pure aosp from whatever manufacturer paint job the phone comes with (sense, touchwiz, blur), but after watching the hands on video i may actually stay stock with the note 2, my only reason for switching from stock on my gs3 was ICS/big red not pushing out JB, but the s-pen functions look so good.

Hell Guardian said:
wait so pressure sensitivity only works with default apps? so it wont work with any drawing apps from the market?
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I've not found any apps on the market that support pressure with my Flyer.

[Q] Porting Touchwiz Apps to CM10

Hello I would like to know some things about porting Touchwiz Apps to AOSP or CM..
Why there's a port for the Touchwiz Launcher and there can't be a port of Camera or Gallery app for example because those are the ones I would like to have
How it's possible or "legal" to port the Launcher and not the rest of the apps that what I read that illegal to use Touchwiz libs or something but how Launcher? for Example I have Touchwiz Launcher on my phone with CM10 and I would like to have camera and gallery
If its possible to port it? can someone tell me please how to do it
I want camera & gallery apps from samsung because they are a lot better that Original Apps and I dont want to go to Samsung Android..
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Thanks !

.... who is porting Touchwiz launcher? All of the Touchwiz-based ROM's you see in the Android Development section, be it running ICS or JB, are based on either official builds of ICS, or leaked/ported builds of JB. I've yet to see a PORT of anything TouchWiz on a custom ROM.
Android Development = Samsung build leaks/ports
Original Android Development = CM/AOSP builds.

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.... who is porting Touchwiz launcher? All of the Touchwiz-based ROM's you see in the Android Development section, be it running ICS or JB, are based on either official builds of ICS, or leaked/ported builds of JB. I've yet to see a PORT of anything TouchWiz on a custom ROM.
Android Development = Samsung build leaks/ports
Original Android Development = CM/AOSP builds.
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No man sorry that's not what Im trying to say
What I trying to explain is that you can find here on XDA the Touchwiz launcher ported for other phones.. and I want a ported gallery and camera app that's what i mean

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No man sorry that's not what Im trying to say
What I trying to explain is that you can find here on XDA the Touchwiz launcher ported for other phones.. and I want a ported gallery and camera app that's what i mean
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apparently drewgaren claims he's working on "porting touchwiz apps" to cm10. so lets see how far that'll go. and it requires alot of libs and framework stuff to be cross compiled and then alot of trial and error and then profit. till then .......

Well Now that it is possible to decompile the split back to java it could be easier to do it.
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Well Now that it is possible to decompile the split back to java it could be easier to do it.
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i guess you're not aware of the legal side of stuff using touchwiz stuff on custom rom? good luck googling it and you wonder if its possible. it is but the amount of time you're gonna put in porting all those things could take 2 years. i remember back in xperia x10 days one of the guy was working on porting sony camera and stuff onto a cm7 rom and after 1 year it was still wonky. so go figure. and then he just said forget it.

Yea... there's that to deal with, too. Google doesn't even want Google Apps pre-installed on Cyanogenmod ROM's... so i can't imagine what Sammy's take would be on porting their camera and such to CM roms.

I'm not sure about the s3, but i think on the captivate you could use twlauncher on cm7. You don't get any of the widgets or features though. I personally don't see why you would want to.
I'm with you on wanting the camera. This is the one thing i really miss when I'm on an aosp rom. I compared my wife's camera to mine while i was on cm10. The colors are slightly off (maybe white balance) and the focus time was slower on cm. There are other great camera apps like procapture that will give you more functionality similar to the tw camera.
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i guess you're not aware of the legal side of stuff using touchwiz stuff on custom rom? good luck googling it and you wonder if its possible. it is but the amount of time you're gonna put in porting all those things could take 2 years. i remember back in xperia x10 days one of the guy was working on porting sony camera and stuff onto a cm7 rom and after 1 year it was still wonky. so go figure. and then he just said forget it.
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I am aware if that.
And as far as I know some one had the player working but had a problem with Samsung specific path that the app needed and he couldn't change then since they where hardcoded
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I'm not sure about the s3, but i think on the captivate you could use twlauncher on cm7. You don't get any of the widgets or features though. I personally don't see why you would want to.
I'm with you on wanting the camera. This is the one thing i really miss when I'm on an aosp rom. I compared my wife's camera to mine while i was on cm10. The colors are slightly off (maybe white balance) and the focus time was slower on cm. There are other great camera apps like procapture that will give you more functionality similar to the tw camera.
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Im with you on that one. Ive tried a few other ROMS and they are very good and I do like them. But I miss my stock camera too much so I always go back to a ROM with stick camera.

I wanted S Memo and Video Player cause CM10 doesn't have those type of apps and I think these are better developed than the similar apps on the play store. Besides, I like original stock apps compared to 3rd party apps.

Has anyone actually done this / can provide guidance?
I'm looking to port the video player, clock and yahoo news widget(live wallpaper) from the stock samsung rom over to a cm10 base.

What are the possibilities of an AOKP/CM/Paranoid and TouchWiz hybrid?

I love the features of various source developed ROMs like AOKP, CM, or Paranoid Android. But at the same time I'm so used to certain Touchwiz things, like the calendar, dialer, browser...
What's the likelihood that someone could move the TW framework and apps over to a source-based ROM? Is it possible? Would it be stable? Or should I just find third party apps and move on with my life?

Some people have been able to port some, not all, of the TW apps but as far as everything else, it's never going to happen. People have wasted hundreds of hours and gotten no where.
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I would love to see something like this, but I'm realistic and know its probably not possible.
I can continue to dream about seeing the touchwiz camera on cm10 though, right?
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If someone could just get the TW camera ported to AOSP, that would be awesome!

There have been a few in the past that were TW base but had some AOKP things added. But they arent up to date anymore

I know that jellybam has a touchwiz launcher but not the touchwiz apps. Plus i don't know how stable that rom is at the moment.

I've talked with johnsondr80 over at The Collective some time ago, and they apparently looked into merging TW into their ROM, and apparently it became apparent as to how incredibly massive it was going to be to do that. Apparently TW is interwoven throughout the entire ROM, and in essence would require (pretty much) a build from scratch........ I'm not a dev, so I could've misunderstood. But it sounded like it was was too much work for the benefits

Face Of Boe said:
I love the features of various source developed ROMs like AOKP, CM, or Paranoid Android. But at the same time I'm so used to certain Touchwiz things, like the calendar, dialer, browser...
What's the likelihood that someone could move the TW framework and apps over to a source-based ROM? Is it possible? Would it be stable? Or should I just find third party apps and move on with my life?
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Not possible. It is not open source
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AOSP ROM and S-Pen apps

Hi, I will get my Note 2 in the next days and before I get it I'm reading a lot about how to flash ROMs, I've always had Motorola phones so Samsung flashing is a completely new world for me. I've read that if you flash an AOSP based ROM you will lose all the S-Pen apps and stuff, obviously I will test all those apps before I flash, but I really don't like the TouchWiz interface so in the near future I will change it to AOSP, is there a way to install all those S-Pen/Samsung apps in a fresh AOSP ROM?
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No. But you can download papyrus from the play store. Its a note taking app. Its mentioned tons of times in tons of posts that spen apps will not work or be in aosp ROMs because they are touch wiz based.
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No. But you can download papyrus from the play store. Its a note taking app. Its mentioned tons of times in tons of posts that spen apps will not work or be in aosp ROMs because they are touch wiz based.
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Thank you! I Will try that app when I get the phone.

You can also stay on a tw rom and just use a different launcher. Then you are not stuck with the tw interface, but can still use the s pen apps
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[Q] Can you get "Samsung" hand gestures on TW?

Running ParanoidKangDroid v.2.30 ROM. I'd like to have the hand gestures that come with TouchWiz. Is there a possible way to have this on my ROM?
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you should try to keep all your questions in 1 post. you'll actually get better help that way.
you are on an AOSP rom. you want TW features which are woven into the stock firmware's framework. its essentially a choice: a few TW features vs custom AOSP optimizations. both can share some similar customizations, but not everything is interchangeable.

Any of the feature on TW WILL NOT WORK ON ANYTHING BESIDES TW.....
None!
They're dependant on touchwiz and won't work on anything else.
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xBeerdroiDx said:
you should try to keep all your questions in 1 post. you'll actually get better help that way.
you are on an AOSP rom. you want TW features which are woven into the stock firmware's framework. its essentially a choice: a few TW features vs custom AOSP optimizations. both can share some similar customizations, but not everything is interchangeable.
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Any of the feature on TW WILL NOT WORK ON ANYTHING BESIDES TW.....
None!
They're dependant on touchwiz and won't work on anything else.
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Thank you both! It would be awesome if someone could somehow port that over to AOKP or AOSP. But anywho I appreciate the advice guys!

dreammaster252 said:
Thank you both! It would be awesome if someone could somehow port that over to AOKP or AOSP. But anywho I appreciate the advice guys!
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As long as source code for TW stays unreleased its impossible to port. That's why no devs bother to try and port. Its going in blindfolded. Same with Sense and other UI overlays. So when Samsung releases source code it'll be possible.
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What features exactly? There's apps like Wave Control that do similar things...

Ya, there are a lot of apps that allow TouchWiz like features. There is a MMS apk for AOSP roms that has the while in messaging put phone to ear for Direct Dial. Just search in the playstore TouchWiz or galaxy s III things like that.

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Ya, there are a lot of apps that allow TouchWiz like features. There is a MMS apk for AOSP roms that has the while in messaging put phone to ear for Direct Dial. Just search in the playstore TouchWiz or galaxy s III things like that.
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Well for that particular feature, I recently discovered that Liquidsmooth (and quite possibly CM, as well as JellyBam and others) have this feature in the settings for the stock messaging application. It's the last setting, labelled as "Direct Dial", but it's pretty inconsistent with the auto-dialing. I've noticed that when I'm laying down and attempt to call it won't work because if I put the phone to my ear the screen just flips to landscape view, and stays on. When I'm up right it tends to work, however I haven't had many opportunities to test this out yet.

That would be sweet if someone got two working with aosp, they need to release the code...