Here's my problem; I've never been able to have a perfect carbon copy of my nand restore that I back up. The rom restores just fine, but all my apps besides like one are gone, and gapps is all messed up, play store doesn't work, can't flash gapps over rom, just ugh. Tried restoring 3 times now, wiping a different way each time. Anyone know what I'm not doing right?
What all do you have checked to back up?
Also, no wiping is needed when you restore a backup.
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much
FinZ28 said:
What all do you have checked to back up?
Also, no wiping is needed when you restore a backup.
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much
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Boot
Data
System
Recovery
.android-secure
Wimax
CyanJustice said:
Boot
Data
System
Recovery
.android-secure
Wimax
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Been awhile since I've looked at Smelkus. You mentioned wiping. When and what are you wiping?
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Wiping everything but sd card before I restore, other times I've tried just factory format along with cache and dalvik wipes. Same difference.
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Like was said, no need to wipe before a Nand Restore. Also you need to check off sd.ext as one of the things you want to restore. That could be where all your apps are.
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Thanks, haven't tried yet but sure it will work, makes sense to me. New to smelkus, been using cwm for years.
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I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
thenags said:
I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
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what kind of little things.. whenever i do a nandroid restore.. everything that was there before is still there
Clipt said:
what kind of little things.. whenever i do a nandroid restore.. everything that was there before is still there
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+1...are you performing the backup from the recovery screen or using the adb commands? What recovery are you using, CWM or RA? I know CWM was missing things when performing a wipe so maybe the same holds true for performing a NAND backup? I am using RA and I have not run into this problem.
Off the top of my head.. I always have to reset my Handcent message ringtones and Exchange account information.
Maybe I was a bit frustrated when I typed 'SO MUCH'. But it definitely misses some stuff.
I use Clockwork
thenags said:
I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
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Well your impression was wrong I guess?
JavaIV said:
+1...are you performing the backup from the recovery screen or using the adb commands? What recovery are you using, CWM or RA? I know CWM was missing things when performing a wipe so maybe the same holds true for performing a NAND backup? I am using RA and I have not run into this problem.
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Again, are you sure CWM was missing things during wipe, or are you just repeating what you've heard? I assume you're talking about dalvik-cache, and my testing shows that this is NOT true.
Oh, and I always lose my custom dictionary too.
and your backup is up-to-date?
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I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
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It backs up absolutely everything. You must have used an old backup.
SilverZero said:
Again, are you sure CWM was missing things during wipe, or are you just repeating what you've heard? I assume you're talking about dalvik-cache, and my testing shows that this is NOT true.
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Well from my experiments cwm doesn't wipe dalvik. When I did a wipe and flashed fresh 0.5.3 I was stuck in loop
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and your backup is up-to-date?
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Yep. It's the very last thing I do before flashing a new rom
while were on topic...
so proper nandroid backing up is..
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik
THEN do nandoid backup?
or is it.. do nandroid backup first THEN do all the butt wiping?
no no no, backup first then wipe. Otherwise you are backing up a blank phone pretty much
...For OP, not sure but is it possible the application data like handcent is not stored on the phone but in the cloud? Or maybe on the sd card and it does not link the old settings file? Are you using app2sd?
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no no no, backup first then wipe. Otherwise you are backing up a blank phone pretty much
...For OP, not sure but is it possible the application data like handcent is not stored on the phone but in the cloud? Or maybe on the sd card and it does not link the old settings file? Are you using app2sd?
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Nope. Haven't tried app2sd yet
Well, then the only thing else I can offer is using titanium backup or the like. What rom are you using when you did the backup?
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Well from my experiments cwm doesn't wipe dalvik. When I did a wipe and flashed fresh 0.5.3 I was stuck in loop
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Did you check to see if the dalvik cache was still there after the wipe? Because it resides within the data folder, so doing a data wipe automatically wipes the dalvik-cache folder anyway.
Unless there is something else related to dalvik that is outside of the /data directory.
Are/were you using a current version of CWM?
I've searched other threads but they were lacking so I thought Id try for the evo. I like many others am addicted to flashing roms. I make backups and restore and they complete fine. When I go to boot a restore it gets to the boot animation and just keeps cycling the boot animation. It seems to happen across different roms. I tried doing a complete factory restore with an pc36img re-rooted and found I'm still having the same issue. Any ideas? Thanks for the help.
You didn't make any changes to the file?
I chanaged to folder name, but this never used to be a problem. I use root explorer or plug in the phone usb mass storage, rename the folder that holds the backup. I don't usually have a problem. But it seems to be a constant problem now.
When you renamed did you put spaces or all together? Make sure there are no spaces.
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I chanaged to folder name, but this never used to be a problem. I use root explorer or plug in the phone usb mass storage, rename the folder that holds the backup. I don't usually have a problem. But it seems to be a constant problem now.
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re-rename them, but you can't use spaces. Periods, hyphens, and underscores are fine though.
Also remember to wipe cache and dalvik after restoring, and give it a good ten minutes to do the initial boot.
i just do simple rename like rom04, no spaces or dashes, it says it restores it, I don't know if I wipe the dalvick after the restore, I'll try that.
Were your backups made with the same recovery you're trying to restore them with?
Your post implies you're not using an evo, in which case I dunno what recovery you're using, and thus how to help troubleshoot. More info.
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I have an evo and all my backups and restores come from the same recovery which is amon-ra 2.3. I've tried formatting my sdcard and then restoring. Last night I did a restore and went to bed while it was booting, I woke up later in the night and the phone was dead. I'm beginning to wonder if there is something wrong in the phone. It's a replacement phone I got about three weeks ago, but I was able to do restores/backups that were fine. It just started all of a sudden that it won't boot after recovery says it restore complete. The phone has some speaker issues and every time and place or recieve a call it starts on speaker phone. Unless someone has other ideas. I did rename the file after the inital rename. No luck. Any other ideas, other then whats already been mentioned above?
are you trying to restore backups you made with your previous phone?? like copied them off the sd card to computer, got new phone, copied onto new phones sd card, and tried to restore?...if so thats not a good idea
No same phone, I got a replacement about 3 weeks ago, I did backups and restores with no issues. I didn't change anything or do anything different I would normally due. Its a new issue. The restore was made and restored from the same phone and the same sd card.
Didn't work door me either , I made a recovery and about 1 hr later tried to recover but for some reason it didn't work .
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Well, Insanity is repeating the same thing over and over expecting different results, needless to say I tried restoring again from a fresh restore of king coco. Low and behold it worked this time. Here's what I did
Full wipe including system, restore, wipe dalvick, reboot. It actually booted in like 4 minutes. This might be a localized incident, as you know I have to keep tempting fate and continue the insanity.....
Anyone got a fix for that ?
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I think the corruption occurs because of a mismatch in the caches after the restore vs when the backup was done.
That is, normally neither cache nor dalvik cache is wiped when a backup is performed. Depending on your setup with a2sd and possible other tweaks like moving the cache, some portions may get backed up.
So, two solutions.
1) do a cache/dalvik cache wipe before doing the backup
or
2) do a cache/dalvik cache wipe after doing the restore, but before the initial boot
Thx ;-)
I will make a new nand backup & gonna wipe the cache/dalvik before .
Will I still need to wipe after the restore?
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oranium said:
Thx ;-)
I will make a new nand backup & gonna wipe the cache/dalvik before .
Will I still need to wipe after the restore?
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I personally never wipe before or after making a backup/restore. But no, you don't need to wipe after restoring, since it restored the old cache.
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But no, you don't need to wipe after restoring, since it restored the old cache.
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Who backs up their cache?
What exactly do I need to back up using ra2.3 ?
Boot, system, data are checked when going into nand backup
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What exactly do I need to back up using ra2.3 ?
Boot, system, data are checked when going into nand backup
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It's good to have a couple backups with the 'wimax' included. That backs up your RSA keys, and includes that in the backup when you have that checked off. It's recommended to have a good backup of your wimax.img in a safe place, preferably on your pc somewhere. That way if you ever lose your RSA keys for 4g, you'll have a backup of them. Other than that, just the 3 that are checked is all that's necessary. You don't need to backup the wimax every time if you don't want to, as long as you have a good backup of them somehwere.
My two favorite roms are Fresh and CM6. I would like to be able to jump between the two whenever the spirit moves me. However, whenever I try to nandroid restore to a Fresh backup from any AOSP rom, i get stuck in a bootloop and have to rewipe and flash everything in order to get back, therefore making my Fresh backup useless. Before flashing any new rom, I always do a full data, cache, and dalvik wipe. I am I missing something here?? Shouldn't I be able to flash a rom (aosp or sense), get it setup with programs the way I want them, screens setup, etc. Then make nandroid backups and jump back and forth restoring them whenever I want?? Please help
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My two favorite roms are Fresh and CM6. I would like to be able to jump between the two whenever the spirit moves me. However, whenever I try to nandroid restore to a Fresh backup from any AOSP rom, i get stuck in a bootloop and have to rewipe and flash everything in order to get back, therefore making my Fresh backup useless. Before flashing any new rom, I always do a full data, cache, and dalvik wipe. I am I missing something here?? Shouldn't I be able to flash a rom (aosp or sense), get it setup with programs the way I want them, screens setup, etc. Then make nandroid backups and jump back and forth restoring them whenever I want?? Please help
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After nandroid make sure to re wipe cache and dalvik
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You might be having the same issue I was; what recovery are you on? It happened to me when I was amon ra 2.2.1 so I switched to 2.3.1 amon and I stopped getting tons of bootloops. P.S I never have to wipe anything when flashing nandroids and never had an issue. My issue was the recovery.
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You might be having the same issue I was; what recovery are you on? It happened to me when I was amon ra 2.2.1 so I switched to 2.3.1 amon and I stopped getting tons of bootloops. P.S I never have to wipe anything when flashing nandroids and never had an issue. My issue was the recovery.
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I am currently running RA-supersonic-v2.3. Yesterday I did another backup of my most current Fresh setup but this time I also backed up the cache and sd-ext options in the recovery menu and I didn't have a problem nandroid restoring back after flashing an AOSP rom. I don't know, I think my phone is possessed!
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After nandroid make sure to re wipe cache and dalvik
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This is unnecessary...
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This is unnecessary...
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In most cases I would agree, but if the OP is running any sort of ext a2sd, contents of cache/dalvik cache are not entirely restored, and clearing them after restore, but before reboot is a good idea.
I just ran aosp rom for the first time for a few days. When I nanded back to airborne (sense), I flashed a sense kernel before the nand restore just out of fear of remnants. Dont know if its necessary.
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when I want to Nandroid on Amon_Ra's recovery, which options should I select in order to make a complete backup like Clockwork did?
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-Will
Depends, if you want absolutely everything backed up and you have the space then check them all.
Really, there's no need to check cache, .android_secure, or sd-ext if you're just dealing with wiping your phone and not wiping your SDCARD.
I usually just check Boot, System, Wimax and Data.
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Depends, if you want absolutely everything backed up and you have the space then check them all.
Really, there's no need to check cache, .android_secure, or sd-ext if you're just dealing with wiping your phone and not wiping your SDCARD.
I usually just check Boot, System, Wimax and Data.
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Yup..i always restore apps via titanium backup...i only made one backup of wimax then copied it over, so it saves more space.
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i only made one backup of wimax then copied it over, so it saves more space.
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Yeah, it is best to have you wimax.img somewhere safe.
I do, have it in my dropbox but I also back it up each time just for fun.
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Yeah, it is best to have you wimax.img somewhere safe.
I do, have it in my dropbox but I also back it up each time just for fun.
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Now dropbox is a good idea lol. And if it keeps your boat afloat, sail with it.
After Wimax etc. Are done, nands for me are what's already checked and SD ext. Since I'm using a partitioned SD card for synergy. Also you can wipe cache and dalvik cache before nand for a quicker back up.
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I always backup everything except Cache
back everything up then publish your wimax key to us. lol!
Running MIUI and want to check out CM7, I've never done a Nandroid backup ever, so what should I backup when it prompts me because I tried but wasn't sure what to select
Boot system data Wimax also backup up sdext ONLY IF YOUR PARTITIONED if your not just those four I listed
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Boot system data Wimax also backup up sdext ONLY IF YOUR PARTITIONED if your not just those four I listed
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thank you sir!
You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
teh roxxorz said:
You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
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thank you as well
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thank you as well
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All in a days work, good citizen.
teh roxxorz said:
You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
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So is this what I would do still if I was running a sense ROM with dark tremor a2sd? And just wipe the ext when I flash a new ROM ?
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Goobertime said:
So is this what I would do still if I was running a sense ROM with dark tremor a2sd? And just wipe the ext when I flash a new ROM ?
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Correct, do the wipes I listed previously, and the sd ext [if you're partitioned].
No intentions for redundancy, but just adding my 2 pennies. I prefer Amon Ra Recovery and withing the Bootloader screen go down to recovery which is under fastboot, then you should be directed to the Recovery menu, there you should see an option labeled Backup/Restore, within this folder should be an option labeled nandroid backup. Cheers to your successful backup.
Okay, thank you good sir
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Personally, I backup everything except cache. I want the restore, when I need it, to be complete, and it's worked out that way every time.
I also store all my Nandroid backups to the PC, just in case sumthin' happens to the sdcard