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I can't take it anymore! I'm sick and tired of waiting for multi view update. This is absolutely ludicrous how we were the first US carrier with the Note 2 and the last with the update. So u know what? I rooted my phone today and loaded the Jedi Rom with multi view on it. At first I was one of those that wanted to keep everything stock, as I truly love this phone. It had everything I wanted except for the multi view. Im so glad I did this! Now I have multi view with all the apps. Awesome! This has truly opened up so many more possibilities. The only downfall at the moment is wifi calling. But I can live without.
So what say u dear fellow Note 2 owners? Are u guys tired of waiting or do u have extreme patience and are happy as Is?

melvnx said:
I can't take it anymore! I'm sick and tired of waiting for multi view update. This is absolutely ludicrous how we were the first US carrier with the Note 2 and the last with the update. So u know what? I rooted my phone today and loaded the Jedi Rom with multi view on it. At first I was one of those that wanted to keep everything stock, as I truly love this phone. It had everything I wanted except for the multi view. Im so glad I did this! Now I have multi view with all the apps. Awesome! This has truly opened up so many more possibilities. The only downfall at the moment is wifi calling. But I can live without.
So what say u dear fellow Note 2 owners? Are u guys tired of waiting or do u have extreme patience and are happy as Is?
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I'm coming to same conclusion..will likely order by Thursday for Friday delivery & install Jedi ROM Saturday..
How much time should a noob set aside to: root, install Jedi X ROM & are you considering Perseus kernel for exfat?
I've got link instructions for root & Jedi X install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34900851&postcount=33 but what about installing Perseus kernel?
Probably would have bought the T-Mobile Note2 weeks ago if it had multi-view (but this ROM looks better than what T-Mobile will come up with)
-Thnx

Besides multi view what else did it get you? And is paper artist along with the other s-pen apps working? Other than music programs I didnt see anything built into either jedi that made it a must have. Did I miss something?
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I rooted this phone as soon as I got it out the box.
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mdt73 said:
Besides multi view what else did it get you? And is paper artist along with the other s-pen apps working? Other than music programs I didnt see anything built into either jedi that made it a must have. Did I miss something?
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Tethering. Multi view is pretty important. Also debloated...which is nice. S-pen apps work too, which is very important.
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mdt73 said:
Besides multi view what else did it get you? And is paper artist along with the other s-pen apps working? Other than music programs I didnt see anything built into either jedi that made it a must have. Did I miss something?
*Signature blocks shouldn't default to free advertising.*
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Ive flashed roms since day one with this thing. Just root. Have an official stock back up and flash away. With the 7105 rom by cmnerd it has multiview and everything os fuly functional. Also aloy smoother I experienced lag with tmobiles stock firmware. Idk but if ur holding back I wouldnt. And the jedi roms are legit and smooth. Plus I got the aosp theme looking so fresh.
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I held out for the first 3 weeks...until certain things with the stock rom started to irrate me...lol but one day I snapped and rooted and flashed jedi x lol...just cause
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I didn't know you were allowed to be on xda and not have a rooted phone. or have an android for that matter jk

Im in the same boat I have N2 for about two weeks and im holding out for official ota. I tought ota wouldnt be that far away. I might just break today and do it as I usually do with all my previous phones, just tought N2 would be the exception
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Just do it. Multi window is awesome. Jedi ROM is smooth and completely stable. Worst case go back to stock.
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Rooted!! I totally agree with you.
I did the same thing about 3 weeks ago.I Rooted and I am running Jedi X 5 with multi-window feature and all of the other features that accompany rooting.:laugh:

Ok im doing it u guys push me to it
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I'll root but I need wifi calling. Friday will make 2 weeks with the device. I can hold off for a couple of months if need be.

bryanthomas007 said:
I did the same thing about 3 weeks ago.I Rooted and I am running Jedi X 5 with multi-window feature and all of the other features that accompany rooting.:laugh:
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I really like the features of this device Id never seen or atleast known about and don't really want to lose those functionalities. So , my question is .
Do you lose Spen functionality and / or Spen apps such as snote , drawing ect , Sbeam or say ability to swipe your hand over the proximity sensor to see the time and date on a sleeping device? Or any other note / note 2 exclusive features in jedi x romS?

Some_dude36 said:
I really like the features of this device Id never seen or atleast known about and don't really want to lose those functionalities. So , my question is .
Do you lose Spen functionality and / or Spen apps such as snote , drawing ect , Sbeam or say ability to swipe your hand over the proximity sensor to see the time and date on a sleeping device? Or any other note / note 2 exclusive features in jedi x romS?
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you only lose wifi calling theres a stock n7105 rom thats like the stock tmobile one except theres no wifi calling instead you get multi window and faster speeds but all the features and all bloat apps are there just like stock heres the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027923

Had it since release but have been patiently waiting for the ota because I lost my imei on my S3 and am afraid the same thing will happen to my precious GN2.
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Im holding off from rooting, cause im one of those ones who daily use ISIS, and loving every momenrlt of it!
There's something Jedi like, paying for things just by tapping my phone at the register.
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melvnx said:
I can't take it anymore! I'm sick and tired of waiting for multi view update. This is absolutely ludicrous how we were the first US carrier with the Note 2 and the last with the update. So u know what? I rooted my phone today and loaded the Jedi Rom with multi view on it. At first I was one of those that wanted to keep everything stock, as I truly love this phone. It had everything I wanted except for the multi view. Im so glad I did this! Now I have multi view with all the apps. Awesome! This has truly opened up so many more possibilities. The only downfall at the moment is wifi calling. But I can live without.
So what say u dear fellow Note 2 owners? Are u guys tired of waiting or do u have extreme patience and are happy as Is?
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I'm surprised you waited so long. I waited all of 1 day to root simply to make sure all the radios and speakers in the phone worked to be sure I didn't have to exchange my phone for another.

Any way to get wifi calling with the jedi rom? Wifi is a must for me.
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tq745 said:
Any way to get wifi calling with the jedi rom? Wifi is a must for me.
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Jedi Master roms have wifi calling.
Jedi X roms have multi-view.
You gotta pick one :victory:

Was rooted jedi cleanrom and jellythunder now stock

I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Its all peraonal preference my friend. Its your phone. Do what you want to with it:thumbup:
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mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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One of the best thing about custom roms is that you get all the goodies before the updates that sometimes come months later if at all.For me,when I flash a custom rom on my android device it finally becomes mine.Until then you are literally AT&T/Verizon's etc,etc,etc *****.With all that useless crap on your phone that is forced on you without a choice.I personally like to have full control over what is on my device especially because now a days these "toys" cost as much as my laptop.Again,my personal preference.If anything I would try to talk you into re-rooting.LOL
p.s I am running cleanRom and it is absolutely the bees knees.

technut said:
One of the best thing about custom roms is that you get all the goodies before the updates that sometimes come months later if at all.For me,when I flash a custom rom on my android device it finally becomes mine.Until then you are literally AT&T/Verizon's etc,etc,etc *****.With all that useless crap on your phone that is forced on you without a choice.I personally like to have full control over what is on my device especially because now a days these "toys" cost as much as my laptop.Again,my personal preference.If anything I would try to talk you into re-rooting.LOL
p.s I am running cleanRom and it is absolutely the bees knees.
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Amen. The battery life, at least in my experience, is unquestionably superior on Jedi vs stock, and i fought hardddd to stay stock like constantly diagnosing wake locks and battery usage.

Or you can flash a different kernel
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mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Well...duh...did you honestly expect something better than what you had ? Did you suddenly expect a pushed update from AT&T to offer you a better experiance than those 3 custom roms ? Ease of updates...? I don't get it...Are you actually trying to say relying on a OTA update is easier than actually flashing a new update yourself ? Are you saying waiting and waiting and hoping you get a good ota download and it flashes properly for you..is better than being able to flash and being able to reflash if you actually need it ?
Sorry if I sound rude...but come on...get real would you...You knew the benifits going in and why you rooted it and flashed them..and now you want folks to paint a all rosey picture that a full blown unrooted phone is better than a rooted one running those 3 custom roms...Sorry...it ain't going to happen unless it is coming from someone who didn't install something correctly..or just perfers the bloat and limitations of a stock phone..
If you want & like the stock feel and look...flash Scott's AT&T special edition of his Clean rom..It's debloated..and he has linked to some theming for it..
If you want to go way beyond..wait for Truth's new one out later today or tommorrow..It's fully themed..debloated..has all the latest & greatest available..is fast..and everything works on it..What more could you want...
Personally...I won't ever run a stock phone on purpose after the allowable return time for it..Triangle away has removed the worry of returning it for service..and TWRP has made flashing anything a non issue as well..
It's your phone..run it the way you want to..and be happy..but please don't ask on a developers forum to be convinced to stay on a stock rom..that is just plain lame...IMHO
Mac

I know exactly what you mean and I did feel the same way. Samsung has done an amazing job with this phone. However I have used Jedi, miscoms international roms, cleanrom, now on cleanatt. I have found with a on a custom kernel either persus or the aslyum/note2core. As long as I undervolted and didn't over clock my battery life was a lot better than stock and phone was much quicker and responsive over stock and still had all the great features. We have some awesome devs here for roms and kernels. To me is a very hard choice on what rom to stay on as well as kernel. They are all amazing in there own ways and in my opinion all awesome. I hope no devs flame me I'm just saying they are all very intelligent people at this and I see great things in all there work. AS FOR NOW. I'm on Scotts dedicated at&T. I have took around 40 user and system apps that "I" consider bloat and running persus kernel with the profile zip of 2 offered. My battery life is insane. All day of heavy use and still about 70perecnt left after 8 hours or so. Hope I may have helped you or someone else. I love open source
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I have been over clocked to 1800 and above on Jedi and pulled over 2 days off charger with over 8 hours screen time. If you want to stick with stock look, Clean Special build and definitely a kernel. They pull the debugging crap out, optimize voltages, etc. Kernel devs have been working magic...and finding bugs that Sammy, HTC, missed
Edit...patiently waiting for that Blackout later today.
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mrklc1974 said:
... considering going back to cleanrom... .... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Well...if you want to stay stock...you could try disabling various stock apps that you don't need via settings:app mgr...it's hard to hurt anything and you can always re-able them.
other than that
I think updates are "cleanrom" are pretty easy. Named "clean..." for a reason and I feel like it's stock with added benefits. Have fun deciding.

mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Custom rom always. I ran my Note 2 stocked for 2 days and could not stand it. I had to because I was out of town for those 2 days. I suggest you load the Jelly Thunder Blackout 3.0 ROM asap. You'll love it.

I bought a second one white this time just got this reason. One to root to death and one totally stock. Just got the ota on the stock one and already miss tapatalk in the multi window. Once the allshare bug gets fixed universally (built into ROM) I think they both will be rooted
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Jelly thunder is where its at the dark theme is everywhere

The reason it goes full screen on some apps is because not all apps work with half screen. Not stock anyway.
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just_visiting said:
Custom rom always. I ran my Note 2 stocked for 2 days and could not stand it. I had to because I was out of town for those 2 days. I suggest you load the Jelly Thunder Blackout 3.0 ROM asap. You'll love it.
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running that since day one! Jedi didn't play some of my videos so didn't use it! Plus blackout is what you want. Much better!
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Jelly thunder is where its at the dark theme is everywhere
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Agree 100%, geared for the older folks on xda. Lol
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Yeah im running jelly thunder on my note 2. But some reason its model is galaxy nexus.. but im loving roms. Come back to the dark side. Less bloat ware. And everything you need on your phone.
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808shorty said:
Yeah im running jelly thunder on my note 2. But some reason its model is galaxy nexus.. but im loving roms. Come back to the dark side. Less bloat ware. And everything you need on your phone.
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Well u did not follow complete instructions on installing the rom. You will be running into problems if u don't fix asap.

Ever going to get 4.1.2 ??

I I was going to ask if were ever going to get 4.2 but seeing as were are the only carrier to not have 4.1.2 yet we ever going to get that?

4.2 Available
Some_dude36 said:
I I was going to ask if were ever going to get 4.2 but seeing as were are the only carrier to not have 4.1.2 yet we ever going to get that?
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The Phone Came w/ Stock 4.1.2
4.2 Is Already Available w/ Builds Of AOSP, AOKP, and CMX.1 For Our Phones! (N7105, T889, I317, T889v)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108762

Cgkingpin said:
The Phone Came w/ Stock 4.1.2
4.2 Is Already Available w/ Builds Of AOSP, AOKP, and CMX.1 For Our Phones! (N7105, T889, I317, T889v)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108762
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I only got stock 4.1.1 is urs the International?
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horr1blek1tten said:
I only got stock 4.1.1 is urs the International?
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I Have T889, You Might Be Correct w/ 4.1.1.
Either Way, There Are Multiple 4.1.2 AND 4.2 Rom's Available

Cgkingpin said:
The Phone Came w/ Stock 4.1.2
4.2 Is Already Available w/ Builds Of AOSP, AOKP, and CMX.1 For Our Phones! (N7105, T889, I317, T889v)
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No the phone came with 4.1.1 and my question is for stock factory 4.2 and / or 4.1.2 rooting and custom roms always have something that doesnt work and this is the first factory rom I didnt feel the need to change . I just dont understand why its taking so long to even get 4.1.2 when all other carriers already have it. I heard some tmo employee on here say jan 19 wed get 4.1.2 and still nothing.

Never understood difference from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 to 4.2 o.o
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Galaxysm said:
Never understood difference from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 to 4.2 o.o
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all I care about in 4.2 is photosphere 360 degree 40mb pics

Some_dude36 said:
No the phone came with 4.1.1 and my question is for stock factory 4.2 and / or 4.1.2 rooting and custom roms always have something that doesnt work and this is the first factory rom I didnt feel the need to change . I just dont understand why its taking so long to even get 4.1.2 when all other carriers already have it. I heard some tmo employee on here say jan 19 wed get 4.1.2 and still nothing.
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After a lot of reading and much consideration, I rooted my Note 2 a few days ago.
I can tell you the Custom ROM I decided to use, Jedi X9, is much better than stock, faster, more fluid and tons of extra features.
I over clocked the note to 1800 MHz using ROM Toolbox Pro.
The Quadrant scores went up to 7700 from 6300 stock. Antutu Bench Mark went to 19300 from 18100.
With 4.1.2 update, you get to have the posted notes in the Calendar.
With the custom ROM you get 23 Toggles, more menus and settings you can change.
You can do Multi Windows any APK and also have the Transparent Multi-Windows.
The browser is lots faster.
I also was able to delete the stock Youtube and install the custom Youtube APK that lets you play full
720p videos.
Lots more things to mention.
Best part is everything works and no hick ups what so ever.
So if that is what is stoping you, take it from me, it works 150 percent better than stock.
And if you do not like it, you can go back to stock and leave no trace like if nothing ever happened.
Hope that helps you some :good:.

maniep said:
After a lot of reading and much consideration, I rooted my Note 2 a few days ago.
I can tell you the Custom ROM I decided to use, Jedi X9, is much better than stock, faster, more fluid and tons of extra features.
I over clocked the note to 1800 MHz using ROM Toolbox Pro.
The Quadrant scores went up to 7700 from 6300 stock. Antutu Bench Mark went to 19300 from 18100.
With 4.1.2 update, you get to have the posted notes in the Calendar.
With the custom ROM you get 23 Toggles, more menus and settings you can change.
You can do Multi Windows any APK and also have the Transparent Multi-Windows.
The browser is lots faster.
I also was able to delete the stock Youtube and install the custom Youtube APK that lets you play full
720p videos.
Lots more things to mention.
Best part is everything works and no hick ups what so ever.
So if that is what is stoping you, take it from me, it works 150 percent better than stock.
And if you do not like it, you can go back to stock and leave no trace like if nothing ever happened.
Hope that helps you some :good:.
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You just convinced me to root my new note *.*
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So is there a ota? For tmobile note 2 because im on 4.1.1 and ive seen people talk abouy 4.1.2 and ive been trying to see if there is a update well anyways im just waiting for tmobile to lunch the update for 4g lte service
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Galaxysm said:
You just convinced me to root my new note *.*
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damnit ..... me too :highfive::good: Can we have the 4.2 camera for x9 ?

maniep said:
After a lot of reading and much consideration, I rooted my Note 2 a few days ago.
I can tell you the Custom ROM I decided to use, Jedi X9, is much better than stock, faster, more fluid and tons of extra features.
I over clocked the note to 1800 MHz using ROM Toolbox Pro.
The Quadrant scores went up to 7700 from 6300 stock. Antutu Bench Mark went to 19300 from 18100.
With 4.1.2 update, you get to have the posted notes in the Calendar.
With the custom ROM you get 23 Toggles, more menus and settings you can change.
You can do Multi Windows any APK and also have the Transparent Multi-Windows.
The browser is lots faster.
I also was able to delete the stock Youtube and install the custom Youtube APK that lets you play full
720p videos.
Lots more things to mention.
Best part is everything works and no hick ups what so ever.
So if that is what is stoping you, take it from me, it works 150 percent better than stock.
And if you do not like it, you can go back to stock and leave no trace like if nothing ever happened.
Hope that helps you some :good:.
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Thanks for sharing, I personally still concern that mine is a t889v and that things may mess up and that not too many support I can get from here to help fix... I think I will still wait for now...
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Who prefers to stay on STOCK?????

i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.

This thread belongs in the Q&A forum, not the General forum. (Also, your '?' key seems to be stuck.)

Gary02468 your number lock seems to be stuck. Qt pie.

I am kinda in that boat
I just got my note2 and have since flashed recovery / and clean rom however I tend to like sticking stockish till I know the water temp so to speak. I tried to just do the root with out changing the counter but OTA's killed my root. Hence the twrp and clean rom...
I just cant win... heh.

rayoubi said:
i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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Nice to see an iphone user do the swap
I gotta say its awesome to see an iPhone user move on over.

I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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chris82o said:
I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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And it seems that there's no"." key on your iphone.

rayoubi said:
i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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On many phones I have stayed on stock for stability and feature set. In many cases when you go to another rom (especially AOSP) you lose TW features, S-Pen, etc... and in many cases I find not everything is 100%
That said the Note II development is fantastic. Many of the TW based roms give you everything you get with stock, but with more. AOSP you lose the TW feature set but it is amazingly stable and fast with a whole lot of other features.
With my S3 I could not find a single rom that I did not have problems on, but with the Note II I have a harder time deciding WHICH rom to use :good:

chris82o said:
I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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C.Flat said:
I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I agree with this guy. Even with my acer liquid mt when I rooted it and used the leaked gingerbread rom for it, the camera (which i use a lot got messed up and would over expose the pictures to white messes of garbage) and I noticed that after switching back to the normal stock rom with root, the camera would screw the video with red green and blue lines...gross I know...
And plus, just like my old ipod touch 2g (which doesnt work cuz the battery is dead. big surprise CRapple) it looked as normal as it should, but behind the curtain, the device was screaming at me to stop, every little tweak, hack, or anything I could do to the device. (Except install android on it because the project cut off 2Gs)
So what im saying is, its more fun to screw with the stock app.
Dont like the boatware?
Download a root app uninstaller.
Dont like anything about most devices?
Someone else doesnt like it either, and theyre smarter than you and figured out how to change that.
Root all stock roms.
Maybe one day, they will have an option to come rooted and unlocked.
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For me 1st time I'm on stock. I like it and don't see a need for change I did root it. On my SGS the minute I go it I put a rom on it.
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I did until I discovered PA battery life. Been 5 hours of fair use, mostly as a media player, connected to data. Battery is still at 84%
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I hate stock as soon as another ROM handles all I want. I have a toddler. I need camera function. As soon as cm10 fixed it a week ago. I will never go back to stock again. Only 2 features I miss are page buddy and mhl. Page buddy probably can be modded in though
I love the new features they keep adding instead of stock. And I love a 150meg download instead of 700meg
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The lack of mhl in cm or aokp keep me on stock based roms
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The same day I purchased my Note 2, I had it rooted and has TWRP installed on it. Day 2 I was flashing roms. I guess I just really like to tinker with my phones, because where was nothing wrong with stock!

C.FLAT, "I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy"
If you are that concerned with the camera features working why not flash a ROM like Scrosler's CLEAN ROM ATT SE. It made from ATT base. Completely stock without the bloatware. Everything works perfectly and you are not at the mercy of your carrier to recieve OTA's instead your at Scroslers lol. But seriously, I would much rather get/wait for updates from a DEV here on XDA (Where I can talk directly to the DEV and or people in the thread also using the ROM) instead of waiting for carriers to take forever and you can't directly talk to the team of people who made the Official ROM . So for me if you want stock look and feel with no bloatware and is more customizable than actual stock I would go with a ROM based or made from complete stock base. Just my 2 cents

Slow motion on jedi
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stock miscom
skifreek said:
So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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besides the excellent support miscom. Thanks miscom

I'm on stock cause I got no reason to be otherwise. Everything works as intended, and the so-called "bloatware" is in reality a complete non-issue.

Stock rom discussion!

Let's talk about the stock rom!
What day out like about it and what. You don't like about it, and how you made. It better!
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I am sticking with the unrooted stock Rom for now. I am using an awesome, though not perfect, launcher called Next 3D Launcher.
Stock rom is what you would expect from a stock rom. Laggy at times but it could be my settings. The main reason why I am sticking with it is because of mixed results with rooting the MDL firmware. Users reported issues with WIFI and DATA connections. I can't seem to figure out whether these issues are due to rooting, MDL firmware, kernel, and noob mistakes. As soon as there is a unanimous confirmation of the main cause of these connections issues and a fix is posted I will be rooting.
The stock ROM, IMHO, is good enough and is perfect as a daily-driver. A lot of bloatwares and cannot be uninstalled.

gingson said:
I am sticking with the unrooted stock Rom for now. I am using an awesome, though not perfect, launcher called Next 3D Launcher.
Stock rom is what you would expect from a stock rom. Laggy at times but it could be my settings. The main reason why I am sticking with it is because of mixed results with rooting the MDL firmware. Users reported issues with WIFI and DATA connections. I can't seem to figure out whether these issues are due to rooting, MDL firmware, kernel, and noob mistakes. As soon as there is a unanimous confirmation of the main cause of these connections issues and a fix is posted I will be rooting.
The stock ROM, IMHO, is good enough and is perfect as a daily-driver. A lot of bloatwares and cannot be uninstalled.
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Couldn't have said it better myself!
The stock rom is perfect the way it is, but about the thing you said about rooting
I never heard of that before, but from my experience, I did not have issues when I rooted
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kevinrubio1 said:
Couldn't have said it better myself!
The stock rom is perfect the way it is, but about the thing you said about rooting
I never heard of that before, but from my experience, I did not have issues when I rooted
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Check this thread about the WIFI issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268880&page=6

gingson said:
Check this thread about the WIFI issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268880&page=6
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Quoted the wrong person
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Stock ROM is okay for now. Lte works and you can use Wi-Fi to make phone calls and text. I change the launcher to Nova and call it good.
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kevinrubio1 said:
Quoted the wrong person
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I wasn't quoting a person, I was directing your attention to a page where you will find WiFi issues.
Anyway, I wished that I could debloat the stock Rom without rooting.

Rooting should not affect functionality of your phone. And then you can just flash an entire stock rom already debloated.
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This stock rom pisses me off...cuz its so damn solid I have little reason to flash others! I like the Google edition Roms, but the lack of WiFi calling on those keeps me coming back to this one. Rooted, using Nova, and I haven't had any major problems. Performance has been great, especially after the usual adjustments.

PostMeridianLyf said:
Rooting should not affect functionality of your phone. And then you can just flash an entire stock rom already debloated.
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I tend to agree with you but, what you do after you achieve root is the start of when things get crazy. Sometimes we tend to abuse the freedom of removing and adding stuff and then your phone becomes an object with a character of its own. That's when we start wondering why we have problems while others do not. Yes we make our phones become individuals. They become like pets.

GREAT
GREATT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Can anyone please provide link to latest TW Stock Rooted Rom? I can't find it anywhere.

stock ROM is fixed for s4 mobiles .Stock ROM is okay for now. Let works and you can use Wi-Fi to make phone calls and text. its a necessary for s4 mobile and it can be expandable.

Stock is important for GS4 .Stock ROM is okay for now. I change the launcher to Nova and call it good.
you try for works and you can use Wi-Fi to make phone calls and text.thanks by...........................................