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Recommend a stock rom with these features?

Hi,
NOOB, apologies if the below is stupidly worded.
Messed around with Cyanogen 9 and 10 but not a fan of it.
Thinking of just flashing the original Samsung stock ROM but people told me there are ROM's out there that are a deviation of the stock ROM but have a few tweaks, not sure if this actually exists or not. (I'm a noob to rooting). I see in this forum dozens of "stock" ROM's, so not sure exactly where to find one that just has the below:
Original Camera app
Original Video player app
S-Voice
NO Rogers bloatware
No Samsung bloatware (besides S-Voice, which I don't consider bloatware)
I know these are Samsung / TouchWiz features so I am not sure if it's possible to find a ROM that has these.
Basically I was pretty happy with my GS3 before I rooted it. The only thing I hated was the carrier/samsung bloatware bogging down system resources. I'd rather keep it on (basically) the stock ROM for now if it means retaining the original TouchWiz video/camera/s-voice apps.
Any idea if this is possible?

Nunhuggers T2 is great and has what your looking for.
Next time don't post questions in development forum, use Q and A.
Edit... T2 Doesn't have s-voice. I thought the Google voice search was much better.
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sorry, where can I find the thread for nunhugger's ROM?

Sianspheric said:
Hi,
NOOB, apologies if the below is stupidly worded.
Messed around with Cyanogen 9 and 10 but not a fan of it.
Thinking of just flashing the original Samsung stock ROM but people told me there are ROM's out there that are a deviation of the stock ROM but have a few tweaks, not sure if this actually exists or not. (I'm a noob to rooting). I see in this forum dozens of "stock" ROM's, so not sure exactly where to find one that just has the below:
Original Camera app
Original Video player app
S-Voice
NO Rogers bloatware
No Samsung bloatware (besides S-Voice, which I don't consider bloatware)
I know these are Samsung / TouchWiz features so I am not sure if it's possible to find a ROM that has these.
Basically I was pretty happy with my GS3 before I rooted it. The only thing I hated was the carrier/samsung bloatware bogging down system resources. I'd rather keep it on (basically) the stock ROM for now if it means retaining the original TouchWiz video/camera/s-voice apps.
Any idea if this is possible?
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I'm liking Ariel right now
edit: you can pick and choose what Samsung apps you want too

thanks guys
keep the suggestions coming.

This does not belong in development. If you want Samsung features, use a Samsung based rom. You need to research this yourself. No one is here to spoon feed you.

LOL @ "No One is here to spoon feed you" riiiiiiiight.

You could literally take any stock based ROM here, and use Titanium Backup to remove bloatware and then reinstall S-voice if needed.

So basically just flash the stock ROM for my carrier, and then in Titanium I could remove the bloatware carrier/Samsung apps/.apks I don't want (but leave S-Voice), and it should run run stable?
SORRY FOR THE N00B QUESTIONS, haven't used Titanium yet. For some reason you guys in Developer seem to be more responsible to this then those in Q&A.
Thanks.

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[Q] Can I get a ROM that WORKS???

To anyone that knows of a ROM that is 100% functional INCLUDING S PEN!
The ROM I have now doesn't have a working radio so I can't even use my data plan to download anything (sometimes doesn't even wake back up when it goes to sleep). The home internet is constantly blinking in and out, making downloading large files tedious; so if you are positive you know a ROM that has everything functioning (as if it just shipped from the factory!) and de-bloated then please please, do tell!
I'd like this to be a one-shot download kind of thing rather than having to download a mess of things, once I get something that works again then I don't care how many ROMs you suggest.
PS: Are the Note II ROMs naturally huge??? I have seen some as high as 1GB

PorscheHusky said:
To anyone that knows of a ROM that is 100% functional INCLUDING S PEN!
The ROM I have now doesn't have a working radio so I can't even use my data plan to download anything (sometimes doesn't even wake back up when it goes to sleep). The home internet is constantly blinking in and out, making downloading large files tedious; so if you are positive you know a ROM that has everything functioning (as if it just shipped from the factory!) and de-bloated then please please, do tell!
I'd like this to be a one-shot download kind of thing rather than having to download a mess of things, once I get something that works again then I don't care how many ROMs you suggest.
PS: Are the Note II ROMs naturally huge??? I have seen some as high as 1GB
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Have you tried reading through the development section for comments as to what works and what doesn't for each ROM? There are loads that work. And yes, many are quite large.

Android Revolution by Mike1986 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925402) works flawlessly and is as you described. Near stock but completely debloated and optimized for better battery life and faster. Version 10.0 was just released yesterday with some updates.
If i ever need to use a Samsung ROM, i always use Android Revolution as i know it simply works.
Samsung ROMs are normally around 800 MB to 1 GB, completely normal.

apd said:
Have you tried reading through the development section for comments as to what works and what doesn't for each ROM? There are loads that work. And yes, many are quite large.
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The lot I have found actually didn't have a log at all, so I assumed everything worked, like SpaceX2 I searched the entire thread for reported issues and didn't find anything so I went ahead to get it then run into this mess I'll try to look harder next time (if my internet plays nice)
Moonbloom said:
Android Revolution by Mike1986 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925402) works flawlessly and is as you described. Near stock but completely debloated and optimized for better battery life and faster. Version 10.0 was just released yesterday with some updates.
If i ever need to use a Samsung ROM, i always use Android Revolution as i know it simply works.
Samsung ROMs are normally around 800 MB to 1 GB, completely normal.
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I'll give it a go then! and I just wanted to be sure they were supposed to be that large, the SII I had had ROMs around 300-500 avg so when I saw SpaceX2's 900-something and another at 1.4GB my eyes nearly popped out of my skull and jaw slapped a hole in the floor LOL
but just to be clear, the S-Pen functions are normal then? Reason I got this phone was to do my illustrations on the go (Sketchbook Pro and Photoshop stuff) and if I can't us it then it was a waste lol

PorscheHusky said:
The lot I have found actually didn't have a log at all, so I assumed everything worked, like SpaceX2 I searched the entire thread for reported issues and didn't find anything so I went ahead to get it then run into this mess I'll try to look harder next time (if my internet plays nice)
I'll give it a go then! and I just wanted to be sure they were supposed to be that large, the SII I had had ROMs around 300-500 avg so when I saw SpaceX2's 900-something and another at 1.4GB my eyes nearly popped out of my skull and jaw slapped a hole in the floor LOL
but just to be clear, the S-Pen functions are normal then? Reason I got this phone was to do my illustrations on the go (Sketchbook Pro and Photoshop stuff) and if I can't us it then it was a waste lol
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Yes, all S-Pen functions are in the ROM.

Moonbloom said:
Yes, all S-Pen functions are in the ROM.
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Alright! Thanks for that bit! Headed over to try downloading now!
One last thing, might you know of any download managers I could get? Chrome doesn't have one and when the internet blinks I have to start all over again

Why not stick to stock? Custom roms are nice if you are looking for certain features, but they often come at the expense of being less compatible with certain apps and for the note specifically, you lose apps like s-note.
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A number of reasons really...
EP2008 said:
Why not stick to stock? Custom roms are nice if you are looking for certain features, but they often come at the expense of being less compatible with certain apps and for the note specifically, you lose apps like s-note.
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A number of reasons, really.
~While stock is wicked fast and no doubt stable, too many apps run in the background. I did a memorydump once and at any given time (after its sat idle for about 2min) there are usually 40-50 or more apps running in the background.
~Want to be able to continue using Google Wallet (started using it on my Nexus 7 and instantly fell in love). This Isis crap that the carriers are forcing us to use seems like the works of a halfwitt jacked up on drugs and their rollout methods are awful.
~Apparently the stock ROM with all the bloat/branding sucks up the onboard memory like it's going out of style. I don't even use most (if any) the carrier junk but I can't delete them. Thats where de-bloated and slimmed-down-to-essentials ROMs come in for me
~Ability to fully customize how I want MY phone to look and react rather than be just another carbon copy with the rest of the crowd. You wouldn't believe how many people, that have gotten a good look at my old SII w/ SBean AOKP, oooh & ahh over some visual features I could do that they couldn't, especially with battery readouts rather than guessing what percentage you're at with that vague battery bar.
That's just scratching the surface but come-ooooon! This is XDA, what are the majority of us here for anyway?
The Revolutions ROM mentioned above sounds promising and the fellow said all the stock things worked, including the phone's signature ability, the Wacom digitizer and S Pen. Without that working, thats like selling me a factory fresh Porsche but minus all the bits that make it go

Moonbloom said:
Android Revolution by Mike1986 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925402) works flawlessly and is as you described. Near stock but completely debloated and optimized for better battery life and faster. Version 10.0 was just released yesterday with some updates.
If i ever need to use a Samsung ROM, i always use Android Revolution as i know it simply works.
Samsung ROMs are normally around 800 MB to 1 GB, completely normal.
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Is it normal that the installation keeps freezing around the bit about efs backups?

Man i stupid threads like this.
"Waaa waaa my FREE rom doesnt work boo hoo...."
First off if I was a dev and saw this thread id be like "fu then enjoy your stock rom bish"
Its one thing if a rom is bricking your phone cuz the dev did no tests bit seriosly , your title really is unfair.
You shoukd read a luttle more about custom roms as this is the nature of "custom roms".
Why dont you make your own rom??
Oh dont know how?
Dont have the time?
EXACTLY
the roms are free and the devs work for free, so dont bash them when things dont go the wsy you want.
/rant
Much respect to all devs who put out ANY ROM.
Now diaf.

Need Help
Hi.....all....i just got this amazing phone last 2 weeks, and this is really good phone. And i just root it too.
I wanna change the custom ROM with Omega ROM, and change the Kernel too.
My question in here is : I can flash the custom ROM ?? Or i must unroot first ? And sorry, i really newbie about that, flashing or wht.
Thanks for advice
NB : I feel my baterry drain faster with the new firmware of that (

freakboy13 said:
Man i stupid threads like this.
"Waaa waaa my FREE rom doesnt work boo hoo...."
First off if I was a dev and saw this thread id be like "fu then enjoy your stock rom bish"
Its one thing if a rom is bricking your phone cuz the dev did no tests bit seriosly , your title really is unfair.
You shoukd read a luttle more about custom roms as this is the nature of "custom roms".
Why dont you make your own rom??
Oh dont know how?
Dont have the time?
EXACTLY
the roms are free and the devs work for free, so dont bash them when things dont go the wsy you want.
/rant
Much respect to all devs who put out ANY ROM.
Now diaf.
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Wake up on the wrong side of the bed elsewhere, chum. Maybe if youve read my above comment to the other bloke of why I want what I do then you might get a clue.
Asking for something that actually works as intended is not that much to ask for.

PorscheHusky said:
Is it normal that the installation keeps freezing around the bit about efs backups?
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Your signature reads "Galaxy Note II (T889)" and AFAIK Revolution HD and this whole section really is about the GT-N7100. Could you please clarify this point?

PorscheHusky said:
A number of reasons, really.
~While stock is wicked fast and no doubt stable, too many apps run in the background. I did a memorydump once and at any given time (after its sat idle for about 2min) there are usually 40-50 or more apps running in the background.
~Want to be able to continue using Google Wallet (started using it on my Nexus 7 and instantly fell in love). This Isis crap that the carriers are forcing us to use seems like the works of a halfwitt jacked up on drugs and their rollout methods are awful.
~Apparently the stock ROM with all the bloat/branding sucks up the onboard memory like it's going out of style. I don't even use most (if any) the carrier junk but I can't delete them. Thats where de-bloated and slimmed-down-to-essentials ROMs come in for me
~Ability to fully customize how I want MY phone to look and react rather than be just another carbon copy with the rest of the crowd. You wouldn't believe how many people, that have gotten a good look at my old SII w/ SBean AOKP, oooh & ahh over some visual features I could do that they couldn't, especially with battery readouts rather than guessing what percentage you're at with that vague battery bar.
That's just scratching the surface but come-ooooon! This is XDA, what are the majority of us here for anyway?
The Revolutions ROM mentioned above sounds promising and the fellow said all the stock things worked, including the phone's signature ability, the Wacom digitizer and S Pen. Without that working, thats like selling me a factory fresh Porsche but minus all the bits that make it go
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I hear you. I was into custom ROM's for many devices, but I found the problems with incompatibilities to be too much of a hassle to use on "daily driver" devices - especially my phone, which I use for business.
Now, I use Titanium to freeze bloatware and system apps that I don't want running. I use the Xposed framework mod to get unlimited multiwindow apps on my Note2 as well as add other features like per-app settings (dpi, full screen, resolution, etc.). I use a Nova Launcher instead of touchwiz, and several other tweaks on my stock firmware.
I found this to be the best option for ME, because the stability on my phone is perfect, battery life is great and I know that all apps will work properly.
Good luck on your quest to find the best rom - you'll likely have to try a bunch before settling down
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Androssama said:
Your signature reads "Galaxy Note II (T889)" and AFAIK Revolution HD and this whole section really is about the GT-N7100. Could you please clarify this point?
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Forgive me if I am wrong but aren't they the same thing?

PorscheHusky said:
Forgive me if I am wrong but aren't they the same thing?
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They're not, the T-Mobile Note II has a dedicated forum at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1877
GSM Arena says : The device will have a model number SGH-T889 and will reportedly pack the same specs as the international Galaxy Note II (except for the LTE connectivity, of course). Feel free to check out our preview of the Note II for more details on the device.
The most common problem after crossflashing is losing signal. You have to flash a compatible ROM now, maybe even restore your efs partition.

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Androssama said:
They're not, the T-Mobile Note II has a dedicated forum at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1877
GSM Arena says : The device will have a model number SGH-T889 and will reportedly pack the same specs as the international Galaxy Note II (except for the LTE connectivity, of course). Feel free to check out our preview of the Note II for more details on the device.
The most common problem after crossflashing is losing signal. You have to flash a compatible ROM now, maybe even restore your efs partition.
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FFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffff!!!
Excuse me while I go sit in the corner of shame with this lovely cone shaped hat atop my noggin that reads 'jackass' on it >.<!
What you just said was both relieving and bothersome at the same time LOL. I'll give it a-go and THEN maybe I can finally get some sleep and rest easy knowing the thing should be working again!
I may just go back to Stock ROM for now and sit with it for a while until I dig deeper into Android; have been wanting to get away from Windows lately

EP2008 said:
I hear you. I was into custom ROM's for many devices, but I found the problems with incompatibilities to be too much of a hassle to use on "daily driver" devices - especially my phone, which I use for business.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I would rather not mess with a custom ROM and the attendant incompatibilities on a daily driver device.
Now, I use Titanium to freeze bloatware and system apps that I don't want running. .
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The version of Titanium that does not require root allows you to "freeze" bloatware? What exactly do you mean by that? In other words, what does "freeze" mean in this context specifically?
I use the Xposed framework mod to get unlimited multiwindow apps on my Note2 as well as add other features like per-app settings (dpi, full screen, resolution, etc.).
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The Xposed framework also doesn't require rooting the device? My Note2 just got updated (I'm with Rogers in Canada) with the multi-window feature and I would love to add a bunch of apps to this multi-window coolness. Can you please shed some more light on what I need to do here? Thanks
I use a Nova Launcher instead of touchwiz, and several other tweaks on my stock firmwareI found this to be the best option for ME, because the stability on my phone is perfect, battery life is great and I know that all apps will work properly.
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I love Nova Launcher. I use it as well. TIA

CayenneGTS said:
I'm in the same boat as you. I would rather not mess with a custom ROM and the attendant incompatibilities on a daily driver device.
The version of Titanium that does not require root allows you to "freeze" bloatware? What exactly do you mean by that? In other words, what does "freeze" mean in this context specifically?
The Xposed framework also doesn't require rooting the device? My Note2 just got updated (I'm with Rogers in Canada) with the multi-window feature and I would love to add a bunch of apps to this multi-window coolness. Can you please shed some more light on what I need to do here? Thanks
I love Nova Launcher. I use it as well. TIA
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Root is required of you want to get the most out of your device. If you want to "freeze" apps on an unrooted device, go to your application manager in your device settings, click on the system app you want to "freeze" and select disable. If you don't see the disable button, then click Uninstall updates first. Use this with caution as freezing or disabling important apps may cause problems.
Xposed requires root, but it doesn't mess up your system like some hardwire mods which replace system files can do.
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[Q] Minimum Rom

I have been away from the XDA forums for a while but have recently got back in here and have been reading about my Spring Note II. I have not been able to locate a Rom that i would consider a (lite or light Rom) with absolutely bare bones as far as the apps on it. I do not want anything extra other than what it take to run this phone. I have experience with rooting as i have rooted every one of my phones and i go through them like crazy. If there is not a Rom out there like this does anyone have a link or list of all the apps that can safely be remove. I have been going through trial and error but it takes so long to remove an app wait to make sure it stays stable then back up & repeat. I know this has probably been mentioned before so please hang tight with me as i do not post random questions i havent tried to find myself first
Have tried Whompasaurus 4.2 & MacksROM Allstar

not that I'm aware. Some stuff is pretty obvious.
I prefer to get rid of as much as I can because I use different app, and I want my storage space for other stuff.

lovekeiiy said:
not that I'm aware. Some stuff is pretty obvious.
I prefer to get rid of as much as I can because I use different app, and I want my storage space for other stuff.
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The obvious things I can get rid of easily. Its all the com.'s & different push services plus the apps with no icons just little Androids that im not sure of

Digiblur is debloated if you want Touchwiz. Slimrom is great if you want to go to Aosp.
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[Q] Tuns of newbie questions!

So for Christmas I got a nexus 7 32GB tab, now ive been browsing the site for a couple weeks now reading about rooting, roms and kernals.
I saw the thread in general about one click rooting ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381698 )
and have decided that is most likely the way ill go, how its shown in the first video.
Now for roms ive been thinking that paranoid android may be the best for me, as from what ive read and understood it doesn't have all those google apps the nexus comes with unless you install the google package? can anyone comfirm this? just want to make sure I didn't read it like a tard.
Now lets say that rom is a good one and I should be good to go, what kernals or kernals should I get?
if the kernel I download I don't like is it easy to switch them out for another or do I have to reset and reroot the tablet and reinstall the roms and kernel? same goes for the rom as well, are they easy to swtich for another? can you have more then one rom on a tablet?
and last of all so say I install paranoid, and decide on a kernel and it all goes well, and is looking good, how do I download apps? do I need the google apps to do this?
super new to this and any help would be much appreciated!

AngelicKnights said:
So for Christmas I got a nexus 7 32GB tab, now ive been browsing the site for a couple weeks now reading about rooting, roms and kernals.
I saw the thread in general about one click rooting ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381698 )
and have decided that is most likely the way ill go, how its shown in the first video.
Now for roms ive been thinking that paranoid android may be the best for me, as from what ive read and understood it doesn't have all those google apps the nexus comes with unless you install the google package? can anyone comfirm this? just want to make sure I didn't read it like a tard.
Now lets say that rom is a good one and I should be good to go, what kernals or kernals should I get?
if the kernel I download I don't like is it easy to switch them out for another or do I have to reset and reroot the tablet and reinstall the roms and kernel? same goes for the rom as well, are they easy to swtich for another? can you have more then one rom on a tablet?
and last of all so say I install paranoid, and decide on a kernel and it all goes well, and is looking good, how do I download apps? do I need the google apps to do this?
super new to this and any help would be much appreciated!
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A lot of good questions. Before you start flashing roms and/or kernels you should read as much of each specific thread as you can stand. You need to have an idea of what kind of problems if any users are experiencing, that way you can hopefully make an informed decision. I personally would never read just the first couple posts and start flashing. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely some good roms and kernels out there and there is nothing wrong with experimenting. And yes, some roms do require gapps. And you do need at least some of the google apps (gapps) to be able to use the Play Store. They will tell you if they are not included in that specific thread.
As far as kernels go you need to be careful. Read, read, read! If you start playing with overclocking and voltages you can easily create problems for yourself. Do you know what to do if you get stuck in a boot loop? Or start getting random reboots? Not trying to talk you out of doing anything, hell I use custom kernels myself. it's just that it's not that hard to end up with a really nice paperweight! Sometimes going from one kernel to another you will need to dirty flash your rom or flash the system image to get a clean start with a new kernel. Good luck!

Firstly, use
Since the Nexus 7 is pure stock already, if you have no reason for a custom ROM, you probably don't need it. Just use Closed Framework with Gravitybox module, you can get some customization. Also consider candy shop with zip themed, you can customize your navigation buttons and stuff.
As for kernels, use either elementalx or franco kernels. Those are probably the two most popular.
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very much appreciate the quick replies.
Not really trying to mess with voltages or cpu stuff or overclocking. Really just wanted to make it a bit more customizable. which is what I thought the paranoid android ROM would be used for.
Wouldn't mind perhaps better battery life, which is what kernals are used for as well from my understanding?
Ive literally read every forum ( nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, android forum as well ), the top forum stickies and also gone through the pages in the sub forums and such for search of questions I may have.
But from what im gathering I think I just need to delete(is that possible or is it just disabling apps?) and maybe download some more aps for customization like clocks and weather widgets(not sure if that's exactly what a widget is), instead of all this rooting and unrooting stuff.
like when I click the circle with 6 dots in it to show me all the apps on my tablet, I honestly don't want half of them even on my tab
Bascially what I just want is a minimalistic screen where I don't have tuns of icons everywhere as I wont use 3/4th of it such as gmail, keep, people, play newsstand, hangouts, and apps that the stock tablet comes with.
edit: also any way without unrooting to install and snes emulator or play pc or ps1 games? digging some super Mario or diablo clone hack and slashj

AngelicKnights said:
very much appreciate the quick replies.
Not really trying to mess with voltages or cpu stuff or overclocking. Really just wanted to make it a bit more customizable. which is what I thought the paranoid android ROM would be used for.
Wouldn't mind perhaps better battery life, which is what kernals are used for as well from my understanding?
Ive literally read every forum ( nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, android forum as well ), the top forum stickies and also gone through the pages in the sub forums and such for search of questions I may have.
But from what im gathering I think I just need to delete(is that possible or is it just disabling apps?) and maybe download some more aps for customization like clocks and weather widgets(not sure if that's exactly what a widget is), instead of all this rooting and unrooting stuff.
like when I click the circle with 6 dots in it to show me all the apps on my tablet, I honestly don't want half of them even on my tab
Bascially what I just want is a minimalistic screen where I don't have tuns of icons everywhere as I wont use 3/4th of it such as gmail, keep, people, play newsstand, hangouts, and apps that the stock tablet comes with.
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You can disable most everything, I have a lot of the google apps disabled that I have no plans on using and all of the apps you mention can be disabled. There are things you can do when rooted to help battery life but there are also things you can do without being rooted. Like turning off wifi always scanning, or always on while sleeping. Adjusting sync. Disabling apps. If rooted you can use Greenify to hibernate apps without disabling them. The paid version of Greenify allows you to hibernate system apps but you have to have Xposed Framework installed to get the paid version to work and Xposed only works with dalvik and not art. Lots of options! Sorry, I haven't used any emulators. Do a search of the whole q/a thread, you'll find something I'm sure.

To root or not to root

I have rooted and loaded custom ROMs on many of my phones.
I don't know why but for some reason I am bit hesitant on rooting my G3.
I see now there is a quick and easy script to root even the Lollipop 5.01 OTA 850 so I am tempted to do this.
My question is if I don't want to load a custom ROM will the debloating and removal of carrier IQ make a noticeable difference to performance or just give a warm cuddly feeling that these are now gone?
I know there is tweakbox but it appears that besides some nice customizing that can be done there is not much on he performance side of things?
I am finding 5.01 a little laggy and it would be nice to get the phone running smoothly.
Thanks.

samsat said:
I have rooted and loaded custom ROMs on many of my phones.
I don't know why but for some reason I am bit hesitant on rooting my G3.
I see now there is a quick and easy script to root even the Lollipop 5.01 OTA 850 so I am tempted to do this.
My question is if I don't want to load a custom ROM will the debloating and removal of carrier IQ make a noticeable difference to performance or just give a warm cuddly feeling that these are now gone?
I know there is tweakbox but it appears that besides some nice customizing that can be done there is not much on he performance side of things?
I am finding 5.01 a little laggy and it would be nice to get the phone running smoothly.
Thanks.
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Hi @samsat,
Sharing my thoughts:
1. As you have experience in rooting many of your phones, is "loading of custom ROMs" your only reason for rooting? I guess that would be the best starting point/question that you will need to ask (and answer). In my case, I go with the principle of "if you don't need it, then don't do it".
2. I want to point out though that "need" and "want" are two different things ("need" is a "must have" and "want" is a "nice-to-have"). So in your case, did you root your previous phones as a necessity? I have friends who never rooted their phones and are happy with it...some users are either not "tinkerers" (if there is such a term) or never use apps that require root.
3. Some users, on the other hand, need to root (i.e. whether they like it or not, they have to do it) because some apps do require root.
I can't comment on "carrier IQ" as I am not from the US, sorry.

Thanks for the reply.
I have no plans just yet to load a different ROM, main problem is that there appears to a camera problem with other ROMS that has not been resolved.
My main reason would be rooting in order to do things that would improve performance using the stock ROM.
I also believe in not doing this if it's not needed.

Not sure if this will help, I have rooted for a few reasons
1. Dpi to 530
2. Adaway / hosts access
3. Faster GPS
4. Titanium backup
5. Debloat
6. Greenify
Still on bumped stock with no intention of custom rom - it's liquidy enough. Customised my s3 to within an inch of its life, and couldn't be bothered.
Happy with the g3
Sent from my LG-D855 using Tapatalk

Those are things that having root access will allow you to do.
My question is did you notice a difference in performance (not just faster GPS) before and after you did this?
Oh and by the way I love the username! Even got it with my soutpiel Afrikaans!

+1 on Titanium Backup and Greenify

Will rooting affect the laser camera or only the installing of ROMS lose laser capability?

nismo929 said:
Will rooting affect the laser camera or only the installing of ROMS lose laser capability?
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Installing of Non-Stock ROMs loses the performance in Camera Functionality

Thanks for the answer. But I was referring to root more. Sorry..perhaps not worded correctly. Will root lose the laser?

samsat said:
Thanks for the reply.
I have no plans just yet to load a different ROM, main problem is that there appears to a camera problem with other ROMS that has not been resolved.
My main reason would be rooting in order to do things that would improve performance using the stock ROM.
I also believe in not doing this if it's not needed.
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It's not needed then. There isn't a mass amount running or affecting general performance to get rid of.
Question is, why would you not want to do it for all the other reasons posted above. IMO, it's so easy to do, you'd be daft not to.

Thanks Ryarni.
That's the reply I was looking for. At the moment, my only reason to root would be as a path to improve performance which can be a bit laggy at times.
The other reasons above are so that one can run other apps. that require root.
I have no need for those apps. right now but it's good to know root is there should I need them.
I have had a bunch of G3's go bad on me requiring replacement under warranty. I want to give the latest replacement some time to settle in before I start fiddling!

nismo929 said:
Thanks for the answer. But I was referring to root more. Sorry..perhaps not worded correctly. Will root lose the laser?
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Not if you root using an 'LG STOCK' ROM.