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[Q] Changing Mem Card and Rooting

Hi guys i need some help and advice here.
Q1. I have been installing a lot of games and apps mainly from gameloft which eats up a lot of space on my 8gb mem card , i am thinking of getting a 32gb Kingston class 4 mem card . After getting it can i just use a com and transfer everything over by copying and pasting ? Will my games/apps/save data be lost or something?
Q2. Another issue is the internal memory , i only have less than 50mb internal memory left and I am having trouble installing new apps and games. So i am thinking of rooting to clear up the bloatware and to move those apps that cannot be transferred to the sd card on an unrooted device. Any comments/advice?
Thanks in advance!!

Copy paste works well. And yes all your saved game data is on sd.
Root is good, and if remove all crap you free a lot space.
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Wow thanks that was a fast reply!!
Oh btw do all phones have a locked bootloader when purchased ? Cause most people bought their phones from a carrier but i bought mine from the sony retail store when my Aino broke down and my contract was far from ending. Sorry I am new to all this rooting stuff , though i read up on a lot of guides but i fear they may be outdated. My android version is 2.3.3 btw.

Yes they all locked. With 2.3.3 you can root without opening bootloader, BUT faster and not so painful is unlock your bootloader. After that you can use custom kernel also. with new kernel is gaming to much more funny
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Hmm i am not sure if i want to unlock my bootloader , it seems far more riskier than just rooting it. All i want is more space to install my apps and games.

It might seem easier now.
But do you want to flash back to an older firmware, root it, do ota to the latest firmware every time a new update comes out?
We (with unlocked bootloader) just flash the new firmware with FlashTool and root it via recovery, a pre-rooted system.img or kernel. At the end that's easier and saves time.
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Flo95 said:
It might seem easier now.
But do you want to flash back to an older firmware, root it, do ota to the latest firmware every time a new update comes out?
We (with unlocked bootloader) just flash the new firmware with FlashTool and root it via recovery, a pre-rooted system.img or kernel. At the end that's easier and saves time.
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Haha sorry but i am really seeing a lot of stars with all the technical information i am seeing. But i am afraid of unlocking the bootloader cause i am afraid of screwing up my phone. From what i read unlocking the bootloader really deals with the core of your phone and one wrong step can screw/brick it.

xCloudStrifez said:
Haha sorry but i am really seeing a lot of stars with all the technical information i am seeing. But i am afraid of unlocking the bootloader cause i am afraid of screwing up my phone. From what i read unlocking the bootloader really deals with the core of your phone and one wrong step can screw/brick it.
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Read forum and you see. How many treads updating via OTA and rooting thing went wrong...and how many treads you find when phone bricked with unlocking bootloader. ofcourse it only my opinion.
Regards!
Taavi
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Wow .... oh man now i dont really dont know what to do...
Haha but i appreciate your honest opinions , better be safe than sorry!

xCloudStrifez said:
Wow .... oh man now i dont really dont know what to do...
Haha but i appreciate your honest opinions , better be safe than sorry!
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I supose "read carefuli forum" Thers a lot reading, but its best way to start understanding what you gonna do and HOW
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Anyone heard of gingerbread or some other apps/methods that makes rooting very easy? Should I try it ? My android version is 2.3.3

xCloudStrifez said:
Anyone heard of gingerbread or some other apps/methods that makes rooting very easy? Should I try it ? My android version is 2.3.3
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Gingerbreak works with 2.2.x
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Remember that you can also relock your bootloader if you have rooted your phone, then you're safe again.
Deleting bloatware doesn't free space immediately, you also have to move your app to an other part of the internal memory which is normally used for system app only.

xCloudStrifez said:
Anyone heard of gingerbread or some other apps/methods that makes rooting very easy? Should I try it ?
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F&*king Jesus, it's amazing just how many people have never heard of or know how to use google.

Noobs first question (Unlock Bootloader & Root)

I'm new to the world of android as I've been on the iphone for the past 3 years. I have been reading everything here that I can as to avoid pissing you guys off from having to answer these simplistic questions over and over. I know you guys get tired of it and I have been searching and trying to learn.
I have a pretty basic question and was hoping to get some input and advice.
I know nothing about Bootloader & Root. As I said I'm coming from the iphone. My question is, should i unlock the bootloader and root as soon as I get the device? What are the advantages in doing so? I really have no intention of modding the device and planned on leaving it totally stock. I got burnt out on modding way back with Motorola seam updates! I know doing this would wipe the device so I was wondering if I should do it 1st, but since google syncs everything to the device, couldn't I do it later and still sync everything back just like when you 1st get it?

Unlocked bootloader lets you flash costume kernels cooked and modded by the devs here, could give a more optimized phone or a more unstable.. root gives you super user or admin over your phone, that lets you delete, change or add systemfiles, some market appa depend on it.. as an everyday user, you do not NEED to do these things to your phone, but if you ever get boored and want to play around to keep your phone "new and exciting" its a nice way to keep you from tire and buy something new for a while. My xperia x10 is miles better then stock my incoming SGN i will probably keep it stock for a while.. Welcome to the community
Oh and yes, once you synced your contacts and apps you can play around with modds and allways get them synced to your phone, app DATA will however not sync.
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I Unlocked my bootloader first thing out of the box.. Because it will wipe everything. After that you can root and flash CWM without any data loss so you are free to run stock or rooted stock as long as you want and be able to flash when your ready and use titanium backup to restore your apps.

I need Titanium backup. I don't know how people get by without it. Therefore I have to root every phone right away.

I would say rooting is the most important for backing up app data. The sync tells you that it will back up and restore app data but it doesn't really. It only backs up certain data and only if the app is written specifically to support it, iirc. With root you can use tools like Titanium Backup to back up everything in case you need to factory reset, change phone or simply just going back to an earlier backup.
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I don't have a SGN (yet) but when I. Got my DROID Incredible I rooted it as soon as someone found a way... took a few hours but I was too impatient for one-click root.
Anyway, I did it solely to remove bloat and Sense. Since the SGN is stock, and the GSM version doesn't have any bloat that I'm aware of... I'd say you could stay stock for a while, root if you feel the need later (or want the extra benefits of Titanium BU or other root apps).
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[Q] Is there any way to save your data to recover after rooting

So I've come to notice that I can't even change a widget background to transparent without rooting (right?) so I want to root my phone. I reflashed my GN to have yakju which wiped all the data and it was a pain to get everything back as it was before. Was able to save my messages, which I'm very thankful for as it took ages to get them out of my old Nokia (series 40) to my GN. Since I've downloaded apps from "third party providers" that usually cost money but were on a special sale (GetJar) and I'd also lose these apps.
It seems that there are a lot of ways to backup data if you have root access, but if you don't your out of luck. Shame on me for not rooting the minute I got the phone, but I believed when people told me that Android was open (BAZINGA). So before I lose ~20 bucks worth of apps I want to be sure there really is no way for me to save them somewhere somehow.
Could someone also point me to a topic of sorts where there are some facts listed about rooting? I know it's somewhere here, but I haven't found it (to be frank this question is probably also in here somewhere, but couldn't find it either). I guess I can't have a rooted phone with the default ROM? Right? So if I root I won't get updates from Google?
As you can see I'm an Android/XDA nooblet.

For data back up after rooting Titanium Backup is a must have. I bought the pro version.
From my understanding you will still get OTA updates from Google if the finger print = google/yakju/maguro:4.0.2/ICL53.... for example.
If the fingerpring contains samsung anywhere in there then your upade will come from sammy not google

I have TB installed, but as said I'm not rooted yet so it's useless. My device is currently marked as Google. So what I have to do is just choose a ROM that has that fingerprint? Okay.

start here mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310

Rooting will NOT wipe your data or apps. However, if you re-locked your bootloader, then you are out of luck, as unlocking the bootloader causes a full wipe. You should always leave your bootloader unlocked -- it saves a lot of hassle... like what you are now experiencing.
There is no good way to backup without root.
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efrant said:
Rooting will NOT wipe your data or apps. However, if you re-locked your bootloader, then you are out of luck, as unlocking the bootloader causes a full wipe. You should always leave your bootloader unlocked -- it saves a lot of hassle... like what you are now experiencing.
There is no good way to backup without root.
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Are you positive? That would be awesome!
Another noob question, what's the difference between rooting and unlocking the bootloader? Is the latter for installing things like ClockWorkMod Recovery?

Neo3D said:
Are you positive? That would be awesome!
Another noob question, what's the difference between rooting and unlocking the bootloader? Is the latter for installing things like ClockWorkMod Recovery?
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Rooting simply gives you 'root' access, which is the Linux equivalent of administrator on Windows. Unlocking the bootloader lets you flash packages signed by sources other than official, or unsigned as well.
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Neo3D said:
Are you positive? That would be awesome!
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If you're talking about rooting not wiping your phone, then yes. However, unlocking will wipe your phone, thus the recommendation to do it before you've d/led or configured anything. I unlocked right after I did the initial out-of-box setup, had to go through again after the unlock wiped the phone, and then rooted it yesterday. I used this method to root (there's a similar rundown in the GN LTE forum) and none of my apps or tweaks had been removed or changed. But you should always make backups just in case, which the first link helps you with.

Yeah. So the answer is there is no way to save your your data. Luckily a lot of the stuff is synced with Google. Your messages you can save with SMS backup. I unlocked, rooted and went ahead and flashed a new ROM (hopefully that is the right terminology: you flash ROMs, right?). In between the new ROM and rooting I backed up with Titanium Backup.
This one let's you sync with Facebook which is awesome. Now if only FB would be added as an IM service as well. It's probably the only instant messaging service in use around here; kind of a bummer it isn't included. Does anyone know if someone is intending to add this functionality in a custom ROM etc? (sorry, just feels wrong to strat a new topic for this question.)
I have my music widget now with a transparent background.

You won't lose the paid apps even if you wipe/unistall them. They will appear as purchased for you in the android market always. You just need to reinstall them.
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My backup pro

App manager on es file explorer makes back ups of .apk files, pretty sure you don't need root, but I could be mistaken, its a free app so its not like you have anything to lose. If it does work, after backing up your apps you can then move the files to your pc with a usb cable, or transfer the files to a cloud storage like dropbox for extra security.
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Jaytex24 said:
App manager on es file explorer makes back ups of .apk files, pretty sure you don't need root, but I could be mistaken, its a free app so its not like you have anything to lose. If it does work, after backing up your apps you can then move the files to your pc with a usb cable, or transfer the files to a cloud storage like dropbox for extra security.
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Needs root
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AdrianE46 said:
You won't lose the paid apps even if you wipe/unistall them. They will appear as purchased for you in the android market always. You just need to reinstall them.
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I think that only applies to apps purchased/downloaded through Android market.

I can't remember but i read that with ics, using adb without unlocking or rooting you can back up your data. I will try and find the link, try the dev forum.
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hubono said:
I can't remember but i read that with ics, using adb without unlocking or rooting you can back up your data. I will try and find the link, try the dev forum.
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Nope, not without root.
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JX3 said:
Yeah. So the answer is there is no way to save your your data. Luckily a lot of the stuff is synced with Google.
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Actually, that isn't entirely true. You can still back-up what you can see on the Nexus when you connect it to your computer.

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Actually, that isn't entirely true. You can still back-up what you can see on the Nexus when you connect it to your computer.
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That is true, I was going to say to always backup your "sd card" by copying it over to your computer when locking/unlocking as it will be wiped for whatever reason.

efrant said:
Nope, not without root.
are you sure, i haven't started fooling around with mine yet, decided to stay stock for a while but here it says otherwise
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402347
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No windows platform support thou
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The consequences of rooting

For exemple; Whould the Swype function disapear?
Whould my currently existing Guarrantee disapear? (In the thoughts that the phone goes broke)
Any risks according to the health of the phone?
I have no experience at all in this subject as you may see.
At last, why are you rooting, whats the most positive thing about rooting? (except that the phone is totally controlled by your own needs)

No, the swype function won't disappear if you root.
If you're talking about warranty, well, it depends. Some stores still acknowledge warranties even if a phone's rooted, and some don't.
Risks? Well there's bricking your phone in the process, but it's gonna be almost impossible if you just read, read, and read instructions/posts about rooting before doing so.
Rooting gives you all the access to your phone. After rooting, you can install apps that greatly improves your battery like juice defender and freeze bloatwares using titanium backup. You can also install custom roms that is better than the stock rom which can improve performance of your phone. (made by the most awesome devs here in xda)
If you're super bored with your phone and you feel that it needs a face lift, ROOT it! It's gonna be legen... wait for it... dary!

2 days ago i installed almost latest open rom and after new rom installed i made update by OTA. I also rooted my I8150 because its damn easy. The most problem for me is to get info about which one files i can delete or freeze by Titanium to not destroy the system. Maybe someone can help me ?

Hunteros said:
2 days ago i installed almost latest open rom and after new rom installed i made update by OTA. I also rooted my I8150 because its damn easy. The most problem for me is to get info about which one files i can delete or freeze by Titanium to not destroy the system. Maybe someone can help me ?
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Have a look at this..
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...1gdDJRekl4QmkyNmIzUmRvX2h3UDVkQXc&output=html

İ have questions about rooting too.
Will rooting with unlockroot.com will increase the flash
counter?
İ cannot ask it to the releated forum because i am new user.
Thanks for any help.
Regards,

Don't take my words for granted since I'm pretty new too,but afaik only flashing custom roms increase that counter. And there's a way to reset it
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Best bet is to take the insurance from your carrier if something happens claim and pay deductible. It can go from $50-$200 depending on your device, if you are under your 30 days warranty you can exchange or return it no questions asked... rooting will not harm your phone, is flashing new roms and specially new kernels you have to pay very close attention to what you do!
The only way you will trip Odin counter is when you flash the stock firmware using odin and download mode, the newest devices will not reset its counter even with a USB jig like the Samsung gs2 skyrocket.
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İ understand now.
Thanks for the reply's.

Root or not to root

Hello guy. Sorry im new. I just got this note 2 a coupke of weeks ago. Just want to know if is that good to have a rooted device. I always had jailbreaked iphones. So i really dont know what to do. For what I can see the android is very good as it is. I would like to know the benefits of root a device and if you can point to the best ways and options to do this thanks for help.
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daproject said:
Hello guy. Sorry im new. I just got this note 2 a coupke of weeks ago. Just want to know if is that good to have a rooted device. I always had jailbreaked iphones. So i really dont know what to do. For what I can see the android is very good as it is. I would like to know the benefits of root a device and if you can point to the best ways and options to do this thanks for help.
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If ur happy with ur device now... dont root. If u want more then what yur getting...root it. Root for myself is a must so i can use titanium backup and more.
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The phone is pretty good out of the box.
However rooting will give you much more control on the phone. So it really depends on what you want to do with your phone.
Example rooting enables you to remove bloatware from your, disable auto start ups , backup data with titanium backup etc.
But since you are new. I suggest you play around with your phone a bit longer for the stock experience and do more research on the advantages of rooting before you decide to root and delete/disable important system files or fiddle something that screw up your phone causing you to re Flash the whole rom
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Don't root it if you don't need it right now. I have rooted my previous phones for apps like Titanium Backup but I didn't need any of these apps on Note 2, so I didn't see a point in rooting. I suggest you the same. There is no big plus when you root. You can remove carrier apps, or install apps that messes around with system files but if you don't need these things, you don't have to root. You'll root it when you need it.
I'm ignoring the exynos exploit when I say these things btw.

I would say yes
It depends on you. If you like it out of the box then don't.
For me it is always - YES. Why?
-Titanium Backup (backup)
-Mobile odin (flashing)
-Adaway (hmm)
-all music tweaks
-Joystick Center (all games played with pad)
-sd-booster (that's clear)
-undelete (restoring deleted files)
-WifiKill (find out yourself )
And much more.

Rooting just to install apps and little modifications to your phone to show off to your galaxy note 2 friends that aren't rooted is enough reason but there's a lot more behind rooting!
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I'd always do it, mainly because I'm paranoid and cannot live without regular device backups.
And there is always a bunch of apps I don't want on my phone, but cannot get rid of easily. However, with the amount of space on the Note 2 that's hardly a reason anymore - it definitely was one when I still had the HTC Desire.

DON'T root it unless you need custom ROM.
AND
I don't think you need custom ROM because it is toooo early looking for one now..
Trust me on this..
BR.

just rooted my phone! now the search for custom firmware begins! join me dude! hehe
on a side note guys that are rooted with stock firmware can we install an app that removes those pesky ads from apps? or we need to have custom roms first? thanks!

KpopAMD said:
just rooted my phone! now the search for custom firmware begins! join me dude! hehe
on a side note guys that are rooted with stock firmware can we install an app that removes those pesky ads from apps? or we need to have custom roms first? thanks!
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Im on full stock rooted rom. I find it no need to flash a custom rom cos stock is pretty damm stable and fast for me with very good battery life.
I'm using root cos of titanium backup, disabling ads, removing useless start ups and deleting bloatware.
Yes you can download adaway from play store
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unholygid said:
Im on full stock rooted rom. I find it no need to flash a custom rom cos stock is pretty damm stable and fast for me with very good battery life.
I'm using root cos of titanium backup, disabling ads, removing useless start ups and deleting bloatware.
Yes you can download adaway from play store
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thanks for the reply sir, not to take away from the thread starter but what can we use to remove bloatwares on rooted but stock roms? aside from paying programs like titanium pro? is there any other way? i wanna be able to remove bloatwares without using custom roms thanks!

Whats the deal with the titanium backup. You cant make backups ? Like with the iphone, in the computer? Or you are talking beyond a simple backup
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Thanks for the reply guys. Im still not sure to root or not. I probably will wait a bit longer. I really enjoy customising the device and i can do it without rooting for the moment.
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You can't back uo app data without a root and titanium backup. A very annoying thing about unrooted phones. Why can't they just let us back stufd up?
With Exynos Abuse, I don't see any reason not to root. It's super simple to root and unroot. Also, if you disable the exploit with Exynos Abuse and are going to unroot, make sure to enable (uncheck the box) the exploit first. If you do not, you will no longer be able to use the app to root, until you use a different root method. (I'll give you one guess on how I know that... :banghead: )
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Without root you cant delete all this unnecessary samsung app-**** and free more than 100mb space from your ROM memory.

Rooting takes my device to a whole new level.
-Titanium backups
-Adblocking
-Spen gesture control
-Xposed framework for unlimited multiwindows, per app dpi settings, various ui tweaks.
-Etc.etc... so many valuable tools work only with rooting.
Backups are my main concern, but the other root apps make this device much more enjoyable. :thumbup:
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I say root. I've rooted many devices and had no issues. Best advice for a noob would be to read over the root process for your device. After you have read the process once go over it again, and again, and again. Best to know the in's and out's before you attempt the process. Not to make the whole process sound scary but knowledge is power. If your on the fence about the whoel root process I say root but leave stock recovery. This way when it comes to returning phone for warranty if needed you simple unroot and off it goes. Worst case if you want to go all the way the great peeps of XDA always have a return to stock guide. Hope this helps

ROOT ur going to do it sooner or later

Definitely go for Root. All those above suggested programs are a must, especially Adblock and i will add Lucky patcher, which removes google adds from free programs. :angel: