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I have a few questions...what does s-off mean? What exactly is root and does it remove my current 2.3.3 gb? Can my phone be rooted? What does it mean exactly to get a different rom...? Is their specific roms for my phone it can I use any? Can I save my current Rom and settings? I'm a newer member and can't find anything in the crowded search results.
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Voilenteraser said:
I have a few questions...what does s-off mean? What exactly is root and does it remove my current 2.3.3 gb? Can my phone be rooted? What does it mean exactly to get a different rom...? Is their specific roms for my phone it can I use any? Can I save my current Rom and settings? I'm a newer member and can't find anything in the crowded search results.
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S-ON is a Security feature that a lot of the Newer phones come with to Prevent the user from Rooting their device!
To have Full Root Capabilities you will have to use whatever methods available for your phone to get your Bootloader S-OFF!
Having Root is basically Gaining Total Control of your phone and certain features you Probably Wouldn't have otherwise!
And having Root Would Not Remove your current Firmware!
To get a Different Rom means to Almost turn your phone into a Different phone. Android Development is Constant on XDA meaning a New feature your phone Doesn't come with Stock, may be available through Flashing a Custom Rom!
Yes you can Save your Current Firmware through what's called a Nandroid Backup!
Every phone has its Own Roms, if you Search the Wiki Section on a Desktop,or Laptop you'll find a bunch of phones listed and Probably a Better Understanding of what can be Accomplished with a Rooted phone!
I Hope this Helps...

Very helpful. Thanks.
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Why root???

I just wanna know something. I'm into rooting phones. I had the galaxy s 4g and I rooted the hell out of that phone. Now I have the galaxy nexus and this things a ****in beast just the way it is, so why should I root this phone? Someone please convince me!
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brooklyn718941 said:
I just wanna know something. I'm into rooting phones. I had the galaxy s 4g and I rooted the hell out of that phone. Now I have the galaxy nexus and this things a ****in beast just the way it is, so why should I root this phone? Someone please convince me!
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I've received this question a lot from users across the globe and wrote an educational application, All About Root, posted in the Android Market for free with a section dedicated to this question.
Specifically for the Galaxy Nexus, I actually have not yet rooted this device yet, for the same reasons you've already given.
I do plan on rooting soon, probably within the next few days. At any point in time, if you want to start doing serious tweaking, more than likely you'll need root access.
The most common reason I've seen so far is, Android 4.0.3 was released in AOSP but we either have 4.0.1 or 4.0.2 loaded on our devices. Some users want the latest and in order to load 4.0.3 they have to at least unlock the device, not necessarily root.
Not sure if you're using the GSM or CDMA version of the device but in the future the OTAs might not be released at the same time to keep up with the latest AOSP version.
Hope that helps!

Adfree
Market Enabler
Titanium Backup
Rom Manager

brooklyn718941 said:
I just wanna know something. I'm into rooting phones. I had the galaxy s 4g and I rooted the hell out of that phone.
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How do you "root the hell out of" a phone? It's either rooted, or it's not
Now I have the galaxy nexus and this things a ****in beast just the way it is, so why should I root this phone? Someone please convince me!
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Why do you need convincing? Some apps need root. If you need to do something that requires root, then root the device.
Unlocking the bootloader is probably the real question... with that done, you can install custom ROMs and custom recovery, or root the stock ROM. Unlocking wipes the device though so it's probably better to do it sooner than later, even if you don't want to do any of those things yet.

phazerorg said:
How do you "root the hell out of" a phone? It's either rooted, or it's not
Why do you need convincing? Some apps need root. If you need to do something that requires root, then root the device.
Unlocking the bootloader is probably the real question... with that done, you can install custom ROMs and custom recovery, or root the stock ROM. Unlocking wipes the device though so it's probably better to do it sooner than later, even if you don't want to do any of those things yet.
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I tweaked the hell out of that phone!!. Is that better for you phazerorg???
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I was looking through Roms and I have another question. Why install a custom rom if it ****s up your phones wifi signal and network strength? And video and the browser has issues. How stupid can you be this is a great phone as is no need to root or install roms.
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brooklyn718941 said:
I was looking through Roms and I have another question. Why install a custom rom if it ****s up your phones wifi signal and network strength? And video and the browser has issues. How stupid can you be this is a great phone as is no need to root or install roms.
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I personally wouldn't install a ROM if it affected my wifi or signal in a negative way. Or if I didn't know that and it did, I would uninstall it.
It definitely is a great phone as-is, but it's a bit ignorant to call people stupid just because you don't see a need to root yours or install a custom ROM. Custom ROMs offer features not present in stock ROMs. If the stock ROM has all that you need, there's no need to replace it. On the other hand, some custom ROMs have features I like that stock doesn't, so to get those features I install the custom ROM.
I had CyanogenMod on my Nexus One (and still do). It has things like OpenVPN, notification power widget, trackball wake, and a lot of other tweaks that I found useful.

You need root for apps like wifi kill and wifi tether and overclock, rom manager/nandroid backup. If you ain't gonna use em then don't root, but certainly don't call people names for doing so. Getting the latest version of the OS is not the reason to root. If anything, on the Nexus devices it slows this process.

[Q] Installing CM7 & unroot

I'm currently attempting to procure a mt3gs on ebay so I can install CM7 and see how it performs possibly to root/install on my current phone.
With this in mind, I have only a vague understanding of the root/flash procedure but here's my question.
After installing CM, can I "unroot" on the CM image and run fine? I'd like to have the CM rom, but I would like the security of not having the phone "rooted".
If I'm off base and misunderstanding, please fill me in.
--D

In order to run or maintain a custom ROM on your phone, it needs to remain rooted. Pretty simple really.
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aaldiar said:
In order to run or maintain a custom ROM on your phone, it needs to remain rooted. Pretty simple really.
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Thanks for the info on that. But with regard to being "rooted" what does that mean for the application security? if an application requests su can it do that without my express permission or is it just granted?
I guess what I'm concerned about (and this is due to lack of understanding of root) is that if I install application X that is legitimate, can application Y which may be, shall we say, questionable, gain access to the file system owned by application X?
If there is a FAQ on this I apologize and would greatly appreciate any link pointing to such.

Google is your friend. With that out of the way, the SU apps will ask you if an app is allowed permissions or not. Many apps require root for various reasons depending on what you plan on doing with the phone. If you are concerned about an apps permissions look them over before downloading. I find that the basic user will most likely only use the root aspect to simply gain access to custom roms. Though with root you can download apps that block ads on your phone and remove unwanted apps as well. There is a lot more root does but those would be basic functions root access can do.
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Why do people root?

I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?

unity04 said:
I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
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We root, because we must... It doesn't make the phone slower. It does the opposite (With the right kernel, that is )
Rooting ONLY means, that you have the right, to accss the ROM (Read-only memory) where the system files are saved...
Which means, yes. You can have root access, on a stock-ROM phone
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unity04 said:
I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
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Rooting just gives you more control over your phone, the ability to easily freeze/delete system apps, flash alternate kernels, etc... You can run your stock ROM whilst rooted, it won't slow you down.
Rooting also opens the door to being able to flash (i.e. install) alternate, custom ROMs among other things.
A basic rooted stock ROM is a good place to start out, and learn your way around things before you decide, or not, to start flashing custom kernels, ROMs, etc... OR you can happily cruise along on a fully stock phone.
Just a quick summary; there's lots more specific info available on this site, and the intarwebz to give you more detail if needed.

I'm fairly new, so hopefully I get this right. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
My guess is that you're coming from iPhone if you're asking if it will slow it down since jailbreaking tended to do that. It won't slow it down unless you install apps and mods that run in the background and stuff.
All rooting is, is allowing programs to run as the root user (I *think* I'm right here). This means that they can access parts of the system that are unavailable to be modified on unrooted ROMs. This means you can get things that tweak system level functionality. It's very similar to jailbreaking an iPhone except apps in the Play Store aren't prohibited from having root functionality baked in.
Yes you can root the stock ROM.
Hope that answers it for you, and I hope I got it right. It's tough trying to figure some of this stuff out. Nothing out there really explains why things are done, but only HOW they're done. Bit of a nuisance trying to get into this in that regard.

myrdog said:
I'm fairly new, so hopefully I get this right. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
My guess is that you're coming from iPhone if you're asking if it will slow it down since jailbreaking tended to do that. It won't slow it down unless you install apps and mods that run in the background and stuff.
All rooting is, is allowing programs to run as the root user (I *think* I'm right here). This means that they can access parts of the system that are unavailable to be modified on unrooted ROMs. This means you can get things that tweak system level functionality. It's very similar to jailbreaking an iPhone except apps in the Play Store aren't prohibited from having root functionality baked in.
Yes you can root the stock ROM.
Hope that answers it for you, and I hope I got it right. It's tough trying to figure some of this stuff out. Nothing out there really explains why things are done, but only HOW they're done. Bit of a nuisance trying to get into this in that regard.
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You just said, what I said ((and the other bloke, after me) xD
Yes, you answered it. But in a way, that no n00b would understand, unless he wrote it himself (You) lol

There are many reasons to root, my favorites are that I can access the root or the phone, meaning I can replace the rooms, kernels to my liking. I can overclock or underclock the phone. One more than I like to do it use ad blocker so I don't need to deal with the stupid ads that are in free apps
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We root because we like to have good phones .
And the benefits like custom colors, kernels, ROMs, and all that is nice.
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
GummyNex (9.0)
Air Kernel (3.45)
OC 1000/200 (Lionheart)
Live OC (100 -Noop)
v6 Supercharged

To get the most out of my phone. Especially in the g1 days, you pretty much had to root because of the phones limitations
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You root to gain admin access to your phone. You'd never use a computer without admin access, same on a phone. You can tweak and change anything you can imagine with root access.
And no it doesn't make it slower, actually can make it faster.

Root access doesn't do anything in itself. It just gives you administrator access to all of the system files.
Once you have that access, you can start tweaking.
Root is only required for deep-level back-up programs, some file explorers, and rom tweakers such as Rom Manager.
Day to day stuff, Android is pretty open to anything.
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Rooting allows you to release the full potential of your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21328733
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Its not just system access, its a way of life!

Root or not to root

Hello guy. Sorry im new. I just got this note 2 a coupke of weeks ago. Just want to know if is that good to have a rooted device. I always had jailbreaked iphones. So i really dont know what to do. For what I can see the android is very good as it is. I would like to know the benefits of root a device and if you can point to the best ways and options to do this thanks for help.
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daproject said:
Hello guy. Sorry im new. I just got this note 2 a coupke of weeks ago. Just want to know if is that good to have a rooted device. I always had jailbreaked iphones. So i really dont know what to do. For what I can see the android is very good as it is. I would like to know the benefits of root a device and if you can point to the best ways and options to do this thanks for help.
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If ur happy with ur device now... dont root. If u want more then what yur getting...root it. Root for myself is a must so i can use titanium backup and more.
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The phone is pretty good out of the box.
However rooting will give you much more control on the phone. So it really depends on what you want to do with your phone.
Example rooting enables you to remove bloatware from your, disable auto start ups , backup data with titanium backup etc.
But since you are new. I suggest you play around with your phone a bit longer for the stock experience and do more research on the advantages of rooting before you decide to root and delete/disable important system files or fiddle something that screw up your phone causing you to re Flash the whole rom
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Don't root it if you don't need it right now. I have rooted my previous phones for apps like Titanium Backup but I didn't need any of these apps on Note 2, so I didn't see a point in rooting. I suggest you the same. There is no big plus when you root. You can remove carrier apps, or install apps that messes around with system files but if you don't need these things, you don't have to root. You'll root it when you need it.
I'm ignoring the exynos exploit when I say these things btw.

I would say yes
It depends on you. If you like it out of the box then don't.
For me it is always - YES. Why?
-Titanium Backup (backup)
-Mobile odin (flashing)
-Adaway (hmm)
-all music tweaks
-Joystick Center (all games played with pad)
-sd-booster (that's clear)
-undelete (restoring deleted files)
-WifiKill (find out yourself )
And much more.

Rooting just to install apps and little modifications to your phone to show off to your galaxy note 2 friends that aren't rooted is enough reason but there's a lot more behind rooting!
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I'd always do it, mainly because I'm paranoid and cannot live without regular device backups.
And there is always a bunch of apps I don't want on my phone, but cannot get rid of easily. However, with the amount of space on the Note 2 that's hardly a reason anymore - it definitely was one when I still had the HTC Desire.

DON'T root it unless you need custom ROM.
AND
I don't think you need custom ROM because it is toooo early looking for one now..
Trust me on this..
BR.

just rooted my phone! now the search for custom firmware begins! join me dude! hehe
on a side note guys that are rooted with stock firmware can we install an app that removes those pesky ads from apps? or we need to have custom roms first? thanks!

KpopAMD said:
just rooted my phone! now the search for custom firmware begins! join me dude! hehe
on a side note guys that are rooted with stock firmware can we install an app that removes those pesky ads from apps? or we need to have custom roms first? thanks!
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Im on full stock rooted rom. I find it no need to flash a custom rom cos stock is pretty damm stable and fast for me with very good battery life.
I'm using root cos of titanium backup, disabling ads, removing useless start ups and deleting bloatware.
Yes you can download adaway from play store
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unholygid said:
Im on full stock rooted rom. I find it no need to flash a custom rom cos stock is pretty damm stable and fast for me with very good battery life.
I'm using root cos of titanium backup, disabling ads, removing useless start ups and deleting bloatware.
Yes you can download adaway from play store
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thanks for the reply sir, not to take away from the thread starter but what can we use to remove bloatwares on rooted but stock roms? aside from paying programs like titanium pro? is there any other way? i wanna be able to remove bloatwares without using custom roms thanks!

Whats the deal with the titanium backup. You cant make backups ? Like with the iphone, in the computer? Or you are talking beyond a simple backup
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Thanks for the reply guys. Im still not sure to root or not. I probably will wait a bit longer. I really enjoy customising the device and i can do it without rooting for the moment.
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You can't back uo app data without a root and titanium backup. A very annoying thing about unrooted phones. Why can't they just let us back stufd up?
With Exynos Abuse, I don't see any reason not to root. It's super simple to root and unroot. Also, if you disable the exploit with Exynos Abuse and are going to unroot, make sure to enable (uncheck the box) the exploit first. If you do not, you will no longer be able to use the app to root, until you use a different root method. (I'll give you one guess on how I know that... :banghead: )
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Without root you cant delete all this unnecessary samsung app-**** and free more than 100mb space from your ROM memory.

Rooting takes my device to a whole new level.
-Titanium backups
-Adblocking
-Spen gesture control
-Xposed framework for unlimited multiwindows, per app dpi settings, various ui tweaks.
-Etc.etc... so many valuable tools work only with rooting.
Backups are my main concern, but the other root apps make this device much more enjoyable. :thumbup:
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I say root. I've rooted many devices and had no issues. Best advice for a noob would be to read over the root process for your device. After you have read the process once go over it again, and again, and again. Best to know the in's and out's before you attempt the process. Not to make the whole process sound scary but knowledge is power. If your on the fence about the whoel root process I say root but leave stock recovery. This way when it comes to returning phone for warranty if needed you simple unroot and off it goes. Worst case if you want to go all the way the great peeps of XDA always have a return to stock guide. Hope this helps

ROOT ur going to do it sooner or later

Definitely go for Root. All those above suggested programs are a must, especially Adblock and i will add Lucky patcher, which removes google adds from free programs. :angel: