[Q] Why are people recomending wiping Data/Cache/Dalvik Cache multiple times? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II

I have seen a number of post recently where people are recommending that you should wipe Data/Cache/Dalvik Cache multiple times each before flashing a new rom. Why would you need to do them multiple times? Shouldn't once be enough?

Most of the tie ues but just to make sure everything wipe completely. ..like when I drive I always double check left and right just to be sure.
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Technically wiping once should suffice but there were instances where people had issues when they wiped cache once and it worked for them by wiping cache twice or thrice.
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Because they believe in black magic or voodoo. They also wipe battery stats thinking it will improve battery life. I'm pretty sure they probably wave dead chickens over their phones as part of the new ROM flashing process.
Seriously, there's no need, but there's no harm either.

distortedloop said:
Because they believe in black magic or voodoo. They also wipe battery stats thinking it will improve battery life. I'm pretty sure they probably wave dead chickens over their phones as part of the new ROM flashing process.
Seriously, there's no need, but there's no harm either.
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lol! so true...

eh, habit. lol
i would also ask why people wipe cache and dalvik cache at all when flashing a kernel... as it is by all logic and explanation in how android/linux works not necessary at all. kernel has nothing to do with your .dex files.... period. they are there, just there simply to access.
but i still recommend doing it. why, you ask? eh, habit. lol

S2svetko said:
I have seen a number of post recently where people are recommending that you should wipe Data/Cache/Dalvik Cache multiple times each before flashing a new rom. Why would you need to do them multiple times? Shouldn't once be enough?
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I was thinking the same thing.

I like to sacrifice a lamb and two doves before every flash.
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It's because back in the CWM3 days, wiping once was almost never sufficient.
Wiping once might just soft-brick your phone.
Solution: Wipe three times
I still do it. Out of habit. And I'm on TWRP!

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I just don't want to make a mistake

I have moved over to ext4 and am on one of viperroms new releases. I want to jump on their new release wen it comes out Monday or so, or even see a few other roms. Is it really as easy as moving the zip to sd and booting into cwm3 and wiping a few things and installing the rom zip? Just swap around any time I want?
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Yup. Just backup in cwm before you start wiping...just in case. Plus, once you have the new rom, you do an advanced restore and restore your data.
Some.of.the roms lime bonsai you don't have to wipe data cause it will backup and then wipe and restore all in the same installation process. Its so easy to install.
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I'm actually looking at bonsai. Viper is really nice so far. Couple things I'm going to add in, anarchy launcher and the like. Im just baffled some folks can just sit down at home and crank out these roms and sammy just can't seem to keep their software at the same level as their hardware. Thanks devs!
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tpike said:
sammy just can't seem to keep their software at the same level as their hardware.
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Its despicable

Brick Phone

I was trying to flash my phone to a different room and I do not know what I did wrong. I was in Starbust, then I wanted to try Viper. Do I did a factory wipe, wipe cache, dalvik and system format. Then I did an update of viper and I did wipe cache, dalvik and system format, that's when problems started. I try to recover thought clock work, but it came to mind to just used Odinv1.85 but for reason I downloaded the wrong one. I downloaded the old epic Odin and when I realize I did that I unplugged it. So now I can even start clockwork or Odindownload mode..when you hold volume down and power. The only thing I get is a blue light on the top...Help???
drsteven2 said:
I was trying to flash my phone to a different room and I do not know what I did wrong. I was in Starbust, then I wanted to try Viper. Do I did a factory wipe, wipe cache, dalvik and system format. Then I did an update of viper and I did wipe cache, dalvik and system format, that's when problems started. I try to recover thought clock work, but it came to mind to just used Odinv1.85 but for reason I downloaded the wrong one. I downloaded the old epic Odin and when I realize I did that I unplugged it. So now I can even start clockwork or Odindownload mode..when you hold volume down and power. The only thing I get is a blue light on the top...Help???
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I have no clue what u did all you have said makes very little sense explain better please
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Odin is odin there is no odin for epic and different for epic touch if you were using odin and just pulled cable while flashing you were stupid and bricked your phone for no reason congratulations that is why you read and make sure what your doing is right before you hit the go button
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If all you get is the blue light, then it's hard bricked. You'll need to call sprint and play dumb or file a claim. Sorry for your luck but the idea bricked my first touch as well.
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Brick
Okay..Im just going to the store and pretend I dont know what happend..I have insurance..
Thanks
ptfdmedic said:
If all you get is the blue light, then it's hard bricked. You'll need to call sprint and play dumb or file a claim. Sorry for your luck but the idea bricked my first touch as well.
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And Odin is completely Gone!!!
Enjoy paying the $100 fee to get a new phone instead of taking 30 minutes to read the Odin Guide and figure **** out. Seriously, its not hard.
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I just got my phone replace by Sprint for Free..I took my time this time and I did it right..
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sirslipzalot said:
Enjoy paying the $100 fee to get a new phone instead of taking 30 minutes to read the Odin Guide and figure **** out. Seriously, its not hard.
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Unfortunately, the TEP covers this sort of crap.
Respectfully, if you don't know what you're doing/can't read don't root.
I do know how to root I just simply was not paying attention. But now I am fully rooted using Viper Rom....I was only asking for opinions not people reprimand me..The first and last time I brick a phone..
mattykinsx said:
Unfortunately, the TEP covers this sort of crap.
Respectfully, if you don't know what you're doing/can't read don't root.
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Stupid Question of the Day.

In some of the dev threads they advise wiping multiple times before flashing a rom. If I'm using darkside's wipe I don't see how flashing the wipe 3 times is going to do anything different? I mean it's called a wipe for a reason isn't it???
There may be some residual data left over from one wipe, so some Dev's recommend wiping multiple times.
It's easier to deal with people by saying just wipe it again and again! "What it's not working for you? Wipe it s couple of more times"
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Wiping a bunch a times increases errors on the SD card or internal storage in the long run... y'all keep on and your sII gonna turn handicap
Teo032 said:
It's easier to deal with people by saying just wipe it again and again! "What it's not working for you? Wipe it s couple of more times"
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This. There's no benefit or harm to wiping multiple times, it's just the easiest go to solution. I've always wiped once for anything (darkside, cache, dalvik) and have never had a problem.
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Wiping a bunch a times increases errors on the SD card or internal storage in the long run... y'all keep on and your sII gonna turn handicap
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I have no evidence but I agree with you. I think wipes are essentially writes and writes add up on memory.
bFORTIFIED said:
I have no evidence but I agree with you. I think wipes are essentially writes and writes add up on memory.
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Your phone will die and the galaxy s8 will have been old news and we will have pico sd cards before you break your memory by writing too much on it

[Q] Any suggestion on a e4gt rom that DOES NOT require a wipe

i did a search but nothing useful popped up, i saw where the Motorola Photon 4G has a rom called the kitchen sink, that doesnt make you wipe, allowing you to keep all your data but gives you the benefits of a rom. thanks
If your just stock el29 rooted. just flash calks 3.0, im sure blazer would work to.but i did calks. I flashed back to stock a few nights ago and decided to flash calks real quick to real quick.everything is fine here. No data loss or anything. Any rom should work from stock rooted, just its healthy to clear data and what not when going between roms.
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ok im el29 rooted and have clockwork just nerves about a rom and losing everything when i do decide to get one, thanks ill have to try that
i meant clockwork and i have a backup on my sd card, im new to all of this
fiyaman35 said:
i meant clockwork and i have a backup on my sd card, im new to all of this
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Be sure you read everything! Do not be impatient or you WILL brick your phone. Mobile Odin will become your best friend and is well worth a few bucks.
Should you lose your data, you will learn that its really not that bad. After switching to aokp I never restored my apps or data but instead just re-downloaded the apps I wanted. Never felt any regret.
Welcome to the community buddy.
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peanut1596 said:
Be sure you read everything! Do not be impatient or you WILL brick your phone. Mobile Odin will become your best friend and is well worth a few bucks.
Should you lose your data, you will learn that its really not that bad. After switching to aokp I never restored my apps or data but instead just re-downloaded the apps I wanted. Never felt any regret.
Welcome to the community buddy.
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thanks i wish i would of done this months ago ive had this phone since sept 2011 and have all kinds of crap saved on here
Use titanium to backup games and non system apps and you are good ....
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fiyaman35 said:
i did a search but nothing useful popped up, i saw where the Motorola Photon 4G has a rom called the kitchen sink, that doesnt make you wipe, allowing you to keep all your data but gives you the benefits of a rom. thanks
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Wiping is good, it keeps the flies away and people won't avoid you, besides who wants to walk around with messy pants all day. Always wipe.
Its good for you and for your phone.
Pp.
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PanchoPlanet said:
Wiping is good, it keeps the flies away and people won't avoid you, besides who wants to walk around with messy pants all day. Always wipe.
Its good for you and for your phone.
Pp.
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Dude.....weak....and gross. Lol
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Stuck in boot loop

Phone was working fine and I went to switch to airplane mode. All of a sudden it rebooted itself and got stuck on the spinning CM startup screen cirlce, I let it sit for about 10 minutes and never booted. Only option was a battery pull and after doing that I tried starting it up again and same thing, it sat at the spinning CM cirlce for about 10 minutes. Went into recovery and restored a nandroid from a few weeks ago that I know was working well and after start up it still got stuck at the spinning CM startup cirlce.
Before this issue the screen would dim after about 7 seconds while on the spinning CM cirlce then start up. Interesting thing I noticed is every time it would get stuck on the spinning CM startup circle the color never dimmed like usual to indicate the Nitest kernel kicked in. Any ideas on what to do besides odin back to fc09 and re-root? I'm at work right now so can't odin. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Try wiping everything in recovery, then restore your backup.
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Thank you for the response, going to try that right now.
Jeffreyjicha you're a life saver! I wiped cache, dalvik, data, and system...profit! Thank you a million! So i'm guessing somewhere in the system there was corrupt data?
DynamicN said:
Jeffreyjicha you're a life saver! I wiped cache, dalvik, data, and system...profit! Thank you a million! So i'm guessing somewhere in the system there was corrupt data?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Thank you for that response Kenny.
DynamicN said:
Jeffreyjicha you're a life saver! I wiped cache, dalvik, data, and system...profit! Thank you a million! So i'm guessing somewhere in the system there was corrupt data?
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No problem
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jeffreyjicha said:
No problem
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What rom are you running right now?
Effsi's modded Pac-man v20.1 with one of didhiy's latest nitest kernels
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jeffreyjicha said:
Effsi's modded Pac-man v20.1 with one of didhiy's latest nitest kernels
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How's that rom? Everything working on that Pac v20.1? I'm gonna try and find a new daily driver this week on my days off. I've always been a CM kind of guy cuz I don't use bluetooth so everything that I do use works flawless.
similar problem, but I think the microSD card is where my corrupted data lies
DynamicN said:
Jeffreyjicha you're a life saver! I wiped cache, dalvik, data, and system...profit! Thank you a million! So i'm guessing somewhere in the system there was corrupt data?
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I'm having a similar problem; I'm way too ignorant to diagnose such problems using logs, so I have to resort to options that do not involve comprehension of Android. I'm running SlimBean 2.1; for the first few days it was brilliant, the best ROM I've tried yet. Then it got stuck in boot-up. I tried popping the battery, reflashing the ROM, wiping the three memory caches and reflashing the ROM, and met with minimal success. Sometimes it would boot, but usually it locked up first.
At a loss for what to try next, I popped out my microSD card and it booted fine. I then put the card in while the phone was running. Again, no problems yet. So now I'm backing up the card and I plan to reformat it and then see if the phone can reliably boot with it in. If so, I'll start re-adding data to the card from my backup until it stops being reliable again.
I'm posting these comments on the off chance that someone else is having these problems and reflashing the ROM doesn't help them.
Cincinnatux said:
I'm having a similar problem; I'm way too ignorant to diagnose such problems using logs, so I have to resort to options that do not involve comprehension of Android. I'm running SlimBean 2.1; for the first few days it was brilliant, the best ROM I've tried yet. Then it got stuck in boot-up. I tried popping the battery, reflashing the ROM, wiping the three memory caches and reflashing the ROM, and met with minimal success. Sometimes it would boot, but usually it locked up first.
At a loss for what to try next, I popped out my microSD card and it booted fine. I then put the card in while the phone was running. Again, no problems yet. So now I'm backing up the card and I plan to reformat it and then see if the phone can reliably boot with it in. If so, I'll start re-adding data to the card from my backup until it stops being reliable again.
I'm posting these comments on the off chance that someone else is having these problems and reflashing the ROM doesn't help them.
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Try wiping data, cache, dalvik cache, and format system then install the rom. If that doesn't work then you may need to delete the boot animation and I can walk you through how to do that but try wiping all 4 and flashing the rom first.
DynamicN said:
How's that rom? Everything working on that Pac v20.1? I'm gonna try and find a new daily driver this week on my days off. I've always been a CM kind of guy cuz I don't use bluetooth so everything that I do use works flawless.
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It's not too bad. Just gets a bit sluggish if there's too many apps in the multi-task list. I went into the performance settings and made it attempt to keep 100mb of RAM free at all times. Doesn't really keep all 100 free, it just keeps about 40-60 free. Also Bluetooth is flakey like any other 4.2.2 rom. (But i just remembered you don't use it.) Other than Bluetooth being flakey, it's a pretty stable DD. I was thinking about updating to v22.0.1 though. Or maybe i just might go back to v18 where Bluetooth works lol. Also I posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197759
Cause people were having GPS problems and I don't have any with my setup.
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jeffreyjicha said:
It's not too bad. Just gets a bit sluggish if there's too many apps in the multi-task list. I went into the performance settings and made it attempt to keep 100mb of RAM free at all times. Doesn't really keep all 100 free, it just keeps about 40-60 free. Also Bluetooth is flakey like any other 4.2.2 rom. (But i just remembered you don't use it.) Other than Bluetooth being flakey, it's a pretty stable DD. I was thinking about updating to v22.0.1 though. Or maybe i just might go back to v18 where Bluetooth works lol. Also I posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197759
Cause people were having GPS problems and I don't have any with my setup.
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Sounds like a stable rom, aside from bluetooth I don't use gps often either but thank you for that link I actually just flashed Slim Bean and got it all set up how I want it so i'm gonna give Slim a week or so to see how it is. Pac will be my next rom after Slim
DynamicN said:
Sounds like a stable rom, aside from bluetooth I don't use gps often either but thank you for that link I actually just flashed Slim Bean and got it all set up how I want it so i'm gonna give Slim a week or so to see how it is. Pac will be my next rom after Slim
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No problem. This is probably going to sound a bit like a stalker, but I clicked on your name, and it went to your profile(obviously). Anyway, I saw that it said your location is Reno. Just thought it was a bit crazy, cause mine is too.
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jeffreyjicha said:
No problem. This is probably going to sound a bit like a stalker, but I clicked on your name, and it went to your profile(obviously). Anyway, I saw that it said your location is Reno. Just thought it was a bit crazy, cause mine is too.
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Haha it's cool no stalker status perceived. Actually i'm in Carson, don't like putting the real location lol.
DynamicN said:
Haha it's cool no stalker status perceived. Actually i'm in Carson, don't like putting the real location lol.
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Gotcha
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jeffreyjicha said:
Gotcha
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Not bad weather over here today, it's finally in the 70's. Back to android related stuff, there's so many roms out now for our 2 and a half year old phone it's crazy!
DynamicN said:
Not bad weather over here today, it's finally in the 70's. Back to android related stuff, there's so many roms out now for our 2 and a half year old phone it's crazy!
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For real. When my dad had this phone, he didn't want much done to it because he couldn't have something not work. But it's mine now, and I love it.
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jeffreyjicha said:
For real. When my dad had this phone, he didn't want much done to it because he couldn't have something not work. But it's mine now, and I love it.
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Sounds like he would have been a tpr kind of guy lol. This was my first smartphone 2 and a half years ago and it was definitely money well spent! It's crazy that this phone can run ics and jb thanks to awesome devs of course; speaking of which i'm going to start workin on some stuff myself soon.

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