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with the iPhone we jailbreak it in order to install cr**ked Apps and install some other Apps that cant work without the necessary privileges (ex tethering), what about Android devices?
Thanks
Because we can and it's my phone and I don't want to be told what I can do with it, but the primary reason for me to Root and S-OFF is so i can install CM7
Rooting means that you can flash whatever custom rom you want from proposed android gingerbread (before its officially released) to chinese MIUI rom (similarities to iphone). whichever takes your fancy....as there are alot to choose from.....you can also overclock your device to improve speed and underclock to improve battery....you also get total freedom to file manage your phone and make necessary backups if anything were to go wrong....this is just some of the endless possibilities of rooting...
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Rooting gives you full access to your phone.
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Why would you even ask such a thing?
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Skwuhrl said:
Why would you even ask such a thing?
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hahah.....lol
I rooted mine to get rid of all the rubbish bloatware that comes with being an Orange UK customer. They suck for bloatware, takes over everything! In your face Orange!
also, rooting gives us the possibility to overclock/underclock!
it is necessary to install custom rom.i advise to you.
we root in the pursuit of perfection
we root because we need more control over our phone. we only want what we need and remove what we don't need. stock ROM is good, but its not enough.
Title says it all.
I am new to the android world and the information you get from a google search is convoluted at best.
I have a desire that I rooted using UnRevoked3. I was however misled by all the research I did that I could make a backup of my system and data before the generic rom was flashed. I now have a rooted phone without any backup to revert back to.
My phone is Ntelos CDMA HTC Desire android 2.1
I do however have access to a non-rooted (same phone and network) phone if it is at all possible to recover the recovery and system partitions without rooting the phone my cousin will let me do so.
Can this be done? if so a detailed explanation of how to do it would be helpful.
waynestir said:
Title says it all.
I am new to the android world and the information you get from a google search is convoluted at best.
I have a desire that I rooted using UnRevoked3. I was however misled by all the research I did that I could make a backup of my system and data before the generic rom was flashed. I now have a rooted phone without any backup to revert back to.
My phone is Ntelos CDMA HTC Desire android 2.1
I do however have access to a non-rooted (same phone and network) phone if it is at all possible to recover the recovery and system partitions without rooting the phone my cousin will let me do so.
Can this be done? if so a detailed explanation of how to do it would be helpful.
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If I understand correctly you want to "unroot" you phone. This is done by installing htc Sync and running the appropriate RUU from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667.
Thre is no reason, besides the fact that you want to return your phone for warranty purposes and/or that you want to have stock system, for you to revert to stock.
Copying and pasting backups seems like a very bad idea since there might be subtle differences between phones which thus might generate more problems than it solves.
I'm not saying that it's not possible, it's not recommended. There are a bunch of other safer alternatives.
Yes I want to revert to stock rom which I no longer have. I just wanted to experiment a little. I never would have done in the first place had I known there would be no going back.
There are no stock roms availibe for my phone. I need a RUU from Ntelos not verison or USCC.
No need to, you can't backup a unrooted rom. Since you are already rooted just make a nandroid of that rom to revert to. Only when things go really wrong you need to use the ruu.
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No need to, you can't backup a unrooted rom. Since you are already rooted just make a nandroid of that rom to revert to. Only when things go really wrong you need to use the ruu.
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No its just that nobody has sorted out how. I ran the US Cellular update on my phone and got a stock USSC non-root phone working on Ntelos network. I then ran root again to get my data back of course.
Their app runs on windows pc and doesn't require special access such as root. All the capability is there I'm sure. just under lock and key.
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No its just that nobody has sorted out how. I ran the US Cellular update on my phone and got a stock USSC non-root phone working on Ntelos network. I then ran root again to get my data back of course.
Their app runs on windows pc and doesn't require special access such as root. All the capability is there I'm sure. just under lock and key.
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What do you mean by getting your data back ? All your data is lost (contacts, apps, messages, etc) when you flash a new ROM. The only things that stay intact are those which you have saved on your SD.
There are plenty of ways to backup stuff from unrooted devices. However non of them provide any useful safety backup regarding rooting or flashing.
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What do you mean by getting your data back ? All your data is lost (contacts, apps, messages, etc) when you flash a new ROM. The only things that stay intact are those which you have saved on your SD.
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from a backup that I had made prior to flash.
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There are plenty of ways to backup stuff from unrooted devices. However non of them provide any useful safety backup regarding rooting or flashing.
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If there are ways then that is what I am looking for. I have no memory of Unix/Linux command line. I'm sure I have a text laying around somewhere and could refresh my memory. However I elect to ask those in the know to guide me.
I simply want to get a stock system rom from the same make and model phone on the same network without voiding the warranty on that phone. My service provider had very little bloat ware and didn't remove apps that I found missing in the verizon/US Cell stock roms. My phone being root or not is not the question. For that I don't care accept if I ever need warranty work done. And that is just my luck sometimes so.. better safe than sorry.
I need some help and am sure that some of you have the answers, because I don't fully understand all of this and what my options are, or what the best solution is. I have looked through the different threads and found bits and pieces of some of this, but nothing that specifically answered my situation. I will try to put out all of the pertinent info, but please let me know your thoughts, etc...
I have an HTC Evo. I have root access, from unrevoked 2. Here are the current settings/stats from my phone setup/start screen (or whatever it's called when you hold down the volume button and put the battery in):
Android Version 2.2
Baseband Version 2.15.00.09.01
Software Number 3.29.651.5
Model Number PC36100
I don't care anything about custom roms, etc. The only thing that I did the unrevoked for is to do the wireless tethering and being able to freeze some of the sprint apps. The Wireless tethering is the main need for the root, though. I definitely don't want to lose that.
I haven't done any OTA updates from Sprint since I ran unrevoked. I read at the time not to do them because I might lose root access. It has been over a year since I have updated Android, and my phone is doing some odd things, and acting a litte wierd in some instances. I would also like to upgrade to the newest Android release, and probably to Ice Cream Sandwich, when it comes out. However, I know that it usually takes a little bit after these releases come out for the developers to gain root. I feel like there are probably a good bit of updates and new features that Android has added in the last year that I am missing out on.
So, should I just stick with what I have, so as not to lose root? Or, should I just try the latest OTA update and see what happens? Also, when they release ICS to the Evo, if I run that update, will I lose root? I see that unrevoked has updated to version 3, and that there's also a unrevoked forever. Which of these is what I would need?
Lastly, if I am going to run these updates, do I need to 'un-root' first?
Thank you all so much for any suggestions, helpful hints, etc. I'd rather ask on the front end instead of having to post an 'emergency' thread.
Thanks!
All you need to do is go in the developers section here and download yourself a stock rooted 2.3 rom and flash it. No need to lose root or reroot. Just make sure you wipe everything except the sdcard.
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Ok, thanks. I'll check that out. Again, as a dummy on some of this stuff, is it worth it time-wise to go ahead and do this now, or should I wait until the devs come up with an Evo release of ICS? Just wondering what your opinions on that would be.
Thanks again!
If you have flashed unrevoked forever then doing any ota updates should not affect your s-off status but doing ota updates are not recommended on rooted phones.
Support TrevE!!
Sprint is not going to release an Ice Cream Sandwich update for the EVO 4g.
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I know that they're not going to release it for the Evo, but I've seen it mentioned several places that the developers here will probably create a version for the Evo. I'm just wondering if it makes sense to do the upgrade to 2.3 now, since I'm still on 2.2, or if you all would suggest just waiting to do it until there's a version of ICS to update to...
(I know that some of you are thinking that the update is super simple and easy, but I'm not as familiar with it, so doing something like this takes me forever so that I don't screw up something)
So.....thoughts!???
Thanks!
Yes flash a stock rooted Ginger bread rom and you will not be disappointed. It will be a while for the ics roms to be close to bug free. Flash away and have a nice day.
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Yes flash a stock rooted Ginger bread rom and you will not be disappointed. It will be a while for the ics roms to be close to bug free. Flash away and have a nice day.
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Exactly what he said and there are stock gingerbread roms here on xda that you can flash and that will give you a rooted stock gingerbread rom. It will be just like you get a brand new evo out of the box except it has root access. Flasher the stock rom just like you would any other rom through recovery. It's very easy and good luck man.
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You guys are awesome!
I don't have any idea how to flash a ROM, but I've seen a couple of instructions and FAQs on here that I can follow to learn about that.
One thing that I haven't been able to really get a feel for yet is, how do I know what I'm looking for on a ROM? You both mention a stock, rooted gingerbread ROMs, is there a specific one that you're thinking of? I see different names (swagged out, Sns gingerbread, sense, etc) but don't know what these names mean. How can I tell which one is just basic, but will allow me to do two things, 1-wireless tether and 2- delete the extra crap that sprint puts on the phone????
I'm assuming that I can find these just by looking here in the "Evo 4G Android Development" forum? And hope to also be able to find the steps on how to flash a rom there also...
Thanks again!
If I were u ide check out the classic... By Mr Tommy tomato
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I Found the classic rom and fresh Evo rom...
One thing that I was just thinking about... How do I recover all of the apps that I have downloaded? I have the full version of titanium backup, and just ran the full backup of apps and data. Do I recover them from that? Or Is there a better or different way?
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I Found the classic rom and fresh Evo rom...
One thing that I was just thinking about... How do I recover all of the apps that I have downloaded? I have the full version of titanium backup, and just ran the full backup of apps and data. Do I recover them from that? Or Is there a better or different way?
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Yes restoring apps with TB is fine.
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Hi Experts of the forum.
I have a HTC Desire Z with android 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1
Currently I am having some problem with the reloading of the home screen almost everytime i go into a full page app and exit.
It is quite irritating.
I was told that this is caused by Sense.
But anyway i was wondering if it is possible to root the phone now and upgrade to the new ICS version as well as the latest Sense that HTC provides.
As much as i hate the reloading problem that sense is causing, i still like their UI, and their new UI as well, and i hate it that HTC is not going to upgrade it for Desire Z.
Anyone can advise on how to upgrade by root or something.
I can't seem to find a way to root or upgrade.
BTW, i read somewhere after rooting we can also overclock the phone, but is it a good idea to do so, will it cause any problem and will it like kill the battery life very fast?
Please help.
Thanks.
Not at a computer so I don't have the links handy. Check the thread in development on rooting
Only folow the wiki ie don't use visionary and don't simple try the htc hboot unlock.
Once you have the right link to downgrade, root and flash custom recovery you can install lots of roms
Some better than others but you will easily find one better than your stock rom, even if you love the sense ui
You can find many super fast sense roms with many nice extras added.
And yes overclocking is plenty safe so long as you don't attempt something crazy like 2ghz but even if you did
The chance of perment damange is low. As far as battery life many custom roms may increase your battery life
Over a stock rom even with overclocking. I am a heavy user and tend to get close to 24hrs on most roms between
Charges, and this is with slight overclocking (1-1.5 depending on current rom and such)
Good luck and if you have any issues use the search option first ask question if your still confused
There is a great community on xda ready to help
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thanks for the advice, but just to check, if i root and change rom, will it delete all my apps and data? is it possible to save all my data and apps data?
stevedino87 said:
thanks for the advice, but just to check, if i root and change rom, will it delete all my apps and data? is it possible to save all my data and apps data?
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Yes, it will. You can easily reinstall the apps, but the problem is the app data. If you are rooted then you can use a tool like Titanium Backup to backup all the app data. But if you are on 2.3.3 and not currently rooted, that won't work for you, since you have to downgrade as part of the rooting process (thereby losing all your app data). It'll be fine going forward once you are rooted, but the problem is with your current data.
For stuff like SMS, there are various backup utilities on the Play Store where you can back those up without requiring root.
How much stuff do you have (in terms of app data) that is going to be a problem if you lost it ?
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Thanks for the advice, btw which forum should i start with? any recommendation which rom i should use?
Look up the wiki - google search "downgrade and root htc g2" I'm sure that would be one of the first results, again I'm not by a computer so I don't have a link handy
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Got the S3 and rooted it but now I need to know why I rooted it. I know, I'm dumb. But this thread is just packed with too many things to learn anything. It's Jelly Bean frost this, JB fire this. I can't even learn what any of it is. Somebody please tell me what I should do with my rooted phone but first tell me what ROMS and all that other stuff is.
So you can delete bloatware and backup stuff.
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Got the S3 and rooted it but now I need to know why I rooted it. I know, I'm dumb. But this thread is just packed with too many things to learn anything. It's Jelly Bean frost this, JB fire this. I can't even learn what any of it is. Somebody please tell me what I should do with my rooted phone but first tell me what ROMS and all that other stuff is.
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Read the stickies in this forum and the rom descriptions.
You root because you want complete control over your technology. You root because of lackluster performance from stock software. You root because a company wants to limit you on the potential and fun you can have.
If you're not a technologist and have no desire to experiment and push the limits of your device then you shouldn't root in the first place.
You root your phone to over clock, under clock, under volt, themes, roms, radios, debloat, etc.
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You root your phone to over clock, under clock, under volt, themes, roms, radios, debloat, etc.
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Whats ROMS and radios?
TomTcom said:
Read the stickies in this forum and the rom descriptions.
You root because you want complete control over your technology. You root because of lackluster performance from stock software. You root because a company wants to limit you on the potential and fun you can have.
If you're not a technologist and have no desire to experiment and push the limits of your device then you shouldn't root in the first place.
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I can't find anything to do because this forum is nothing but a clustered, pack, load of too many things.
This was 3 or 4 threads below this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900345
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I can't find anything to do because this forum is nothing but a clustered, pack, load of too many things.
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Go into the developer forum. Lots of good info there. I spent several months researching and reading everything to determine the best route for me and what I wanted to accomplish and what was important for me. The definitions you seek are in many posts and several definitions are universal to each phone. Research man, research!
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Got the S3 and rooted it but now I need to know why I rooted it. I know, I'm dumb. But this thread is just packed with too many things to learn anything. It's Jelly Bean frost this, JB fire this. I can't even learn what any of it is. Somebody please tell me what I should do with my rooted phone but first tell me what ROMS and all that other stuff is.
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The main and what I consider biggest reason for rooting is being able to back up any and all info and apps. The very first thing I would do after gaining root is make sure you have a custom recovery installed and do a full nandroid backup, either CWM touch or TWRP. Both of those are very easy to install, for the CWM just get Rom Manager from the play store and flash recovery from the app, or for TWRP get GooManager from the store and again flash from the app.
Second would be to install Titanium Backup and back up all your apps.
Once you've done both of those steps you should get Terminal Emulator from the store and read and follow these directions:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32397-tutorial-imei-backup-nv-with-qpst-us-variants/
This will be your 3rd backup and you should now be able to recover from any type of issue unless you completely brick your phone.
AFTER all this you can think about flashing a new rom, as for which one I would read the OP carefully and figure out what you are looking for. Do you want a cutting edge, completely up to date rom with jellybean, a 100% stable, bug free rom, a "pretty" rom, etc.
If you cant find anything in these threads after the help you've gotten here then it's hopeless.
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