How come nandroid backup misses so much? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change

thenags said:
I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
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what kind of little things.. whenever i do a nandroid restore.. everything that was there before is still there

Clipt said:
what kind of little things.. whenever i do a nandroid restore.. everything that was there before is still there
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+1...are you performing the backup from the recovery screen or using the adb commands? What recovery are you using, CWM or RA? I know CWM was missing things when performing a wipe so maybe the same holds true for performing a NAND backup? I am using RA and I have not run into this problem.

Off the top of my head.. I always have to reset my Handcent message ringtones and Exchange account information.
Maybe I was a bit frustrated when I typed 'SO MUCH'. But it definitely misses some stuff.
I use Clockwork

thenags said:
I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
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Well your impression was wrong I guess?

JavaIV said:
+1...are you performing the backup from the recovery screen or using the adb commands? What recovery are you using, CWM or RA? I know CWM was missing things when performing a wipe so maybe the same holds true for performing a NAND backup? I am using RA and I have not run into this problem.
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Again, are you sure CWM was missing things during wipe, or are you just repeating what you've heard? I assume you're talking about dalvik-cache, and my testing shows that this is NOT true.

Oh, and I always lose my custom dictionary too.

and your backup is up-to-date?

thenags said:
I was under the impression a nandroid backup was like a full clone that you'd do on a computer. But after restoring with a nand backup there's always a ton of little settings I need to change
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It backs up absolutely everything. You must have used an old backup.

SilverZero said:
Again, are you sure CWM was missing things during wipe, or are you just repeating what you've heard? I assume you're talking about dalvik-cache, and my testing shows that this is NOT true.
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Well from my experiments cwm doesn't wipe dalvik. When I did a wipe and flashed fresh 0.5.3 I was stuck in loop
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elegantai said:
and your backup is up-to-date?
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Yep. It's the very last thing I do before flashing a new rom

while were on topic...
so proper nandroid backing up is..
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik
THEN do nandoid backup?
or is it.. do nandroid backup first THEN do all the butt wiping?

no no no, backup first then wipe. Otherwise you are backing up a blank phone pretty much
...For OP, not sure but is it possible the application data like handcent is not stored on the phone but in the cloud? Or maybe on the sd card and it does not link the old settings file? Are you using app2sd?

elegantai said:
no no no, backup first then wipe. Otherwise you are backing up a blank phone pretty much
...For OP, not sure but is it possible the application data like handcent is not stored on the phone but in the cloud? Or maybe on the sd card and it does not link the old settings file? Are you using app2sd?
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Nope. Haven't tried app2sd yet

Well, then the only thing else I can offer is using titanium backup or the like. What rom are you using when you did the backup?

gangsterholla179 said:
Well from my experiments cwm doesn't wipe dalvik. When I did a wipe and flashed fresh 0.5.3 I was stuck in loop
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Did you check to see if the dalvik cache was still there after the wipe? Because it resides within the data folder, so doing a data wipe automatically wipes the dalvik-cache folder anyway.
Unless there is something else related to dalvik that is outside of the /data directory.
Are/were you using a current version of CWM?

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Nandroid not working [solved ]

This just started recently nandroid isn't working for me .
I'm on amonra 2.3 and when I back up my rom then try and re flash it , it stays stuck on the white htc evo screen .
Can someone help me plz
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When you create a nandroid backup, I suggest doing the following, if you aren't:
1. Wipe Cache & Dalvik
2. Create the nandroid using the default settings as well as android.secure
3. Reboot to your homescreen, but know that the initial boot will take some time.
When restoring the backup, I suggest doing the following. NO, it is NOT necessary to wipe before restoring, but I do anyway.
1. Wipe EVERYTHING except the SD card.
2. Restore the backup
3. Reboot to your homescreen.
If you've renamed the FOLDER that the nandroid backups are stored in, you will NOT be able to restore until you revert to the Original Name.
If you've renamed the backups themselves, make sure you DO NOT use special characters in the name or your restore will fail.
I've been using nandroid back up for a while now but I just started having this issue .
It won't even boot tho it stays on the white htc evo screen
I have even tried flashing the rom on top of the back up but it doesn't work .
The only way I can flash a rom is by starting fresh
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What I noticed is that I can restore older back ups but any recent back ups wont restore
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
What I noticed is that I can restore older back ups but any recent back ups wont restore
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Seems like they may be corrupted, or incomplete.
Did you recently partition your sd card for some of the new ROMs? Not backing "sdext" up and not wiping that before restores could be causing your problems
Vinchenzop said:
Did you recently partition your sd card for some of the new ROMs? Not backing "sdext" up and not wiping that before restores could be causing your problems
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Yea actually I did recently partition sd
So how do I back up sd ext ? And how do I wipe ?
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
Yea actually I did recently partition sd
So how do I back up sd ext ? And how do I wipe ?
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When you make your backups, it usually has data, boot, and system checked by default... to backup your partitions, also checkmark the box next to 'sdext" ... and to wipe your sdext, from the wipe menu, scroll down to sdext and wipe it. Just be sure you don't chose sdcard
You'll notice your backups with the sdext also backed up will have a slightly different name... old ones started with BDS... which is "B"oot, "D"ata, and "S"ystem... backups with the sdext added in will start with BDES, can you guess what the "E" is?
Vinchenzop said:
When you make your backups, it usually has data, boot, and system checked by default... to backup your partitions, also checkmark the box next to 'sdext" ... and to wipe your sdext, from the wipe menu, scroll down to sdext and wipe it. Just be sure you don't chose sdcard
You'll notice your backups with the sdext also backed up will have a slightly different name... old ones started with BDS... which is "B"oot, "D"ata, and "S"ystem... backups with the sdext added in will start with BDES, can you guess what the "E" is?
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Thank u very much for the help
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
Thank u very much for the help
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Quite welcome my man, good luck
Vinchenzop said:
Quite welcome my man, good luck
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Yea bro thank u so much worked like a charm
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[Q] please help, don't want to mess anything up.

when I want to Nandroid on Amon_Ra's recovery, which options should I select in order to make a complete backup like Clockwork did?
Thanks In Advance,
-Will
Depends, if you want absolutely everything backed up and you have the space then check them all.
Really, there's no need to check cache, .android_secure, or sd-ext if you're just dealing with wiping your phone and not wiping your SDCARD.
I usually just check Boot, System, Wimax and Data.
mattykinsx said:
Depends, if you want absolutely everything backed up and you have the space then check them all.
Really, there's no need to check cache, .android_secure, or sd-ext if you're just dealing with wiping your phone and not wiping your SDCARD.
I usually just check Boot, System, Wimax and Data.
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Yup..i always restore apps via titanium backup...i only made one backup of wimax then copied it over, so it saves more space.
teh roxxorz said:
i only made one backup of wimax then copied it over, so it saves more space.
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Yeah, it is best to have you wimax.img somewhere safe.
I do, have it in my dropbox but I also back it up each time just for fun.
mattykinsx said:
Yeah, it is best to have you wimax.img somewhere safe.
I do, have it in my dropbox but I also back it up each time just for fun.
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Now dropbox is a good idea lol. And if it keeps your boat afloat, sail with it.
After Wimax etc. Are done, nands for me are what's already checked and SD ext. Since I'm using a partitioned SD card for synergy. Also you can wipe cache and dalvik cache before nand for a quicker back up.
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I always backup everything except Cache
back everything up then publish your wimax key to us. lol!

[Q] How to Nandroid Backup

Running MIUI and want to check out CM7, I've never done a Nandroid backup ever, so what should I backup when it prompts me because I tried but wasn't sure what to select
Boot system data Wimax also backup up sdext ONLY IF YOUR PARTITIONED if your not just those four I listed
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evo4gnoob said:
Boot system data Wimax also backup up sdext ONLY IF YOUR PARTITIONED if your not just those four I listed
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thank you sir!
You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
teh roxxorz said:
You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
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thank you as well
ZombiiBite said:
thank you as well
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All in a days work, good citizen.
teh roxxorz said:
You only NEED boot, system, and data. Android secure is your apps, but I always backup and restore from titanium, so no need if you do that. Backup your wimax and make a separate backup of it as well, and copy it to your pc for safe keeping.
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So is this what I would do still if I was running a sense ROM with dark tremor a2sd? And just wipe the ext when I flash a new ROM ?
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Goobertime said:
So is this what I would do still if I was running a sense ROM with dark tremor a2sd? And just wipe the ext when I flash a new ROM ?
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Correct, do the wipes I listed previously, and the sd ext [if you're partitioned].
No intentions for redundancy, but just adding my 2 pennies. I prefer Amon Ra Recovery and withing the Bootloader screen go down to recovery which is under fastboot, then you should be directed to the Recovery menu, there you should see an option labeled Backup/Restore, within this folder should be an option labeled nandroid backup. Cheers to your successful backup.
Okay, thank you good sir
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Personally, I backup everything except cache. I want the restore, when I need it, to be complete, and it's worked out that way every time.
I also store all my Nandroid backups to the PC, just in case sumthin' happens to the sdcard

Concerns about nandroid backup and restore

Hey guys (or girls) I just had a quick concern about nandroid backups and restores... When I do a backup of the current state of my phone, and I'm running flawlessly on a rom. If I happen to try a different rom and don't like it so I choose to restore to that certain backup. Will there be any problems like force closes or apps acting up all weird? Sorry guys just never actually have done a restore of a nandroid.
I've never had any problems. I always wipe says, cache, and delvik cache before restoring a back up though.
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mikel719 said:
I've never had any problems. I always wipe says, cache, and delvik cache before restoring a back up though.
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Alright. Thanks man. Guess the case is closed now.
Carbajal3009 said:
Alright. Thanks man. Guess the case is closed now.
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just to be safe i always also do titanium backup for all my apps on a separate sd card whenever i test a new rom out as well as a nandroid. sorry if this is a newb tip. i r newb also.
husker apollo said:
just to be safe i always also do titanium backup for all my apps on a separate sd card whenever i test a new rom out as well as a nandroid. sorry if this is a newb tip. i r newb also.
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yea i literally backed up everything via titanium backup just in case and anything dealing with flashing and or using adb i do a nanodroid just in case
I always forget to wipe dalvik and cache but I've never had any problems. The first time I installed Blazer ROM 3.5 though it would always force close when I flashed the ICS theme but not the regular. Somehow it was fixed when I DIDN'T wipe cache/dalvik even though the instructions said to. But I'm noob too so I have no idea

So, how do i restore a rom?

Yeah, I kmow it sounds noob but here is the thing.
You do a nandroid backup, then i restore it, simple as it is.
But should i completly do a clean up be4 doing the restore and does the restore be as good as the last time I used it? Or will it have some issues after first restore?
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fenchai said:
Yeah, I kmow it sounds noob but here is the thing.
You do a nandroid backup, then i restore it, simple as it is.
But should i completly do a clean up be4 doing the restore and does the restore be as good as the last time I used it? Or will it have some issues after first restore?
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Restoring is better and less work than flashing through odin.
No wipe is neccery with restore..I personaly prefer Twrp cause it saves your efs and modem in seperate partitions for easy restore.
yes I know, but what are the steps so I can fully restore it as it was before without any bugs or failures.. only tap on restore?
Yes just tap on restore; it automatically wipes and restores each partition you've backed up.
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in my experience, I always backup the ROM I'm using before flashing any new ROMs
in any ROM backup, I recommend that you checked the boot, system & data (I use TWRP recovery) if you want to revert to it later on
if all three items are checked, you can just restore it & it'll be the same as when you backed it up
as for the wipe, I always wipe (data, cache & dalvik cache) before flashing &/ restore anything, just to be on the safe side

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