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Hi,
I would like to know how to configure it.
I have in my SD:
1024M for swap
1500M for ext2
5000M for Fat32
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Swap? On a Desire? Don't think you need that, there's plenty of RAM.
So you need to partition your SD card, 512 mB ext3 should be plenty, the rest can be FAT32.
FAT partition must come first.
ok, thank you.
And now how can I enable the A2SD apps ?
raffarein said:
ok, thank you.
And now how can I enable the A2SD apps ?
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Once you have Apps2SD installed and your SD card partitoned correctly, all there is to do is just install your apps and they will be installed to your ext2 partition on your SD card. Use the Quick System Info app from the Marketplace, or see my thread to check if it is working correctly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677073
raffarein said:
Hi,
I would like to know how to configure it.
I have in my SD:
1024M for swap
1500M for ext2
5000M for Fat32
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Way too much swap!! For Desire best is 0 for swap, 512mb for Ext2 and rest for Fat32
is it possible to partition the SD card "outside" the phone?
I got a new SD card I want to use, and the old one is running as ext partition, and the phone spasses out if i swap the 2 cards? so how can I make the external partition so I can install on the new one?
Yes, you could try partitioning by accessing Recovery Mode via your PC while having your phone connected with the USB cable. Use the relevant push files (available for download in my sig from the Nimbu guide) to access Recovery Mode, then you will see an option to partition your SD card. You can set the swap, ext2, and FAT32 space of your SD card and convert it from ext2 to ext3.
As advised above, set your swap to 0 MB, ext2 between 512 MB - 1024 MB (max), and rest of space allocated to the FAT32 partition.
Remember to backup your SD card contents beforehand otherwise you will lose everything through partitioning.
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I'm on r3.1 rom with A2SD+, I'm really pleased with it but I plan to switch to some Froyo rom once htc releases it (with A2SD+ if possible).
What is the proper way to prepare sd card for change of rom ( now I have sd card with standard settings: swap 0 ext2 512 mb fat32 rest).
Do I need to format it again?
The thing that I need to switch between goldcard and my everyday card during the process makes it difficult enough
djoni1980 said:
The thing that I need to switch between goldcard and my everyday card during the process makes it difficult enough
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On the same topic: Is it possible to partition your SD card first and then make it a goldcard so we don't have to switch between cards during rooting and flashing? Thanks..
djoni1980 said:
I'm on r3.1 rom with A2SD+, I'm really pleased with it but I plan to switch to some Froyo rom once htc releases it (with A2SD+ if possible).
What is the proper way to prepare sd card for change of rom ( now I have sd card with standard settings: swap 0 ext2 512 mb fat32 rest).
Do I need to format it again?
The thing that I need to switch between goldcard and my everyday card during the process makes it difficult enough
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With DJ Droid's v1.0 R1 BETA rom (Sense with Froyo), it allows you to partition your SD card the exact same way you had done with the r3.1 rom. I have mine setup with a 0MB swap, ext2 size of 512 MB, and rest to FAT32 partition. To install this rom, it is advised to format your SD card again to get rid of any niggling bugs.
AFAIK, all other Froyo roms (ones without Sense) require you to prepare the SD card differently and not have your SD card partitioned, you need to push via ADB to install your apps to the SD card.
manisa236 said:
On the same topic: Is it possible to partition your SD card first and then make it a goldcard so we don't have to switch between cards during rooting and flashing? Thanks..
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This will not be possible as you need to use the Gold Card to unlock your phone's CID if your phone is network branded. After that, you can root and then flash a rom, and then partition your sd card afterwards.
Thanks for the answers massdroid, you are the most helpful member around
djoni1980 said:
Thanks for the answers massdroid, you are the most helpful member around
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Thank you buddy. I appreciate your kind words
what are the benifets of app2sd???
The title says it all, I was wondering what are the benefits of storing and running your apps from the sd card other then the obviously being able to install more apps then can be stored on the phones internal memory?
Secondly what is the purpose of zipalign? At a very simplistic level I guess it has something to do with optimizing the apk though I am not really sure what this means.
Even with my Sprint CDMA Hero overclocked to 652 (min) & 710 (max) I still find the keyboard to be a bit laggy, will enabling the above help with this at all?
Yep, by installing apps and their associated cache to your SD, it saves you from having to install them directly to internal memory, which would affect the performance of your phone with the more apps you install. With A2SD installed, you basically save storage space and allows your device to run faster.
Also, consider installing a cache cleaner app to free up more space.
Zipalign makes interacting with apps more efficient after they are optimised making them run faster with the Android OS.
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where do performance improvements come from?
MasDroid said:
Yep, by installing apps and their associated cache to your SD, it saves you from having to install them directly to internal memory, which would affect the performance of your phone with the more apps you install. With A2SD installed, you basically save storage space and allows your device to run faster.
Also, consider installing a cache cleaner app to free up more space.
Zipalign makes interacting with apps more efficient after they are optimised making them run faster with the Android OS.
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I have seen the benchmark tests showing the speed improvements but I don't really see how changing the location of where the apps are installed to would necessarily improve the performance of their execution, I mean the phone's internal storage is separate from the phone's internal ram. Are there fragmentation issues or something when it comes to running the apps from the smaller internal storage vs the larger external storage of the sd card?
I think this question was asked previously but I didn't see an answer for it; when app2sd is set up, when you start installing new apps do they automatically get zipaligned and then installed to the sd card or do you have to do it manually?
Hmm.... i think you have a point there and i agree with what you are saying. With A2SD, i don't think it improves performance since it's ROM space, not RAM, that these apps are occupying. The main advantage of A2SD is having more dedicated space for storage of apps.
Since the 1.6 SDK was released, i think the ADT does this automatically on APK export. Therefore any app which has been updated since ~September (and was developed using the ADT Eclipse plugin) will be zipalign'd.
You can also do this manually, see this link:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/zipalign-easy-optimization.html
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I have just seven apps on my desire and it say I don't have more place , what else more than app are on entire disk which I can clean for I get more place . I have desire rooted with 16gb SD card
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Are you using A2SD+? Or this is the internal memory?
I have problem with internal memory
What are more things are on the memory I can delete
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Unless you are S-OFF, you can only delete the things you've installed by yourself or move them to the SD Card (Non_A2SD+).
What do u mean s off
I mean the apps is about 50 mb what happened with 200 mb
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Stock ROM? Rooted? More info please.
i dont which rom i didnt change the rom but it´s rooted
i have app 2 sd and under movable idont have any app to move
under phone only there are 6 apps
adobe flash player 11.29 MB
Maps 11.09MB
Gmail 4.52 MB
Market 3 MB
Bank 1.94MB
Street view 604 kb
and the total is 147.62 MB
what are the rest ?
if anyone can help me pls?
I´m not very high
THANK U
Probably cache & Other non-app related stuff.
Also, if you don't have A2SD+ (not App2SD), then some applications will be on Internal memory even after moved to the SD card.
xXx8004 said:
I have just seven apps on my desire and it say I don't have more place , what else more than app are on entire disk which I can clean for I get more place . I have desire rooted with 16gb SD card
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I am not an android expert, but you do need app2sd or data2sd to fix this.
Any 3rd party rom with those X2sd supported can let you extend your limited phone storage. I don't know the android system file structure at all but here is the general idea.
i. App2sd
This will install the apps (most of them) on your sd card, but the data, I think, still remains on your phone internal storage. Your system should be very fast as normal even with low class sd card (most of the time I think :-0 ).
ii. Data2sd
This is a little bit tricky, it requires you to format your sd card and make use of the sd card instead of your internal phone storage for the operating system. You generally get an unlimited store, it depends on how much memory you allocated for the system, also you need a higher class sd card as better.
iii. Data2sd mixed mode
This is the best solution for me . it moves almost all to the sd card but some part of the system with more i/o on the phone internal storage (actually symlinks point back to the device on sd card). This will make the system fast (faster than pure data2sd), extended the phone storage a lot, but still limited to the phone internal storage (better than app2sd though)
Again, this is just my understanding. I haven't looked into Android in depth yet, but I will one day I have enough time
You can found the ROMs and almost everything you need from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916417
Really appreciated the people who did the job there.
I have app 2 SD
I fixed partition ex2 to move the apps but I can't see ext2 partition
Must I have app2sd+ , where can download it.
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Create at least EXT3 with more than 512 MB.
You don't have the option anywhere, to move to the EXT partition, it is automatically done by the script.
To see your EXT partition you must use TI Backup (Shows only as A2SD+) or GParted.
Ok not ext2
I have tried with ex2 it doesn't work , should I have swipe ?
I will do it with Linux
Which Rom do u think is best now ?
Where can I download a2sd+ ?
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A2SD+ is not a program, it is a script. Included in the ROMs.
Look around in the Desire Android Developement Section for ROMs and pick one you like. Most of them have A2SD+.
Do some reading... rooting guides include all the information you need
I will format the SD and try to found some Rom with a2sd+
Why desire have very little memory it should be 2 or 4 gb
Thank everyone and I will be back with feedbAck
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No brainer... Data2SD !
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This has always been a problem with my desire until i found out about AlphaRev. Now i've got 166MB free internal space. My suggestion is to install AlphaRev and modify the partition tables as listed in the tutorial on alpharev.nl. I would have posted a link but i can't post links yet.
i downloaded RCMIxHD_v3.4_ROT_D2EXT_RC1 and made a parttion ext3 and now work perfect.
Thank u everybody
Hello all
ive had a good read at alot of resources, but cant seem to find one answer, so here it goes...
i have a new 16gb class 10 card.
whats best way to partition the card?
ok ok i no it all depends on how much space i want for apps and music etc, but as a basic...
lets assume with a 16gb you get full 16gb, (when really it will be 15gb)
so would this be best way to have it partitioned for my desire,
12gb FAT32, 4GB ext4 , 0swap ??
more info - aim to be always using Oxygen
what do you plan to use the EXT4 partition for? I'm total noob, but been reading a lot. One of the recurring recommendations (app2sd, data2sd) seems to be to use max 2GB EXT partition for stability.
(but perhaps you know better )
I partitioned my 8GB card the other day using the soft (MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition) recommended here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=SD_card_partitioning
Most people seem to recommend Gparted as the ultimate partition manager, but then you need Linux or a LiveCD, and I was too tired to make one of those.
4GB ext for what? lol
1GB is more than enough, and 2 - only you manage to fill up, if you download the whole market
And also some scripts do not support ext partition > 2gb.
As already said, 1GB for ext4 is far enough ! Swap is not very usefull.
Use gparted method...very easy n very safe.....
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superliam said:
Hello all
ive had a good read at alot of resources, but cant seem to find one answer, so here it goes...
i have a new 16gb class 10 card.
whats best way to partition the card?
ok ok i no it all depends on how much space i want for apps and music etc, but as a basic...
lets assume with a 16gb you get full 16gb, (when really it will be 15gb)
so would this be best way to have it partitioned for my desire,
12gb FAT32, 4GB ext4 , 0swap ??
more info - aim to be always using Oxygen
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I use EASEUS Partition Master Professional Edition, with this you can create ext3.
In recovery you can convert ext3 to ext4 or you can partrition sd card only ext2 and ext3 and then convert ext2 to ext3 or ext3 to ext4.
For me easeus works great and easy to use.
I've been moving my Apps to SD as often as possible and I have been running with about 24mb of free internal space.
Now Google+ is here and it wont go to SD I have 11MB and that annoying low space icon is sat in my notification bar taunting me.
Does this partitioning thing trick the phone into using the SDcard as if it were internal memory?
i'd use AmonRA to partition it. no need to fiddle with gparted. everything is done internally.
olly230 said:
I've been moving my Apps to SD as often as possible and I have been running with about 24mb of free internal space.
Now Google+ is here and it wont go to SD I have 11MB and that annoying low space icon is sat in my notification bar taunting me.
Does this partitioning thing trick the phone into using the SDcard as if it were internal memory?
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That all depends on what ROM u are running.. I use CM7 and a little app from market called s2e which moves all apps to partition
Other ROMs like GingerBurst use app2sd+ or data+ which do basically the same thing but built into the ROM
If you're using standard android app2sd u will always run out of space in no time
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olly230 said:
I've been moving my Apps to SD as often as possible and I have been running with about 24mb of free internal space.
Now Google+ is here and it wont go to SD I have 11MB and that annoying low space icon is sat in my notification bar taunting me.
Does this partitioning thing trick the phone into using the SDcard as if it were internal memory?
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Oh and yes the partitioning tricks the handset into thinking the SD ext is internal storage with app2sd+ etc
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I think the best way is with the magic seach button just use one of the MANY guides
I agree. Search gparted and you will find step by step instructions. Follow them and its simple.
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for the pro member here, what is more effective? move2sd or link2sd
base on free memory and performance .. tnx
Personally... NONE
Use Titanium's backup batch option and move the apps that you want to your sd card
really? none? why?
IMO, link2sd is good (since i havent tried move2sd), since it moves lib and dex files too. i think titanium only moves the apk file, isnt it?
do anyone tried data2sd?
Move 2 SD usually moves internal memory installed app to sd and it is very effective if you have low internal memory left.
I use "DroidSail Super Move 2 SD" it is free on market and does what I need.
I have already moved unnecessary apps that does not needed to be installed on internal/phone memory, for ex: Facebook,Twitter etc.
If you find difficulties for using this app PM me...
If you find this post helpful/useful click "Thanks".
ROM ToolBox + App2SD = Awesome
Link2sd+root+2nd partition is great
App2sd for non root phone is great
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Link2sd is great..i havent tried move2sd.
Actually yea. Romtolbox+apps2sd - cool im using it
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how to increase Ram on SGG
i googled and got to know that for swapping we need a custom kernal
i am using GENXT ODEX ROM 4.1.2, which kernal will be available for my phone...??
what are alternate solutions for increasing my RAM..??
king_of_grand said:
how to increase Ram on SGG
i googled and got to know that for swapping we need a custom kernal
i am using GENXT ODEX ROM 4.1.2, which kernal will be available for my phone...??
what are alternate solutions for increasing my RAM..??
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You can not increase your RAM. It's tied to hardware, so unless you're skilled enough to mess with the phone's electronic board, it is not possible.
If you're talking about internal memory (sdcard0) there are many ways to free up some space in it, one of them is using Link2SD. You don't need a custom kernel, you just need to repartition your SD card.
have you heard swapping
naufalhadyan said:
You can not increase your RAM. It's tied to hardware, so unless you're skilled enough to mess with the phone's electronic board, it is not possible.
If you're talking about internal memory (sdcard0) there are many ways to free up some space in it, one of them is using Link2SD. You don't need a custom kernel, you just need to repartition your SD card.
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have you heard of swapping...!!
with the help of swapping we can increase RAM from MMC
swapping cannot be done on default kernal.....hope u know that
Download An app,Ram expandar.It doesn't actually increase the ram instead,uses some of part of your sd card (swaping) as virtual ram.
Nonetheless there's always an option of downloading ram boosters
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You can also flash a custom rom for better ram optimisation
If i helped,don't forget to hit the THANKS button
My devices:Sony Xperia Sola(rooted)
Samsung Galaxy Ace(rooted)
Odys Next(rooted)
king_of_grand said:
have you heard of swapping...!!
with the help of swapping we can increase RAM from MMC
swapping cannot be done on default kernal.....hope u know that
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Alright I just read some old threads about this... It basically involves creating a swap partition on the SD card and use it as a secondary memory aside from RAM... It's similar to pagefile in Windows and swap partition in Ubuntu/Linux desktop.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
It will decrease your SD card life though (and probably damage/corrupt it) because SD cards are not designed for frequent and temporary read and write, it has limited read and write lifetime, while with the RAM this RW lifetime is much better than SD card.
Also, from what I'm seeing so far... swapping is more suitable for old Android versions (2.3 or lower) with low RAM (256 MB or lower). Android 4.0+ has improved memory management and there's really no need for a swap partition, thus why you more likely need a task killer on older Android (2.3-), but it is not recommended to use one on newer Android (4.0+). Even Kitkat runs fine on a 512MB device.
What sort of memory-eating app are you planning to use on your phone?
naufalhadyan said:
Alright I just read some old threads about this... It basically involves creating a swap partition on the SD card and use it as a secondary memory aside from RAM... It's similar to pagefile in Windows and swap partition in Ubuntu/Linux desktop.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
It will decrease your SD card life though (and probably damage/corrupt it) because SD cards are not designed for frequent and temporary read and write, it has limited read and write lifetime, while with the RAM this RW lifetime is much better than SD card.
Also, from what I'm seeing so far... swapping is more suitable for old Android versions (2.3 or lower) with low RAM (256 MB or lower). Android 4.0+ has improved memory management and there's really no need for a swap partition, thus why you more likely need a task killer on older Android (2.3-), but it is not recommended to use one on newer Android (4.0+). Even Kitkat runs fine on a 512MB device.
What sort of memory-eating app are you planning to use on your phone?
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you are very much right...!!
but my grand is using 600mb out of 800mb
and i have class 10 sd card so it was ok with me
and my phone is getting much slower so i want to expand my ram
TheAmaze said:
Download An app,Ram expandar.It doesn't actually increase the ram instead,uses some of part of your sd card (swaping) as virtual ram.
Nonetheless there's always an option of downloading ram boosters
If i helped,don't forget to hit the THANKS button
My devices:Sony Xperia Sola(rooted)
Samsung Galaxy Ace(rooted)
Odys Next(rooted)
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Ram Expander Not working on default kernal
it is saying this kernal doesnt support swapping
king_of_grand said:
you are very much right...!!
but my grand is using 600mb out of 800mb
and i have class 10 sd card so it was ok with me
and my phone is getting much slower so i want to expand my ram
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Adding a swap partition is not preferable because SD cards have slower R/W speeds compared to RAM, even if you have a class 10. And a "class 10" card means it has the best R/W speed, but it doesn't mean having longer R/W life.
Actually high RAM usage on Android is not always bad. Some parts of the RAM is used for caching so that you will run the apps faster compared to not having the cache. This is similar to the SUPERFETCH on Windows Vista and up. RAM usage does not always mean worse battery life, but CPU usage does.
Also... have you tried Greenify and see if it helps? Also if you can live without dual SIM, try one of the Kitkat ROMs, it removed lags completely for me.
Ok no problem!
By the way,which phone do you have?
You can easily flash an older or newer Kernel or maybe a custom one,for your phone,if you have a Sony Smartphone then flash through flashtool
Note:flashing Kernel doesn't wipe any data
Currently we don't have a swap supported kernel
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Swap is useless IMHO
Your SDCard will probably suffer if you use it
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