Hey I'm just trying to figure out the difference between using Titanium Back up and just making a Nandroid back up... What's the difference?
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titanium backup is app to backup your apps (system+ user) and your data but not ROM i.e you cannot make backup of rom with that
whereas nandroid backup does all what titanium do with backup of rom too.
so you can restore titanium backup in any rom(OF YOUR PHONE) and get your data back but if you restore nandroid it will restore whole system including ROM
creative_md said:
titanium backup is app to backup your apps (system+ user) and your data but not ROM i.e you cannot make backup of rom with that
whereas nandroid backup does all what titanium do with backup of rom too.
so you can restore titanium backup in any rom(OF YOUR PHONE) and get your data back but if you restore nandroid it will restore whole system including ROM
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I'm currently running 2.3.3 stock rom, would it be better to use titanium or make a nandroid back up via CWM?
Xperia Player said:
I'm currently running 2.3.3 stock rom, would it be better to use titanium or make a nandroid back up via CWM?
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I do both. A CWM backup is a near-full restore in case something screws your phone over. Titanium Backup is there to help with switching between roms, or backing up apps for safe keeping
Xperia Player said:
I'm currently running 2.3.3 stock rom, would it be better to use titanium or make a nandroid back up via CWM?
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Nandroid backup is must as jacklebott said if you mess up with roms and got something wrong no need to flash ftf files and start over again just restore nandroid through cwm and your phone will be like it was before
in case of titanium backup its your choice as if you changed your rom and want apps of your previous rom just restore it
i recommend both as you can save them in your pc too( if your prob. is with sd card space) and when needed copy them to sd card with card reader
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Hey i just messed up my wifi connection trying to enable ad-hoc on my desire. so i was thinking of flashing it with DJ Droid. so i wanted to know if i do so i have a nandroid backup with me will it restore all the applications and games after the flash and restore?
ronak_1078 said:
Hey i just messed up my wifi connection trying to enable ad-hoc on my desire. so i was thinking of flashing it with DJ Droid. so i wanted to know if i do so i have a nandroid backup with me will it restore all the applications and games after the flash and restore?
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Simple answer is NO.
The nandroid backup can only be done after you have rooted. So if you are not yet rooted you can't use it. Also, nandroid is not an app backup system. It will restore your phone to the state it was in directly before you did the backup. This means it will replace your rom, aswell as all other settings.
The only time to use nandroid is before flashing a new rom as a safeguard against the new rom not working or you not liking it.
If you want to backup your games and apps. I'd use titanium backup (requires root) or my backup pro.
what about clockswork backup one? does it backup the applications? and yeah its rooted
Nandroid is nandroid. It will do a complete backup- rom, apps, settings etc. If you use it, it will restore your phone to the old rom.
Think of it as windows system restore. It restores the phone to the state it was in directly before you did the backup. So everything you did after the backup will be undone.
clockswork=nandroid?
Clockworkmod recovery or any other custom recovery you choose has nandroid and it is all the same.
Maybe 3rd time lucky here...... Nandroid in whatever form is not an app. backup system. It is a total phone backup.
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So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
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techdude54 said:
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
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In what situation would i use titanium back up with a rooted evo?
Titanium backs up your app and data from your phone. I am rooted and I use it when I need it, when I want to re install apps when I switch roms.
Using my HTC Evo phone which I'm using Xda app to post
evo4gfan said:
So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
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Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
evo4gfan said:
okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
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Yes
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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I use Titanium Backup for backing up data and restoring it on a new ROM a lot. Before I flash a new ROM I always do a complete Titanium Backup and a nandroid backup. If the flash fails I restore from my nandroid backup and if the flash works I load my apps back with Titanium Backup (that way all my saved data on things like games is there and I don't have to start over).
I will caution against doing a restore of everything on a new ROM though (mostly a problem if you're going from something like a stock Evo based ROM to a AOSP ROM). I've had some issues when I restored a few system files (accounts database for example). If you stick with installable applications you shouldn't run into any trouble though (also I've had no problems restoring my call log and text message database).
When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
Tuffgong4 said:
When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
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I didn't know that, thanks for the tip.
when you backup a rom does it backup all the information and apps that were already on the phone?
If you mean a Nandroid backup, then yes. Restoring a backup will return the phone to exactly how it was when you made the backup, including apps, data, settings, etc.
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when you backup a rom does it backup all the information and apps that were already on the phone?
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Making a nandroid backup (like the one created in ROM manager) creates a perfect copy of the entire state of the phone exactly how it is when you make the backup. Restoring the backup puts your phone right back to where it was.
My situation: Clockwork recovery + stock ROM + root + franco kernel.
What shall I backup to be as much as flexible and be able to return to my original situation (exactly what was before installing custom ROMs).
Is the list correct?
- Backup the whole system with Clockwork recovery backup tool.
- Backup everything (all APPS and settings) with Titanium Backup PRO.
- (optional) Backup SMS messages with "SMS Backup & Restore".
- Backup SD card content to PC (just in case).
Would you add anything? What additional backups should I make to be more flexible and safe?
Titanium backup would let me restore my apps and settings to the new ROM. Right?
Clockwork backup tool would let me restore to the original state? Right? Will Clockwork restore will restore the whole content of the SD card (my folders, camera pictures)?
Nandroid its your option, the cwm backup tool will leave your phone exactly the same it is now thats whats called nandroid
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Thanks! I will do a Nandroid backup of the whole system to be able to go back to my Stock ROM and Apps.
But what I need additionally to be able to migrate between ROMs fast?
Is Titanium backup the only tool needed?
Yup,
Titanium Backup will backup everything, including your SMSes etc.
No need for other apps.
bullka said:
Thanks! I will do a Nandroid backup of the whole system to be able to go back to my Stock ROM and Apps.
But what I need additionally to be able to migrate between ROMs fast?
Is Titanium backup the only tool needed?
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Be carefull only backup user apps, not system's
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msedek said:
Nandroid its your option, the cwm backup tool will leave your phone exactly the same it is now thats whats called nandroid
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3
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So I have a nandroid backup of stock ROM now im using Gummy ROM, can I just restore my nandroid backup to STOCK if needed?
2 weeks ago I bricked my phone while trying to perform nandroid backup.using my handset warrenty now I have got a new motherboard.do not try to perform nandroid backup on samsung galaxy pro
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maruf22 said:
2 weeks ago I bricked my phone while trying to perform nandroid backup.using my handset warrenty now I have got a new motherboard.do not try to perform nandroid backup on samsung galaxy pro
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You have a completely different phone, could be why it doesn't work, but that'd be a guess. I've created and restored multiple nandroids on my device without an issue.
alcaloide_ said:
So I have a nandroid backup of stock ROM now im using Gummy ROM, can I just restore my nandroid backup to STOCK if needed?
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Yes you can no problem
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1) can you have more than one backup?( like a venom viper rom backup and a stock rom backup and android revolution backup?)
2) if you can have more than one backup can i basically switch from rom to rom, ( performing a factory reset then backing that preferred rom)
3) is there any way i can backup my apps on my phone to be restored when i install a new rom without having to pay, like titanium backup, you need to pay the pro version for dropbox.
nty123 said:
1) can you have more than one backup?( like a venom viper rom backup and a stock rom backup and android revolution backup?)
2) if you can have more than one backup can i basically switch from rom to rom, ( performing a factory reset then backing that preferred rom)
3) is there any way i can backup my apps on my phone to be restored when i install a new rom without having to pay, like titanium backup, you need to pay the pro version for dropbox.
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You can have as many backups as the phones memory can hold, and switch back and forth between them freeley with a full wipe in between (excluding the sdcard of course).
Check out nandroid manager on the market. It can pull your apps and their data from a nandroid backup and restore them to your current rom.
cmlusco said:
You can have as many backups as the phones memory can hold, and switch back and forth between them freeley with a full wipe in between (excluding the sdcard of course).
Check out nandroid manager on the market. It can pull your apps and their data from a nandroid backup and restore them to your current rom.
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ok cool, when i use nandroid backup to restore the apps from the nandroid backup will the apps still be on that backuped rom on twrp?
Yes it does not change the backup files in any way.
cmlusco said:
Yes it does not change the backup files in any way.
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ok cool thanks for your fast response.