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I hate to admit it, but my Nexus is a little laggy

I have a live wallpaper on, but it still shouldnt be that laggy. My sensation could handle a lot that was thrown at it without being all that laggy. Even with live wallpaper off it's a little laggy. Keyboard in landscape mode? Laggy. Swipe from one home screen to another? Laggy.
Any fix for this!? I just can't wait until CM9 now to fix all this stuff!

I don't know man. I came from a Sensation (running CyanogenMod 7) and the Nexus blows it out of the water in terms of speed and smoothness...and the Sensation was pretty ****in' fast running stock Android.

Well I still think my Nexus is better. I love it to death! But the sudden lag kind of kills it. I don't know what the deal is either.

I read some of the live wallpapers are laggy but not all of them
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Hi monkey hung
I too noticed some laggyness to begin with the Live Wallpaper turned on. Sounds like your last phone was an iPhone 4?
I've been playing around with settings and have a few concepts on what might be going on:
1. First of all, under: Settings > Developer Options, there is a setting called "force GPU rendering". I haven't tried this with the Live Wallpaper on yet, but perhaps this might help the 2D UI laggyness? Let me know what you find.
2. Disable your Live Wallpaper, I did, it saved battery life and things are much snappier.
3. Close your unused apps. I know ICS is meant to deal with old apps much better now, however, I find my Galaxy Nexus to be snappier when I close down the 30 odd applications I have left in a suspended state. It doesn't take long to swipe them off from the home screen using the right "Application" touch button down the right hand corner of the screen.
4. I've noticed that dragging my finger along the screen does not give the same smooth/matte feeling of the iPhone 4. As a matter of fact, it almost jitters/vibrates across the contour glass. If I touch with a less contact force, I tend to find the performance of touch screen to be smooth, rather when I apply more force it tends to jump across the surface of the screen creating a jagged touch slide. I've also noticed the higher sensitivity of the accelerometer. If you have a very steady hand you can see the extra performance, if you hand is un-steady, it almost looks worse than the previous phone, but in reality, it was simply my inability to hold the device in one spot that gave the poor performance, really this a reflection on how responsive the phone is to my dodgy movements.

Thanks but I had HTC Sensation with CM7. I think you must have mistaken when I made topic about my girl friend having an iPhone 4 haha

berglh said:
1. First of all, under: Settings > Developer Options, there is a setting called "force GPU rendering". I haven't tried this with the Live Wallpaper on yet, but perhaps this might help the 2D UI laggyness? Let me know what you find.
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please don't go around suggesting people to do this. They are developer options for a reason.
Force GPU Rendering is only likely to introduce bugs as some apps don't handle it well. Wait for the developers themselves to enable GPU rendering. In addition, GPU rendering adds extra memory overhead to the app (8MB vs 2MB).
By suggesting this, you only end up with people who post back at the forum complaining that App X or App Y no longer works.

berglh said:
Close your unused apps. I know ICS is meant to deal with old apps much better now, however, I find my Galaxy Nexus to be snappier when I close down the 30 odd applications I have left in a suspended state. It doesn't take long to swipe them off from the home screen using the right "Application" touch button down the right hand corner of the screen.
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This doesn't "close" anything. It just removed the application from your app switching list. FYI.
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I agree!
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.

davidbart said:
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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The rotation delay is intentional.
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I'm experiencing the same thing you are but the delay is intentional. If my screen was rotating all the time I would get really annoyed!

Also, the switching between 3G and 4G is intentional. 3G uses less battery... it kicks over to 4G when you're actually using the data connection.
My galaxy nexus is almost perfectly responsive. It lags on occasion, but I find it to be much smoother and more responsive overall than just about any other android device I've used. (including the galaxy S II)

davidbart said:
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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If your phone is laggy, then it's probably something on it you're running that isn't optimized for ICS. My phone runs just fine and easily outclasses any other phone I've used (and I've used pretty much every high end gsm phone that has come out here in the states). FYI your data isn't "fading from hspa to 3g", the phone idles on UMTS and when it's transmitting data it goes to hspa. This is very normal. Do a search on it if you want to know more.

kwazi said:
please don't go around suggesting people to do this. They are developer options for a reason.
Force GPU Rendering is only likely to introduce bugs as some apps don't handle it well. Wait for the developers themselves to enable GPU rendering. In addition, GPU rendering adds extra memory overhead to the app (8MB vs 2MB).
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Wow, we are really going to miss that 6 MB with the 1 GB available to the GN. My last phone was an Xperia X10 with only 384 MB of RAM, yes it was chuggy, but comparatively this amount of allocation is small and the feature seems to work well thsu far. I hardly think they are going to miss it, but your point on the Development Settings is valid to a certain degree.
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By suggesting this, you only end up with people who post back at the forum complaining that App X or App Y no longer works.
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I would rebut this by saying that most of my paid apps either don't work at all or don't work correctly due to the fact I'm running Ice Cream Sandwich prior to turning this option on on my own phone. There are many other reasons that apps are going to fail, particularly on Android. In retrospect, a disclaimer to this effect might have been appropriate considering the ramifications of the advice, and I direct this at hung monkey:
If you are not smart enough to draw the correlation between enabling the 2D acceleration and most of your apps suddenly not working, then you should probably not turn it on.
I have turned it on, it fixed the laggyness of the default Live Wallpaper, I haven't tested how much it saps the battery yet. Turning it on has only resulted in an improvement to my phone thus far.

davidbart said:
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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From what I read about your "laggy" screen rotate. That is intended so it doesn't accidentally change orientations.

matt2053 said:
This doesn't "close" anything. It just removed the application from your app switching list. FYI.
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Don't be so sure that it doesn't. For example, if I load a relatively heavy game in to memory, such as Pocket Legends or NFS Shift, and I multitask, the app is suspended. I can use the app selection menu to resume that app, and quite quickly I might ad, much faster than the time it takes for the game to load in memory.
If I then kill it with the Task Switcher, it then has to load from the start, like the suspended session was terminated when I removed it from this list. Even Google themselves said that if you like to manage your apps, then this is how you can end them, but ICS will do a good job of managing it for you anyway, the controls are there if you want them.
This behavior does not match your allegation, would you please care to shed some light?
Cheers!

I concur with the Op - the phone by comparison with my Samsung Galaxy S2, it does seem a bit laggy when scrolling between screens - I have everything setup exactly the same way as on the SGS2.
I'm not technical but I can only hope that these reasons of laggyness come down to the apps,etc. haven't been optimised for ICS yet?
When scrolling up and down the twitter, facebook or google reader apps, it just isnt as smooth as the Galaxy S2 or even the Galaxy S1.
Otherwise, very beautiful UI.

Live wallpapers need to die a horrible death. Worst Android feature ever.
To the OP, use a normal wallpaper instead and you'll see an improvement in the overall speed of the UI.

case0 said:
Live wallpapers need to die a horrible death. Worst Android feature ever.
To the OP, use a normal wallpaper instead and you'll see an improvement in the overall speed of the UI.
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I agree! This phone lags really bad with all the live wallpapers except for the Phase Beam one. TURN THEM OFF and its by far the smoothest phone.....lol

I use wp clock and havent noticed any lag versus having it off....

I really love my Nexus but...

I really love my Nexus. Gorgeous, perfectly sized 720p display, super sleek black curved display with NO carrier branding or capacitive buttons, nice loud speakerphone & ICS is fantastic. Great things to love about the Nexus!
But this phone Laaaaaaaaaaaaaags. And please don't tell me i got a bad one, or I need to reflash yada yada. If you don't agree about the lag, then you are in denial.
I'm currently running AKOP 4 & Francos 3rd Milestone + oc'd to 1.35.
I'll admit, his latest kernel sped it up again, but it seems like its only temporary. With every flash, it always starts out fast, but then after 2 weeks - it starts to slow down again.
Where do I notice it? Well lets see, try pulling down your status bar from the lock screen and see if there sometimes isn't a 1 or 2 sec delay. Is this due to the phone just waking up from being asleep at 300 mhz?
But its not just there. Opening text messages, call log, emails - its just slow.
I just kinda got used to the general lag in the system, but then I played with a Stock Galaxy s2 on GB the other day & I was amazed at how fast that phone was. It ran circles around my nexus.
So I got to thinking, on older computers with slower processors - if you try and run youtube at 720p @ full screen, it gets super choppy and laggy. Then I compared that to the nexus. Its trying to push ALOT of pixels. Is a 1.35 ghz processor enough for the resolution it runs?
Would a 1.5 or 1.7 ghz phone run it normally?
Whats with the Lag???

Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.

Lol well I tried, enjoy Odin and touch wiz
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shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
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Google Play won't carry - it's not a Google phone. It will be sold the same way the Galaxy S2 was.
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ChongoDroid said:
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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This, also, maybe try running something other than AOKP for a while. Though its really customisable, it isn't exactly the snappiest ROM.
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shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
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roflmao. Google Play won't carry it. Its not a Google phone... It'll be sold by your local carrier or importer.
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EyeAndroid said:
But this phone Laaaaaaaaaaaaaags. And please don't tell me i got a bad one, or I need to reflash yada yada. If you don't agree about the lag, then you are in denial.
I'm currently running AKOP 4 & Francos 3rd Milestone + oc'd to 1.35.
I'll admit, his latest kernel sped it up again, but it seems like its only temporary. With every flash, it always starts out fast, but then after 2 weeks - it starts to slow down again.
Where do I notice it? Well lets see, try pulling down your status bar from the lock screen and see if there sometimes isn't a 1 or 2 sec delay. Is this due to the phone just waking up from being asleep at 300 mhz?
But its not just there. Opening text messages, call log, emails - its just slow.
I just kinda got used to the general lag in the system, but then I played with a Stock Galaxy s2 on GB the other day & I was amazed at how fast that phone was. It ran circles around my nexus.
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I'm bone stock 4.0.4 and don't have any of this lag you're talking of. Essentially perfect, very few noticeable moments of lag.

This phone isn't laggy. You're just doing it wrong.
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ChongoDroid said:
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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Hmm well I have never tried the Trinity kernel, just thought everyone raves about franco so why switch? Didn't know the GPU would effect general performance. Always thought it was just for gaming. Trinity can be OC'd?

Too MUCH pRon

shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
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Ya man, never been a huge fan of the S2 due to the general design of the phone + I hate touchwiz and odin.
Yesterday I was fed up & Just put in an order for an HTC One S but then cancelled it today when I heard the speakerphone and saw how amplified the dots of the pixels really can get when you run Super Amoled on a 960 x 540 res.
LOVE LOVE LOVE Stock ICS.

Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?

I just know that I run stock 4.0.4 + root, and it works just fine, no lag whatsoever... But, since you say your phone has a loud speakerphone, it must not be the Galaxy Nexus lol... At least not an Ok one, because it surely has one of the worst speakerphone I have ever heard... And don't call me Shirley!

earlyberd said:
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
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You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?

HinotoriBR said:
I just know that I run stock 4.0.4 + root, and it works just fine, no lag whatsoever... But, since you say your phone has a loud speakerphone, it must not be the Galaxy Nexus lol... At least not an Ok one, because it surely has one of the worst speakerphone I have ever heard... And don't call me Shirley!
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You must not have Owned any HTC phones
"Surely you cant be serious??!?"
"I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley"

earlyberd said:
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
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This is not at all necessary...

martonikaj said:
This is not at all necessary...
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Why do you say that?
(As i Just got finished downloading ATK)

EyeAndroid said:
You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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i have a SG2...getting my nexus delivered tomorrow so i started browsing the nexus section...
for starters on any android you shouldnt press home unless you are leaving the app for a brief moment and are planning on going back to it...home will keep the app running...you have to use the back key to close out of many apps (especially the ones that dont have a designated exit button)
app management is very crucial but auto killing isnt good for the system...android will close apps on its own as space is needed...however there are certain apps that are service hogs and eat up ram...i am somewhat of an app hoarder but i know which apps to keep and which to get rid of...normally if you have like 120mb of free ram or so a dual core phone shouldnt ever lag...if it lags its not due to memory
on my SG2 i have like 200+ apps but almost always have like 250mb ram free (even without a reboot for several days)...on the rare occasions that i feel it lag i check and sometimes i will see that it dropped down to like 80mb free...a quick reboot fixes it
its also good to reboot your phone every few days

I'm reading a bone stock sprint galaxy nexus. I have no lag at all. And I'm coming from an epic touch. In my experience custom rom's slow down after a while. Which is why I usually stay stock with root.

EyeAndroid said:
You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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You want to try to avoid automated task killers because they can lead to stability issues if they're too aggressive, and as an additional background process they have the potential to eat your battery life. The safest way to kill apps is just by swiping them away with the recent apps menu.
Google tries really hard to implement a good system of memory management in Android, the problem is just that developers don't really utilize it. You can clearly see the difference especially if you like to run alternative browsers or old games. All of the stock Google apps work great and I can keep them open forever, but if I leave StumbleUpon or Plants Vs. Zombies open in the background long enough my phone will start to chug.

So laggy..please help.

Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!

sw6lee said:
Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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One thread is enough, you don't have to post the same question in multiple sections.
As I said on your other thread, stop blaming the device and look at your apps. My 8.0 isn't laggy at all. In fact it's pretty zippy. Chances are one of your apps is causing the issue or you have too much stuff filling your memory. Do a factory reset. If the lag stays gone add your apps back a couple at a time till you find the one that's not playing nice. How much free space/memory do you have left? The fact that the lag goes away when you reboot points to it being an app problem.

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Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have already restored all my apps from Google server. While running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if It was because I running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So will installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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go to developers options and turn off all animations,
also disable CPU power saving option in power saving mode,
then check if you feel any difference

Thanks for replies guys!
So I believe it was ram issue. Too little ram left when it was stuttering really bad. However, I'm wondering why this device was not releasing ram by closing open apps for the forgoing app to run well. This is the android way of managing ram isn't it? But when I checked the ram manager in the task manager app that came with the tab, there was very little ram left, less than 100mb I believe.
After I have been using it for more now, I also rooted it, and I deleted almost all the unnecessary bloatware. I think I see a huge improvement in performance after I did this, deleting bloatware.
The tablet runs pretty well now.
Although..I still see some stutters in animations, where the animation has dropped frame rates. Is this just due to Touchwiz? It doesn't happen every time, but sometime when opening app, or switching between apps in recent apps panel. The animations sometimes are pretty choppy. It is not a huge deal, but I just remember that my S2X was much smoother. Maybe it's because I was running a custom rom which was heavily tweaked by deviant development.
Any info would be great!
Thanks for your help again guys.

Hmmm, i have no problem at all, the tab 3 runs pretty smooth, stock. Now I have set the animations to 0.5 in developer options and it runs even smoother. Ok, it's not as fast as the Note 2, but it runs very nice. Very happy with it. (Using Nova launcher)
(I also disabled some if the apps that come with it, SNS Samsung Facebook, Samsung widgets, flipboard an the lot)
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Gede said:
Hmmm, i have no problem at all, the tab 3 runs pretty smooth, stock. Now I have set the animations to 0.5 in developer options and it runs even smoother. Ok, it's not as fast as the Note 2, but it runs very nice. Very happy with it. (Using Nova launcher)
(I also disabled some if the apps that come with it, SNS Samsung Facebook, Samsung widgets, flipboard an the lot)
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I see. Mine is running pretty nice right now but I'm feel kind of afraid as I use it thinking "will this animation be choppy?" As I long press the home button or something. Lol I really don't like choppiness.
So you don't notice ANY choppiness in animation? I want to know if it's only my device so that I can figure out what's the cause. I'm using nova launcher as well btw.
Thanks!
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sw6lee said:
I see. Mine is running pretty nice right now but I'm feel kind of afraid as I use it thinking "will this animation be choppy?" As I long press the joke button or something. Lol I really don't like choppiness.
So you don't notice ANY choppiness in animation? I want to know if it's only my device so that I can figure out what's the cause. I'm using nova launcher as well btw.
Thanks!
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Can't remember I did. Running smooth.
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Gede said:
Can't remember I did. Running smooth.
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Okay thanks for letting me know. Now I need to find why sometimes it lags even though it's better than before now. Hmm..
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[Q] Noticeable Lag When Using

Hey guys,
I've noticed lags and stutters a lot more than I feel I should with a device this powerful. A few areas where I've occasionally seen it:
- Typing on the keyboard
- Multitasking with certain apps (somewhat understandable)
- Recent apps menu
- Opening certain apps
Perhaps I've been a little spoiled in that I'm coming from the Nexus 5 with a lightweight rom, but just a few things I've noticed.
Anyone else noticing some lag? Are there any settings you've tweaked to minimize this lag?
Thanks!

Recent apps and keyboard have always been slow on Touchwiz unfortunately...so for app switching I use Switchr Pro (amazing app btw) and Google keyboard which is always fast as well. You can turn animations off in developer options but yeah, I used a Moto X 2nd Gen for two weeks and that thing is waaaaay faster and smoother than any Samsung I've ever used but I prefer the features that the S Pen brings so I deal with the occasional lag here and there lol

Thanks for the response Composi. A agree, the software value adds like multi-window and s-pen definitely out-weight the occasional lag. This is my second "Stock" Samsung device (had the S3 years back and g-nex) but my first Note device. I'll try your suggestion and use the google keyboard and check out Switchr Pro. Definitely a fantastic phone though and for the power a features it gives me I'm willing to live with the lag.

I have never experienced this much lag and stutter. It's unfortunate but I am experiencing everything you are...

There's the occasional spastic scrolling in the browser, which I don't get. My Note 3 was pretty bad regarding this and the only browsers that would scroll smoothly were Chrome Beta and Opera. At least with the Note 4 it seems to be mostly gone. Strange though how Samsung can't solve this.
The SMS app also stutters a tiny bit, but the Note 3 stuttered like crazy when scrolling through a long conversation. It's not enough to bother me though with this newest handset.
I don't see the specific issues you mention though, OP.

I definitely notice more lag than I'd like or thought I would be, then I look at my RAM and I'm using up over 2GB of 2.7 GB, that's just background stuff! There's so much background processes running from, well, I don't really know but root would be nice to get rid of some of this crap; I've even disabled a lot of stuff. Whats running:
Quick Connect Interactive
Dropbox
TeslaUndrea
Evernote
com.sec.android.app.Smart
DeviceTest
ClipboardUIService
Direct pen input
Fingerprints
Beam Service
Smartcard service
Context Service
Google Play Service
Google play services
S Finder
S Health
Samsung Push Service
SoundAlive
Google Search
Syncronize
Weather
Facebook
com.sec.android.app.FalshBarservice
MyScript Resource Manager
Smart Remote
SwiftKey

I have also had 2 random reboots in less than 1 day. Maybe disabling bloat messes with things

I only experience lag when I press the recent apps button. Other than that, there isn't any lag on my Note 4.

Since I installed apex launcher I haven't noticed any lag except for a little keyboard lag when inputting the contact I want to text in the messaging app

Do you guys have power saving turned on? If you do check in that settings menu and if you have restrict performance on that turns the processor down at all times. I think that's a bug. If you just turn that part off the phone works great. Spent all night diagnosing that one.

You know what raiu, I do have PowerSaving mode on. I was under the impression that it needed to be toggled on for the auto-enable at x% to work. Turns out it doesn't. I would image this will fix my slight lag issue, and all fix the ridiculously good battery life I have seen since getting the phone.

Tab S 10.5 lag

I've had the Tab S 10.5 for about a month now and the lag while using everyday apps is driving me crazy. My top three offenders are:
1. Chrome
2. Play Newsstand
3. Play Store
I've done the following to help improve things:
- Changed launcher to Nova.
- Disabled bloatware (everything I can without rooting).
- Installed Chrome Samsung support library.
3D heavy games seem to run fine. My last tablet was a HP touchpad running CM11 so I am used to dealing with a few quirks. I stepped up to the Tab S to get away from some of that though. I know Android is infamous for scroll stutter, but it seems to me that a flagship tablet should easily beat out a bootleg touchpad.
Is this on par? Also, does anyone else's tab s get really hot around the touch screen near the Samsung logo? Maybe the Nexus 9 is worth another look. :silly:
Thanks for your comments.
Edit: I've read similar posts on lag. It seems like the argument boils down to: 1. Personal perception or 2. A mysterious "bad batch" of hardware.

i did the same steps,my tab is full of apps and games but i have 0 lag and the browsing is also fcking smooth. In the settings i also turned of features like dual window.
Are you sure you turned off fully power saving mode? About heating,if i play a game like gta or hearthstone i can also feel a warm area under samsung logo but is not hot and pretty common if you play games.
edith and use chrome beta instead of the standard chrome

Chrome lags on the tab s. Happens to most people. To fix over heating i installed a custom kernel that would optimise and prevent heating. Some big games do lag aswell.

thomasovics said:
i did the same steps,my tab is full of apps and games but i have 0 lag and the browsing is also fcking smooth. In the settings i also turned of features like dual window.
Are you sure you turned off fully power saving mode? About heating,if i play a game like gta or hearthstone i can also feel a warm area under samsung logo but is not hot and pretty common if you play games.
edith and use chrome beta instead of the standard chrome
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I am already using chrome beta. The stock broswer is smoother.

can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?

Latiosman said:
can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
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Only on certain apps. Chrome and a few others. On some games it just lags on loading screen but not during gameplay. Watch a veiw reviews on youtube. Theres some videos talking about the lag. Touchwiz launcher also has lag but can be fixed.

Latiosman said:
can you upload a video to see the lag we are talking about?
I want to buy this tablet, and Ive read many posts about lag... but actually, is it very annoying? is there any video to see it?
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I think it depends on your perception of lag and what apps you mainly use. In my case, Chrome and Newsstand are always up so I see the lag constantly. I wish I had a Nexus 9 side by side for comparison. If I get a chance I'll take a video, but it might be hard to see. I played with a demo model at Best Buy and it seemed faster than mine as well.

I came from a iPad mini 2 (last year's model) to this tablet. As smooth as my iPad was I have to say I have very little if any lag on mine. It's runs beautifully for me. I'm OCD, any bit of lag would drive me up the wall. I really don't notice hardly anything. I'm still running bone stock everything minus using Nova launcher. Don't even feel like I need to root or flash anything. Although I'm going to once there is a root released for my model. Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know. Have had zero issues.

I'm used to an overloaded gs3 so this looks ultra smooth to me [emoji3]
It lags more with multiple user logged in, always reboot of you don't need the additional user

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I came from a iPad mini 2 (last year's model) to this tablet. As smooth as my iPad was I have to say I have very little if any lag on mine. It's runs beautifully for me. I'm OCD, any bit of lag would drive me up the wall. I really don't notice hardly anything. I'm still running bone stock everything minus using Nova launcher. Don't even feel like I need to root or flash anything. Although I'm going to once there is a root released for my model. Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know. Have had zero issues.
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For example, this thread's website lags a great deal in chrome beta when scrolling. Other sites aren't too bad. Newsstand is the worst though. Are you using the stock broswer?

This site does lag a little when scrolling. That I do have to admit. For whatever reason it doesn't really bother me however. I've never noticed any scroll stutter on stock android so I attribute it to touchwiz. This thing debloated or running a custom rom probably flys. I imagine any scroll stutter would be gone at that point.
I use the stock browser. I was never a fan of chrome. I know that on touchwiz your going to get the best performance from the stock browser unless there's a fix I'm unaware of which could be a possibility. Newsstand I actually haven't used so I can't speak for it. TouchWiz is just eating up so much ram. I'm like always at 1.5 to 2 gigs of ram with nothing running (other then the tons of unnecessary system apps I can't terminate) That is pretty ridiculous to me. Is touchwiz smooth as stock android? Definitely not. But I really have little to no lag other then scroll stutter on certain sites. I'm still going to root and debloat this thing when it's available for my model so I can truly experience the power of this tablet.

Lol, chrome sucks

It's about time Samsung optimised their flagship device. Had 3 since July and they all lag, stutter when scrolling and render pics poorly. Nova didnt fix the problems and changing some apps like using chrome beta marginally helped.
About time they fixed this via an update rather than just forget about the device and launch more/different models. Samsung will always fail unless it focuses on a core product set and spend the time making the hardware work properly with the software.
I was attacked when I first got my first device for stating lag. Whether an first time user or someone who doesn't want to root (glad I didn't after having 3 replacements), I shouldn't have to kill apps, install different roms and root.
Certain other OS fix problems like these quickly. Where's support from Samsung??
I have the note 4, their es8000 led TV, fridge freezer and various other bits so I'm not a Samsung hater by any means, just someone who expects upgrades to fix problems.

It's hard to determine how much lag is there until you run the same apps side by side with another tablet.
Over Xmas I got a chance to do just that. Ran S 10.5 side by side with my sister's nexus 7 2013. Both running kit kat (hers is 4.4.3 instead of 4.4.2).
Play Store and chrome both run smoother on hers, less jerking and stopping when scrolling. Tapatalk about same. She has Google now launcher, feels faster and smoother than nova launcher on mine. Overall, every thing just feels a little smoother and more fluid.
Granted, the nexus is 1920x1200 so it's pushing fewer pixels around, but the nexus is one year older and I paid $179 for it vs $379 for the S.
I think Samsung slapped on the OLED display and said heh, good enough. Which is true because I bought it

Custom Rom?
I made a rom that is all stock, just a few optimisations. Better performance, better batterylife and so on, here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/prerooted-stock-touchwiz-rom-t2973107

I'd use only stock browser, if it had a full screen option and some gestures, but nope.
My alternative browser is maxthon pioneer, it has everything but stutters a lot

I've had my S 10 since August....I don't like chrome, never have, but after reading all this I opened chrome and came to this forum and I see no issues at all. NONE, other than I don't like chrome
I'm stock not rooted or ROMed. I have Apex launcher installed since day one and disabled all the Samsung and google bloat I could disable.
I have no issues with this tablet other than posting on some forums is a little quirky but that's just the way things are. I normally use Dolphin with the Jetpack or Boat Browser for tablet.
I love this tablet! Sure beats the stuffing out of my Asus TF700T! What a total POC that is!

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I'd use only stock browser, if it had a full screen option and some gestures, but nope.
My alternative browser is maxthon pioneer, it has everything but stutters a lot
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I just throw in a wipe cache once every few days, and stock browser experience is very smooth, even with the second account logged on, with Facebook, dropbox, carousel and plenty other services in background

Don't worry about the Lag
This lag on Tab S is only temporarily, the Android 5.0 will get rid of 90% of the lag. I know this for fact because I have Note 3 with Touch-wiz it lags often, after installing Android 5.0 I have NOT ONCE run into lag after 1 month of using it.
As of now, the Tab S is supporting android 5.0 cm 12 which there should definitely be no lag but again its unofficial ROM as of now, there are still things they are working on. Samsung's android 5.0 will get rid significant amount of lag, because Android 5.0 have 60 fps animation smoothness, and efficient RAM usage.
I've also heard rumors Samsung is working to refreshing their Touchwiz Interface with slim amount of lag. So, the future is promising.
As of now, if you really can't stand the lag, Install the Android 5.0 ROM for Cm 12, there are afew things not working in their such as Camera, NFC or something else, but the usage should show NO LAG!!!

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As of now, if you really can't stand the lag, Install the Android 5.0 ROM for Cm 12, there are afew things not working in their such as Camera, NFC or something else, but the usage should show NO LAG!!!
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Cyanogenmod for Galaxy tab S??