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[Q] any idea why the Skyrocket scores 800+ higher than Hercules in benchmark？

http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...skyrocket-review/&category=classic&postPage=1
Same Cpu, resolution, screen and ram!!!
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For one a stock Hercules usually runs around 3,200+ in quadrants. Secondly quadrant scores are never consistent. If the scores you've posted above were consistent numbers based on both the Skyrocket and Hercules then I'd say that the Skyrocket's software is more optimized than ours, which I don't believe that it is.
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OuncE718 said:
For one a stock Hercules usually runs around 3,100+ in quadrants. Secondly quadrant scores are never consistent. If the scores you've posted above were consistent numbers based on both the Skyrocket and Hercules then I'd say that the Skyrocket's software is more optimized than ours, which I don't believe that it is.
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When i just bought the phone i tested for like 3-4 times and the results range from 2300-2700...
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When i just bought the phone i tested for like 3-4 times and the results range from 2300-2700...
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I remember mines doing 3,200+ in quadrant on stock non rooted rom. Every user will have a different number. Check YouTube videos and you will see different numbers in Quadrant. Quadrant is always to be taken with a grain of salt. It is fun to see those numbers, but what do those numbers actually mean? It does not translate into what your actually day to day performance will be. I've never played with the Skyrocket but I can bet my last dollar that the performance will be the same as what we have now, unless Samsung optimized the software a little more on that phone vs ours. The Quadrant numbers are very similar to what I've seen on the Hercules.
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Quadrants don't mean anything anyway
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jasonqw1 said:
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...skyrocket-review/&category=classic&postPage=1
Same Cpu, resolution, screen and ram!!!
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Does having a phone with a higher quadrant score keep you warm at night? Does it make you smarter? Does it make you better looking? Will it make you more wealthy? Does it flex and tower and laugh at phones with lower scores? Do you cower and run from your friends with phones who's quadrant scores are higher than your phone's?
People seem way too focused on an irrelevant number that fluctuates quite a bit.
Is your phone smooth? Is it lag free? Can it play the newest and hottest games? How's the battery life?
I pitty (not to mention laugh at) those that feel like their phone is terrible if some number that doesn't really matter in real life performance isn't higher than the phone from their neighbors, the Joneses.

Here you go, happy?
By the way stock numbers were between 3200-3600 for me.
#Havingablast w/ my SGS2

Pull your SD card out and rerun Quadrant, run it 3-4 times in a row.
On my Telus S2x I hit 3800 usually after the 3rd test.
With the SD card in hits 2800~3100
Quadrant is a POS, it's not accurate with recent phones.
Check out Vellamo

It was helpful with diagnosing an issue on an evo last night but the numbers don't mean anything. The guy didn't know how bad his problem was until he ran quadrant and saw how it performed. He removed his script and the performance was better.
It was fun for me to run the side by side with him to see the differences and he did end up calling me dirty names.
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it's also possible the source code from the skyrocket might be more optimized than ours
remember the difference between the Telus version release of the source code vs Tmo version of the source release?
the Telus one was cleaner and optimized than the Tmo one.

Duh, its a sky rocket, what did you expect..
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The question was why was there a difference when they have the same specs. Don't be rude Don't you feel this is a bit personalized and maybe a tad too much?
TheSeanTeam said:
Does having a phone with a higher quadrant score keep you warm at night? Does it make you smarter? Does it make you better looking? Will it make you more wealthy? Does it flex and tower and laugh at phones with lower scores? Do you cower and run from your friends with phones who's quadrant scores are higher than your phone's?
People seem way too focused on an irrelevant number that fluctuates quite a bit.
Is your phone smooth? Is it lag free? Can it play the newest and hottest games? How's the battery life?
I pitty (not to mention laugh at) those that feel like their phone is terrible if some number that doesn't really matter in real life performance isn't higher than the phone from their neighbors, the Joneses.
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[Q]Tmobile Galaxy S II vs. AT&T Skyrocket Benchmarks: Whats up?
So the new Skyrocket from AT&T is basically just like our phones (same processor, screen size, ram, gpu, etc) but it has an LTE radio for AT&T's '4g' service.
So from what I would understand the phones, they should perform on benchmarks the same right? They even have the same android version number (2.3.5), BUT the skyrocket is killing it on benchmarks! Seemingly very superior to our phones, here is the engadget review
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-review/
Anyone have any idea why there would be so much of a difference?

Pathetic
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Did u do your own quadrant?? Lol out of the box I was 500 points higher on the first try than what engadget posted.
Who cares man I love my phone!!!
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Darmokk said:
So the new Skyrocket from AT&T is basically just like our phones (same processor, screen size, ram, gpu, etc) but it has an LTE radio for AT&T's '4g' service.
So from what I would understand the phones, they should perform on benchmarks the same right? They even have the same android version number (2.3.5), BUT the skyrocket is killing it on benchmarks! Seemingly very superior to our phones, here is the engadget review
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-review/
Anyone have any idea why there would be so much of a difference?
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dude, not for nothing, bone stock i absolutely demolished all those scores listed for all the phones listed, i dunno if they got a bunk device, or what, but i think the phone is/does perform exactly the same.

Yeah i've done my own quadrant and my results are usually higher than what engagdet got but still not as high as the skyrocket.
I love my phone so this isn't a flame starter, but my friends skyrocket seems really fast and buttery smooth, whereas occasionally my phone has some very Slight lag.
I'm just curious if the skyrocket maybe has better optimization or something? Has to be software since the hardware is the same right?
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Engadget is like the least reliable source sometimes the reviews are really biased. They have gotten better though. You would know this if you read the mytouch 4g review you'll think engadget hated anything that came from t-mobile. Quadrants don't mean much anyway.

its obviously just a biased article toward the att version , i was getting 3700 on my stock scores, just ignore and be happy with your phone ,hell OC'ed ive gotten 4700 scores

T-Mobile s3 horrible compared to One X

Why is my one x posting a antutu score of over 7000 and my T-Mobile s3 is barely at 5000?
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Mine gets around 6800-6900. I am running debloated though.
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Screaming Ball Sweat said:
Why is my one x posting a antutu score of over 7000 and my T-Mobile s3 is barely at 5000?
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not debloated and Im getting 6880 (i747m with Bell)

Yes, your artificial benchmark results definitely mean one phone is "better" than another. It has nothing to do with touchwiz / sd card / battery size / removeability.
TL;DR you bought a phone for benchmarks?
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Let me know when you need to replace the battery or upgrade the memory of your One X. Then we can talk "better."
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Apart from the differences in OS settings, installed apps, etc... there's also a key difference in CPU/GPU/Memory architecture.

I just got a 6857 so I don't see any problems (yes I am rooted and debloated). Benchmarks don't make or a break a phone, and in your case both devices are top-notch.

For sure, I was just surprised to see the difference. Does it matter between AT&T and t mobile? Once I unlock and debloat I'll be happy I'm sure.
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Benchmarks. lulz
Thought these were pointless about a year ago. People still care about these? What are you trying to do with your phone, navigate a spaceship?!
Use both phones irl situations and then post what phone is better..............

The real question is T-Mobile or AT&T. Will AT&T be more restrictive for cracking open lol research is needed!
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Guuuyyyyss my Ferrari only goes 185MPH but my Lamborghini goes 190MPH. I hate my POS Ferrari.

You have a One X on T-mobile and your worried about Benchmarks?
I would be more concerned about slow data speeds from that phone instead..:highfive:

My tmobile just barely gets 5000. Sure I was kinda bummed when I saw the score. But shoot this is the fastest lag free phone I have ever used. Even though I overpaid to get this phone contract free its amazing. It was worth every penny. Seriously don't underestimate its power.
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Stupidity at its best.. If benchmark apps are all you use, oh well yeah, S3 is horrible for you. I am afraid real life scenarios don't depend on benchmarks though.
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Benchmarks don't matter it's about real world speed and reliability I'm not saying that the s3 is better or the one x is better not that's just a stupid way to compare
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Why is my one x posting a antutu score of over 7000 and my T-Mobile s3 is barely at 5000?
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I think you have power saving mode on. Just ran two tests, with power saving mode on I got 4969 and with out power saving mode I hit 6899.
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Man people are mad lol I'm definitely keeping my tmo s3 it's just all around a better phone, the benchmark thing worried me but I realized, whatever. I really shouldn't have posted this lol now on to breaking this bad boy wide open!!
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The title of your post got my attention and I think it got under the skin of some of us Samsung fanboys. No biggie. BTW, it's best to run benchmarks when your phone has been sitting for 10 minutes or so because CPU temperature can have a big affect on your results.

Maybe the rumors about the Tmo having a the gimped 8260a chipset are true.

DataHawg said:
The title of your post got my attention and I think it got under the skin of some of us Samsung fanboys. No biggie. BTW, it's best to run benchmarks when your phone has been sitting for 10 minutes or so because CPU temperature can have a big affect on your results.
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This is 80% of it right here guys. I created a similar thread awhile back about low Quadrant scores on my S3. I couldn't barely even break 4000. If I just let the phone sit for 10 minutes without using it and then did a benchmark results were AMAZING. Heat definitely plays a factor. I did a test and set my phone on my A/C vent for 10 minutes and ran AnTuTu and I was at like 7300.
Relax your phone is fine

Quadrant score

I only get 3300ish same as wife's. I see a lot of people around 5000ish. I close all apps and clear ram. I am on Rogers. Just curious what score others get on Canadian phones
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are you running stock rom/kernel? I just got a tad under 5000 without closing apps or overclocking so what your running will make a big difference.
BTW gotta say hi to a fellow Brantfordian

As stated above, you could overclock your phone.

ON stock tw I normally hover around 5000'ish. 3300 is wayyyy low. Something def going on not right

RegBuckley said:
I only get 3300ish same as wife's. I see a lot of people around 5000ish. I close all apps and clear ram. I am on Rogers. Just curious what score others get on Canadian phones
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Stock Rogers 4.0.4, CPU OnDemand 384-1512mhz, /settings/developer options/Force GPU Rendering (unchecked), did not clear ram either.
Quadrant Standard = 4990
Quadrant Pro = 4350
Not that the numbers mean much to me, but these are the numbers you can expect. Perhaps your CPU governor/scaling is set low or deifferent than mine....or also, do you have POWER SAVE enabled?

Yes stock. I rooted and tried various rooms same score. I'm not bothered by the score just checking if others get dame score. I do have power saving on so will try tonight without it. Thanks for all the input guys. I'm trying to get a good base for comparison to jb whenever Rogers gives it to us
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Power saving might be throttling the CPU so that its not running its fastest to save power. Definitely try without power saving and let us know.
I'm on CM10 with the ktoonsez kernel not overclocked and I average about 5000, give or take maybe 500. I really can't remember what I got on stock, its been so long

You guys nailed it. I went into power saving screen and turned off the cpu part and got 4955
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You guys nailed it. I went into power saving screen and turned off the cpu part and got 4955
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Great to hear that RegBuckly.
You should FEEL a noticeable difference with certain apps, games or launcher now that you have full speed CPU scaling.
(don't for get to press the thank you button)

I'm getting 3866 in Quadrant (Normal: 5325) and 9586 in AnTuTu (Normal: 16301). Something's wrong, those are almost half what they should be.
I'm running ParanoidKANGDroid and set the CPU to "Performance" in case it was doing some powersaving stuff... is there another powersaving setting I'm missing? I turned off GPS and Sync. I even put it in the damned freezer. I've run both benchmarks multiple times after reboots and all of that and it's pretty consistent with those scores.
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N7100 Quadrant Scores vs. SGH-T889 Scores, Huh?

Played with a Friend's International Note 2 recently and was shocked to see the Quadrant Benchmark scores to be above 7081. No root, no custom ROM, Pure Stock N7100. I ran the tests on his phone several times and the average was between 6900 and 7100.
Our T889's can only go up to 6400 and on average, 5900 - 6000.
I know these are just numbers and don't have any significant impact on the phone's performance but,
What gives?

If I may speculate, our phones do have extra crap from T-Mobile that's consuming RAM and clock cycles constantly while the international Note 2 doesn't. That's the best theory is could think of. I ran Quadrant earlier and got ~4200 something on my Note 2 while getting ~5700 something on my T-Mobile SGS3.
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FWIW, I am running Jedi Master 8 ROM with SaberKernel 8 on a T-Mo Note 2, and I just got 7008 on Quadrant. I don't know if that's due to crapware being left out of the ROM, or the non-stock kernel, or something else, but at least it demonstrates it's not a hardware limitation.

If you are getting in the range of 4000, that's because you have power-saving mode enabled. Disable that! Lol. :laugh:
I honestly don't know what T-Mobile services are running in the background, can you please shed some more light on this.
All I see is T-Mobile's My Account always running in the background.
I always have ~470mb of RAM used of 1.75gb when there is nothing active.
Is the kernel that bad in the Carrier Note 2's?
I don't want to root my phone. :crying:

tmobile roms always score lower than the n7105 roms no matter what i did a test

What is our stock cpu speeds?
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1.6Ghz, same as the N7100.
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What is our stock cpu speeds?
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Jedi x9 off just 1ghz....
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I wish I could decide it they really matter. Some say the scores matter and some say they dont.

arjun90 said:
If you are getting in the range of 4000, that's because you have power-saving mode enabled. Disable that! Lol. :laugh:
I honestly don't know what T-Mobile services are running in the background, can you please shed some more light on this.
All I see is T-Mobile's My Account always running in the background.
I always have ~470mb of RAM used of 1.75gb when there is nothing active.
Is the kernel that bad in the Carrier Note 2's?
I don't want to root my phone. :crying:
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That was the problem! I guess checking the power-saving settings was an oversight and one that gimped my Note 2. I noticed Quadrant reported my CPU clock speed at 1.1 GHz and I couldn't figure out why until I checked the power-saving settings. Problem solved! :good:
Now I'm getting about ~5800 from quadrant

I have only flashed 3 roms for the last 6 months just became a member. The JDEVIL Roms with no kernel on my phone score around 8500 . Im impressed. I like quads . They may not be 100 percent on real life feel. But you csn kind of use them as a gauge. That OP is a nice guy as well and I like that too

I need to root my phone, lol.

My experience is this...
On stock, I never came across a game that this phone made unplayable by way of graphics, sound or any other phathomable benchmark
On Custom Roms based on my own and others' test all games are just as good, play-wise, but with better battery life and overall phone longevity
Dont get me wrong, some games are just better played with a controller.... if thats a knock on GNII then its also a knock on every other phone made
As far as Xperia, it stock, vs GNII stock, may be better but I know the capability is there with the GNII (emulators will eventually pick up) and if im not mistaken there are already some options available that can bring the GNII very comparable to the Xperia, while also being an overall better PHONE
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I need to root my phone, lol.
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Lol... yes, battery/productivity/awesomeness is all improved (and not only are there roms that stock users lose absolutely anything with, but as the OP just metioned, you can gain so much more) ...thanxs to so many devs that I could spend all night referencing
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I have got over 9000+ on my ROM which is just a tweaked, debloated stock base.

KillaHurtz said:
I have got over 9000+ on my ROM which is just a tweaked, debloated stock base.
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OC?
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I just ran it on my stock T-Mobile Note 2 and I got a score of 5671. It's a great score imho, considering I'm all stock and going to stay that way. I just find it crazy how much T-mobile's boat ware lowers our benchmark scores. I find it doesn't effect real time performance in any way. Just that it does mess with benchmark scores. Not really a issue if you ask me.
I love my N2
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Onemoa said:
I just ran it on my stock T-Mobile Note 2 and I got a score of 5671. It's a great score imho, considering I'm all stock and going to stay that way. I just find it crazy how much T-mobile's boat ware lowers our benchmark scores. I find it doesn't effect real time performance in any way. Just that it does mess with benchmark scores. Not really a issue if you ask me.
I love my N2
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What would I lose network wise using an International Note 2 on T-Mo's network?

Does force hw acceleration do you more good or bad?

How's battery consumption compared to not forcing it?
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How's battery consumption compared to not forcing it?
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Usually forcing the use of GPU does cause a difference in battery life, but the difference is unnoticeable. Maybe half a millisecond less of battery life.
Edit: My info may be wrong. I just read this in ICS days in a similar thread.

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Usually forcing the use of GPU does cause a difference in battery life, but the difference is unnoticeable. Maybe half a millisecond less of battery life.
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It should increase battery life since hardware acceleration usually means less stuff for the CPU to process which equals power savings.

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How's battery consumption compared to not forcing it?
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I enable it on every ROM i use after ramping up GPU to 384 without really thinking about it. Always has been solid for me. And yeah, im gonna say that it doesnt do a 'whole' lot for battery. But hey, another 5% on a charge? I'll take it.

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I enable it on every ROM i use after ramping up GPU to 384 without really thinking about it. Always has been solid for me. And yeah, im gonna say that it doesnt do a 'whole' lot for battery. But hey, another 5% on a charge? I'll take it.
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You're becoming my favorite here acvice haha.
Thanks for your answers.
Here's one more:
Does over clocking gpu makes your android experience smoother by a lot?
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Not unless you use lots of themes that are heavy on visual effects
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