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WiFi speedtest on 30mbps internet

SPH-L710 (Sprint Official Stock Firmware Android 4.1.1) Rooted
I have 30mbps down and 2mbps internet package
im getting between 16mbps and 20mbps down and 2mbps to 3mbps up.
my laptop with built-in wireless card gets pretty much the same but when i use my usb wifi adapter (linksys in 2.4ghz mode) it gets 30mbps down and close to the same upload.
my router is a belkin n300 share with stock belkin firmware
so i know the router can do 30mbps over wifi as my linksys usb wifi adapter proves that.
just wondering why my laptop AND GS3 only get about 20mbps consistantly over wifi....
anyone do a test on their S3 over "WIFI" and see what they get or tell me what is wrong with my laptop and s3?
the router can not do 5ghz it is only capeable of 2.4ghz and b/g/n with 20mhz/40mhz bandwith
when i use that linksys usb wifi adapter its really working good but im surprised the GS3 is not, the laptop i could even understand getting the 20mbps (wireless-n 1030 built-in)
it dont seem like any setting i make really changes the speed for the laptop or the phone
suggestions would be great

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en11gma said:
SPH-L710 (Sprint Official Stock Firmware Android 4.1.1) Rooted
I have 30mbps down and 2mbps internet package
im getting between 16mbps and 20mbps down and 2mbps to 3mbps up.
my laptop with built-in wireless card gets pretty much the same but when i use my usb wifi adapter (linksys in 2.4ghz mode) it gets 30mbps down and close to the same upload.
my router is a belkin n300 share with stock belkin firmware
so i know the router can do 30mbps over wifi as my linksys usb wifi adapter proves that.
just wondering why my laptop AND GS3 only get about 20mbps consistantly over wifi....
anyone do a test on their S3 over "WIFI" and see what they get or tell me what is wrong with my laptop and s3?
the router can not do 5ghz it is only capeable of 2.4ghz and b/g/n with 20mhz/40mhz bandwith
when i use that linksys usb wifi adapter its really working good but im surprised the GS3 is not, the laptop i could even understand getting the 20mbps (wireless-n 1030 built-in)
it dont seem like any setting i make really changes the speed for the laptop or the phone
suggestions would be great
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Have you used multiple speed test sites to get these scores? Some are inaccurate.

dhunt4949 said:
Have you used multiple speed test sites to get these scores? Some are inaccurate.
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yep
i pick the servers with speedtest app
im picking the same exact server i get 30mpbs with my linksys usb adapter
just wanted to note:
when using iPerf (only checking b/w over the lan) i get about 10mbps from s3 to laptop wireless n 1030 buitlin
when hooking laptop straight to router with lan cord and run iperf i get the same 20mbps on the s3
there is something wrong with the wifi in the S3 i believe

could be
en11gma said:
yep
i pick the servers with speedtest app
im picking the same exact server i get 30mpbs with my linksys usb adapter
just wanted to note:
when using iPerf (only checking b/w over the lan) i get about 10mbps from s3 to laptop wireless n 1030 buitlin
when hooking laptop straight to router with lan cord and run iperf i get the same 20mbps on the s3
there is something wrong with the wifi in the S3 i believe
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In that case, Have you tried another rom or a full wipe?

dhunt4949 said:
In that case, Have you tried another rom or a full wipe?
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how about someone here verify this is a problem i found
tell me what you get. im sure you are gonna check if you have a fast connection to the internet over wifi

ask someone to do a speed test over wifi and no one wants to take the time to do it?
takes a few mins

Nope my laptop and gs3 get the same speeds. In also have 30mbps down and 5 upload
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png

en11gma said:
SPH-L710 (Sprint Official Stock Firmware Android 4.1.1) Rooted
I have 30mbps down and 2mbps internet package
im getting between 16mbps and 20mbps down and 2mbps to 3mbps up.
my laptop with built-in wireless card gets pretty much the same but when i use my usb wifi adapter (linksys in 2.4ghz mode) it gets 30mbps down and close to the same upload.
my router is a belkin n300 share with stock belkin firmware
so i know the router can do 30mbps over wifi as my linksys usb wifi adapter proves that.
just wondering why my laptop AND GS3 only get about 20mbps consistantly over wifi....
anyone do a test on their S3 over "WIFI" and see what they get or tell me what is wrong with my laptop and s3?
the router can not do 5ghz it is only capeable of 2.4ghz and b/g/n with 20mhz/40mhz bandwith
when i use that linksys usb wifi adapter its really working good but im surprised the GS3 is not, the laptop i could even understand getting the 20mbps (wireless-n 1030 built-in)
it dont seem like any setting i make really changes the speed for the laptop or the phone
suggestions would be great
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The USB WiFi adapter are far more advanced an faster than that of a phone or laptop its not a modem issue or device issue its just simply the WiFi adapters inside our devices i have a similar issue where i have a 35mbs plan and i only got around 15-20mbs i upgraded my router and now i nearly achieve my 35mbs mark but no matter what router you get if you use Ethernet or a USB WiFi card the internet will be faster because generally computers interpret internet faster over a hard connection vs a wireless connection where u still loose around 5-10mbs the only possible solution is maybe invest in a different router with the option to direct more bandwidth via WiFi or change your WiFi broadcast frequency to only one type or frequency weather it be 801.11n or 802.11g or 802.11b choose ONE that is fastest not all 3 or which ever you have because that generally slows your internet by great amounts as well
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daniel4653 said:
Nope my laptop and gs3 get the same speeds. In also have 30mbps down and 5 upload
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png
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and what were your speeds you got on both your laptop and gs3?
jazz995756 said:
The USB WiFi adapter are far more advanced an faster than that of a phone or laptop its not a modem issue or device issue its just simply the WiFi adapters inside our devices i have a similar issue where i have a 35mbs plan and i only got around 15-20mbs i upgraded my router and now i nearly achieve my 35mbs mark but no matter what router you get if you use Ethernet or a USB WiFi card the internet will be faster because generally computers interpret internet faster over a hard connection vs a wireless connection where u still loose around 5-10mbs the only possible solution is maybe invest in a different router with the option to direct more bandwidth via WiFi or change your WiFi broadcast frequency to only one type or frequency weather it be 801.11n or 802.11g or 802.11b choose ONE that is fastest not all 3 or which ever you have because that generally slows your internet by great amounts as well
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why exactly do the phone (gs3 in this case) and the laptop (built-in intel wireless-n 1030) get the same speeds?
with wireless-n (even at 2,4) single antenna it should get close to 150mbps (theorectical)
wireless G = 54mbps in actuality it is around 20mbps which is what im getting and yep i checked both the laptop and the gs3 show as wireless n connections
you made an interesting point about putting the router in a single mode like "N" and i have tried that but both the laptop and the phone will not connect unless i put the router in b/g/n mode
the linksys usb adapter will connect ok with the router in wireless "N" mode
i am running latest belkin firmware for my f7d3302 router

Because its a wireless signal most devices interpret signals much better through Ethernet or USB just because it cant capture the signal fast enough and long enough to keep it stable enough to stay at the same speed the router is broadcasting at sure enough the router is broadcasting at a stable speed but the device wont capture it fast enough the only solution i found is what i mentioned to either get a router which makes a more stronger secure signal or broadcast at only one frequency and the s3 should capture N maybe try changing from 2.4 to 5.0 and try N again otherwise there might be a hardware issue because i use my router at 2.4 with 801.11n on channel 10 and my internet is almost as fast as Ethernet and far longer range
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en11gma said:
and what were your speeds you got on both your laptop and gs3?
why exactly do the phone (gs3 in this case) and the laptop (built-in intel wireless-n 1030) get the same speeds?
with wireless-n (even at 2,4) single antenna it should get close to 150mbps (theorectical)
wireless G = 54mbps in actuality it is around 20mbps which is what im getting and yep i checked both the laptop and the gs3 show as wireless n connections
you made an interesting point about putting the router in a single mode like "N" and i have tried that but both the laptop and the phone will not connect unless i put the router in b/g/n mode
the linksys usb adapter will connect ok with the router in wireless "N" mode
i am running latest belkin firmware for my f7d3302 router
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28-32 down and 4-6 upload
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png

Or maybe your laptop and phone aren't setup properly to register this type of signal i know i had to call Acer to get my laptop to register a N signal so might want to play around with your wireless settings
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was able to put router in wireless n mode only (2.4ghz) by enabling "802.11e/WMM QoS"
now laptop with built-in nic and s3 can both connect at wireless n only
the laptop speed did jump up to what the hard wire ethernet cable AND linksys usb wifi are getting
they are all getting 28mbps (within a 1mbps deviation)
the phone is still stuck at 18-22mbps.
daniel4653
so the phone can actually get over 22mbps in "WIFI" mode?
are you on 5ghz N or 2.4ghz N?
would like to add
iperf from the phone to the laptop (builtin nic) is now getting 25mbps in multiple runs
this is on the local lan only in wireless N mode (2.4ghz) with 20/40 enabled in router
so this is a big improvement over the 7-10mbps i was getting earlier but the wifi connected to net is still 20mbps

en11gma said:
was able to put router in wireless n mode only (2.4ghz) by enabling "802.11e/WMM QoS"
now laptop with built-in nic and s3 can both connect at wireless n only
the laptop speed did jump up to what the hard wire ethernet cable AND linksys usb wifi are getting
they are all getting 28mbps (within a 1mbps deviation)
the phone is still stuck at 18-22mbps.
daniel4653
so the phone can actually get over 22mbps in "WIFI" mode?
are you on 5ghz N or 2.4ghz N?
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With phones there is a bigger difference because they're might be many factors like the modem the type of WiFi chip the size of the chip range and capability also what ROM your running just too much that might vary but on my phone on average i get around 20mbs it seems to me there's a 10mbs variation because at work we have a 100mbs connection and i get around 85mbs i believe the s3 maxes out at 100 but to reach that you have to have some fast internet and either a gaming router or a business router
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on wireless n (2.4ghz) it should connect the "link speed" at 150mbps
when its at 150mbps this indicates "Channel Bonding" is working
im getting 72mbps and i had been reading other cellphone that had similar problems @ 75mbps
to my understanding the phones were not channel bonding correctly.
i have had 3-4 people saying all kinds of stuff without really saying anything scientific.
i could have done that too but instead i knew there was a real problem
i kept digging and am sharing my experience as i find out what is really going on.
to check your "link speed" you can long press on your wifi connection and then go advance and scroll down and it should show it.
you can also get wifi analyzer and change the view and then select your connection
from what it looks like this galaxy s3 and my belkin n300 share router are not getting along.
i need another router to see if that is the problem or if it is really my phone and the software its running.
if other people with their devices would post your findings here it would be great
thanks

I have Verizon fios quantum 150/75 my S3 never sees above 40/50. I have the newest Verizon actiontek rev. I router. My desktop receives 160/79 on LAN
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blazerboy567 said:
I have Verizon fios quantum 150/75 my S3 never sees above 40/50. I have the newest Verizon actiontek rev. I router. My desktop receives 160/79 on LAN
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Thats ridiculous
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blazerboy567 said:
I have Verizon fios quantum 150/75 my S3 never sees above 40/50. I have the newest Verizon actiontek rev. I router. My desktop receives 160/79 on LAN
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holy crap
looks like you are going to be the record holder
i take it that is at 5ghz and link speed is at 150
what is the fastest speeds you can get in wifi with only 2.4ghz?

40/50 is at 5ghz never tried setting the router to board cast 2.4ghz only. Is that the case why I do not see speeds higher then 40/50 on my S3. Never really thought about it
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blazerboy567 said:
40/50 is at 5ghz never tried setting the router to board cast 2.4ghz only. Is that the case why I do not see speeds higher then 40/50 on my S3. Never really thought about it
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if you try to put your router at 2.4ghz (wireless n with 20/40) and connect your phone at "link speed 150mbps" you might still get that same 40/50
if your "link speed = 72mbps" like mine you will probably only get 20mbps down and prob same thing up
im pretty curious as it does seem like your phone and internet is working correctly

Slow Wifi

I am getting low speeds when using wifi on GS3 compared to my computer and brothers nexus 4. In my room which is the room next to the living room with the router I get about 16-20 mbps on 2.4 ghz and about 8-10 on 5ghz. My brother was getting about 40mbps on his nexus and my computer about 46 mbps.
What can I do to fix?

aamir123 said:
I am getting low speeds when using wifi on GS3 compared to my computer and brothers nexus 4. In my room which is the room next to the living room with the router I get about 16-20 mbps on 2.4 ghz and about 8-10 on 5ghz. My brother was getting about 40mbps on his nexus and my computer about 46 mbps.
What can I do to fix?
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You could try on the ROM to set for one frequency band only instead of Auto. For example, 2.4 and not 5ghz. Also, your Router's admin page could give preference to a particular device with QoS settings.
Maybe reboot the router and cable modem/dsl to see if that might help.
It's a possibility you could try to change the wifi channel you are connecting on as well. It may be set as auto but may get interference. I would only caution, the laptops seems to have higher powered antennas and our phones usually aren't terribly high power so they may have the possibility of being susceptible to more interference whereas the laptop is not.

Get inSSIDer from the play store. It will help you find the best wifi channel.
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TomTcom said:
You could try on the ROM to set for one frequency band only instead of Auto. For example, 2.4 and not 5ghz. Also, your Router's admin page could give preference to a particular device with QoS settings.
Maybe reboot the router and cable modem/dsl to see if that might help.
It's a possibility you could try to change the wifi channel you are connecting on as well. It may be set as auto but may get interference. I would only caution, the laptops seems to have higher powered antennas and our phones usually aren't terribly high power so they may have the possibility of being susceptible to more interference whereas the laptop is not.
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I turned QoS off, speeds on every other device are great except for the phone itself. Like I said my bro standing next to me and my laptop in my room got around 40mbps (nexus 4) and my laptop got around 46-48 mbps while my S3 was only able to pull near 20mbps. I've tried limiting my frequency scans to 2.4ghz or 5ghz only and have not noticed any differences. Actually 5ghz seems to be slower which is weird since my bro and my phone are the only ones able to connect to that band. You guys think changing wifi drivers would make a difference in my phone? I know different kernels have different wifi drivers built in.
DocHoliday77 said:
Get inSSIDer from the play store. It will help you find the best wifi channel.
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I used wifi analyzer to set the channel.
any other help from anyone would be appreciated.

Having issues with 802.11ac

My Note 3 is having issues holding on to my wireless connection. I have an Asus RT-AC66U running merlin firmware. It connects temporarily, then disconnects and says it disabled the network because the Internet connection is to slow. I have had 3 other 802.llac compatible devices working without problems. 2.4GHz 802.11n works fine. I'll dig in more when I get back home. Anybody else having issues?
edit:
Apparently this thing doesn't like 5GHz networks at all, and it doesn't even see ad-hoc networks shared from two laptops I have tested. I might have to get it replaced, as I haven't seen to many other people having problems. It is definitely a problem with the phone and not my network connection.

agent4678 said:
My Note 3 is having issues holding on to my wireless connection. I have an Asus RT-AC66U running merlin firmware. It connects temporarily, then disconnects and says it disabled the network because the Internet connection is to slow. I have had 3 other 802.llac compatible devices working without problems. 2.4GHz 802.11n works fine. I'll dig in more when I get back home. Anybody else having issues?
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Apparently this thing doesn't like 5GHz networks at all, and it doesn't even see ad-hoc networks shared from two laptops I have tested. I might have to get it replaced, as I haven't seen to many other people having problems. It is definitely a problem with the phone and not my network connection.
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I have the same model router using stock firmware and had the same issue with the disconnects with my Note 3 while other devices were working perfectly. I powercycled my router yesterday and I have not had the issue return.....yet.

Appolusionist said:
I have the same model router using stock firmware and had the same issue with the disconnects with my Note 3 while other devices were working perfectly. I powercycled my router yesterday and I have not had the issue return.....yet.
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The WiFi on this phone is horrible. It says I have unstable WiFi meanwhile I am right next to the router
TWEAKED 2.5

Same issue here, I have Asus RT-AC66U and the Note 3 keeps disconnecting from the 5GHz while other devices are fine on wifi

802.11ac won't be an official finished standard until next year, so, there's still room for improvement. New firmware for an AC AP and note3 should probably iron out bugs.
I'm about ready to upgrade to the Asus RT-AC66U myself (once it drops below $180 again), from a 2-year-old Netgear wndr3700 w/ddwrt. Will probably slap DDWRT onto it as well to compare wireless performance.

I finally have some time off to do some testing this weekend so I'll see what I come up with. I did notice that sometimes the connection would stabilize if i was sitting near the router and start acting crazy when I got up to do something. I disabled the "Explicit beamforming" option in the router and did notice an improvement. The top test below is with beamorming enabled. The bottom test was with it disabled. Still dropped a little in the middle but much better than before. I toggled the setting and ran the test a few times and was able to repeat the results, though this still might be nothing. Ill report back later with anything else I find.
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asus ac66u
I am also running merlins firmware on my ac66u...I cant watch youtube videos while on wifi for some reason and also phone calls drop while using wifi calling...hopefully samsung will get the drivers straight a.s.a.p. everything else connects fine(15 devices) no problem...

Just for giggles, what's the phone ac speed? They're only doing 72 n 2.4, 150 n5. What's the ac5? Why don't they work on maxing n5 before jumping the gun.

wing_addict_usa said:
Just for giggles, what's the phone ac speed? They're only doing 72 n 2.4, 150 n5. What's the ac5? Why don't they work on maxing n5 before jumping the gun.
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The AC speed on this phone goes up to 433Mbps

Hello there... I just wanted to mention that i had made the jump to netgear ac1450 (ac, 2.4ghz, 5ghz) it was between that and the asus. But i picked the netgear because costco had a special sale on it, plus costco has awesome Costumer Service, and warranty in case something goes wrong... anyhow long story short, i am able to use both the 2.4 ghz and the 5 ghz without any hickups at least for now( knock on wood). although i would like more range it is definitely outdoing my linksys wrt54g which i had dd-wrt installed on both speed and range. From about 30 feet i get about 3-4 bars on the 2.4 ghz and about 2-3 bars on 5 ghz. also the signal is going through 2 ceilings. I will update if i experience any trouble, honestly i was a little worried when i received my phone because i had some wifi issues the first couple of days ( drop wifi and what not) but i haven't noticed it recently ive had the note 3 for about 2-3 weeks so far.

truDanki said:
Hello there... I just wanted to mention that i had made the jump to netgear ac1450 (ac, 2.4ghz, 5ghz) it was between that and the asus. But i picked the netgear because costco had a special sale on it, plus costco has awesome Costumer Service, and warranty in case something goes wrong... anyhow long story short, i am able to use both the 2.4 ghz and the 5 ghz without any hickups at least for now( knock on wood). although i would like more range it is definitely outdoing my linksys wrt54g which i had dd-wrt installed on both speed and range. From about 30 feet i get about 3-4 bars on the 2.4 ghz and about 2-3 bars on 5 ghz. also the signal is going through 2 ceilings. I will update if i experience any trouble, honestly i was a little worried when i received my phone because i had some wifi issues the first couple of days ( drop wifi and what not) but i haven't noticed it recently ive had the note 3 for about 2-3 weeks so far.
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Interesting. Your Netgear appears to use the BCM4708 chip, whereas the ASUS uses the BCM4706. I wonder if the BCM4339 in the Note 3 is more compatible with one over the other. You would think that coming from the same manufacturer they would all be compatible. I am still running my phone through some tests, but so far it seems like there is something hardware/software related in this phone that does not like any 5GHz network I connect it to. Disabling explicit beamforming helped for a while, but the problem started happening again this morning.

just a quick update, i just flashed the latest firmware o my netgear ac1450 router which enhances/enables beamforming+ especially on 5ghz (from version 1.0.0.8 to 1.0.0.14) and i must say that my connection has improved further more its mostly on 3 bars sometimes 4 although i still seen it drop to 2 every now and then..

I returned the ASUS and ordered a netgear r7000 for a few bucks more. It should be here by Wednesday. I'll see how wifi works then, but I am not holding my breath.

RT-AC68R on 3.0.0.4.374_339 is good
agent4678 said:
I returned the ASUS and ordered a netgear r7000 for a few bucks more. It should be here by Wednesday. I'll see how wifi works then, but I am not holding my breath.
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FWIW, I have the Asus RT-AC68R on stock firmware 3.0.0.4.374_339. My wireless on 5GHz has been solid. I did a Speedtest last night which came back with 29.3Mbps down and 3.8Mbps up, and this was sitting one room away from the AP.
Before flashing to this firmware however, the 5GHz would never stay connected and once disconnected, I would have to access the router control panel and make a change, then exit and the 5GHz would be back. But now, on the newer firmware, it's been very good.

I am using the netgear r6300 v2 with stock firmware with no problems

I am using the RT-AC68U with AC I have no problems on my note 3. Only thing I guess you could say is a issue is every now and then the phone connects to WiFi and shows no WiFi signal but it connects and runs fine. If I reboot the phone the problem is gone. It happens like once every other week if that. I have the Comcast 300mbps down and 25mbps up connection. The highest the phone has done with WiFi is 165mbps down. This is on whatever the latest firmware is now.

Don't u have to change the SSID to make sure u are using the AC signal properly?

ffletchs said:
Same issue here, I have Asus RT-AC66U and the Note 3 keeps disconnecting from the 5GHz while other devices are fine on wifi
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I also experience this issue with my RT-AC66U. I think the problem is that ASUS hasn't put in the option to set the 5GHz band as 100% 802.11ac, so if anyone else is connected it has to drop down to whatever crappy standard is before it. The current 802.11ac routers are really designed to be bridged to a second one. The insane throughput lets you create a solid high speed 2.4GHz network across a decent sized area.However, 802.11ad is going to poop on everything.
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Don't u have to change the SSID to make sure u are using the AC signal properly?
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You have to chance the SSID to separate the 2.4GHz and 5GHz channels. If you wan't guaranteed AC you'd have to only allow supporting devices on that band.

This is my two cents.
I use RT-AC66U with stock firm ware. I set up two SSIDs one for each frequency. That way if one falls over it will connect to the other connection. In My experience the 5ghz works best.
There are mixed results in this thread. What works for one does not work for another. I don't think it is the router, the Note 3 just does not play nice with Wifi. In researching Wifi problems was not tied to one router it points more to the Note 3.
Since I set up two SSID I have found it more reliable. I also use Tasker to control my Wifi and reassociate the Wifi connection.
I also found this problem to be intermittent. I have had my Note 3 since the release and did not have problems until last month. For the last few weeks it seems to be more reliable.
T-MOBILE has a trouble shooting page.
https://t-mobile.jive-mobile.com/#j...e.jive-mobile.com/api/core/v2/documents/10033
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FWIW, I also had a horrible time with TouchWhiz disconnecting my 5GHz wifi all the time, saying "Your WiFi is Unstable". I have a Netgear R7000 router, known for its awesome range, but still TouchWhiz complained even when I was getting 4/5 bars. Anyway, long story short: After switching to CyanogenMod a couple weeks ago my WiFi problems are gone.
e.g.: When playing GoogleMusic via ChromeCast in another room, I often couldn't even play half a dozen songs before randomly having my 5GHz connection dropped, which results in the playlist being stopped as well, and getting kicked back to the GoogleMusic "play something" screen. With CM, I haven't had a dropout yet. Soooo... clientside firmware matters, and this is something that Samsung might have a fix for down the road in their KK update.

[Q] Nexus 7 (2013) wifi speeds / which router do you have

Hi everyone,
I have my Nexus 7 connected to a Linksys WRT160N router with tomatoRAF firmware installed. This router+firmware+configuration setup was the best I could do without constant dropping of connection or not connecting at all, but still at very slow speed of 0,5 - 1,5 MB/s (average is more around 0,6) when copying files on local network (SMB) with ES File Explorer. Which is good enough for web surfing and emails, but not enough for IPTV and youtube (youtube works, but i have to wait for it a lot).
So far i have tried numerous configurations of my router, nothing works. I tried other routers, 9 to be exact, but i have never seen more than 2MB/s.
Now i'm thinking about buying new router, and I want to know what wifi speeds do you get with which router.
thanks

Hi,
what's your net speed? mine is 26 mbit/s and this is what i get. however, IF you stream sound with BT/have any BT service up and running and your wifi runs at 2.4ghz it is highly probable the two (bt and wifi) interfere. This was the problem i had and which i found out after buying soundbar which links with its subwoofer via BT(BT butchered my wifi, i was scoring 1mbit to up to 26). I have switched to dual band modem/router (tp link td-w8980). now, i have two WiFi networks at my place, one which runs at 2.4ghz and the second at 5ghz. the 5ghz is used only by my nexus :]

N7 2013, Buffalo N300 router, Verizon FiOS 75/25. The router is dual channel, but not dual band: 2.4GHz only.
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enlev said:
Hi everyone,
I have my Nexus 7 connected to a Linksys WRT160N router with tomatoRAF firmware installed. This router+firmware+configuration setup was the best I could do without constant dropping of connection or not connecting at all, but still at very slow speed of 0,5 - 1,5 MB/s (average is more around 0,6) when copying files on local network (SMB) with ES File Explorer. Which is good enough for web surfing and emails, but not enough for IPTV and youtube (youtube works, but i have to wait for it a lot).
So far i have tried numerous configurations of my router, nothing works. I tried other routers, 9 to be exact, but i have never seen more than 2MB/s.
Now i'm thinking about buying new router, and I want to know what wifi speeds do you get with which router.
thanks
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I had throughput issues with a Linksys WRT54GL and Tomato, was not a configuration problem. Loved the way Tomato worked, how it looked, it's options... but in the end, all I really cared about was throughput. Are you able to replicate the throughput issue on stock router firmware? You said you tried other routers. All the same model (RMA)?
Tell me more about your connectivity issues.
If you've used different routers from different manufacturers (with their respective stock firmware), then it's probably a problem with your tablet.

Aerowinder said:
I had throughput issues with a Linksys WRT54GL and Tomato, was not a configuration problem. Loved the way Tomato worked, how it looked, it's options... but in the end, all I really cared about was throughput. Are you able to replicate the throughput issue on stock router firmware? You said you tried other routers. All the same model (RMA)?
Tell me more about your connectivity issues.
If you've used different routers from different manufacturers (with their respective stock firmware), then it's probably a problem with your tablet.
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I had this throughput issue from the day I received my nexus 7 (2013), with stock firmware on router. But with stock firmware, the connection would drop randomly (from 5 minutes to 12 hours) and to reconnect i had to restart the router and nexus - this was corrected only with this firmware TomatoRAF (i tried dd-wrt and 2 more tomato firmwares - all kept disconnecting). I never had this throughput issue with any laptop, only this nexus.
The other routers i tried were all different routers, but all at least 3 years old.
Another information: friends nexus 7 (2013) WIFI, flo, also had same speeds on my router.
today i will try to test a few phones and a laptop on my router and will post results as soon as i can

32gb lte model, I use an Asus ac66u and Comcast 105\25 Mbps. 5ghz WiFi gets me 90 Mbps down and 22-30 up, 55 Mbps down and 22-30 up on 2.4 GHz.
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This is what i get (copying files from server with es file explorer):
nexus 7 2013 (kitkat) - 760kB/s
1st xperia ray (kitkat) - 750kB/s
2nd xperia ray (jellybean) - 530kB/s
xperia mini pro (jellybean) - 560kB/s
galaxy s4 mini - 1070kB/s
laptop - 6500kB/s
I used to get 10MB/s+ on my laptop with original linksys firmware, but now i configured router to be more "reliable" and i would be more than happy if nexus had 6,5MB/s connection.
I attached some info about router configuration. If there is an "expert" reading this willing to help, i can post more complete configuration.

DeathmonkeyGTX said:
32gb lte model, I use an Asus ac66u and Comcast 105\25 Mbps. 5ghz WiFi gets me 90 Mbps down and 22-30 up, 55 Mbps down and 22-30 up on 2.4 GHz.
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Are you happy with ac66u? any problems? what about lan to wifi speeds (with laptop/ac adapter)? i am asking as it is a serious contender for my next router

DeathmonkeyGTX said:
32gb lte model, I use an Asus ac66u and Comcast 105\25 Mbps. 5ghz WiFi gets me 90 Mbps down and 22-30 up, 55 Mbps down and 22-30 up on 2.4 GHz.
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I think I hate you! Ok... maybe I'm just a little jealous!
enlev said:
Are you happy with ac66u? any problems? what about lan to wifi speeds (with laptop/ac adapter)? i am asking as it is a serious contender for my next router
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Considering how inexpensive it was I"m extremely happy with the TP-Link WR1043ND that I use. With aftermarket antennas I bought as an experiment and the current firmware installed signal strength through walls and general performance is great. I thought about installing third-party firmware on it when I first got it a couple years ago but see no need. For the package I have from Comcast they advertise I think 25 Mbps down and 5Mbps up and I usually see 28/6. If you haven't already done so make sure your router is using the best channel for your location. Also, I see a lot of people move off of channels 1, 6 and 11 which can make them see/cause more bleedover from/to adjacent channels. You can see that in my screenshot with networks MercedesBenz and Sandvik. I live in a house but the effect in an apartment or condo would be worse. I also use a repeater because my router is at the opposite end of the house from my backyard patio and this house has insulated steel siding. Wifi Analyzer is a free app and works great to figure out what channel would work best for you.
Also in the N7's wifi advanced settings I use "2.4 GHz only" which seems to make it reconnect faster when waking up the device because I also use "only when plugged in" during sleep.

enlev said:
Are you happy with ac66u? any problems? what about lan to wifi speeds (with laptop/ac adapter)? i am asking as it is a serious contender for my next router
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I haven't had any problems. All my large lan transfers are done over Ethernet cat 6. If it can pull down 90mbps from wan to wlan on two phones and a tablet, well then there's your sign lol. All these speeds are on n WiFi, I haven't even tried ac because all my machines that need all available bandwidth are hardwired. The router hasn't even required rebooting unless one counts firmware updates and such. Hardline lan to lan is right about 100 MB/s.there's an even faster model out called the ac68u but it's significantly more expensive.
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I have the 32GB LTE version... Using an Asus RT-N66U as my access point...
On 2.4 ghz I get 22.5 mbps down and 7.5 mbps up*
On 5 gzh I get 68.4 mbps down and 11.5 mbps up... which is the max speeds I see from my ISP.
*note: there are about 18 strong 2.4 ghz networks visible at my location (surrounded by apartment buildings). 2.4 ghz performance consistently suffers with this level of interference across all of my connected devices.
As far as the RT-N66U goes... I'm very happy with it's performance and range of signal. I was a long time WRT54G user with tomato. This matches almost perfectly.

[Q] Force 2.4Ghz WiFi only.

How do i force the use of a 2.4Ghz WiFi network on my Pixel 2 XL ?
and.. no... turning off the 5Ghz network is not an option as the rest of the devices in the house are all 5GHZ
I have some home automation equipment that has a 2.4Ghz ONLY command hub. It automatically picks a 2.4 channel based on channel usage.
Unfortunately, the app and control device only know to use 2.4Ghz
I can't get my Pixel 2 XL to connect to the control unit as my phone always connects to 5Ghz. All the options within android do not have a setting to force connecting at 2.4Ghz.
I cant return the equipment and the manufacturer said the manual states the need for a 2.4Ghz WiFi capable phone to use with the app. Their website makes no mention of this.

imaverik said:
How do i force the use of a 2.4Ghz WiFi network on my Pixel 2 XL ?
and.. no... turning off the 5Ghz network is not an option as the rest of the devices in the house are all 5GHZ
I have some home automation equipment that has a 2.4Ghz ONLY command hub. It automatically picks a 2.4 channel based on channel usage.
Unfortunately, the app and control device only know to use 2.4Ghz
I can't get my Pixel 2 XL to connect to the control unit as my phone always connects to 5Ghz. All the options within android do not have a setting to force connecting at 2.4Ghz.
I cant return the equipment and the manufacturer said the manual states the need for a 2.4Ghz WiFi capable phone to use with the app. Their website makes no mention of this.
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I'm no tech genius by any means. However, I don't think you can alter the modem in the phone to only pick up 2.4Ghz. I have a similar situation in my house. So, I had my internet provider set up 2 different networks, one 5Ghz and one 2.4Ghz. They have the same password, but different SSID's. Don't know if that helps, but it's the best I can do :good:

What router are you using? My Asus router has 2 separate wifi networks for 2.4 and 5.0, but the devices on each can talk to each other. For example my OG Chromecast in the office is on 2.4 and my phone on 5.0 has no problem whatsoever casting to it. I believe the printer is also on 2.4, and every device on 5 can print no problems. There has to be some setting in the router to allow them to be one network.

Yeah my router has a regular SSID and the same name with _5G at the end. If you have something similar, just forget the 5G network and stick to the 2.4G one.

EeZeEpEe said:
Yeah my router has a regular SSID and the same name with _5G at the end. If you have something similar, just forget the 5G network and stick to the 2.4G one.
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I too have a 2.4 and 5Ghz network. It does seem though its one network on 2 different frequency's. All the dvices in the house only see one network. i got my old 2.4Ghz only usb adapter and it had no issue connecting. so that tells me its one broadcast over two frequency's.
ill have to change this. thanks!

this isn't about 2.4Ghz vs 5.0Ghz frequencies - this is about Network Isolation
If you're having this issue, disable Network Isolation on your router

2x4 said:
this isn't about 2.4Ghz vs 5.0Ghz frequencies - this is about Network Isolation
If you're having this issue, disable Network Isolation on your router
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I see what you mean. Disabling network isolation should let his Pixel stay on the 5g GHz network yet control the hub that can only do 2.4GHz.

EeZeEpEe said:
I see what you mean. Disabling network isolation should let his Pixel stay on the 5g GHz network yet control the hub that can only do 2.4GHz.
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yep, that's correct. It's not usually a setting that's ON by default either

I have a similar problem with some smart outlets that I purchased. You pair them to wifi through your phone but I can't get my phone to connect to 2.4ghz and the plugs aren't compatible with 5ghz. The app isn't smart enough to realize that there is a 2.4ghz with same name/password.
My router is a Google Asus Onhub which has 2.4 and 5ghz with same ID. I ended up pulling out an old wifi extender to get a separate 2.4ghz channel. It works but now I have an extra wifi connection in my house. Not my ideal solution but it worked.
I did some reading after seeing this post and it was suggested to take the plugs and my phone someplace in my house that the 5ghz won't reach but the 2.4 will and my phone will use the 2.4. Then I can pair them with 2.4. So I might try that if I can find a place that the 5ghz won't reach.

henderjr said:
I have a similar problem with some smart outlets that I purchased. You pair them to wifi through your phone but I can't get my phone to connect to 2.4ghz and the plugs aren't compatible with 5ghz. The app isn't smart enough to realize that there is a 2.4ghz with same name/password.
My router is a Google Asus Onhub which has 2.4 and 5ghz with same ID. I ended up pulling out an old wifi extender to get a separate 2.4ghz channel. It works but now I have an extra wifi connection in my house. Not my ideal solution but it worked.
I did some reading after seeing this post and it was suggested to take the plugs and my phone someplace in my house that the 5ghz won't reach but the 2.4 will and my phone will use the 2.4. Then I can pair them with 2.4. So I might try that if I can find a place that the 5ghz won't reach.
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Which brand of smart outlets are you using? That sucks it can't find the 2.4 GHz network of the same SSID of the 5 GHz.

EeZeEpEe said:
Which brand of smart outlets are you using? That sucks it can't find the 2.4 GHz network of the same SSID of the 5 GHz.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075Z17987/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_A5CSAbKDPT8TD
They work fine otherwise. Most I've looked at all only support 2.4 GHz.
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henderjr said:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075Z17987/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_A5CSAbKDPT8TD
They work fine otherwise. Most I've looked at all only support 2.4 GHz.
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Oh okay. I'm thinking of getting a couple TP-link ones.
Yeah I have a Roomba and a smart switch which both require 2.4 GHz network too. But my router and repeater are able to do separate 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz networks. So they're on the 2.4 GHz while my Pixel 2 XL is on the 5 GHz and I can still control them from my phone.

Router: Google Wifi
phone: Pixel XL
Problem: Can't disable the 5 band on the router. Can't select the 2.4 band on the phone.
Solution: Turn on the phone wifi while standing out near my mailbox. Then it connected to 2.4 and allowed me to setup my smart bulbs.

That's a crazy work around. LOL
ShayneF said:
Router: Google Wifi
phone: Pixel XL
Problem: Can't disable the 5 band on the router. Can't select the 2.4 band on the phone.
Solution: Turn on the phone wifi while standing out near my mailbox. Then it connected to 2.4 and allowed me to setup my smart bulbs.
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Why not forget both the 2.4 and 5G networks in your WiFi settings. Rename the 2.4 and 5G to have different names in the Google Wifi, then only connect to the 2.4 Ghz/enter the password. With separate names for the 2.4 and 5Ghz you should be able to isolate.

Separate names is exactly how I manage my 2.4 and 5 GHz networks.
iceman4357 said:
Why not forget both the 2.4 and 5G networks in your WiFi settings. Rename the 2.4 and 5G to have different names in the Google Wifi, then only connect to the 2.4 Ghz/enter the password. With separate names for the 2.4 and 5Ghz you should be able to isolate.
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What is the difference between 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz? I always connect to 5Ghz because the network speed is a lot faster, but that is the only difference that I've seen

5 GHz is faster but shorter range. 2.4 GHz is slower but further range.
Intelli69 said:
What is the difference between 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz? I always connect to 5Ghz because the network speed is a lot faster, but that is the only difference that I've seen
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EeZeEpEe said:
Oh okay. I'm thinking of getting a couple TP-link ones.
Yeah I have a Roomba and a smart switch which both require 2.4 GHz network too. But my router and repeater are able to do separate 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz networks. So they're on the 2.4 GHz while my Pixel 2 XL is on the 5 GHz and I can still control them from my phone.
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I've got tp link and I use an Asus tri band router (2.4, 5lo, 5hi) and they all work fine across channels with each other.

That's because your router works the way it should. Your phone is on the 5.0GHz but can see the TP-Link on 2.4GHz. See my attached specifications for the TP-Link dimmer. It's 2.4GHz.
People with issues have to manually switch to 2.4GHz.
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I've got tp link and I use an Asus tri band router (2.4, 5lo, 5hi) and they all work fine across channels with each other.
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