[Q] How to Nandroid Backup - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Running MIUI and want to check out CM7, I've never done a Nandroid backup ever, so what should I backup when it prompts me because I tried but wasn't sure what to select

Boot system data Wimax also backup up sdext ONLY IF YOUR PARTITIONED if your not just those four I listed
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evo4gnoob said:
Boot system data Wimax also backup up sdext ONLY IF YOUR PARTITIONED if your not just those four I listed
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thank you sir!

You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.

teh roxxorz said:
You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
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thank you as well

ZombiiBite said:
thank you as well
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All in a days work, good citizen.

teh roxxorz said:
You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
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So is this what I would do still if I was running a sense ROM with dark tremor a2sd? And just wipe the ext when I flash a new ROM ?
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Goobertime said:
So is this what I would do still if I was running a sense ROM with dark tremor a2sd? And just wipe the ext when I flash a new ROM ?
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Correct, do the wipes I listed previously, and the sd ext [if you're partitioned].

No intentions for redundancy, but just adding my 2 pennies. I prefer Amon Ra Recovery and withing the Bootloader screen go down to recovery which is under fastboot, then you should be directed to the Recovery menu, there you should see an option labeled Backup/Restore, within this folder should be an option labeled nandroid backup. Cheers to your successful backup.

Okay, thank you good sir
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Personally, I backup everything except cache. I want the restore, when I need it, to be complete, and it's worked out that way every time.

I also store all my Nandroid backups to the PC, just in case sumthin' happens to the sdcard

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How come nandroid backup misses so much?

I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
thenags said:
I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
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what kind of little things.. whenever i do a nandroid restore.. everything that was there before is still there
Clipt said:
what kind of little things.. whenever i do a nandroid restore.. everything that was there before is still there
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+1...are you performing the backup from the recovery screen or using the adb commands? What recovery are you using, CWM or RA? I know CWM was missing things when performing a wipe so maybe the same holds true for performing a NAND backup? I am using RA and I have not run into this problem.
Off the top of my head.. I always have to reset my Handcent message ringtones and Exchange account information.
Maybe I was a bit frustrated when I typed 'SO MUCH'. But it definitely misses some stuff.
I use Clockwork
thenags said:
I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
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Well your impression was wrong I guess?
JavaIV said:
+1...are you performing the backup from the recovery screen or using the adb commands? What recovery are you using, CWM or RA? I know CWM was missing things when performing a wipe so maybe the same holds true for performing a NAND backup? I am using RA and I have not run into this problem.
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Again, are you sure CWM was missing things during wipe, or are you just repeating what you've heard? I assume you're talking about dalvik-cache, and my testing shows that this is NOT true.
Oh, and I always lose my custom dictionary too.
and your backup is up-to-date?
thenags said:
I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
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It backs up absolutely everything. You must have used an old backup.
SilverZero said:
Again, are you sure CWM was missing things during wipe, or are you just repeating what you've heard? I assume you're talking about dalvik-cache, and my testing shows that this is NOT true.
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Well from my experiments cwm doesn't wipe dalvik. When I did a wipe and flashed fresh 0.5.3 I was stuck in loop
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elegantai said:
and your backup is up-to-date?
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Yep. It's the very last thing I do before flashing a new rom
while were on topic...
so proper nandroid backing up is..
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik
THEN do nandoid backup?
or is it.. do nandroid backup first THEN do all the butt wiping?
no no no, backup first then wipe. Otherwise you are backing up a blank phone pretty much
...For OP, not sure but is it possible the application data like handcent is not stored on the phone but in the cloud? Or maybe on the sd card and it does not link the old settings file? Are you using app2sd?
elegantai said:
no no no, backup first then wipe. Otherwise you are backing up a blank phone pretty much
...For OP, not sure but is it possible the application data like handcent is not stored on the phone but in the cloud? Or maybe on the sd card and it does not link the old settings file? Are you using app2sd?
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Nope. Haven't tried app2sd yet
Well, then the only thing else I can offer is using titanium backup or the like. What rom are you using when you did the backup?
gangsterholla179 said:
Well from my experiments cwm doesn't wipe dalvik. When I did a wipe and flashed fresh 0.5.3 I was stuck in loop
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Did you check to see if the dalvik cache was still there after the wipe? Because it resides within the data folder, so doing a data wipe automatically wipes the dalvik-cache folder anyway.
Unless there is something else related to dalvik that is outside of the /data directory.
Are/were you using a current version of CWM?

Hey Guys...HELP WITH "APP2SD" PLEASE !!!!

Hey whats up guys?
so......Im not really new here guys, But i am new to APP2SD....i partitioned my card for the KINGDOM ROM which turned out to be really cool. Everything went GREAT with the partition, I followed VIRUS direction to the "T".......now i deleted all my old backups because i was told that some files may be corrupt and what not, so i made 2 backups of the B3 ROM from virus.....to try to make a long story short, when i restore one or the other of the backups i have, the APPS that required ROOT, tells me they cant find ROOT>....and believe me...im ROOTED LOL.....im not that lost.....i was even given a command for TE......"app2sd--cachesd"......and the PERMISSION WERE DEINED ACCROSS THE BOARD......now i can get to the titanium backup's =main screen and it shows i have APP2SD= 1.91mb........so im guess the app2sd isnt installing the apps onto my SDcard...im not sure if i have to move every app to my SDcard myself...not sure if that the issues....but to me something sounds wrong....ya know, ive deleted all the apps and re-installed them....i even installed them from amazon...NO GO....so if i RE-Flash, the apps will work...cause i setup my phone with TB.....but its after when i RESTORE my backup, that everything goes screwy...ohh and i am backing up SDtext.....and wiping it if i flash another ROM or restore a differnet backup.......Cant really find any info on anyne having this same problem....This is the first time im actually making my first thread so go easy on me LOL......thanks alots guys...I really appreciate it...
EDIT:.....ohh and all my apps sometimes show up in SU and they are allowed.....and SU is updated
JON
I'm not sure I quite follow you, but, if you have the time, try this: after you've gotten your rom setup how you like it, reboot into recovery. Hopefully, you're using amon RA v2.3 as your recovery. If so, go to the wipe menu and wipe the cache & dalvik. After that, go to the backup/restore menu and, in addition to what is already selected to be backed up, select sdext and .android.secure. now create the backup and afterwards, reboot. Now to test it out, for back into recovery, wipe EVERYTHING in the wipe menu EXCEPT the SD card and then go to the backup/restore menu and restore the backup you just made. If using amon RA, the name of the backup *should* have a BSDEA beginning or something to that extent. Afterwards, reboot. Your system *should* restore back to the way it was without any problems.
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dougjamal said:
I'm not sure I quite follow you, but, if you have the time, try this: after you've gotten your rom setup how you like it, reboot into recovery. Hopefully, you're using amon RA v2.3 as your recovery. If so, go to the wipe menu and wipe the cache & dalvik. After that, go to the backup/restore menu and, in addition to what is already selected to be backed up, select sdext and .android.secure. now create the backup and afterwards, reboot. Now to test it out, for back into recovery, wipe EVERYTHING in the wipe menu EXCEPT the SD card and then go to the backup/restore menu and restore the backup you just made. If using amon RA, the name of the backup *should* have a BSDEA beginning or something to that extent. Afterwards, reboot. Your system *should* restore back to the way it was without any problems.
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well thats something new.....hey thanks for the reply.......so i gotta run out the door for a few mins, but when i get back imma reflash B3 and try it....ohh and of course im on AMON..LOL....its wierd cause this never happened before....im usually pretty god with troubleshooting but this APP2SD is totally outta my realm.......but i will DEF give it a shot........thanks alot guy.....much appreciated
EDIT......so basically when i restore my backups after i set everything up with TB......all the apps that required root liek root explorer, TB, screenshot, ect cant wont grant me access cause it cant find ROOT on my phone.....real wierd.....
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well thats something new.....hey thanks for the reply.......so i gotta run out the door for a few mins, but when i get back imma reflash B3 and try it....ohh and of course im on AMON..LOL....its wierd cause this never happened before....im usually pretty god with troubleshooting but this APP2SD is totally outta my realm.......but i will DEF give it a shot........thanks alot guy.....much appreciated
EDIT......so basically when i restore my backups after i set everything up with TB......all the apps that required root liek root explorer, TB, screenshot, ect cant wont grant me access cause it cant find ROOT on my phone.....real wierd.....
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You're welcome. Let us know how it goes at your convenience.
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You're welcome. Let us know how it goes at your convenience.
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oh yea definately......im re-flashing as we speak......imma try and do all this while im dribing my daughter to her friends house LOL....that may be a lilttle hard, but no biggy HEHE.....ill ckeck back in a few......thanks again!!!!
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but one more before i go.....because i partitioned for ROMs that take app2sd......does that have to be activated after u flash the ROM?.....i know that may sound stupid, cause the SD acts as internal emmory
Yes, it does, but my focus is on making sure you can restore your nandroid backups without a hitch.
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but one more before i go.....because i partitioned for ROMs that take app2sd......does that have to be activated after u flash the ROM?.....i know that may sound stupid, cause the SD acts as internal emmory
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It will be automatically activated if whichever Rom you are flashing had it cooked into it
If it's not cooked into the ROM, then it must be activated ( by flashing the script via recovery, i think....) Sorry, in kinda new to aa2sd too
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It will be automatically activated if whichever Rom you are flashing had it cooked into it
If it's not cooked into the ROM, then it must be activated ( by flashing the script via recovery, i think....) Sorry, in kinda new to aa2sd too
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nah thats good to know...thanks alot man
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Yes, it does, but my focus is on making sure you can restore your nandroid backups without a hitch.
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well whata ya know...LOL......IT WORKED>....all my apps open wiht no problem now.....but all i did different here was wipe dalvik before i backed up....and select android secure along with SDtext.......cause all i usually select is SDtext........now the way i have been wiping could be the cause of it......i always use CAULKIN's format all....so i've benn suing that and just WIPING SDtext manually, and then restoring the backup.....that may have caused the problem as well.......well all i know is, what u told me worked.....and thats how i'll do it for now on as long as my SD is partioned.......thanks alot man....couldnt thank you enough......
Quick question here... What apps2sd app are you guys using? And how do I make it go to my partition in my sd card to act as internal memory as opposed to just the normal sd card?
reverepats said:
well whata ya know...LOL......IT WORKED>....all my apps open wiht no problem now.....but all i did different here was wipe dalvik before i backed up....and select android secure along with SDtext.......cause all i usually select is SDtext........now the way i have been wiping could be the cause of it......i always use CAULKIN's format all....so i've benn suing that and just WIPING SDtext manually, and then restoring the backup.....that may have caused the problem as well.......well all i know is, what u told me worked.....and thats how i'll do it for now on as long as my SD is partioned.......thanks alot man....couldnt thank you enough......
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You're very welcome. As for calkulin's format-all zip, I no longer use it because before flashing a rom, I wipe EVERYTHING in amon RA's (v2.3) wipe menu, EXCEPT the SD card, and I only have to do it once and I've never have a problem. Anyway, I'm glad you were able to get it taken care of. Take care and enjoy Mom's special day....
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Quick question here... What apps2sd app are you guys using? And how do I make it go to my partition in my sd card to act as internal memory as opposed to just the normal sd card?
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Personally, I don't use it, however, the app at the below link gets great reviews.
https://market.android.com/search?q=link2sd&so=1&c=apps
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You're very welcome. As for calkulin's format-all zip, I no longer use it because before flashing a rom, I wipe EVERYTHING in amon RA's (v2.3) wipe menu and I only have to do it once and I've never have a problem. Anyway, I'm glad you were able to get it taken care of. Take care and enjoy Mom's special day....
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Yeah see I bet the issue was from the format all.......yeah u also enjoy the day.....and thanks again
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Nandroid not working [solved ]

This just started recently nandroid isn't working for me .
I'm on amonra 2.3 and when I back up my rom then try and re flash it , it stays stuck on the white htc evo screen .
Can someone help me plz
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When you create a nandroid backup, I suggest doing the following, if you aren't:
1. Wipe Cache & Dalvik
2. Create the nandroid using the default settings as well as android.secure
3. Reboot to your homescreen, but know that the initial boot will take some time.
When restoring the backup, I suggest doing the following. NO, it is NOT necessary to wipe before restoring, but I do anyway.
1. Wipe EVERYTHING except the SD card.
2. Restore the backup
3. Reboot to your homescreen.
If you've renamed the FOLDER that the nandroid backups are stored in, you will NOT be able to restore until you revert to the Original Name.
If you've renamed the backups themselves, make sure you DO NOT use special characters in the name or your restore will fail.
I've been using nandroid back up for a while now but I just started having this issue .
It won't even boot tho it stays on the white htc evo screen
I have even tried flashing the rom on top of the back up but it doesn't work .
The only way I can flash a rom is by starting fresh
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What I noticed is that I can restore older back ups but any recent back ups wont restore
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
What I noticed is that I can restore older back ups but any recent back ups wont restore
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Seems like they may be corrupted, or incomplete.
Did you recently partition your sd card for some of the new ROMs? Not backing "sdext" up and not wiping that before restores could be causing your problems
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Did you recently partition your sd card for some of the new ROMs? Not backing "sdext" up and not wiping that before restores could be causing your problems
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Yea actually I did recently partition sd
So how do I back up sd ext ? And how do I wipe ?
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
Yea actually I did recently partition sd
So how do I back up sd ext ? And how do I wipe ?
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When you make your backups, it usually has data, boot, and system checked by default... to backup your partitions, also checkmark the box next to 'sdext" ... and to wipe your sdext, from the wipe menu, scroll down to sdext and wipe it. Just be sure you don't chose sdcard
You'll notice your backups with the sdext also backed up will have a slightly different name... old ones started with BDS... which is "B"oot, "D"ata, and "S"ystem... backups with the sdext added in will start with BDES, can you guess what the "E" is?
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When you make your backups, it usually has data, boot, and system checked by default... to backup your partitions, also checkmark the box next to 'sdext" ... and to wipe your sdext, from the wipe menu, scroll down to sdext and wipe it. Just be sure you don't chose sdcard
You'll notice your backups with the sdext also backed up will have a slightly different name... old ones started with BDS... which is "B"oot, "D"ata, and "S"ystem... backups with the sdext added in will start with BDES, can you guess what the "E" is?
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Thank u very much for the help
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
Thank u very much for the help
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Quite welcome my man, good luck
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Quite welcome my man, good luck
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Yea bro thank u so much worked like a charm
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[Q] please help, don't want to mess anything up.

when I want to Nandroid on Amon_Ra's recovery, which options should I select in order to make a complete backup like Clockwork did?
Thanks In Advance,
-Will
Depends, if you want absolutely everything backed up and you have the space then check them all.
Really, there's no need to check cache, .android_secure, or sd-ext if you're just dealing with wiping your phone and not wiping your SDCARD.
I usually just check Boot, System, Wimax and Data.
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Depends, if you want absolutely everything backed up and you have the space then check them all.
Really, there's no need to check cache, .android_secure, or sd-ext if you're just dealing with wiping your phone and not wiping your SDCARD.
I usually just check Boot, System, Wimax and Data.
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Yup..i always restore apps via titanium backup...i only made one backup of wimax then copied it over, so it saves more space.
teh roxxorz said:
i only made one backup of wimax then copied it over, so it saves more space.
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Yeah, it is best to have you wimax.img somewhere safe.
I do, have it in my dropbox but I also back it up each time just for fun.
mattykinsx said:
Yeah, it is best to have you wimax.img somewhere safe.
I do, have it in my dropbox but I also back it up each time just for fun.
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Now dropbox is a good idea lol. And if it keeps your boat afloat, sail with it.
After Wimax etc. Are done, nands for me are what's already checked and SD ext. Since I'm using a partitioned SD card for synergy. Also you can wipe cache and dalvik cache before nand for a quicker back up.
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I always backup everything except Cache
back everything up then publish your wimax key to us. lol!

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I have Clockwordmod Recovery installed on my GSII (T989). If I do a full backup, and then flash a custom ROM/Kernel...can I just do a complete full restore if I don't like it (from the backup I made)?
Thanks!
Well there is no cyanogen recovery so that's probably why no one is replying fyi.
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nuggstein said:
I have Cyanogenmod Recovery installed on my GSII (T989). If I do a full backup, and then flash a custom ROM/Kernel...can I just do a complete full restore if I don't like it (from the backup I made)?
Thanks!
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I hope you mean clockworkmod and yes.
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Well there is no cyanogen recovery so that's probably why no one is replying fyi.
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Big typo haha.
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I hope you mean clockworkmod and yes.
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So I don't have to worry about losing anything? Once I restore, it will be like I never changed anything? (Almost like an image backup of a computer)?
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Big typo haha.
So I don't have to worry about losing anything? Once I restore, it will be like I never changed anything? (Almost like an image backup of a computer)?
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Make a backup im cwm recovery and you can flash back to it and all will be as it was.
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I have Clockwordmod Recovery installed on my GSII (T989). If I do a full backup, and then flash a custom ROM/Kernel...can I just do a complete full restore if I don't like it (from the backup I made)?
Thanks!
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Make a backup im cwm recovery and you can flash back to it and all will be as it was.
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No i wouldnt suggest doing that when u make a back up in cwm you making a backup of that rom! If your worried about your data use either
Titanium backup or
MyBackup Pro
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umm...I thought CWM recovery backed up everything...including data (excluding microSD card).
So, if I restore it, it restores the original Kernel and ROM? Is that correct?
If something goes wrong, while flashing new kernels/ROMS, I can boot into recovery and just restore?
I'm already rooted, I just want to be sure before I start messing with my device.
Thaks!
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umm...I thought CWM recovery backed up everything...including data (excluding microSD card).
So, if I restore it, it restores the original Kernel and ROM? Is that correct?
If something goes wrong, while flashing new kernels/ROMS, I can boot into recovery and just restore?
I'm already rooted, I just want to be sure before I start messing with my device.
Thaks!
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you are correct the Nandroid backup built into the CWM recovery will back up everything on your phone as it is. including any ext partition on your external SD card. (will not backup your FAT partition where your normal downloads and pictures go, as this is where the backups are stored) but your ROM, all apps and their data and anything on your EXT partition (if you have one) will be backed up.
i suggest copying the clockworkmod backup folder to your computer before flashing anything else. just in case it messes up your SD card somehow.
doing the full restore will automatically restore ROM apps and data as they were when you backed up. feel free to flash as many roms as you want, just make sure to keep your backup safe. and to wipe all data in between roms as usual.
although titanium backup is amazing. and will backup apps and their data while booted inside your rom. its amazing, check it out.
Cwm backs up everthing including rom, kernel, and data. When you restore your backup it will restore your phone the way it was the moment that you backed it up.
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malaeus said:
you are correct the Nandroid backup built into the CWM recovery will back up everything on your phone as it is. including any ext partition on your external SD card. (will not backup your FAT partition where your normal downloads and pictures go, as this is where the backups are stored) but your ROM, all apps and their data and anything on your EXT partition (if you have one) will be backed up.
i suggest copying the clockworkmod backup folder to your computer before flashing anything else. just in case it messes up your SD card somehow.
doing the full restore will automatically restore ROM apps and data as they were when you backed up. feel free to flash as many roms as you want, just make sure to keep your backup safe. and to wipe all data in between roms as usual.
although titanium backup is amazing. and will backup apps and their data while booted inside your rom. its amazing, check it out.
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I have TB Pro...are you saying it will back all of my apps/data up, and I can just restore it from within my new ROM?
Correct. Just use caution when trying to restore system apps.
Good.Luck!
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Dude don't sorry so much!!! Super Noob!!! JK! Well not really you are never going to want stock again...just carefully flash your desired ROM.. use TB to restore all of your apps and their data. Do a nandroid back up of your current rom then one of your favorite roms after you set it up to you liking.
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