I was running LK8 stock rooted and performed the LL4 update via Kies. I had originally tried to do it OTA and in the process wiped the phone to get rid of the modified status only to be put in queue for the OTA. Before formatting the phone I had performed a titanium app and data backup as well as a Nandroid backup.
This leads me to the question. Since the baseband has changed, if I restore the Nandroid back up would it revert back to LK8? It's my understanding that a Nandroid backup is a compete backup of everything that was on the phone other than the external SD card. It would be nice if I could restore it (it took forever to get the mods, launcher and phone settings the way I liked them), but one would think that after a firmware update the Nandroid backup would be useless.
I'm just trying to find the easiest way to restore to my previous state. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Edit: Titanium backup restored all settings!
chodie said:
I was running LK8 stock rooted and performed the LL4 update via Kies. I had originally tried to do it OTA and in the process wiped the phone to get rid of the modified status only to be put in queue for the OTA. Before formatting the phone I had performed a titanium app and data backup as well as a Nandroid backup.
This leads me to the question. Since the baseband has changed, if I restore the Nandroid back up would it revert back to LK8? It's my understanding that a Nandroid backup is a compete backup of everything that was on the phone other than the external SD card. It would be nice if I could restore it (it took forever to get the mods, launcher and phone settings the way I liked them), but one would think that after a firmware update the Nandroid backup would be useless.
I'm just trying to find the easiest way to restore to my previous state. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Edit: Titanium backup restored all settings!
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If you have TWRP recovery, then it won't change your radio unless you had that checked off when doing nandroid backup. If you did have it checked, it will put it back to LK8.
zRalphz said:
If you have TWRP recovery, then it won't change your radio unless you had that checked off when doing nandroid backup. If you did have it checked, it will put it back to LK8.
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I have been using CWM and doing the Nandroid backups via the toolkit and haven't noticed any option that talked about changing the radio. Also after restoring the Titanium backup everything seems to be in order other than Gmail not sync'ing.
Thank you for your reply.
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Okay, so I finally got the Fresh ROM installed on my Evo. Since I had done a data wipe, etc, the phone is empty. I assumed that restoring the phone with my nandroid backup would just put the data back. However, it looks like it returned the phone to the old ROM too. What is the proper way to put the data back on the phone after a wipe and ROM install? I also have a Titanium Backup if that is the way to go...
Yes, titanium backup is the way to go. You can do a batch backup with data and restore once you flash a ROM. A nandroid just backs up your current Rom in the case you need to revert back.
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Thanks for the quick reply! I'm wiping the phone again now and installing Fresh ROM 0.3 and will use the Titanium Backup this time!
Hey i just messed up my wifi connection trying to enable ad-hoc on my desire. so i was thinking of flashing it with DJ Droid. so i wanted to know if i do so i have a nandroid backup with me will it restore all the applications and games after the flash and restore?
ronak_1078 said:
Hey i just messed up my wifi connection trying to enable ad-hoc on my desire. so i was thinking of flashing it with DJ Droid. so i wanted to know if i do so i have a nandroid backup with me will it restore all the applications and games after the flash and restore?
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Simple answer is NO.
The nandroid backup can only be done after you have rooted. So if you are not yet rooted you can't use it. Also, nandroid is not an app backup system. It will restore your phone to the state it was in directly before you did the backup. This means it will replace your rom, aswell as all other settings.
The only time to use nandroid is before flashing a new rom as a safeguard against the new rom not working or you not liking it.
If you want to backup your games and apps. I'd use titanium backup (requires root) or my backup pro.
what about clockswork backup one? does it backup the applications? and yeah its rooted
Nandroid is nandroid. It will do a complete backup- rom, apps, settings etc. If you use it, it will restore your phone to the old rom.
Think of it as windows system restore. It restores the phone to the state it was in directly before you did the backup. So everything you did after the backup will be undone.
clockswork=nandroid?
Clockworkmod recovery or any other custom recovery you choose has nandroid and it is all the same.
Maybe 3rd time lucky here...... Nandroid in whatever form is not an app. backup system. It is a total phone backup.
ok got it... lock the thread i am done
So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
techdude54 said:
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
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In what situation would i use titanium back up with a rooted evo?
Titanium backs up your app and data from your phone. I am rooted and I use it when I need it, when I want to re install apps when I switch roms.
Using my HTC Evo phone which I'm using Xda app to post
evo4gfan said:
So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
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Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
evo4gfan said:
okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
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Yes
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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I use Titanium Backup for backing up data and restoring it on a new ROM a lot. Before I flash a new ROM I always do a complete Titanium Backup and a nandroid backup. If the flash fails I restore from my nandroid backup and if the flash works I load my apps back with Titanium Backup (that way all my saved data on things like games is there and I don't have to start over).
I will caution against doing a restore of everything on a new ROM though (mostly a problem if you're going from something like a stock Evo based ROM to a AOSP ROM). I've had some issues when I restored a few system files (accounts database for example). If you stick with installable applications you shouldn't run into any trouble though (also I've had no problems restoring my call log and text message database).
When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
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When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
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I didn't know that, thanks for the tip.
Ok so i got my brand new replacement evo yesterday and of course the first thing I did was root it and did a nandroid backup! And then restored my previous rom I had backed up well I needed to back up my sprint vm through titanium on the sense rom and so today I went in to restore it after wiping data/cache/davlik and after restoring the sense rom will not go past the boot screen! Is there something I can do to get this back and going past the boot screen? HELP!
It's not safe to restore nandroid backup from a previous phone, at least you made a backup first, restore it, then DELETE all the nandroid from your previous phone. Start over, but keep the titanium backups, they safe
NewZJ said:
It's not safe to restore nandroid backup from a previous phone, at least you made a backup first, restore it, then DELETE all the backups from your previous phone. Start over, but keep the titanium backups, they safe
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agreed agreed agreeeeed. restore the backup u made with the new phone, then start over.
Ok now im confused...because I think one of you misunderstood me. Ok I now get I shouldnt restore a nandroid backup from a previous phone. But ok so if I delete all my backups (except for the sprint sense rom) will that rom reboot then? So i will be able to redo the process?
yes, if you have a backup of the stock rom from your NEW phone, you can restore that one, all other backups you had saved from your previous phone aren't going to work. So you can delete them, your titanium backups of your apps will still work, just your rom backups wont, so yes, u will be able to restore the stock rom backup that you made on the new phone, hope that made sense... lol
If I understand right, you already restored the backup from your previous phone. This could cause issues with the system not restoring the previous backup. Go back and wipe data, cache and dalvik then try restoring the backup from your current phone.
If you still can't restore, try flashing the stock rooted rom.
Once you get it working, I'd check to see if 4G works. If you don't live in a 4G coverage area, run the RSA key checker app and make sure you didn't bork your wimax.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
Hey I'm just trying to figure out the difference between using Titanium Back up and just making a Nandroid back up... What's the difference?
-Thanks
titanium backup is app to backup your apps (system+ user) and your data but not ROM i.e you cannot make backup of rom with that
whereas nandroid backup does all what titanium do with backup of rom too.
so you can restore titanium backup in any rom(OF YOUR PHONE) and get your data back but if you restore nandroid it will restore whole system including ROM
creative_md said:
titanium backup is app to backup your apps (system+ user) and your data but not ROM i.e you cannot make backup of rom with that
whereas nandroid backup does all what titanium do with backup of rom too.
so you can restore titanium backup in any rom(OF YOUR PHONE) and get your data back but if you restore nandroid it will restore whole system including ROM
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I'm currently running 2.3.3 stock rom, would it be better to use titanium or make a nandroid back up via CWM?
Xperia Player said:
I'm currently running 2.3.3 stock rom, would it be better to use titanium or make a nandroid back up via CWM?
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I do both. A CWM backup is a near-full restore in case something screws your phone over. Titanium Backup is there to help with switching between roms, or backing up apps for safe keeping
Xperia Player said:
I'm currently running 2.3.3 stock rom, would it be better to use titanium or make a nandroid back up via CWM?
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Nandroid backup is must as jacklebott said if you mess up with roms and got something wrong no need to flash ftf files and start over again just restore nandroid through cwm and your phone will be like it was before
in case of titanium backup its your choice as if you changed your rom and want apps of your previous rom just restore it
i recommend both as you can save them in your pc too( if your prob. is with sd card space) and when needed copy them to sd card with card reader