Hey i just messed up my wifi connection trying to enable ad-hoc on my desire. so i was thinking of flashing it with DJ Droid. so i wanted to know if i do so i have a nandroid backup with me will it restore all the applications and games after the flash and restore?
ronak_1078 said:
Hey i just messed up my wifi connection trying to enable ad-hoc on my desire. so i was thinking of flashing it with DJ Droid. so i wanted to know if i do so i have a nandroid backup with me will it restore all the applications and games after the flash and restore?
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Simple answer is NO.
The nandroid backup can only be done after you have rooted. So if you are not yet rooted you can't use it. Also, nandroid is not an app backup system. It will restore your phone to the state it was in directly before you did the backup. This means it will replace your rom, aswell as all other settings.
The only time to use nandroid is before flashing a new rom as a safeguard against the new rom not working or you not liking it.
If you want to backup your games and apps. I'd use titanium backup (requires root) or my backup pro.
what about clockswork backup one? does it backup the applications? and yeah its rooted
Nandroid is nandroid. It will do a complete backup- rom, apps, settings etc. If you use it, it will restore your phone to the old rom.
Think of it as windows system restore. It restores the phone to the state it was in directly before you did the backup. So everything you did after the backup will be undone.
clockswork=nandroid?
Clockworkmod recovery or any other custom recovery you choose has nandroid and it is all the same.
Maybe 3rd time lucky here...... Nandroid in whatever form is not an app. backup system. It is a total phone backup.
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So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
techdude54 said:
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
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In what situation would i use titanium back up with a rooted evo?
Titanium backs up your app and data from your phone. I am rooted and I use it when I need it, when I want to re install apps when I switch roms.
Using my HTC Evo phone which I'm using Xda app to post
evo4gfan said:
So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
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Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
evo4gfan said:
okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
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Yes
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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I use Titanium Backup for backing up data and restoring it on a new ROM a lot. Before I flash a new ROM I always do a complete Titanium Backup and a nandroid backup. If the flash fails I restore from my nandroid backup and if the flash works I load my apps back with Titanium Backup (that way all my saved data on things like games is there and I don't have to start over).
I will caution against doing a restore of everything on a new ROM though (mostly a problem if you're going from something like a stock Evo based ROM to a AOSP ROM). I've had some issues when I restored a few system files (accounts database for example). If you stick with installable applications you shouldn't run into any trouble though (also I've had no problems restoring my call log and text message database).
When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
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When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
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I didn't know that, thanks for the tip.
So I am rooted and flashed Myn's RLS#4. No problems
Now I am adding a few new items but am confused with a few things.
Titanium Backup
ROM Manager
Nandroid backup
Most of what I read says to do a Nandroid backup. I know how to, but where does Titanium Backup and ROM Manager come into play. Do I need to do all?
mugsaway said:
So I am rooted and flashed Myn's RLS#4. No problems
Now I am adding a few new items but am confused with a few things.
Titanium Backup
ROM Manager
Nandroid backup
Most of what I read says to do a Nandroid backup. I know how to, but where does Titanium Backup and ROM Manager come into play. Do I need to do all?
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Titanium Backup - saves your applications on SD card so that it may save and re-use on a new ROM
ROM Manager - Download new ROMs onto your sd card to flash
Nandroid backup - Only takes a backup of your whole actual phone so that you can go back and start over from the first backup in case a problem or bug or accident in the system occurs.
Only Amon_Ra's recovery makes nandroids which back up your 4G radio parameters. You might try searching, use google instead of the xda forum tools, just include"xda evo" in the search line.
Hey I'm just trying to figure out the difference between using Titanium Back up and just making a Nandroid back up... What's the difference?
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titanium backup is app to backup your apps (system+ user) and your data but not ROM i.e you cannot make backup of rom with that
whereas nandroid backup does all what titanium do with backup of rom too.
so you can restore titanium backup in any rom(OF YOUR PHONE) and get your data back but if you restore nandroid it will restore whole system including ROM
creative_md said:
titanium backup is app to backup your apps (system+ user) and your data but not ROM i.e you cannot make backup of rom with that
whereas nandroid backup does all what titanium do with backup of rom too.
so you can restore titanium backup in any rom(OF YOUR PHONE) and get your data back but if you restore nandroid it will restore whole system including ROM
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I'm currently running 2.3.3 stock rom, would it be better to use titanium or make a nandroid back up via CWM?
Xperia Player said:
I'm currently running 2.3.3 stock rom, would it be better to use titanium or make a nandroid back up via CWM?
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I do both. A CWM backup is a near-full restore in case something screws your phone over. Titanium Backup is there to help with switching between roms, or backing up apps for safe keeping
Xperia Player said:
I'm currently running 2.3.3 stock rom, would it be better to use titanium or make a nandroid back up via CWM?
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Nandroid backup is must as jacklebott said if you mess up with roms and got something wrong no need to flash ftf files and start over again just restore nandroid through cwm and your phone will be like it was before
in case of titanium backup its your choice as if you changed your rom and want apps of your previous rom just restore it
i recommend both as you can save them in your pc too( if your prob. is with sd card space) and when needed copy them to sd card with card reader
I have a couple questions if someone can answer them for me. First off, I have a boost galaxy s3, rooted. Right now I am on CWM, does anyone know if 4ext is compatible with this phone. I went to google play store under 4 ext and on the left it says it is, just want to verify before I install this.
Next question is a little more in depth.
I am in a dilemma. I had a s2 (rooted and on a custom rom)and had issues with the gps, so I upgraded to a s3. I did a nandroid backup and also tit backup of my important apps. After I did this, we pulled out the sd card and they did a factory reset on the s2. I have since rooted my s3 and installed tit backup, but when I go to restore, it says theres nothing to restore. I also went into es file explorer and the tit backup folder is empty. For whatever reason, I don't have the tit backup. I still have the nandroid backup I made on my s2, although I don't have the s2 phone anymore. The data on some of these apps is very important to me and I am crushed that I lost all that. Does anyone know if there is a way to pull apart the nandroid backup to get at this data so tit backup would be able to restore the data from these apps? I only have 2 or 3 of these apps data that I really need. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated.
You can retrieve information form a Nandroid Backup with Titanium Backup. That being said, I would advice against restoring Data. Unless it's from games. If you do restore Data, try to never restore System Data.
You can also check out Nandroid Manager.
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prboy1969 said:
You can retrieve information form a Nandroid Backup with Titanium Backup. That being said, I would advice against restoring Data. Unless it's from games. If you do restore Data, try to never rest.
Thanks for the response. Will tit backup allow me to pull apart the nandroid backup and find the folder with a particular apps data then, if so, how do I go about doing that?? I looked at the options in tit backup and could not figure out a way to do this. Also, would it be easier to maybe use some program on my pc to do this instead of my phone??
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Either one should allow you to Extract Data from a Nandroid. In Titanium Backup you would navigate to : Menu - SPECIAL BACKUP ? RESTORE - Extract from Nandroid backup - Choose the backup. Then let it load up. Choose what you want to restore. Once again I would caution against restoring System Data.
There was a option in tit bu ofr extracting from nandroid bu and it flawlessly to restore my app data to those apps. Thanks for everyones suggestions and feedback.
1) can you have more than one backup?( like a venom viper rom backup and a stock rom backup and android revolution backup?)
2) if you can have more than one backup can i basically switch from rom to rom, ( performing a factory reset then backing that preferred rom)
3) is there any way i can backup my apps on my phone to be restored when i install a new rom without having to pay, like titanium backup, you need to pay the pro version for dropbox.
nty123 said:
1) can you have more than one backup?( like a venom viper rom backup and a stock rom backup and android revolution backup?)
2) if you can have more than one backup can i basically switch from rom to rom, ( performing a factory reset then backing that preferred rom)
3) is there any way i can backup my apps on my phone to be restored when i install a new rom without having to pay, like titanium backup, you need to pay the pro version for dropbox.
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You can have as many backups as the phones memory can hold, and switch back and forth between them freeley with a full wipe in between (excluding the sdcard of course).
Check out nandroid manager on the market. It can pull your apps and their data from a nandroid backup and restore them to your current rom.
cmlusco said:
You can have as many backups as the phones memory can hold, and switch back and forth between them freeley with a full wipe in between (excluding the sdcard of course).
Check out nandroid manager on the market. It can pull your apps and their data from a nandroid backup and restore them to your current rom.
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ok cool, when i use nandroid backup to restore the apps from the nandroid backup will the apps still be on that backuped rom on twrp?
Yes it does not change the backup files in any way.
cmlusco said:
Yes it does not change the backup files in any way.
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ok cool thanks for your fast response.