Memory problem - Desire General

I have just seven apps on my desire and it say I don't have more place , what else more than app are on entire disk which I can clean for I get more place . I have desire rooted with 16gb SD card
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Are you using A2SD+? Or this is the internal memory?

I have problem with internal memory
What are more things are on the memory I can delete
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Unless you are S-OFF, you can only delete the things you've installed by yourself or move them to the SD Card (Non_A2SD+).

What do u mean s off
I mean the apps is about 50 mb what happened with 200 mb
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Stock ROM? Rooted? More info please.

i dont which rom i didnt change the rom but it´s rooted
i have app 2 sd and under movable idont have any app to move
under phone only there are 6 apps
adobe flash player 11.29 MB
Maps 11.09MB
Gmail 4.52 MB
Market 3 MB
Bank 1.94MB
Street view 604 kb
and the total is 147.62 MB
what are the rest ?
if anyone can help me pls?
I´m not very high
THANK U

Probably cache & Other non-app related stuff.
Also, if you don't have A2SD+ (not App2SD), then some applications will be on Internal memory even after moved to the SD card.

xXx8004 said:
I have just seven apps on my desire and it say I don't have more place , what else more than app are on entire disk which I can clean for I get more place . I have desire rooted with 16gb SD card
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I am not an android expert, but you do need app2sd or data2sd to fix this.
Any 3rd party rom with those X2sd supported can let you extend your limited phone storage. I don't know the android system file structure at all but here is the general idea.
i. App2sd
This will install the apps (most of them) on your sd card, but the data, I think, still remains on your phone internal storage. Your system should be very fast as normal even with low class sd card (most of the time I think :-0 ).
ii. Data2sd
This is a little bit tricky, it requires you to format your sd card and make use of the sd card instead of your internal phone storage for the operating system. You generally get an unlimited store, it depends on how much memory you allocated for the system, also you need a higher class sd card as better.
iii. Data2sd mixed mode
This is the best solution for me . it moves almost all to the sd card but some part of the system with more i/o on the phone internal storage (actually symlinks point back to the device on sd card). This will make the system fast (faster than pure data2sd), extended the phone storage a lot, but still limited to the phone internal storage (better than app2sd though)
Again, this is just my understanding. I haven't looked into Android in depth yet, but I will one day I have enough time
You can found the ROMs and almost everything you need from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916417
Really appreciated the people who did the job there.

I have app 2 SD
I fixed partition ex2 to move the apps but I can't see ext2 partition
Must I have app2sd+ , where can download it.
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Create at least EXT3 with more than 512 MB.
You don't have the option anywhere, to move to the EXT partition, it is automatically done by the script.
To see your EXT partition you must use TI Backup (Shows only as A2SD+) or GParted.

Ok not ext2
I have tried with ex2 it doesn't work , should I have swipe ?
I will do it with Linux
Which Rom do u think is best now ?
Where can I download a2sd+ ?
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A2SD+ is not a program, it is a script. Included in the ROMs.
Look around in the Desire Android Developement Section for ROMs and pick one you like. Most of them have A2SD+.

Do some reading... rooting guides include all the information you need

I will format the SD and try to found some Rom with a2sd+
Why desire have very little memory it should be 2 or 4 gb
Thank everyone and I will be back with feedbAck
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No brainer... Data2SD !
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This has always been a problem with my desire until i found out about AlphaRev. Now i've got 166MB free internal space. My suggestion is to install AlphaRev and modify the partition tables as listed in the tutorial on alpharev.nl. I would have posted a link but i can't post links yet.

i downloaded RCMIxHD_v3.4_ROT_D2EXT_RC1 and made a parttion ext3 and now work perfect.
Thank u everybody

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How to use A2SD?

Hi,
I would like to know how to configure it.
I have in my SD:
1024M for swap
1500M for ext2
5000M for Fat32
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Swap? On a Desire? Don't think you need that, there's plenty of RAM.
So you need to partition your SD card, 512 mB ext3 should be plenty, the rest can be FAT32.
FAT partition must come first.
ok, thank you.
And now how can I enable the A2SD apps ?
raffarein said:
ok, thank you.
And now how can I enable the A2SD apps ?
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Once you have Apps2SD installed and your SD card partitoned correctly, all there is to do is just install your apps and they will be installed to your ext2 partition on your SD card. Use the Quick System Info app from the Marketplace, or see my thread to check if it is working correctly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677073
raffarein said:
Hi,
I would like to know how to configure it.
I have in my SD:
1024M for swap
1500M for ext2
5000M for Fat32
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Way too much swap!! For Desire best is 0 for swap, 512mb for Ext2 and rest for Fat32
is it possible to partition the SD card "outside" the phone?
I got a new SD card I want to use, and the old one is running as ext partition, and the phone spasses out if i swap the 2 cards? so how can I make the external partition so I can install on the new one?
Yes, you could try partitioning by accessing Recovery Mode via your PC while having your phone connected with the USB cable. Use the relevant push files (available for download in my sig from the Nimbu guide) to access Recovery Mode, then you will see an option to partition your SD card. You can set the swap, ext2, and FAT32 space of your SD card and convert it from ext2 to ext3.
As advised above, set your swap to 0 MB, ext2 between 512 MB - 1024 MB (max), and rest of space allocated to the FAT32 partition.
Remember to backup your SD card contents beforehand otherwise you will lose everything through partitioning.
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I'm on r3.1 rom with A2SD+, I'm really pleased with it but I plan to switch to some Froyo rom once htc releases it (with A2SD+ if possible).
What is the proper way to prepare sd card for change of rom ( now I have sd card with standard settings: swap 0 ext2 512 mb fat32 rest).
Do I need to format it again?
The thing that I need to switch between goldcard and my everyday card during the process makes it difficult enough
djoni1980 said:
The thing that I need to switch between goldcard and my everyday card during the process makes it difficult enough
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On the same topic: Is it possible to partition your SD card first and then make it a goldcard so we don't have to switch between cards during rooting and flashing? Thanks..
djoni1980 said:
I'm on r3.1 rom with A2SD+, I'm really pleased with it but I plan to switch to some Froyo rom once htc releases it (with A2SD+ if possible).
What is the proper way to prepare sd card for change of rom ( now I have sd card with standard settings: swap 0 ext2 512 mb fat32 rest).
Do I need to format it again?
The thing that I need to switch between goldcard and my everyday card during the process makes it difficult enough
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With DJ Droid's v1.0 R1 BETA rom (Sense with Froyo), it allows you to partition your SD card the exact same way you had done with the r3.1 rom. I have mine setup with a 0MB swap, ext2 size of 512 MB, and rest to FAT32 partition. To install this rom, it is advised to format your SD card again to get rid of any niggling bugs.
AFAIK, all other Froyo roms (ones without Sense) require you to prepare the SD card differently and not have your SD card partitioned, you need to push via ADB to install your apps to the SD card.
manisa236 said:
On the same topic: Is it possible to partition your SD card first and then make it a goldcard so we don't have to switch between cards during rooting and flashing? Thanks..
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This will not be possible as you need to use the Gold Card to unlock your phone's CID if your phone is network branded. After that, you can root and then flash a rom, and then partition your sd card afterwards.
Thanks for the answers massdroid, you are the most helpful member around
djoni1980 said:
Thanks for the answers massdroid, you are the most helpful member around
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Thank you buddy. I appreciate your kind words
what are the benifets of app2sd???
The title says it all, I was wondering what are the benefits of storing and running your apps from the sd card other then the obviously being able to install more apps then can be stored on the phones internal memory?
Secondly what is the purpose of zipalign? At a very simplistic level I guess it has something to do with optimizing the apk though I am not really sure what this means.
Even with my Sprint CDMA Hero overclocked to 652 (min) & 710 (max) I still find the keyboard to be a bit laggy, will enabling the above help with this at all?
Yep, by installing apps and their associated cache to your SD, it saves you from having to install them directly to internal memory, which would affect the performance of your phone with the more apps you install. With A2SD installed, you basically save storage space and allows your device to run faster.
Also, consider installing a cache cleaner app to free up more space.
Zipalign makes interacting with apps more efficient after they are optimised making them run faster with the Android OS.
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where do performance improvements come from?
MasDroid said:
Yep, by installing apps and their associated cache to your SD, it saves you from having to install them directly to internal memory, which would affect the performance of your phone with the more apps you install. With A2SD installed, you basically save storage space and allows your device to run faster.
Also, consider installing a cache cleaner app to free up more space.
Zipalign makes interacting with apps more efficient after they are optimised making them run faster with the Android OS.
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I have seen the benchmark tests showing the speed improvements but I don't really see how changing the location of where the apps are installed to would necessarily improve the performance of their execution, I mean the phone's internal storage is separate from the phone's internal ram. Are there fragmentation issues or something when it comes to running the apps from the smaller internal storage vs the larger external storage of the sd card?
I think this question was asked previously but I didn't see an answer for it; when app2sd is set up, when you start installing new apps do they automatically get zipaligned and then installed to the sd card or do you have to do it manually?
Hmm.... i think you have a point there and i agree with what you are saying. With A2SD, i don't think it improves performance since it's ROM space, not RAM, that these apps are occupying. The main advantage of A2SD is having more dedicated space for storage of apps.
Since the 1.6 SDK was released, i think the ADT does this automatically on APK export. Therefore any app which has been updated since ~September (and was developed using the ADT Eclipse plugin) will be zipalign'd.
You can also do this manually, see this link:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/zipalign-easy-optimization.html
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[Q] Amount of free memory is draining away although I moved everything to SD Card

Hi,
I have rooted froyo 2.2 with App2Sd enabled and always move everything that possible to the Sd card. In spite of that, I have only 20Mb free space left (I use Android System info app). I have 8GB 6class samsung Sd card and did the partitions as said in guides.
how can I have more space to install more apps or I stuck and just have to decide what important and what not ?
Thanks.
what App2SD?
The native Froyo one or the App2SD+?
The native Froyo one does not move the whole app. Just take a look in the app listing and you'll see how much space it occupies on the internal RAM and how much it occupies on the SD card. You also can't move every app, e.g. no widgets.
The App2SD+ moves all apps to the SD-Card, including cache. But even then the more apps you install the less internal memory is available. That's because of a process I don't exactly remember Some apps unpack stuff which gets copied to the internal data partition, and I don't talk about the cache. Don't know for sure, but you should find it with the search.
When I check the app2sd ver. It doesn't shows the. + Symbol so I guess that it is a regular one. Can you give me a link to the plus version?
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Lior84 said:
When I check the app2sd ver. It doesn't shows the. + Symbol so I guess that it is a regular one. Can you give me a link to the plus version?
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?? how shall you check the App2SD Version. You either use the + one, by using an EXT2/3 partition and a proper ROM and not moving the apps manually, it gets done automatically, or you use the Froyo one, by moving each app manually to the SD card in the app settings.
To get APPS2SD+ you need a properly set EXT2/3 partition and then flash a ROM supporting it (like Leedroid if you like a Sense ROM, or DeFrost, Opendesire if you like an AOSP ROM), that's it.

Help needed Leedroid and run out of space???

Rooted desire, running leedroid 2.3c, ext 3 partition 1 gb.
Free space apps2sd+ 614mb, Free space internal storage 14 mb.
Got the above and now when trying to update apps and install new ones the message comes up insufficient space!
Any ideas why? Also I moved some large apps to SD and no change to free space only reduced from apps2sd+....
Is it possible to move apps from internal storage to apps2sd+ ?
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You could maybe try the data2whereever script if you have a fast enough sd card. I have been using that and my desire shows 1gb internal storage and 14gb sd.
I used the life-on-the-edge script too to speed it up and its lightning fast. my benchmark tests show way faster than nexus one 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867049&page=72
There is a bug with life-on-the-edge script which causes reboots now and then so you may want to just use the data2whereever without it. I found it made a big enough difference to warrant the odd reboot.
So super fast AND 1gb internal memory, its all 100% SD card.
Thanks will try that tonight
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[Q] how should i create my partitions?

Hello all
ive had a good read at alot of resources, but cant seem to find one answer, so here it goes...
i have a new 16gb class 10 card.
whats best way to partition the card?
ok ok i no it all depends on how much space i want for apps and music etc, but as a basic...
lets assume with a 16gb you get full 16gb, (when really it will be 15gb)
so would this be best way to have it partitioned for my desire,
12gb FAT32, 4GB ext4 , 0swap ??
more info - aim to be always using Oxygen
what do you plan to use the EXT4 partition for? I'm total noob, but been reading a lot. One of the recurring recommendations (app2sd, data2sd) seems to be to use max 2GB EXT partition for stability.
(but perhaps you know better )
I partitioned my 8GB card the other day using the soft (MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition) recommended here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=SD_card_partitioning
Most people seem to recommend Gparted as the ultimate partition manager, but then you need Linux or a LiveCD, and I was too tired to make one of those.
4GB ext for what? lol
1GB is more than enough, and 2 - only you manage to fill up, if you download the whole market
And also some scripts do not support ext partition > 2gb.
As already said, 1GB for ext4 is far enough ! Swap is not very usefull.
Use gparted method...very easy n very safe.....
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superliam said:
Hello all
ive had a good read at alot of resources, but cant seem to find one answer, so here it goes...
i have a new 16gb class 10 card.
whats best way to partition the card?
ok ok i no it all depends on how much space i want for apps and music etc, but as a basic...
lets assume with a 16gb you get full 16gb, (when really it will be 15gb)
so would this be best way to have it partitioned for my desire,
12gb FAT32, 4GB ext4 , 0swap ??
more info - aim to be always using Oxygen
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I use EASEUS Partition Master Professional Edition, with this you can create ext3.
In recovery you can convert ext3 to ext4 or you can partrition sd card only ext2 and ext3 and then convert ext2 to ext3 or ext3 to ext4.
For me easeus works great and easy to use.
I've been moving my Apps to SD as often as possible and I have been running with about 24mb of free internal space.
Now Google+ is here and it wont go to SD I have 11MB and that annoying low space icon is sat in my notification bar taunting me.
Does this partitioning thing trick the phone into using the SDcard as if it were internal memory?
i'd use AmonRA to partition it. no need to fiddle with gparted. everything is done internally.
olly230 said:
I've been moving my Apps to SD as often as possible and I have been running with about 24mb of free internal space.
Now Google+ is here and it wont go to SD I have 11MB and that annoying low space icon is sat in my notification bar taunting me.
Does this partitioning thing trick the phone into using the SDcard as if it were internal memory?
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That all depends on what ROM u are running.. I use CM7 and a little app from market called s2e which moves all apps to partition
Other ROMs like GingerBurst use app2sd+ or data+ which do basically the same thing but built into the ROM
If you're using standard android app2sd u will always run out of space in no time
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olly230 said:
I've been moving my Apps to SD as often as possible and I have been running with about 24mb of free internal space.
Now Google+ is here and it wont go to SD I have 11MB and that annoying low space icon is sat in my notification bar taunting me.
Does this partitioning thing trick the phone into using the SDcard as if it were internal memory?
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Oh and yes the partitioning tricks the handset into thinking the SD ext is internal storage with app2sd+ etc
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I think the best way is with the magic seach button just use one of the MANY guides
I agree. Search gparted and you will find step by step instructions. Follow them and its simple.
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Confused with swap

I got a 16GB class, 10 memory card. I made a partition if 1gb and 0mb swap. Is that correct? What does the swap really help with?
I tried Google but couldn't really understand it properly. Someone can explain it to me in layman's terms? ^_^
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That's a good size. Now install data2sd by jikanturu and you have more internal memory.
good enough?
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I tried link2sd. It says no space left on the phone. :S
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Royal King said:
I tried link2sd. It says no space left on the phone. :S
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then reinstall it or try data2sd.
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Link?
Can you provide the link to Data2SD? All the ones I found were deleted off of mediafire D:
Search Data2SDInstallerNXE2.zip and you'd get your desired thing on androidforums.com
Else pm me your email and I'd send you the zips....
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Swap is fake ram. With class 10 SD card you had to use at least 128mb-256mb because wfs have only 512mb ram
Don't bother with swap, you don't need it. Swap is just using disk space as RAM. But since the SD card is significantly slower than RAM (even if it is a class 10), you won't be having a good time. I've got like 120 apps installed on my phone and I still have 100+MB of RAM available. You don't need swap. As for sd-ext, don't bother with all the many different scripts, the easiest way is just to download S2E from the Play Store, it does it all for you
do we need swap? http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Swap_and_Compcache
It's up to your choice.
my sdcard has 128mb swap.
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dudeman1996 said:
Don't bother with swap, you don't need it. Swap is just using disk space as RAM. But since the SD card is significantly slower than RAM (even if it is a class 10), you won't be having a good time. I've got like 120 apps installed on my phone and I still have 100+MB of RAM available. You don't need swap. As for sd-ext, don't bother with all the many different scripts, the easiest way is just to download S2E from the Play Store, it does it all for you
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Hi, I have a 4GB (Class 10) memory card. (872 MB -Ext4 Partition, 700 MB -Linux Swap and 2300 MB on Standard Partition) and using Link2SD. I have installed 30 apps and got only 45MB internal memory left.
But I see you got more internal memory.
1. How is this possible?
2. Can I now move on to S2E? If yes then how?
Thanks.
Senthamil said:
Hi, I have a 4GB (Class 10) memory card. (872 MB -Ext4 Partition, 700 MB -Linux Swap and 2300 MB on Standard Partition) and using Link2SD. I have installed 30 apps and got only 45MB internal memory left.
But I see you got more internal memory.
1. How is this possible?
2. Can I now move on to S2E? If yes then how?
Thanks.
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The best way to do it would be to backup all your apps and data with titanium backup, then reinstall your rom from scratch. Make your sd-ext partition bigger if you wish, then install S2E, let it mount your sd-ext and then restore everything with titanium backup.
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