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I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
You can use "one click root",then get a program called "sdx app remover".
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thank you very much
jonny4 said:
I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
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SDX app remover will work, but another option is to root, then download titanium backup from the market. I use the free version and it's great. Using this app, you can make backups of you apps and app data (1 at a time, in a batch, or even set overnight schedules). This comes in handy whether flashing roms, if a program gets corrupted, or even if you download an update to a program that doesn't work and want to restore the prior one. Also, if you go to the backup/restore tab, you can see all apps on the phone. If you press on the app, it brings up options, one of which is uninstall. If rooted, you can uninstall anything (just be careful).
Welcome to the epic.
I had the same thought with my heroc long ago. But the stock rom minus bloat still is garbage compared to even the worst custom rom. With this epic was never a question...custom rom 30 mins after I got it.
You can always Odin back to stock...but you never will
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I guess I am worried about messing something up, I only started putting custome rom's on My touch Diamond after I knew I was looking for a new phone in the last 3 months. Is there just a bsaic Android 2.2 rom for the Epic, so I could start from scratch with my apps?
I would recommend Bonsai, but they seem to be busy screwing themselves over. Let's just say its a great rom, but they are making some pretty dumb moves in the PR category.
BTW, if there was
literal crap on this device from Sprint
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then you should have contacted the health department.
so i am noticing some of these roms will root for me. I am looking at the bonsai thread, is it an all in one package. i am new to android rooting. i know on winmo i had to first unlock then run a ruu from my desktop.
You can use odin too load pre rooted roms. Which will give u cwm. Then u can change roms at your own discretion with out a pc. Look at the ratings and read the posts before u load a rom. Id also suggest bonsai 4.0 seems to the the most stable. And I have tried all of them.
Unless you do not care about pic msging and gps in which case definately check out cm7 aplha 3. Its androi 2.3 gingerbread .
one more question, if i don't like this how do i go back to stock rom, with winmo i just reflash old one.
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BTW, if there was literal crap on this device from sprint then you should have contacted the health department.
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Thank you for this. My keyboard thanks you for the mountain dew bath.
I have decided I actually like the Samsung ui but I can;t stand how many apps there are, I have 2 freakin Facebook apps because I can't remove the original and the newer one doesn't update the old one. So best thing to do is root and try and remove the stock apps I guess.
I already said this and no one answered. if something goes wrong, how do I go back to stock sprint rom? with winmo i just re run the rom package on my pc.
Just use ODIN. It's always right at the top of the Dev section.
thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
I was in your shoes a month or so ago.
When I finally had enough time and bravery to mess around with the phone, I rooted and proceeded to brick my phone.
This bricking taught me a valuable lesson and its that the epic is very hard to permantly screw up. I also came from a winmo device before being hogtied and violated from palm and sprints marketin team but wounds healed and feelings of anger and sadness faded away when the epic decended from sprints hallowed halls. (Gg sprint marketing team on another successful campaign...)
Hope isn't lost and I would advise you to become used to your phone with the OTA updates (it should be at ec05) because unless you know what gains you are receiving from flashing a new rom, then it would be a pointless endevor.
Lurk more in the dev forums and play with your phone. If you have a question then ask and hopefully you will find a rom to fit your needs.
Sent from my Epic4g using the internet.
I was rushed and wanted to further clarify a little on what I posted above.
The epic you have now OP should be on 2.2.1 EC05 Froyo if it's not that way now. This is the current update pushed from sprint and I personally had no problems with it. The amount of bloat you see vs the bloat you can't (CIQ...and others *too lazy to google or search*) is a factor to consider while deciding if rooting and customs roms are for you.
I know you mentioned Touchwiz and like you, I enjoy it. Rooting and flashing a rom can remove this but many of the current roms offer a version with TW either as default or baked in. This shouldn't be of concern because you will not notice much difference between stock TW and that provided in a rom other than how "snappy" it is.
I also recommended lurking in the dev forums, and I meant that. I'll look at the first page of a thread such as the ACS rom thread in dev. After seeing what's offered, go to the last page and work backwards, noting any issues or problems people are having. Do understand that people are more likely to post a problem than give praise so do not let those post steer you away, but just use caution and take notice of what's recommended to fix it.
Although this may seem long winded, I feel that a majority of people similer to myself will either conclude that rooting is hard and not mess with it, or become lost in the ever changing acronyms, root utilities, and overall direction to successfully root their device.
What makes matters even worse is that some roms can be so complicated to install and troubleshoot that the information you need to continue isn't already clear enough to you to correctly ask a question or troublesoot. You will see this reflected in post where phones are reurned to the store after it fail to boot.
So to restate what I think would be your best option (and others who find themselves looking to root and flash custom roms), you should lurk and study the dev forums along with general. Make sure current version of froyo is on your device from the OTA update (EC05 is current and you can check by Settings/About Phone/ and scrolling down towards the bottom. Become knowledgeable about what your phone can do, then if you decide that a new rom will make for a richer experience, then follow guides handed down from the roms themselves to help make sure you successfully root and flash your phone.
It can be a headache but it's worth the pain when you finally finish.
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thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
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jonny4,
I,too, was in your shoes. I registered on this forum just to reply to your post.
I've had my Epic 4G for a little over a month and I've already tried several different kernels and ROMs. I've found that a good resource for learning how to flash your Epic is YouTube. There's a guy on there with the username "randyshear." He had an Epic 4G and made a ton of how-to vids about installing ClockworkMod Recovery, making Nandroid backups, and flashing various ROMs. Before my Epic 4G, I had never had an Android phone, so I was VERY new to the whole thing. Fortunately for us, the phone has been out for a while and many options exist. I recommend checking out randyshear's vids. He posts download links to all the ROMs he tries out. I've been using the Genocide 0.3a kernel that undervolts and overclocks the CPU to 1.2 GHz and I've flashed ViperROM Apocalypse 4.0.4 with EXT4. The phone has never been faster!
Make sure you get ClockworkMod on the phone and make a backup. Also, just to be safe, back up your microSD too. Trust me, once you get the hang of it, it's actually really fun to try out different ROMs to see how your phone responds. Good luck!
EDIT: I recently flashed my Epic with SyndicateROM Frozen 1.1.0 (EC05 Froyo) with the Twilight Zone kernel and I was completely blown away! FASTEST ROM/KERNEL COMBO I have seen yet!
here is basically what i hate. i just killed a bunch of apps and 3, Clock, amazon mp3, and qik video, that I have never used or setup are already running again. It is absolutely stupid that a program that has never been used or setup can run itself, reminds of me of spyware or malware, and because Samsung locks out removing of said apps it is annoying. I would be happy with the basic rom if all these extra apps weren't running or installed. I may try what the first person suggested. I know WinMo had a bunch of crap apps installed in the Sprint rom but at least those did not run on their own. I do appreciate everyones help, really and I guess if I plan on rooting I should probably do it within my return policy.
To anyone that knows of a ROM that is 100% functional INCLUDING S PEN!
The ROM I have now doesn't have a working radio so I can't even use my data plan to download anything (sometimes doesn't even wake back up when it goes to sleep). The home internet is constantly blinking in and out, making downloading large files tedious; so if you are positive you know a ROM that has everything functioning (as if it just shipped from the factory!) and de-bloated then please please, do tell!
I'd like this to be a one-shot download kind of thing rather than having to download a mess of things, once I get something that works again then I don't care how many ROMs you suggest.
PS: Are the Note II ROMs naturally huge??? I have seen some as high as 1GB
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To anyone that knows of a ROM that is 100% functional INCLUDING S PEN!
The ROM I have now doesn't have a working radio so I can't even use my data plan to download anything (sometimes doesn't even wake back up when it goes to sleep). The home internet is constantly blinking in and out, making downloading large files tedious; so if you are positive you know a ROM that has everything functioning (as if it just shipped from the factory!) and de-bloated then please please, do tell!
I'd like this to be a one-shot download kind of thing rather than having to download a mess of things, once I get something that works again then I don't care how many ROMs you suggest.
PS: Are the Note II ROMs naturally huge??? I have seen some as high as 1GB
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Have you tried reading through the development section for comments as to what works and what doesn't for each ROM? There are loads that work. And yes, many are quite large.
Android Revolution by Mike1986 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925402) works flawlessly and is as you described. Near stock but completely debloated and optimized for better battery life and faster. Version 10.0 was just released yesterday with some updates.
If i ever need to use a Samsung ROM, i always use Android Revolution as i know it simply works.
Samsung ROMs are normally around 800 MB to 1 GB, completely normal.
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Have you tried reading through the development section for comments as to what works and what doesn't for each ROM? There are loads that work. And yes, many are quite large.
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The lot I have found actually didn't have a log at all, so I assumed everything worked, like SpaceX2 I searched the entire thread for reported issues and didn't find anything so I went ahead to get it then run into this mess I'll try to look harder next time (if my internet plays nice)
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Android Revolution by Mike1986 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925402) works flawlessly and is as you described. Near stock but completely debloated and optimized for better battery life and faster. Version 10.0 was just released yesterday with some updates.
If i ever need to use a Samsung ROM, i always use Android Revolution as i know it simply works.
Samsung ROMs are normally around 800 MB to 1 GB, completely normal.
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I'll give it a go then! and I just wanted to be sure they were supposed to be that large, the SII I had had ROMs around 300-500 avg so when I saw SpaceX2's 900-something and another at 1.4GB my eyes nearly popped out of my skull and jaw slapped a hole in the floor LOL
but just to be clear, the S-Pen functions are normal then? Reason I got this phone was to do my illustrations on the go (Sketchbook Pro and Photoshop stuff) and if I can't us it then it was a waste lol
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The lot I have found actually didn't have a log at all, so I assumed everything worked, like SpaceX2 I searched the entire thread for reported issues and didn't find anything so I went ahead to get it then run into this mess I'll try to look harder next time (if my internet plays nice)
I'll give it a go then! and I just wanted to be sure they were supposed to be that large, the SII I had had ROMs around 300-500 avg so when I saw SpaceX2's 900-something and another at 1.4GB my eyes nearly popped out of my skull and jaw slapped a hole in the floor LOL
but just to be clear, the S-Pen functions are normal then? Reason I got this phone was to do my illustrations on the go (Sketchbook Pro and Photoshop stuff) and if I can't us it then it was a waste lol
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Yes, all S-Pen functions are in the ROM.
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Yes, all S-Pen functions are in the ROM.
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Alright! Thanks for that bit! Headed over to try downloading now!
One last thing, might you know of any download managers I could get? Chrome doesn't have one and when the internet blinks I have to start all over again
Why not stick to stock? Custom roms are nice if you are looking for certain features, but they often come at the expense of being less compatible with certain apps and for the note specifically, you lose apps like s-note.
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A number of reasons really...
EP2008 said:
Why not stick to stock? Custom roms are nice if you are looking for certain features, but they often come at the expense of being less compatible with certain apps and for the note specifically, you lose apps like s-note.
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A number of reasons, really.
~While stock is wicked fast and no doubt stable, too many apps run in the background. I did a memorydump once and at any given time (after its sat idle for about 2min) there are usually 40-50 or more apps running in the background.
~Want to be able to continue using Google Wallet (started using it on my Nexus 7 and instantly fell in love). This Isis crap that the carriers are forcing us to use seems like the works of a halfwitt jacked up on drugs and their rollout methods are awful.
~Apparently the stock ROM with all the bloat/branding sucks up the onboard memory like it's going out of style. I don't even use most (if any) the carrier junk but I can't delete them. Thats where de-bloated and slimmed-down-to-essentials ROMs come in for me
~Ability to fully customize how I want MY phone to look and react rather than be just another carbon copy with the rest of the crowd. You wouldn't believe how many people, that have gotten a good look at my old SII w/ SBean AOKP, oooh & ahh over some visual features I could do that they couldn't, especially with battery readouts rather than guessing what percentage you're at with that vague battery bar.
That's just scratching the surface but come-ooooon! This is XDA, what are the majority of us here for anyway?
The Revolutions ROM mentioned above sounds promising and the fellow said all the stock things worked, including the phone's signature ability, the Wacom digitizer and S Pen. Without that working, thats like selling me a factory fresh Porsche but minus all the bits that make it go
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Android Revolution by Mike1986 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925402) works flawlessly and is as you described. Near stock but completely debloated and optimized for better battery life and faster. Version 10.0 was just released yesterday with some updates.
If i ever need to use a Samsung ROM, i always use Android Revolution as i know it simply works.
Samsung ROMs are normally around 800 MB to 1 GB, completely normal.
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Is it normal that the installation keeps freezing around the bit about efs backups?
Man i stupid threads like this.
"Waaa waaa my FREE rom doesnt work boo hoo...."
First off if I was a dev and saw this thread id be like "fu then enjoy your stock rom bish"
Its one thing if a rom is bricking your phone cuz the dev did no tests bit seriosly , your title really is unfair.
You shoukd read a luttle more about custom roms as this is the nature of "custom roms".
Why dont you make your own rom??
Oh dont know how?
Dont have the time?
EXACTLY
the roms are free and the devs work for free, so dont bash them when things dont go the wsy you want.
/rant
Much respect to all devs who put out ANY ROM.
Now diaf.
Need Help
Hi.....all....i just got this amazing phone last 2 weeks, and this is really good phone. And i just root it too.
I wanna change the custom ROM with Omega ROM, and change the Kernel too.
My question in here is : I can flash the custom ROM ?? Or i must unroot first ? And sorry, i really newbie about that, flashing or wht.
Thanks for advice
NB : I feel my baterry drain faster with the new firmware of that (
freakboy13 said:
Man i stupid threads like this.
"Waaa waaa my FREE rom doesnt work boo hoo...."
First off if I was a dev and saw this thread id be like "fu then enjoy your stock rom bish"
Its one thing if a rom is bricking your phone cuz the dev did no tests bit seriosly , your title really is unfair.
You shoukd read a luttle more about custom roms as this is the nature of "custom roms".
Why dont you make your own rom??
Oh dont know how?
Dont have the time?
EXACTLY
the roms are free and the devs work for free, so dont bash them when things dont go the wsy you want.
/rant
Much respect to all devs who put out ANY ROM.
Now diaf.
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Wake up on the wrong side of the bed elsewhere, chum. Maybe if youve read my above comment to the other bloke of why I want what I do then you might get a clue.
Asking for something that actually works as intended is not that much to ask for.
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Is it normal that the installation keeps freezing around the bit about efs backups?
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Your signature reads "Galaxy Note II (T889)" and AFAIK Revolution HD and this whole section really is about the GT-N7100. Could you please clarify this point?
PorscheHusky said:
A number of reasons, really.
~While stock is wicked fast and no doubt stable, too many apps run in the background. I did a memorydump once and at any given time (after its sat idle for about 2min) there are usually 40-50 or more apps running in the background.
~Want to be able to continue using Google Wallet (started using it on my Nexus 7 and instantly fell in love). This Isis crap that the carriers are forcing us to use seems like the works of a halfwitt jacked up on drugs and their rollout methods are awful.
~Apparently the stock ROM with all the bloat/branding sucks up the onboard memory like it's going out of style. I don't even use most (if any) the carrier junk but I can't delete them. Thats where de-bloated and slimmed-down-to-essentials ROMs come in for me
~Ability to fully customize how I want MY phone to look and react rather than be just another carbon copy with the rest of the crowd. You wouldn't believe how many people, that have gotten a good look at my old SII w/ SBean AOKP, oooh & ahh over some visual features I could do that they couldn't, especially with battery readouts rather than guessing what percentage you're at with that vague battery bar.
That's just scratching the surface but come-ooooon! This is XDA, what are the majority of us here for anyway?
The Revolutions ROM mentioned above sounds promising and the fellow said all the stock things worked, including the phone's signature ability, the Wacom digitizer and S Pen. Without that working, thats like selling me a factory fresh Porsche but minus all the bits that make it go
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I hear you. I was into custom ROM's for many devices, but I found the problems with incompatibilities to be too much of a hassle to use on "daily driver" devices - especially my phone, which I use for business.
Now, I use Titanium to freeze bloatware and system apps that I don't want running. I use the Xposed framework mod to get unlimited multiwindow apps on my Note2 as well as add other features like per-app settings (dpi, full screen, resolution, etc.). I use a Nova Launcher instead of touchwiz, and several other tweaks on my stock firmware.
I found this to be the best option for ME, because the stability on my phone is perfect, battery life is great and I know that all apps will work properly.
Good luck on your quest to find the best rom - you'll likely have to try a bunch before settling down
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Your signature reads "Galaxy Note II (T889)" and AFAIK Revolution HD and this whole section really is about the GT-N7100. Could you please clarify this point?
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Forgive me if I am wrong but aren't they the same thing?
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Forgive me if I am wrong but aren't they the same thing?
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They're not, the T-Mobile Note II has a dedicated forum at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1877
GSM Arena says : The device will have a model number SGH-T889 and will reportedly pack the same specs as the international Galaxy Note II (except for the LTE connectivity, of course). Feel free to check out our preview of the Note II for more details on the device.
The most common problem after crossflashing is losing signal. You have to flash a compatible ROM now, maybe even restore your efs partition.
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Androssama said:
They're not, the T-Mobile Note II has a dedicated forum at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1877
GSM Arena says : The device will have a model number SGH-T889 and will reportedly pack the same specs as the international Galaxy Note II (except for the LTE connectivity, of course). Feel free to check out our preview of the Note II for more details on the device.
The most common problem after crossflashing is losing signal. You have to flash a compatible ROM now, maybe even restore your efs partition.
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FFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffff!!!
Excuse me while I go sit in the corner of shame with this lovely cone shaped hat atop my noggin that reads 'jackass' on it >.<!
What you just said was both relieving and bothersome at the same time LOL. I'll give it a-go and THEN maybe I can finally get some sleep and rest easy knowing the thing should be working again!
I may just go back to Stock ROM for now and sit with it for a while until I dig deeper into Android; have been wanting to get away from Windows lately
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I hear you. I was into custom ROM's for many devices, but I found the problems with incompatibilities to be too much of a hassle to use on "daily driver" devices - especially my phone, which I use for business.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I would rather not mess with a custom ROM and the attendant incompatibilities on a daily driver device.
Now, I use Titanium to freeze bloatware and system apps that I don't want running. .
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The version of Titanium that does not require root allows you to "freeze" bloatware? What exactly do you mean by that? In other words, what does "freeze" mean in this context specifically?
I use the Xposed framework mod to get unlimited multiwindow apps on my Note2 as well as add other features like per-app settings (dpi, full screen, resolution, etc.).
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The Xposed framework also doesn't require rooting the device? My Note2 just got updated (I'm with Rogers in Canada) with the multi-window feature and I would love to add a bunch of apps to this multi-window coolness. Can you please shed some more light on what I need to do here? Thanks
I use a Nova Launcher instead of touchwiz, and several other tweaks on my stock firmwareI found this to be the best option for ME, because the stability on my phone is perfect, battery life is great and I know that all apps will work properly.
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I love Nova Launcher. I use it as well. TIA
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I'm in the same boat as you. I would rather not mess with a custom ROM and the attendant incompatibilities on a daily driver device.
The version of Titanium that does not require root allows you to "freeze" bloatware? What exactly do you mean by that? In other words, what does "freeze" mean in this context specifically?
The Xposed framework also doesn't require rooting the device? My Note2 just got updated (I'm with Rogers in Canada) with the multi-window feature and I would love to add a bunch of apps to this multi-window coolness. Can you please shed some more light on what I need to do here? Thanks
I love Nova Launcher. I use it as well. TIA
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Root is required of you want to get the most out of your device. If you want to "freeze" apps on an unrooted device, go to your application manager in your device settings, click on the system app you want to "freeze" and select disable. If you don't see the disable button, then click Uninstall updates first. Use this with caution as freezing or disabling important apps may cause problems.
Xposed requires root, but it doesn't mess up your system like some hardwire mods which replace system files can do.
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Hello all,
First post, although I've been a fan of XDA for several years and have never signed up for an account as I have typically googled to find all my answers. I signed up yesterday to ask a perplexing question to me today. I've installed custom ROM's on my last couple smart phones and loved them for all the reasons I know many people on this site do. Now I got a GalaxyNote 2, I rooted it and installed CM10 - thrilled I must say...kudos to Skip for the great GN2 toolkit!
Then I found out that the multi-view and S-Pen from my research don't work on AOSP ROM's. What then would be the benefit of a ROM on GN2? Or have I not done enough homework to find the missing links? I did find this thread for mult-view but I'm not comfortable proceeding with it. I understand Papyrus works for S-pen.
To me with a phablet this big. These 2 solutions would keep me from staying rooted and return to stock. Yet, I truly love the speed and simplicity of CM10. Without all the Vendor bloatware - but that just gives me an overgrown smartphone... what am I missing?
Thankful for any/all your insights and suggestions.
Jason
I would try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2170142
It's asethically based off AOSP but has all of the great TW features. It's, hands down, my favorite ROM out at the moment.
JRL70 said:
Hello all,
First post, although I've been a fan of XDA for several years and have never signed up for an account as I have typically googled to find all my answers. I signed up yesterday to ask a perplexing question to me today. I've installed custom ROM's on my last couple smart phones and loved them for all the reasons I know many people on this site do. Now I got a GalaxyNote 2, I rooted it and installed CM10 - thrilled I must say...kudos to Skip for the great GN2 toolkit!
Then I found out that the multi-view and S-Pen from my research don't work on AOSP ROM's. What then would be the benefit of a ROM on GN2? Or have I not done enough homework to find the missing links? I did find this thread for mult-view but I'm not comfortable proceeding with it. I understand Papyrus works for S-pen.
To me with a phablet this big. These 2 solutions would keep me from staying rooted and return to stock. Yet, I truly love the speed and simplicity of CM10. Without all the Vendor bloatware - but that just gives me an overgrown smartphone... what am I missing?
Thankful for any/all your insights and suggestions.
Jason
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JRL70 said:
Hello all,
First post, although I've been a fan of XDA for several years and have never signed up for an account as I have typically googled to find all my answers. I signed up yesterday to ask a perplexing question to me today. I've installed custom ROM's on my last couple smart phones and loved them for all the reasons I know many people on this site do. Now I got a GalaxyNote 2, I rooted it and installed CM10 - thrilled I must say...kudos to Skip for the great GN2 toolkit!
Then I found out that the multi-view and S-Pen from my research don't work on AOSP ROM's. What then would be the benefit of a ROM on GN2? Or have I not done enough homework to find the missing links? I did find this thread for mult-view but I'm not comfortable proceeding with it. I understand Papyrus works for S-pen.
To me with a phablet this big. These 2 solutions would keep me from staying rooted and return to stock. Yet, I truly love the speed and simplicity of CM10. Without all the Vendor bloatware - but that just gives me an overgrown smartphone... what am I missing?
Thankful for any/all your insights and suggestions.
Jason
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Thank you!! I feel the same way, I love this phone's functions and don't want to lose any but I have been using cyanogenmod since the g1 days. Guess I will be waiting until they get a fully functional version going
I would try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2170142
It's asethically based off AOSP but has all of the great TW features. It's, hands down, my favorite ROM out at the moment.
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Can you update apps? There was a comment that one app couldn't be updated or it would cause issue??
Thanks for the quick posts... I found this... http://droidviews.com/2013/best-custom-roms-for-sprint-galaxy-note-2-sph-l900/
MIUI seems to be a decent ROM and has S-Pen and multi-view built in... Now I have a couple options!
I feel a bit better...
I'm downloading that AOSP Touch Wiz ROM right now to give it a go. Could be a better solution to my stock rooted MA7 with Apex Launcher Jelly Bean theme.
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JRL70 said:
... I rooted it and installed CM10 ... I found out that the multi-view and S-Pen from my research don't work on AOSP ROM's. What then would be the benefit of a ROM on GN2? Or have I not done enough homework ...These 2 solutions would keep me from staying rooted and return to stock. ... what am I missing? ...
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First, yes, you didn't do enough research. No biggie.
You have to remember, CM is still in beta and has a few things that do not work yet. If memory serves me well, they're listed in the first post for CM.
The multiwindow aspect of the GN2/GS3 is built into the framework for touchwiz and android. So, it's not likely something we'll see very soon in CM. I think they may be waiting for Google to implement into Android.
I don't know about the Spen. That may be more specific to the phone more than touchwiz, and that may be just something the devs are waiting for Samsung to release details on, or some dev to more reverse engineer.
Lastly, you don't have to unroot to be stock. A lot of people, such as myself, are rooted, but run stock roms. I run deoxidized versions to I can use the mutliwindow and have the 4-1 reboot. I like having root for some important apps, for me, require it, such as Titanium Bakcup, WiFi tether, and Busybox. It's not that hard to get rid of bloat when you're rooted. Just make a nandroid incase you delete something you shouldn't have.
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First, yes, you didn't do enough research. No biggie.
You have to remember, CM is still in beta and has a few things that do not work yet. If memory serves me well, they're listed in the first post for CM.
The multiwindow aspect of the GN2/GS3 is built into the framework for touchwiz and android. So, it's not likely something we'll see very soon in CM. I think they may be waiting for Google to implement into Android.
I don't know about the Spen. That may be more specific to the phone more than touchwiz, and that may be just something the devs are waiting for Samsung to release details on, or some dev to more reverse engineer.
Lastly, you don't have to unroot to be stock. A lot of people, such as myself, are rooted, but run stock roms. I run deoxidized versions to I can use the mutliwindow and have the 4-1 reboot. I like having root for some important apps, for me, require it, such as Titanium Bakcup, WiFi tether, and Busybox. It's not that hard to get rid of bloat when you're rooted. Just make a nandroid incase you delete something you shouldn't have.
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Thanks for your insight. I appreciate it. Also in my research, I read information where Android told Cyanogen to stop incorporating Multi-view and S-pen into their ROM's so we will have to see if that happens and the features ever come to light. CM's always in Beta... yes their Beta for GN2 is new - I get it and will have to see what happens. in the interim.. I'm looking for help from the members to find a working rom. Perhaps you can suggest the rom that you are using... sounds interesting and I'd much rather flash something that the dev's on here have cleaned up than try to do it myself... and yes, I do support with donations
Personally, I'm just running a deoxidized stock rom with Perseus kernel. The rom did have the bloat. I just deleted stuff I didn't want with Titanium backup, after making sure to back it up; it's a CYA move. I have goofed and deleted something that cause Google Play not to function. You kind of figure out what you can't and can delete without issue.
Right now, the stock rom does what I need and most of what I want. I haven't found anything I couldn't do because of stock. It would be nice to have hybrid functionality, but it's not a deal breaker. I personally haven't seen anything on AOSP that is a must have. Being rooted, must have.
I do like CM and thought it was a lot better than the stock rom when I was still using my Evo4G. I'm just waiting for CM to have everything working, other than the Spen and mutliwindow, before trying it out.
I would love to have something like Boot Manager so I can have mutliple ROMs loaded. When I had it on my Evo, I usually had three--stock, CM, and some experimental alpha or early beta. I haven't really seen anyone do a bare minimum stock rom. Those are nice, than you can just add the other feature you like instead of trying to get rid of what you don't.
SPen and multi window are samsungs intellectual property, ie they are proprietary code that an after market firmware can't incorporate with violating copyrights. Google won't let CM use the multiview feature, yet, as it is being incorporated into AOSP so they will have it in a future release. Googles already pushed the MV commits upstream its just not activated yet. There are other options if you're saavy enough to merge code and compile a rom for yourself such as cornerstone by onskreen, their code has gone fully opensource now so you can clone their git into yours and merge it with an AOSP rom of your choice then do the necessary modifications to the code and compile it.
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So far I've only run into two apps that are unable to update or having problems after an update. If you update youtube, you won't be able to sign in, which sucks. The calendar app won't update, also. I've tried deleting it and installing it from the market, but that still doesn't work out. Other than those two, everything else is fine. Dev did a great job
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So far I've only run into two apps that are unable to update or having problems after an update. If you update youtube, you won't be able to sign in, which sucks. The calendar app won't update, also. I've tried deleting it and installing it from the market, but that still doesn't work out. Other than those two, everything else is fine. Dev did a great job
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I'm running the AOSPNoWiz 1.4 right now and you also can't use your Samsung account without getting FC for Scloud.sync. I disabled my Samsung account and it went away.
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I have been away from the XDA forums for a while but have recently got back in here and have been reading about my Spring Note II. I have not been able to locate a Rom that i would consider a (lite or light Rom) with absolutely bare bones as far as the apps on it. I do not want anything extra other than what it take to run this phone. I have experience with rooting as i have rooted every one of my phones and i go through them like crazy. If there is not a Rom out there like this does anyone have a link or list of all the apps that can safely be remove. I have been going through trial and error but it takes so long to remove an app wait to make sure it stays stable then back up & repeat. I know this has probably been mentioned before so please hang tight with me as i do not post random questions i havent tried to find myself first
Have tried Whompasaurus 4.2 & MacksROM Allstar
not that I'm aware. Some stuff is pretty obvious.
I prefer to get rid of as much as I can because I use different app, and I want my storage space for other stuff.
lovekeiiy said:
not that I'm aware. Some stuff is pretty obvious.
I prefer to get rid of as much as I can because I use different app, and I want my storage space for other stuff.
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The obvious things I can get rid of easily. Its all the com.'s & different push services plus the apps with no icons just little Androids that im not sure of
Digiblur is debloated if you want Touchwiz. Slimrom is great if you want to go to Aosp.
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Is installing CM, on my new tab s 8.4 a bad idea? I know it's say device is still in development for it but I'm getting frustrated with touchwiz automatically installing useless apps like NYTIMES and crap like that. And I feel like it's eating my ram for no reason whatsoever. If not CM is there anything else available or do I have to wait a month/few months I can do so? I saw that CM works well with tab pro 8.4 but the only difference between the two is the hardware correct?
Would flashing it in anyway fix this? I'm new to android tablet devices and any android devices, so I have no clue how to do it. If it's not too much trouble maybe somebody could show me a guide?
I'm new to this forum and if I've broken any rules I apologise. I hope I can get some help & advice, thanks in advance. I posted this in another thread but I didn't want to ninja it.
Perhaps, installing BLCKASOP? Since I read from the forum here that it makes the device consume less ram and such, but I also have no clue how to do that, I apologise once again.
Thanks
As a new user I would recommend against flashing roms heavily in beta stages. Too many bugs. There are a number of good 8.4 roms available in Development. You can uninstall bloat yourself using System App Safe Remover from the playstore but you must be rooted to use this. I also recommend using Nova Launcher.
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As a new user I would recommend against flashing roms heavily in beta stages. Too many bugs. There are a number of good 8.4 roms available in Development. You can uninstall bloat yourself using System App Safe Remover from the playstore but you must be rooted to use this. I also recommend using Nova Launcher.
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I thought I replied to you but apparently I didn't.. Are there any easy guides available on how to root this specific device? I know what Nova Launcher is, but what is exactly used for?
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I thought I replied to you but apparently I didn't.. Are there any easy guides available on how to root this specific device? I know what Nova Launcher is, but what is exactly used for?
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You honestly need to do some research before messing with your tablet. Everything I could tell you here has already been said online 1000 times before. Until you have a lot more knowledge, best to remain stock.
Google Nova Launcher for a start. The Development section has a couple threads on rooting.