Hello guy. Sorry im new. I just got this note 2 a coupke of weeks ago. Just want to know if is that good to have a rooted device. I always had jailbreaked iphones. So i really dont know what to do. For what I can see the android is very good as it is. I would like to know the benefits of root a device and if you can point to the best ways and options to do this thanks for help.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
daproject said:
Hello guy. Sorry im new. I just got this note 2 a coupke of weeks ago. Just want to know if is that good to have a rooted device. I always had jailbreaked iphones. So i really dont know what to do. For what I can see the android is very good as it is. I would like to know the benefits of root a device and if you can point to the best ways and options to do this thanks for help.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If ur happy with ur device now... dont root. If u want more then what yur getting...root it. Root for myself is a must so i can use titanium backup and more.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
The phone is pretty good out of the box.
However rooting will give you much more control on the phone. So it really depends on what you want to do with your phone.
Example rooting enables you to remove bloatware from your, disable auto start ups , backup data with titanium backup etc.
But since you are new. I suggest you play around with your phone a bit longer for the stock experience and do more research on the advantages of rooting before you decide to root and delete/disable important system files or fiddle something that screw up your phone causing you to re Flash the whole rom
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
Don't root it if you don't need it right now. I have rooted my previous phones for apps like Titanium Backup but I didn't need any of these apps on Note 2, so I didn't see a point in rooting. I suggest you the same. There is no big plus when you root. You can remove carrier apps, or install apps that messes around with system files but if you don't need these things, you don't have to root. You'll root it when you need it.
I'm ignoring the exynos exploit when I say these things btw.
I would say yes
It depends on you. If you like it out of the box then don't.
For me it is always - YES. Why?
-Titanium Backup (backup)
-Mobile odin (flashing)
-Adaway (hmm)
-all music tweaks
-Joystick Center (all games played with pad)
-sd-booster (that's clear)
-undelete (restoring deleted files)
-WifiKill (find out yourself )
And much more.
Rooting just to install apps and little modifications to your phone to show off to your galaxy note 2 friends that aren't rooted is enough reason but there's a lot more behind rooting!
Sent From An Incognegro Galaxy Note 2
I'd always do it, mainly because I'm paranoid and cannot live without regular device backups.
And there is always a bunch of apps I don't want on my phone, but cannot get rid of easily. However, with the amount of space on the Note 2 that's hardly a reason anymore - it definitely was one when I still had the HTC Desire.
DON'T root it unless you need custom ROM.
AND
I don't think you need custom ROM because it is toooo early looking for one now..
Trust me on this..
BR.
just rooted my phone! now the search for custom firmware begins! join me dude! hehe
on a side note guys that are rooted with stock firmware can we install an app that removes those pesky ads from apps? or we need to have custom roms first? thanks!
KpopAMD said:
just rooted my phone! now the search for custom firmware begins! join me dude! hehe
on a side note guys that are rooted with stock firmware can we install an app that removes those pesky ads from apps? or we need to have custom roms first? thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im on full stock rooted rom. I find it no need to flash a custom rom cos stock is pretty damm stable and fast for me with very good battery life.
I'm using root cos of titanium backup, disabling ads, removing useless start ups and deleting bloatware.
Yes you can download adaway from play store
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
unholygid said:
Im on full stock rooted rom. I find it no need to flash a custom rom cos stock is pretty damm stable and fast for me with very good battery life.
I'm using root cos of titanium backup, disabling ads, removing useless start ups and deleting bloatware.
Yes you can download adaway from play store
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for the reply sir, not to take away from the thread starter but what can we use to remove bloatwares on rooted but stock roms? aside from paying programs like titanium pro? is there any other way? i wanna be able to remove bloatwares without using custom roms thanks!
Whats the deal with the titanium backup. You cant make backups ? Like with the iphone, in the computer? Or you are talking beyond a simple backup
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
Thanks for the reply guys. Im still not sure to root or not. I probably will wait a bit longer. I really enjoy customising the device and i can do it without rooting for the moment.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
You can't back uo app data without a root and titanium backup. A very annoying thing about unrooted phones. Why can't they just let us back stufd up?
With Exynos Abuse, I don't see any reason not to root. It's super simple to root and unroot. Also, if you disable the exploit with Exynos Abuse and are going to unroot, make sure to enable (uncheck the box) the exploit first. If you do not, you will no longer be able to use the app to root, until you use a different root method. (I'll give you one guess on how I know that... :banghead: )
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
Without root you cant delete all this unnecessary samsung app-**** and free more than 100mb space from your ROM memory.
Rooting takes my device to a whole new level.
-Titanium backups
-Adblocking
-Spen gesture control
-Xposed framework for unlimited multiwindows, per app dpi settings, various ui tweaks.
-Etc.etc... so many valuable tools work only with rooting.
Backups are my main concern, but the other root apps make this device much more enjoyable. :thumbup:
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 using Tapatalk 2
I say root. I've rooted many devices and had no issues. Best advice for a noob would be to read over the root process for your device. After you have read the process once go over it again, and again, and again. Best to know the in's and out's before you attempt the process. Not to make the whole process sound scary but knowledge is power. If your on the fence about the whoel root process I say root but leave stock recovery. This way when it comes to returning phone for warranty if needed you simple unroot and off it goes. Worst case if you want to go all the way the great peeps of XDA always have a return to stock guide. Hope this helps
ROOT ur going to do it sooner or later
Definitely go for Root. All those above suggested programs are a must, especially Adblock and i will add Lucky patcher, which removes google adds from free programs. :angel:
Related
The title says it all
with the iPhone we jailbreak it in order to install cr**ked Apps and install some other Apps that cant work without the necessary privileges (ex tethering), what about Android devices?
Thanks
Because we can and it's my phone and I don't want to be told what I can do with it, but the primary reason for me to Root and S-OFF is so i can install CM7
Rooting means that you can flash whatever custom rom you want from proposed android gingerbread (before its officially released) to chinese MIUI rom (similarities to iphone). whichever takes your fancy....as there are alot to choose from.....you can also overclock your device to improve speed and underclock to improve battery....you also get total freedom to file manage your phone and make necessary backups if anything were to go wrong....this is just some of the endless possibilities of rooting...
Hope this helps
Rooting gives you full access to your phone.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Why would you even ask such a thing?
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
Skwuhrl said:
Why would you even ask such a thing?
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hahah.....lol
I rooted mine to get rid of all the rubbish bloatware that comes with being an Orange UK customer. They suck for bloatware, takes over everything! In your face Orange!
also, rooting gives us the possibility to overclock/underclock!
it is necessary to install custom rom.i advise to you.
we root in the pursuit of perfection
we root because we need more control over our phone. we only want what we need and remove what we don't need. stock ROM is good, but its not enough.
Hi all my question is i have a rooted xperia play R800i on android 2.3.3 its been rooted using the zergrush method the bootloader is still locked but i have removed alot of bloatware and disabled software update. The phone runs very well but i want to sell it due to having bought another phone.
So my questions are, how can i remove all my personal data like email adresses passwords etc without unrooting?
Can i reset it to factory defaults in android or will this brick it in its current state? (as alot of the factory rubbish has been removed)
Is my only option to restore all the bloatware with titanium backup and then unroot (which seems a shame as the phone runs perfectly as is)
I would really like to just remove my personal info and sell it in its current state. Its fast reliable the battery lasts well and i really dont want to mess around with it to much now, the game pad is scratched though :-(
Help needed from those who know there stuff.
Thanks for reading.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA App
Just use flashtool and flash it. It will wipe root and reset it to factory everything. Make sure you check you box to wipe user data though.
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk
Is that easy to do? Ive never used flashtool before is it just a case of installing flashtool to my pc connecting it to my play and hitting a button? anyone got a link to a tutorial? :-/
Also is this my only option? Ive avoided this flashing firmware the whole time ive had the phone and would rather not get involved in it now.
Thanks for the speedy reply though
Cheers
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA App
I'd recommend using the thread marked in red in my signature. It gives, among other things, a comprehensive list of firmwares to flash with Flashtool and a quick flashing guide.
Unroot with sugarRush search on google.pc required though.
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
Again thanks for the replies, sugarRush sounds like an option to avoid learning how to reflash my device. Ok another question for you all...
I have a complete titanium backup of my phone prior to removing any bloatware. If i restored the phone using the backup and then unroot using sugarRush do u think it would then be safe to use the reset to factory default option in android to clear my phone and make it good to sell?...
Im sure flashing the phone probably would be best but not knowing what im doing i dont feel that confident doing it.
Cheers
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA App
b4d5h0t said:
Again thanks for the replies, sugarRush sounds like an option to avoid learning how to reflash my device. Ok another question for you all...
I have a complete titanium backup of my phone prior to removing any bloatware. If i restored the phone using the backup and then unroot using sugarRush do u think it would then be safe to use the reset to factory default option in android to clear my phone and make it good to sell?...
Im sure flashing the phone probably would be best but not knowing what im doing i dont feel that confident doing it.
Cheers
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would be safe but flashing is a lot better imo.
How can he flash with flashtool his boot is locked
Sent from my VS910 4G using Tapatalk
(LOL I forgot to change my build.prop back)
Its better if you dont sell the phone and enjoy life
fma965 said:
How can he flash with flashtool his boot is locked
Sent from my VS910 4G using Tapatalk
(LOL I forgot to change my build.prop back)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flashtool doesn't need unlocked bootloaders.
I wanna sell the phone to get some cash so i can enjoy life ;-)
Rooting my xperia play did make it run slightly better, snappier and better battery life (once bloatware was removed). But at the cost of updating android becoming a pain and now ive got this agro now i want to sell it.
Fellow noobs be warned ;-)
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA App
Listen, b4d5h0t, seriously. Go with the Flashtool FTF flash. If -I- can do it, anyone can. Takes only a few minutes and makes it totally stock.
b4d5h0t said:
Hi all my question is i have a rooted xperia play R800i on android 2.3.3 its been rooted using the zergrush method the bootloader is still locked but i have removed alot of bloatware and disabled software update. The phone runs very well but i want to sell it due to having bought another phone.
So my questions are, how can i remove all my personal data like email adresses passwords etc without unrooting?
Can i reset it to factory defaults in android or will this brick it in its current state? (as alot of the factory rubbish has been removed)
Is my only option to restore all the bloatware with titanium backup and then unroot (which seems a shame as the phone runs perfectly as is)
I would really like to just remove my personal info and sell it in its current state. Its fast reliable the battery lasts well and i really dont want to mess around with it to much now, the game pad is scratched though :-(
Help needed from those who know there stuff.
Thanks for reading.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The safest is just to do a factory reset, if you don't want to go over the hassle or flashing and other methods of wiping your data.I've done factory resets while my phone was rooted,so it should be fine.
So I've come to notice that I can't even change a widget background to transparent without rooting (right?) so I want to root my phone. I reflashed my GN to have yakju which wiped all the data and it was a pain to get everything back as it was before. Was able to save my messages, which I'm very thankful for as it took ages to get them out of my old Nokia (series 40) to my GN. Since I've downloaded apps from "third party providers" that usually cost money but were on a special sale (GetJar) and I'd also lose these apps.
It seems that there are a lot of ways to backup data if you have root access, but if you don't your out of luck. Shame on me for not rooting the minute I got the phone, but I believed when people told me that Android was open (BAZINGA). So before I lose ~20 bucks worth of apps I want to be sure there really is no way for me to save them somewhere somehow.
Could someone also point me to a topic of sorts where there are some facts listed about rooting? I know it's somewhere here, but I haven't found it (to be frank this question is probably also in here somewhere, but couldn't find it either). I guess I can't have a rooted phone with the default ROM? Right? So if I root I won't get updates from Google?
As you can see I'm an Android/XDA nooblet.
For data back up after rooting Titanium Backup is a must have. I bought the pro version.
From my understanding you will still get OTA updates from Google if the finger print = google/yakju/maguro:4.0.2/ICL53.... for example.
If the fingerpring contains samsung anywhere in there then your upade will come from sammy not google
I have TB installed, but as said I'm not rooted yet so it's useless. My device is currently marked as Google. So what I have to do is just choose a ROM that has that fingerprint? Okay.
start here mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
Rooting will NOT wipe your data or apps. However, if you re-locked your bootloader, then you are out of luck, as unlocking the bootloader causes a full wipe. You should always leave your bootloader unlocked -- it saves a lot of hassle... like what you are now experiencing.
There is no good way to backup without root.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
efrant said:
Rooting will NOT wipe your data or apps. However, if you re-locked your bootloader, then you are out of luck, as unlocking the bootloader causes a full wipe. You should always leave your bootloader unlocked -- it saves a lot of hassle... like what you are now experiencing.
There is no good way to backup without root.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you positive? That would be awesome!
Another noob question, what's the difference between rooting and unlocking the bootloader? Is the latter for installing things like ClockWorkMod Recovery?
Neo3D said:
Are you positive? That would be awesome!
Another noob question, what's the difference between rooting and unlocking the bootloader? Is the latter for installing things like ClockWorkMod Recovery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooting simply gives you 'root' access, which is the Linux equivalent of administrator on Windows. Unlocking the bootloader lets you flash packages signed by sources other than official, or unsigned as well.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Neo3D said:
Are you positive? That would be awesome!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're talking about rooting not wiping your phone, then yes. However, unlocking will wipe your phone, thus the recommendation to do it before you've d/led or configured anything. I unlocked right after I did the initial out-of-box setup, had to go through again after the unlock wiped the phone, and then rooted it yesterday. I used this method to root (there's a similar rundown in the GN LTE forum) and none of my apps or tweaks had been removed or changed. But you should always make backups just in case, which the first link helps you with.
Yeah. So the answer is there is no way to save your your data. Luckily a lot of the stuff is synced with Google. Your messages you can save with SMS backup. I unlocked, rooted and went ahead and flashed a new ROM (hopefully that is the right terminology: you flash ROMs, right?). In between the new ROM and rooting I backed up with Titanium Backup.
This one let's you sync with Facebook which is awesome. Now if only FB would be added as an IM service as well. It's probably the only instant messaging service in use around here; kind of a bummer it isn't included. Does anyone know if someone is intending to add this functionality in a custom ROM etc? (sorry, just feels wrong to strat a new topic for this question.)
I have my music widget now with a transparent background.
You won't lose the paid apps even if you wipe/unistall them. They will appear as purchased for you in the android market always. You just need to reinstall them.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
My backup pro
App manager on es file explorer makes back ups of .apk files, pretty sure you don't need root, but I could be mistaken, its a free app so its not like you have anything to lose. If it does work, after backing up your apps you can then move the files to your pc with a usb cable, or transfer the files to a cloud storage like dropbox for extra security.
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium
Jaytex24 said:
App manager on es file explorer makes back ups of .apk files, pretty sure you don't need root, but I could be mistaken, its a free app so its not like you have anything to lose. If it does work, after backing up your apps you can then move the files to your pc with a usb cable, or transfer the files to a cloud storage like dropbox for extra security.
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Needs root
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
AdrianE46 said:
You won't lose the paid apps even if you wipe/unistall them. They will appear as purchased for you in the android market always. You just need to reinstall them.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think that only applies to apps purchased/downloaded through Android market.
I can't remember but i read that with ics, using adb without unlocking or rooting you can back up your data. I will try and find the link, try the dev forum.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
hubono said:
I can't remember but i read that with ics, using adb without unlocking or rooting you can back up your data. I will try and find the link, try the dev forum.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, not without root.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
JX3 said:
Yeah. So the answer is there is no way to save your your data. Luckily a lot of the stuff is synced with Google.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, that isn't entirely true. You can still back-up what you can see on the Nexus when you connect it to your computer.
mfdemicco said:
Actually, that isn't entirely true. You can still back-up what you can see on the Nexus when you connect it to your computer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is true, I was going to say to always backup your "sd card" by copying it over to your computer when locking/unlocking as it will be wiped for whatever reason.
efrant said:
Nope, not without root.
are you sure, i haven't started fooling around with mine yet, decided to stay stock for a while but here it says otherwise
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402347
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No windows platform support thou
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
Rooter or not rooter
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Rooted is better if you know how to use a rooted phone. If he has no idea than he may just mess his phone up.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
if he doesnt want to root.. then let him be, he'll just be missing out.
I rooted to get the latest firmware [in canada it goes through samsung womp-womp ] and to get some extra customization out of my phone. It can give a phone the extra features you might feel are missing.
I always root my androids except my nexus's I rarely root them and as of now haven't my gnex
zephiK said:
if he doesnt want to root.. then let him be, he'll just be missing out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This! If he sees the pros + cons then decides he doesn't want it, then he shouldn't. You're a bad friend if you force him to do something he's not comfortable with to his phone.
AndreaCristiano said:
I always root my androids except my nexus's I rarely root them and as of now haven't my gnex
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same. Loving my GNex bone stock.
lazcoreaedu said:
Hey guys I'm trying to convince my buddy that root is the way to go, I myself have my phone rooted and wouldn't go back to stock for any reasons, I've told him why he should go with root but he just wants some more opinions, so please can you give us your 2 cent on what's better rooted or not rooted?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Regardless of whether he ultimately wants to root or not - make sure that even if it's remotely on the radar that he unlocks the BOOTLOADER as soon as he gets the phone.
Unlocking the bootloader wipes the ENTIRE phone (SD card partition and all) so it's something to do before anything else.
With the ability to subsequently make backups, rooting can easily come later.
It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.
Valynor said:
It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was going to say the same.
If he doesn't want/know then he SHOULDN'T cause he could end up with a bricked phone.
There's absolutely no reason to try to convince your friend, you're doing a disservice.
Murphy's law says he'll end up bricking it.
Unless you enjoy modding and willing to take the risk, let them use it stock - it's far more stable anyway.
Valynor said:
It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My thoughts exactly!
If your friend doesn't want it, he didn't need it. Eot.
And since you seem confused and mixing terms.... You can still be on stock while rooted.
You can even run a custom firmware without being rooted/having root.
Rooted merely means having local admin rights on the OS you are currently running. Custom firmware or not us entirely unrelated.
On most Samsung phones you don't even need to root to load custom ROMs, because they have open bootloaders. They're is no real relation between these terms which you are mixing.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
You can root the factory image so he'll still be stock with root. It'd best to root in case he wants future access for whatever, for example titanium backup would let him backup all his data, needs root. There are a milkion reasons to need root for very basic things.
Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
RogerPodacter said:
You can root the factory image so he'll still be stock with root. It'd best to root in case he wants future access for whatever, for example titanium backup would let him backup all his data, needs root. There are a milkion reasons to need root for very basic things.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But if the guy doesn't want to use any of those things, there's no need to root it in the first place. If he doesn't see the value in it right now theres no need to force him into it. Rooting because you think he'll want it later in the future makes no sense.
ChongoDroid said:
Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What a stupid suggestion.
ChongoDroid said:
Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this was my thought too!
At least let him figure out how to do it himself. If he figures it out. It might be for him. Let him do it via fast boot commands. Not one click.
I remember fist time rooting. I only had to press "root" in an app, and I ended up messing my sgs i9000 up completely. I had to learn everything the hard way. The right way. You should never do anything to your phone, unless you know how to get back to where you were.
every entry tells you either to flash something or is only for some special mods..... what if your device is not rooted
greatgrandking said:
every entry tells you either to flash something or is only for some special mods..... what if your device is not rooted
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No root means no custom roms no flashing no root apps no decent backup apps no mods no anything basically. Sorry to put it bluntly. .
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda premium
XDA = root
my S pen did this.
By and large the vast majority of mods require your phone to be rooted. This is xda, the forum for power users. It's just how things are here I'm afraid. There are mods which don't require it but they are a small minority.
Why not do some reading and then root? It's fairly safe so long as you backup your efs and note your stock rom version first. As long as you do these things you can always go back. Few do though, once you have root it's hard to go back.
-- Sent from the mighty Note 2 --
If you don't want to root device then Play store might be more helpful.