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Im coming from the original sgs 2

i sold my european galaxy s II , took 300 from it and just got this yesterday, because it was my only
option, i could have gone with att's version but no unlimited data.
I then realized you get throttled to edge, which in my area is just as good as no data at all.
So right now im not really sure if i should return it for the att..
I immediately noticed a choppy lagness... not in terms of performance because this phone is a beast. In comparison to the exynos, the hercules gets anhilated.
I immediately noticed just from switching screens on twiz.
The international just felt so much faster and responsive. New screens would appear and close in the blink of an eye.
I am still happy about this phone....
...but I was lagging playing dragon fly??????? What the hell is this..
I still like this phone and I have faith in it and will overclock her.....but whats up with this slowddown guys?
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Just as you said, the Exynos is simply the better processor. The Hercules definitely has a certain choppiness at times that isn't present in the AT&T/Sprint/Int. version. Hopefully, overclocking or some additional updates will help out with this though. This is using the same cpu as the Touchpad and that easily overclocks to 1.8-1.9 Ghz. Still very fast as it is though.
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yeah still vey fast i completely agree
i understand they did this to achieve the data speeds but it just doesnt feel like a galaxy s II.
Atts screen is too small for my taste i like 4.37-4.5, I have huge hands.
this is basically a rant, but i do look forward to see where development takes us
still baffled about dragon fly.....its not really a demanding game.
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Well the processor isn't use to its potential. Once we find out how to utilize both processors. It will be a beast. Also the Adreno 220 gpu is able to be overclocked. It caused screen tearing issues for the sensation I think cause of the qhd display. But I think the galaxy 2 can handle it cause of the wvga.

Killbynature said:
Well the processor isn't use to its potential. Once we find out how to utilize both processors. It will be a beast.
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Exactly. Also get rid of TW and use launcher pro, efficient widgets and the phone flies.. Faster than my rooted MT4G and I use even more apps and widgets
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Exactly. Also get rid of TW and use launcher pro, efficient widgets and the phone flies.. Faster than my rooted MT4G and I use even more apps and widgets
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The problem is getting the cores to work normally. The fartest I seen with the sensation is one core is used as garbage and data collecting. While the other fufills the task.

If anything the game itself is not optimized for the SoC, the same thing happened with CityData on the Sensation 4G when it was released. It was very choppy. Drag Racing on my Vibrant was very choppy and that SoC has a very powerful graphics processor. It was fixed in later releases..
The choppiness is also probably do to optimization not being totally up to snuff. It's still snappy in my opinion. You also have to realize that it's loaded with roughly 15 junk apps, who knows what those are doing in the background.

So far I've had zero troubles, i'm very happy with mine. I can understand if you're coming from the international that you would be upset if you were having a different experience.
I don't worry about the throttling too much because I am using wifi when i'm using the most data. My cap is 5 GB anyway, that's a lot of data.
I am still trying to use touchwiz and am still enjoying my experience. I imagine I will try another launcher in the near future.
I come from a Motorola Defy with CM7, that is the experience that I compare to so you can imagine i'm like a pig in mud. Even Swype seems more accurate on this thing.
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Those topic is my exact feeling on this phone. I feel like i paid for a galaxy s 1.5. Still a fast phone, just doesn't quite live up to its name unfortunately
You may also notice that the sound quality isn't up to par either . Bass is almost non existent
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I have an Exhibit 4G and the difference in bass response is very small, like a few dB's on the low end. Semi fixable with Equalizer

i actually prefer the speaker on this phone compared to the international. Louder and clearer
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FWIW, the phone flies with ADW instead of Touchwiz.

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FWIW, the phone flies with ADW instead of Touchwiz.
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When i installed adw ex on this thing i literally yelled wow! Touchwiz really holds back some of the performance and remember guys they had to switch to this processor to get us the 42mbps speeds....and i think it was worth it the sprint or att versions dont hold a candle to this things data speeds (at least in nyc) my friends att version got 300kbps down on speed test! epic got 6mbps and i got 12mbps once this thing gets OC/UV and a rom without touchwiz its gonna be insane
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Man I must have gotten a rare device cause this thing ZOOMS.
I have gone through a Nexus One, Galaxy S, Photon 4G, HTC Sensation, Galaxy S2 Int and this phone and it definitely keeps up with the fastest of the bunch.
I run GoLauncher on my phone and it is beautiful, ADW is a great launcher too.
My data speeds have been decent in San Francisco....16-18Mbps down and 2-3Mbps up. So not blazing really but fastish.
Anywho....I like this device a lot. I don't see it as any better or worse than the Int one except I actually enjoy the form factor of that one more and it runs vanilla. I needed faster data speeds though.
Cheers

efenili said:
Man I must have gotten a rare device cause this thing ZOOMS.
I have gone through a Nexus One, Galaxy S, Photon 4G, HTC Sensation, Galaxy S2 Int and this phone and it definitely keeps up with the fastest of the bunch.
I run GoLauncher on my phone and it is beautiful, ADW is a great launcher too.
My data speeds have been decent in San Francisco....16-18Mbps down and 2-3Mbps up. So not blazing really but fastish.
Anywho....I like this device a lot. I don't see it as any better or worse than the Int one except I actually enjoy the form factor of that one more and it runs vanilla. I needed faster data speeds though.
Cheers
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Those are really excellent speeds, actually. I'm barely breaking 3mbps down in NYC. FML.

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Those are really excellent speeds, actually. I'm barely breaking 3mbps down in NYC. FML.
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Make sure u are using a new sim card
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Make sure u are using a new sim card
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I mean, I got the phone yesterday and am using the sim card that came with it. I wasn't previously a TMO customer. Is there some other kind of sim card that I should get?

[Q] any idea why the Skyrocket scores 800+ higher than Hercules in benchmark？

http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...skyrocket-review/&category=classic&postPage=1
Same Cpu, resolution, screen and ram!!!
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For one a stock Hercules usually runs around 3,200+ in quadrants. Secondly quadrant scores are never consistent. If the scores you've posted above were consistent numbers based on both the Skyrocket and Hercules then I'd say that the Skyrocket's software is more optimized than ours, which I don't believe that it is.
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For one a stock Hercules usually runs around 3,100+ in quadrants. Secondly quadrant scores are never consistent. If the scores you've posted above were consistent numbers based on both the Skyrocket and Hercules then I'd say that the Skyrocket's software is more optimized than ours, which I don't believe that it is.
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When i just bought the phone i tested for like 3-4 times and the results range from 2300-2700...
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When i just bought the phone i tested for like 3-4 times and the results range from 2300-2700...
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I remember mines doing 3,200+ in quadrant on stock non rooted rom. Every user will have a different number. Check YouTube videos and you will see different numbers in Quadrant. Quadrant is always to be taken with a grain of salt. It is fun to see those numbers, but what do those numbers actually mean? It does not translate into what your actually day to day performance will be. I've never played with the Skyrocket but I can bet my last dollar that the performance will be the same as what we have now, unless Samsung optimized the software a little more on that phone vs ours. The Quadrant numbers are very similar to what I've seen on the Hercules.
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Quadrants don't mean anything anyway
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http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...skyrocket-review/&category=classic&postPage=1
Same Cpu, resolution, screen and ram!!!
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Does having a phone with a higher quadrant score keep you warm at night? Does it make you smarter? Does it make you better looking? Will it make you more wealthy? Does it flex and tower and laugh at phones with lower scores? Do you cower and run from your friends with phones who's quadrant scores are higher than your phone's?
People seem way too focused on an irrelevant number that fluctuates quite a bit.
Is your phone smooth? Is it lag free? Can it play the newest and hottest games? How's the battery life?
I pitty (not to mention laugh at) those that feel like their phone is terrible if some number that doesn't really matter in real life performance isn't higher than the phone from their neighbors, the Joneses.

Here you go, happy?
By the way stock numbers were between 3200-3600 for me.
#Havingablast w/ my SGS2

Pull your SD card out and rerun Quadrant, run it 3-4 times in a row.
On my Telus S2x I hit 3800 usually after the 3rd test.
With the SD card in hits 2800~3100
Quadrant is a POS, it's not accurate with recent phones.
Check out Vellamo

It was helpful with diagnosing an issue on an evo last night but the numbers don't mean anything. The guy didn't know how bad his problem was until he ran quadrant and saw how it performed. He removed his script and the performance was better.
It was fun for me to run the side by side with him to see the differences and he did end up calling me dirty names.
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it's also possible the source code from the skyrocket might be more optimized than ours
remember the difference between the Telus version release of the source code vs Tmo version of the source release?
the Telus one was cleaner and optimized than the Tmo one.

Duh, its a sky rocket, what did you expect..
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The question was why was there a difference when they have the same specs. Don't be rude Don't you feel this is a bit personalized and maybe a tad too much?
TheSeanTeam said:
Does having a phone with a higher quadrant score keep you warm at night? Does it make you smarter? Does it make you better looking? Will it make you more wealthy? Does it flex and tower and laugh at phones with lower scores? Do you cower and run from your friends with phones who's quadrant scores are higher than your phone's?
People seem way too focused on an irrelevant number that fluctuates quite a bit.
Is your phone smooth? Is it lag free? Can it play the newest and hottest games? How's the battery life?
I pitty (not to mention laugh at) those that feel like their phone is terrible if some number that doesn't really matter in real life performance isn't higher than the phone from their neighbors, the Joneses.
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[Q]Tmobile Galaxy S II vs. AT&T Skyrocket Benchmarks: Whats up?
So the new Skyrocket from AT&T is basically just like our phones (same processor, screen size, ram, gpu, etc) but it has an LTE radio for AT&T's '4g' service.
So from what I would understand the phones, they should perform on benchmarks the same right? They even have the same android version number (2.3.5), BUT the skyrocket is killing it on benchmarks! Seemingly very superior to our phones, here is the engadget review
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-review/
Anyone have any idea why there would be so much of a difference?

Pathetic
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Did u do your own quadrant?? Lol out of the box I was 500 points higher on the first try than what engadget posted.
Who cares man I love my phone!!!
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So the new Skyrocket from AT&T is basically just like our phones (same processor, screen size, ram, gpu, etc) but it has an LTE radio for AT&T's '4g' service.
So from what I would understand the phones, they should perform on benchmarks the same right? They even have the same android version number (2.3.5), BUT the skyrocket is killing it on benchmarks! Seemingly very superior to our phones, here is the engadget review
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-review/
Anyone have any idea why there would be so much of a difference?
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dude, not for nothing, bone stock i absolutely demolished all those scores listed for all the phones listed, i dunno if they got a bunk device, or what, but i think the phone is/does perform exactly the same.

Yeah i've done my own quadrant and my results are usually higher than what engagdet got but still not as high as the skyrocket.
I love my phone so this isn't a flame starter, but my friends skyrocket seems really fast and buttery smooth, whereas occasionally my phone has some very Slight lag.
I'm just curious if the skyrocket maybe has better optimization or something? Has to be software since the hardware is the same right?
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Engadget is like the least reliable source sometimes the reviews are really biased. They have gotten better though. You would know this if you read the mytouch 4g review you'll think engadget hated anything that came from t-mobile. Quadrants don't mean much anyway.

its obviously just a biased article toward the att version , i was getting 3700 on my stock scores, just ignore and be happy with your phone ,hell OC'ed ive gotten 4700 scores

T-Mobile s3 horrible compared to One X

Why is my one x posting a antutu score of over 7000 and my T-Mobile s3 is barely at 5000?
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Mine gets around 6800-6900. I am running debloated though.
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Why is my one x posting a antutu score of over 7000 and my T-Mobile s3 is barely at 5000?
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not debloated and Im getting 6880 (i747m with Bell)

Yes, your artificial benchmark results definitely mean one phone is "better" than another. It has nothing to do with touchwiz / sd card / battery size / removeability.
TL;DR you bought a phone for benchmarks?
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Let me know when you need to replace the battery or upgrade the memory of your One X. Then we can talk "better."
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Apart from the differences in OS settings, installed apps, etc... there's also a key difference in CPU/GPU/Memory architecture.

I just got a 6857 so I don't see any problems (yes I am rooted and debloated). Benchmarks don't make or a break a phone, and in your case both devices are top-notch.

For sure, I was just surprised to see the difference. Does it matter between AT&T and t mobile? Once I unlock and debloat I'll be happy I'm sure.
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Benchmarks. lulz
Thought these were pointless about a year ago. People still care about these? What are you trying to do with your phone, navigate a spaceship?!
Use both phones irl situations and then post what phone is better..............

The real question is T-Mobile or AT&T. Will AT&T be more restrictive for cracking open lol research is needed!
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Guuuyyyyss my Ferrari only goes 185MPH but my Lamborghini goes 190MPH. I hate my POS Ferrari.

You have a One X on T-mobile and your worried about Benchmarks?
I would be more concerned about slow data speeds from that phone instead..:highfive:

My tmobile just barely gets 5000. Sure I was kinda bummed when I saw the score. But shoot this is the fastest lag free phone I have ever used. Even though I overpaid to get this phone contract free its amazing. It was worth every penny. Seriously don't underestimate its power.
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Stupidity at its best.. If benchmark apps are all you use, oh well yeah, S3 is horrible for you. I am afraid real life scenarios don't depend on benchmarks though.
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Benchmarks don't matter it's about real world speed and reliability I'm not saying that the s3 is better or the one x is better not that's just a stupid way to compare
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Why is my one x posting a antutu score of over 7000 and my T-Mobile s3 is barely at 5000?
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I think you have power saving mode on. Just ran two tests, with power saving mode on I got 4969 and with out power saving mode I hit 6899.
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Man people are mad lol I'm definitely keeping my tmo s3 it's just all around a better phone, the benchmark thing worried me but I realized, whatever. I really shouldn't have posted this lol now on to breaking this bad boy wide open!!
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The title of your post got my attention and I think it got under the skin of some of us Samsung fanboys. No biggie. BTW, it's best to run benchmarks when your phone has been sitting for 10 minutes or so because CPU temperature can have a big affect on your results.

Maybe the rumors about the Tmo having a the gimped 8260a chipset are true.

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The title of your post got my attention and I think it got under the skin of some of us Samsung fanboys. No biggie. BTW, it's best to run benchmarks when your phone has been sitting for 10 minutes or so because CPU temperature can have a big affect on your results.
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This is 80% of it right here guys. I created a similar thread awhile back about low Quadrant scores on my S3. I couldn't barely even break 4000. If I just let the phone sit for 10 minutes without using it and then did a benchmark results were AMAZING. Heat definitely plays a factor. I did a test and set my phone on my A/C vent for 10 minutes and ran AnTuTu and I was at like 7300.
Relax your phone is fine

[Q] Impressing an isheep with performance? Fastest/smoothest rom? What are you runnin

I just got my sgs3 from Tmo and want to make the most of the hardware! Now I have a friend who wants to get an iPhone, and me being the good fandroid that I am want to after him to the light side! What is the smoothest/fastest ROM out there to impress?
Also I am curious to see what you guys are running?
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whildchild rom
casrocks said:
I just got my sgs3 from Tmo and want to make the most of the hardware! Now I have a friend who wants to get an iPhone, and me being the good fandroid that I am want to after him to the light side! What is the smoothest/fastest ROM out there to impress?
Also I am curious to see what you guys are running?
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Whildchild rom its really good fast stable

Show him pop up video play and then hand him his jaw from off the floor.

bone stock, the sgs 3 blows the 4s away in everything. the "advantage"(for less tech-savvy folk, like your typical iphone user) for iphones, is that they're easy to use. they have an easier, simpler interface- which is better for people who are not into running customized ROMs or anything.
if your friend doesn't care about modding or playing games, he would not be utilizing the better hardware and software on the SGS 3. he'd be drawn into the excellent marketing of apple, and stay content with the iphone, no matter how much they charge for minor updates.

Cyanogen mod 10
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... and then hand him his jaw from off the floor.
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That seriously made me lol.
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You can't impress an Isheep. Their heads are so far up their own asses I doubt they can tell you the difference between the i4 and i4s. I'm just going to pretend these people don't exist. I get too worked up over this debate. Especially with the BS court rulings that just happened against samsung.
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You can't impress an Isheep. Their heads are so far up their own asses I doubt they can tell you the difference between the i4 and i4s. I'm just going to pretend these people don't exist. I get too worked up over this debate. Especially with the BS court rulings that just happened against samsung.
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exactly. your average iphone user has no idea what they're missing out on, they just know apples marketing. you'd be wasting time, unless they actually utilize the plethora of features and hardware superiority of android.
i converted 4 of my friends from the iphone(3gs) to android(amaze 4g, sensation, sgs 3, etc) so far, and that was only because they realized how superior even my old htc g2 was.

Freegs3 R6 rom and Wildchlds Xquizit rom

if you want a stock based ics rom go with wildchilds xquizit v37..
if u want a jb based rom.. i am running cm 10 nightly 8 28 2012 and seems stable for now.

Stock ROM.
Just root it and remove all the bloat with Titanium backup. Features to show off:
1) Its big super AMOLED screen. Tell him it has higher resolution too.
2) Floating video thingy.
3) Put stress on how thin your phone is.
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kdskamal said:
Stock ROM.
Just root it and remove all the bloat with Titanium backup. Features to show off:
1) Its big super AMOLED screen. Tell him it has higher resolution too.
2) Floating video thingy.
3) Put stress on how thin your phone is.
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let's not forget it's dual core 1.5ghz, i wonder what it can be oc'ed to when they do it. can iphones be overclocked? not even sure
oh, and 2gb of ram, vs. the 512mb of ram in the 4s. though, you don't need much RAM when you don't have true multi-tasking :laugh:

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I just got my sgs3 from Tmo and want to make the most of the hardware! Now I have a friend who wants to get an iPhone, and me being the good fandroid that I am want to after him to the light side! What is the smoothest/fastest ROM out there to impress?
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I'm using Wrecked V2 its really stable and fast.

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I'm using Wrecked V2 its really stable and fast.
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I think you mean wicked.

The most effective demonstration I have ever done for why I prefer android to iphone was probably also the simplest. I was in a location with no cell phone service, but that did have WiFi. Simple demonstration, my phone rang theirs didn't. My phone was able to make phone calls, theirs couldn't. That forced 5 iphone users to use my galaxy S3 to make phone calls, and they all decided to play with the phone after their calls were through. That led to many questions of "what else can android do that iphone can't" and statements of "I just assumed iphone was better, but I have never really looked at android phones". They are all looking now.

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let's not forget it's dual core 1.5ghz, i wonder what it can be oc'ed to when they do it. can iphones be overclocked? not even sure
oh, and 2gb of ram, vs. the 512mb of ram in the 4s. though, you don't need much RAM when you don't have true multi-tasking :laugh:
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max i had mine oc to was 1.8... i thinkkkk i saw someone at 2.1
and i do not think you can oc i phones..

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Note 2

Hi Guys. This is my first post in the forum. I've got a samsung galaxy note 2 but when ever I run a benchmark test I'm getting low scores. For some reason the HTC One X is beating my note 2.
Does this mean I could have a defective device?
Why is there a low score?
If someone could help me out that would be great, Or you can email me on my email address which is : [email protected], I don't really know how the forum works.
Thanks

What score are you getting? And what benchmark?
Is power saving enabled?
To be honest, benchmarks are not really true to life representations of speed. If the phone feeks smooth and runs awesome, the benchmark doesnt matter.
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kylec said:
What score are you getting? And what benchmark?
Is power saving enabled?
To be honest, benchmarks are not really true to life representations of speed. If the phone feeks smooth and runs awesome, the benchmark doesnt matter.
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Agreed 100%
Mine improved by nearly 1000 yesterday after running back to back tests. No reasonable logic behind it why it did.

With the new version of Antutu my scores went up from 13,500 to 18.500 points, talking about credibility

If you are running Quadrant, well uninstall it. If you are running Linpack, run it 2 or 3 times more.
These benchmarks results are, in one word, nonsense.

kylec said:
What score are you getting? And what benchmark?
Is power saving enabled?
To be honest, benchmarks are not really true to life representations of speed. If the phone feeks smooth and runs awesome, the benchmark doesnt matter.
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Hi, I previously owned a IPhone 4, I'm new to Android, this is my first Android phone. My phone is super fast, shall I just try and ignore the benchmarks.
is there another way to check the performance of the phone, other then rooting. As I want to research on to rooting a phone. Is there another method which I can use to check if there is anything wrong with my phone's performance?
Thanks

kylec said:
What score are you getting? And what benchmark?
Is power saving enabled?
To be honest, benchmarks are not really true to life representations of speed. If the phone feeks smooth and runs awesome, the benchmark doesnt matter.
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Hi, I just done the test and iI turned off the power saving option and now it's beating the HTC ONE X. my score is 5897. Is that reasonable? Thanks

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Hi, I just done the test and iI turned off the power saving option and now it's beating the HTC ONE X. my score is 5897. Is that reasonable? Thanks
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Haha sounds better
I noticed power saving mode makes a minimal imoact on battery life and makes the phone noticably slower haha.
Also welcome to Android
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Thank you so much everyone for your help