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Will you run AOSP, AOKP, or CM?

I know i cant wait to have stock android on my note 2. How do others feel?

I feel the same way i which aocp would be ported or paranoid or miui i am desperate i check everyday
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Yeah im sick of looking in task manager and seeing all the crap running even after i removed bloatware. Mfgs really screw up the android experience. Cant wait for a stock android based rom.

I personally like all the extras that touch wiz has added on THIS phone. Normally I would run pure stock but I'm happy with this phone out of the box. It helps that everything I don't need or use I can go in and disable and not worry about it running or using ram. I'm personally stock, not rooted and content. First phone ever that I didn't feel the need to root. Just my opinion.
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awrnsmn said:
I personally like all the extras that touch wiz has added on THIS phone. Normally I would run pure stock but I'm happy with this phone out of the box. It helps that everything I don't need or use I can go in and disable and not worry about it running or using ram. I'm personally stock, not rooted and content. First phone ever that I didn't feel the need to root. Just my opinion.
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Actually i feel the same way you do bro.. first phone that I've had for 2 weeks now and it hasn't been rooted yet... i just like the way the phone is.. it pretty much has everything i need are want right now...
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I'm having a hard time waiting for Paranoid.
This phone feels incomplete without it.

I love aosp and aokp, but in Galaxy Nexus. Why would i use that when i loose all functionality of S-pen? When i don't have true multitasking?

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I love aosp and aokp, but in Galaxy Nexus. Why would i use that when i loose all functionality of S-pen? When i don't have true multitasking?
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Exactly, I already own Gnex and N7. I'm fully aware of what AOSP roms are capable of. No way I want any of those roms installed on my Note 2. I bought this because I wanted all those features that's tied into Spen. This phone would be very bad without the stock features. If I wanted stock experience, I would've waited for Nexus 4 or stayed with my Gnex. I've been rom hopping for last 2 years and now I just want something that's good enough.
I have to admit, it becomes like an addiction. I would be looking for new roms and rom updates constantly everyday.

Im over touchwiz...I would luv to run cm10 or paranoid on this beast of phone.or miui would be real nice too...
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psn1819 said:
Im over touchwiz...I would luv to run cm10 or paranoid on this beast of phone.or miui would be real nice too...
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use a different launcher. I use Nova and I love it. I hardly see touchwiz and I still get all the spen features.

teshxx said:
I love aosp and aokp, but in Galaxy Nexus. Why would i use that when i loose all functionality of S-pen? When i don't have true multitasking?
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There are cherrypicks you can do with AOKP right now that gives apparently full functionality to the S-Pen.

deaffob said:
Exactly, I already own Gnex and N7. I'm fully aware of what AOSP roms are capable of. No way I want any of those roms installed on my Note 2. I bought this because I wanted all those features that's tied into Spen. This phone would be very bad without the stock features. If I wanted stock experience, I would've waited for Nexus 4 or stayed with my Gnex. I've been rom hopping for last 2 years and now I just want something that's good enough.
I have to admit, it becomes like an addiction. I would be looking for new roms and rom updates constantly everyday.
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Same here I'm always looking for rom updates.
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Iv already given up the s-pen. If it could hit the captive buttons then i would thinkbits great but needing to use the pen and your fingers to fully navigate the phone it anoying...

Joe333x said:
Iv already given up the s-pen. If it could hit the captive buttons then i would thinkbits great but needing to use the pen and your fingers to fully navigate the phone it anoying...
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You know there are gestures that the pen can do to imitate the back and the menu button right?
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Naah I like the stock ROM and its features and stock Android will never have Wi-Fi calling which is something I must have with work so I'll never put it on this phone

Wifi calling is great but it's voice is a dinosaur.
I'm using the multi window rom and installed 4.2 Gapps.
Used the 4.2 launcher then switched to Go for the eye candy. Still maintain the S-pen while having 4.2 camera, gallery, ect AND sCal, sGallery and others.
Battery seems to be on par with stock Touchwiz, 40% after 15.5 hours, and 2.5hours screen time.
Still not sure how useful multi window is but I do agree Paranoid and the note2 were meant to be together.

first phone that im actually keeping stock!!! Phone runs smooth and with no problems.... aosp and aokp just seem.......pretty boring now. I do wish to have the nexus navigation on screen bar.

For the advanced users(we know who we are) AOSP will be great I can't wait. It's pointless now a days to not have AOSP it's best to start clean then add what you want free up all the space/ram and have the latest updates. I came from S3 and wanted the quad core, 5.5, and RGB s-pen can stay docked for all I care. When it comes it will be great!
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There are cherrypicks you can do with AOKP right now that gives apparently full functionality to the S-Pen.
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Really?
Is it available for our Note II?

Testicopolicious said:
Really?
Is it available for our Note II?
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No. The were added as the original note got support for aokp, once aokp (which cmenard is currently working on) is available for our device that functionality could be added, if it hasn't been merged by then.
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(q) true tablet/hybrid mode/mod

Is there tru tablet/hybrid mode mod or anything other then playing with dpi's and flashing crap load of mods?
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Jsarge45 said:
Is there tru tablet/hybrid mode mod or anything other then playing with dpi's and flashing crap load of mods?
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Wait for a port of paranoid android:beer::thumbup:
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I have been and a leaked 4.1.2 too. No other option im guessing? Anything from slll work on our note 2
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Jsarge45 said:
I have been and a leaked 4.1.2 too. No other option im guessing? Anything from slll work on our note 2
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We won't have too many ROM options, besides AOSP and TouchWiz, until CM10 is officially released. It's out for the international version, but only time will tell how long it takes to reach our version of the device.
If you want to take a giant risk, go ahead and flash ParanoidAndroid for the international version, but it'll probably hard-brick your device.

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We won't have too many ROM options, besides AOSP and TouchWiz, until CM10 is officially released. It's out for the international version, but only time will tell how long it takes to reach our version of the device.
If you want to take a giant risk, go ahead and flash ParanoidAndroid for the international version, but it'll probably hard-brick your device.
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Hard Brick? If this were Wikipedia I'd tag that with [Citation Needed]
I agree it will probably make it non-functional, but I find it hard to believe it's something that restoring an original sprint partition wouldn't fix.

aramova said:
Hard Brick? If this were Wikipedia I'd tag that with [Citation Needed]
I agree it will probably make it non-functional, but I find it hard to believe it's something that restoring an original sprint partition wouldn't fix.
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Maybe so, but I've heard stories of people hard-bricking their devices by flashing kernels made for different devices.

If anyone really wants this type of ROM, go to TMO GN2 forums and look at DaGR8s ROM. Or join #saurom on freenode. I asked if he could bring it over but he would rather have me maintain it but I know zero when it comes to modifying stock roms, smali, etc lol.
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Arent there issues flashing zips from 7100 at&t and tmobile on sprint. I know Verizon is somewhat similar to sprint?
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No I dont mean to flash the TMO version lol. I meant like port all the features to a stock deodexed rom for our device. Thing is, I have no experience with touchwiz so I couldnt do it. He's looking for someone to maintain it for our device.
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Sorry but im bit of a nooby to all this but I learn very fast. This is mt first rooted phone so I dont know any rules but im not ignorant to boundaries. I did install Andrea kitchen thing but haven't had time to play. I just really like tablet mode and dont like other variants having doin way more mods and roms, lol
I think today im goona mod back case for wireless. Im also coming for htc (evo 4g) and note 2 samsung is like beyond super user friendly.
So im not sure what you mean by porting and maintaining...
I hear great things about CM and paranoid android and am eager to get them on my note2
Currently running mac rom 2.1 with alpha kernal and crap load of mods.
As spoken from Morpheus, "how deep does the rabbit hole go"
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Jsarge45 said:
Is there tru tablet/hybrid mode mod or anything other then playing with dpi's and flashing crap load of mods?
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No offense, but I don't understand what you're asking. I say this because Android 4 is the same on phones and tablets. I have ASUS Transformer Infinity (TF700T) and this phone, and both are running Android 4.1. The difference are more device specific about screen size and particular hardware.
The mods I've seen are more about squeezing more functionality out the device, such a WiFi tether and mutli-app. They don't bring a more tablet experience than what the device already is in my use thus far.

Youtube hybrid tablet mode on note2 or look up paranoid android. You'll see what I mean/layout
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Jsarge45 said:
Youtube hybrid tablet mode on note2 or look up paranoid android. You'll see what I mean/layout
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Your cruelty knows no bonds. Making me search, LOL. Took me a while to find something that showed it. Most just videos on found on Youtube left in the ROM(s) in phone phone mode. This one showed it best that I was able find first.
But yes, I get it now. The sad part, only a few apps I use really have tablet interfaces. I like a similar interface across devices if possible. Although, it would be nice if K9 had a tablet UI. But I digress....

Haha sorry.
Yea I meam to me with 5.5 inch screen its more tabletized to me so why not exploit it more. **** if you advertise it as a "phablet" then why not send it with the optionm?!
I keep trying
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I like the idea of picking some apps to use in Tablet form. NFL Game Pass has a good tablet app; but I believe it's designed for 10" tablets, not the small ones such as Nexus 7. I like Chrome's interface on the tablet over the phone as well.
I have the ASUS Transformer Inifinity. Needless, some apps are interesting with their user interface.
Unfortunately, most apps on Android are still designed for the phone interface. As Android tablet get more popular, we'll see design interface incorporate the larger screens.
At the moment, I'm just happy to have a larger screen so I can see without having to zoom everything.

I hear ya but im constantly in settings and everywhere else hitting the back button a lot. Would be nice to have it all on 1 screen. Im gonna try and port PA. I would of bought or stayed with my evo. I want to see just how far I can take this lil big thing.
Was at wedding Saturday night and whipped it out & the table was in ahh at phone. Mostly iphoners. They were jaw dropped. Just wish I had hybrid mode to make them faint. Lol
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Jsarge45 said:
I hear ya but im constantly in settings and everywhere else hitting the back button a lot. Would be nice to have it all on 1 screen. Im gonna try and port PA. I would of bought or stayed with my evo. I want to see just how far I can take this lil big thing.
Was at wedding Saturday night and whipped it out & the table was in ahh at phone. Mostly iphoners. They were jaw dropped. Just wish I had hybrid mode to make them faint. Lol
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I tried talking to the developer of PA, and all he said was to wait for CM10 to come out.
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My coworker saw my GN2 and I heard a "GOD DAMN!!!!" Another coworker (Sprint GS3) and I like to tease another about his iPhone4 since he complains a lot about it.
Yea, the settings is a nicer setup on my tablet. Switching tasks is a lot faster too. I just hit one button instead of holding it down. But I like this phone's recent task list. It actually closes the programs. I really like the clear memory option too. Why they can't incorporate a clear cache, is beyond me, but something I would like in that menu area.

Im so impatient. I want to buy n7100 just to flash it. Lol but I guess I'll have too
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I was just in version playin wit DNA and it feels like im on gingerbread. Ran quadrant. 8000...
Couldnt play vids but I wasnt impressed.
Yea switching tasks is becoming cumbersome especially when im not driving but yea I get looks and ahh's everytime it comes out. Was recently at an indoor waterpark resort in PA mts and there was starbucks in there. 1st time I paid the baristas where like, hell yea a screen I can read bar code. Couple workers few days later where like, ah your the guy with the note 2? Can we see it.. lol
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Was rooted jedi cleanrom and jellythunder now stock

I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Its all peraonal preference my friend. Its your phone. Do what you want to with it:thumbup:
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mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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One of the best thing about custom roms is that you get all the goodies before the updates that sometimes come months later if at all.For me,when I flash a custom rom on my android device it finally becomes mine.Until then you are literally AT&T/Verizon's etc,etc,etc *****.With all that useless crap on your phone that is forced on you without a choice.I personally like to have full control over what is on my device especially because now a days these "toys" cost as much as my laptop.Again,my personal preference.If anything I would try to talk you into re-rooting.LOL
p.s I am running cleanRom and it is absolutely the bees knees.

technut said:
One of the best thing about custom roms is that you get all the goodies before the updates that sometimes come months later if at all.For me,when I flash a custom rom on my android device it finally becomes mine.Until then you are literally AT&T/Verizon's etc,etc,etc *****.With all that useless crap on your phone that is forced on you without a choice.I personally like to have full control over what is on my device especially because now a days these "toys" cost as much as my laptop.Again,my personal preference.If anything I would try to talk you into re-rooting.LOL
p.s I am running cleanRom and it is absolutely the bees knees.
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Amen. The battery life, at least in my experience, is unquestionably superior on Jedi vs stock, and i fought hardddd to stay stock like constantly diagnosing wake locks and battery usage.

Or you can flash a different kernel
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mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Well...duh...did you honestly expect something better than what you had ? Did you suddenly expect a pushed update from AT&T to offer you a better experiance than those 3 custom roms ? Ease of updates...? I don't get it...Are you actually trying to say relying on a OTA update is easier than actually flashing a new update yourself ? Are you saying waiting and waiting and hoping you get a good ota download and it flashes properly for you..is better than being able to flash and being able to reflash if you actually need it ?
Sorry if I sound rude...but come on...get real would you...You knew the benifits going in and why you rooted it and flashed them..and now you want folks to paint a all rosey picture that a full blown unrooted phone is better than a rooted one running those 3 custom roms...Sorry...it ain't going to happen unless it is coming from someone who didn't install something correctly..or just perfers the bloat and limitations of a stock phone..
If you want & like the stock feel and look...flash Scott's AT&T special edition of his Clean rom..It's debloated..and he has linked to some theming for it..
If you want to go way beyond..wait for Truth's new one out later today or tommorrow..It's fully themed..debloated..has all the latest & greatest available..is fast..and everything works on it..What more could you want...
Personally...I won't ever run a stock phone on purpose after the allowable return time for it..Triangle away has removed the worry of returning it for service..and TWRP has made flashing anything a non issue as well..
It's your phone..run it the way you want to..and be happy..but please don't ask on a developers forum to be convinced to stay on a stock rom..that is just plain lame...IMHO
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I know exactly what you mean and I did feel the same way. Samsung has done an amazing job with this phone. However I have used Jedi, miscoms international roms, cleanrom, now on cleanatt. I have found with a on a custom kernel either persus or the aslyum/note2core. As long as I undervolted and didn't over clock my battery life was a lot better than stock and phone was much quicker and responsive over stock and still had all the great features. We have some awesome devs here for roms and kernels. To me is a very hard choice on what rom to stay on as well as kernel. They are all amazing in there own ways and in my opinion all awesome. I hope no devs flame me I'm just saying they are all very intelligent people at this and I see great things in all there work. AS FOR NOW. I'm on Scotts dedicated at&T. I have took around 40 user and system apps that "I" consider bloat and running persus kernel with the profile zip of 2 offered. My battery life is insane. All day of heavy use and still about 70perecnt left after 8 hours or so. Hope I may have helped you or someone else. I love open source
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I have been over clocked to 1800 and above on Jedi and pulled over 2 days off charger with over 8 hours screen time. If you want to stick with stock look, Clean Special build and definitely a kernel. They pull the debugging crap out, optimize voltages, etc. Kernel devs have been working magic...and finding bugs that Sammy, HTC, missed
Edit...patiently waiting for that Blackout later today.
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mrklc1974 said:
... considering going back to cleanrom... .... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Well...if you want to stay stock...you could try disabling various stock apps that you don't need via settings:app mgr...it's hard to hurt anything and you can always re-able them.
other than that
I think updates are "cleanrom" are pretty easy. Named "clean..." for a reason and I feel like it's stock with added benefits. Have fun deciding.

mrklc1974 said:
I rooted and installed custom roms just for multi Window bit decided to unroot when the ota AT&T update for multi window came out... since then I noticed a decent amount of batt decrease and a slighr lag here and there... considering going back to cleanrom... also noticed that pulling a app over from multiwindow bar sometimes only allows full screen not half.... please someone talk me out of it... I do like stock for ease of updates etc...
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Custom rom always. I ran my Note 2 stocked for 2 days and could not stand it. I had to because I was out of town for those 2 days. I suggest you load the Jelly Thunder Blackout 3.0 ROM asap. You'll love it.

I bought a second one white this time just got this reason. One to root to death and one totally stock. Just got the ota on the stock one and already miss tapatalk in the multi window. Once the allshare bug gets fixed universally (built into ROM) I think they both will be rooted
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Jelly thunder is where its at the dark theme is everywhere

The reason it goes full screen on some apps is because not all apps work with half screen. Not stock anyway.
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just_visiting said:
Custom rom always. I ran my Note 2 stocked for 2 days and could not stand it. I had to because I was out of town for those 2 days. I suggest you load the Jelly Thunder Blackout 3.0 ROM asap. You'll love it.
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running that since day one! Jedi didn't play some of my videos so didn't use it! Plus blackout is what you want. Much better!
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Jelly thunder is where its at the dark theme is everywhere
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Agree 100%, geared for the older folks on xda. Lol
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Yeah im running jelly thunder on my note 2. But some reason its model is galaxy nexus.. but im loving roms. Come back to the dark side. Less bloat ware. And everything you need on your phone.
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808shorty said:
Yeah im running jelly thunder on my note 2. But some reason its model is galaxy nexus.. but im loving roms. Come back to the dark side. Less bloat ware. And everything you need on your phone.
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Well u did not follow complete instructions on installing the rom. You will be running into problems if u don't fix asap.

Who prefers to stay on STOCK?????

i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.

This thread belongs in the Q&A forum, not the General forum. (Also, your '?' key seems to be stuck.)

Gary02468 your number lock seems to be stuck. Qt pie.

I am kinda in that boat
I just got my note2 and have since flashed recovery / and clean rom however I tend to like sticking stockish till I know the water temp so to speak. I tried to just do the root with out changing the counter but OTA's killed my root. Hence the twrp and clean rom...
I just cant win... heh.

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i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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Nice to see an iphone user do the swap
I gotta say its awesome to see an iPhone user move on over.

I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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chris82o said:
I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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And it seems that there's no"." key on your iphone.

rayoubi said:
i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
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On many phones I have stayed on stock for stability and feature set. In many cases when you go to another rom (especially AOSP) you lose TW features, S-Pen, etc... and in many cases I find not everything is 100%
That said the Note II development is fantastic. Many of the TW based roms give you everything you get with stock, but with more. AOSP you lose the TW feature set but it is amazingly stable and fast with a whole lot of other features.
With my S3 I could not find a single rom that I did not have problems on, but with the Note II I have a harder time deciding WHICH rom to use :good:

chris82o said:
I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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C.Flat said:
I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I agree with this guy. Even with my acer liquid mt when I rooted it and used the leaked gingerbread rom for it, the camera (which i use a lot got messed up and would over expose the pictures to white messes of garbage) and I noticed that after switching back to the normal stock rom with root, the camera would screw the video with red green and blue lines...gross I know...
And plus, just like my old ipod touch 2g (which doesnt work cuz the battery is dead. big surprise CRapple) it looked as normal as it should, but behind the curtain, the device was screaming at me to stop, every little tweak, hack, or anything I could do to the device. (Except install android on it because the project cut off 2Gs)
So what im saying is, its more fun to screw with the stock app.
Dont like the boatware?
Download a root app uninstaller.
Dont like anything about most devices?
Someone else doesnt like it either, and theyre smarter than you and figured out how to change that.
Root all stock roms.
Maybe one day, they will have an option to come rooted and unlocked.
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For me 1st time I'm on stock. I like it and don't see a need for change I did root it. On my SGS the minute I go it I put a rom on it.
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I did until I discovered PA battery life. Been 5 hours of fair use, mostly as a media player, connected to data. Battery is still at 84%
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I hate stock as soon as another ROM handles all I want. I have a toddler. I need camera function. As soon as cm10 fixed it a week ago. I will never go back to stock again. Only 2 features I miss are page buddy and mhl. Page buddy probably can be modded in though
I love the new features they keep adding instead of stock. And I love a 150meg download instead of 700meg
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The lack of mhl in cm or aokp keep me on stock based roms
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The same day I purchased my Note 2, I had it rooted and has TWRP installed on it. Day 2 I was flashing roms. I guess I just really like to tinker with my phones, because where was nothing wrong with stock!

C.FLAT, "I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy"
If you are that concerned with the camera features working why not flash a ROM like Scrosler's CLEAN ROM ATT SE. It made from ATT base. Completely stock without the bloatware. Everything works perfectly and you are not at the mercy of your carrier to recieve OTA's instead your at Scroslers lol. But seriously, I would much rather get/wait for updates from a DEV here on XDA (Where I can talk directly to the DEV and or people in the thread also using the ROM) instead of waiting for carriers to take forever and you can't directly talk to the team of people who made the Official ROM . So for me if you want stock look and feel with no bloatware and is more customizable than actual stock I would go with a ROM based or made from complete stock base. Just my 2 cents

Slow motion on jedi
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stock miscom
skifreek said:
So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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besides the excellent support miscom. Thanks miscom

I'm on stock cause I got no reason to be otherwise. Everything works as intended, and the so-called "bloatware" is in reality a complete non-issue.

No new roms or update

Yeah I know delete it or move. Just wondering if there is a surprise coming?
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jesemalave1 said:
Yeah I know delete it or move. Just wondering if there is a surprise coming?
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Sure is lolololol.
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Thanks. That's what's up
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jesemalave1 said:
Thanks. That's what's up
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Yes 4.2.2 coming soon
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I'm not sure how in the world a stock Samsung/AT&T 4.2.2 Rom is going to outperform CarbonRom or Beanstalk.
And no I'm not looking for a debate about AOSP and TW Roms. Just an opinion.
The release date of 4.2.2 is still unknown for Note 2.
Report from http://www.sidhtech.com/ June 8th, 2013
Samsung Galaxy S3 & Note 2 Android 4.2.2 Update Wait Over Shortly
That sure nails it down.
They point out :
The update will bring with it some new features along with fixing bugs. Owners will be able to resize apps, change their colour and their layout.
Welp, I can do that already with Roms that are built they way they should be out of the box.
CarbonRom with Crossbreeder and Xposed installed is insane.
I may flash back to be able to receive the update.
But it'll probably make me want to kick my own ass, and I'll restore back to heaven.
EDIT: Then again, I wasn't thinking. Once Team Zodiac and our other quality devs get their hands on the 4.2.2 source, the heavens will open up more.

Is everyone pretty much just waiting for Sammy 4.2.2 to leak?
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Moonrom was just released for test for the 7105. Running fine on my att note 2. Its pretty awesome. Lots of customisation in aroma.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42351274
There is a fix zip to flash after rom on the next page of thread from the link. Otherwise you will get phone crash if you dont flash the fix.
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dicksteele said:
I'm not sure how in the world a stock Samsung/AT&T 4.2.2 Rom is going to outperform CarbonRom or Beanstalk.
And no I'm not looking for a debate about AOSP and TW Roms. Just an opinion.
The release date of 4.2.2 is still unknown for Note 2.
Report from http://www.sidhtech.com/ June 8th, 2013
Samsung Galaxy S3 & Note 2 Android 4.2.2 Update Wait Over Shortly
That sure nails it down.
They point out :
The update will bring with it some new features along with fixing bugs. Owners will be able to resize apps, change their colour and their layout.
Welp, I can do that already with Roms that are built they way they should be out of the box.
CarbonRom with Crossbreeder and Xposed installed is insane.
I may flash back to be able to receive the update.
But it'll probably make me want to kick my own ass, and I'll restore back to heaven.
EDIT: Then again, I wasn't thinking. Once Team Zodiac and our other quality devs get their hands on the 4.2.2 source, the heavens will open up more.
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And after all that all I have to say is one simple thing Spen.
I am running AOSP right now the alternatives for the Spen are still nowhere near the seamless integration on a TW Rom, no discussion there.
If you dont care aobut the Spen then sure, who cares about TW Roms.
I get improves fps on games and benchmarks with the current ROM at the cost of some spen functionality...I wish i didnt have to choose.

Err..... did you even read what I wrote?

I got a note because of it size and spen. I still can use it just not everything is as seamless as with tw ROMs. In fact I may just go back to one so no idea how you interpreted what i wrote that way seriously....
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shaolin95 said:
I got a note because of it size and spen. I still can use it just not everything is as seamless as with tw ROMs. In fact I may just go back to one so no idea how you interpreted what i wrote that way seriously....
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I use GMD spen control app and i love it..u won't miss touchwiz
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That looks interesting but have you figured a way to take screenshots and edit with the spent as well? I have been looking for that
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Screen shot yes but not edit right away from there..u have to open it on an app then edit.
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Thanks for sharing everything that's why I been on this thing forever. You all are always here to help thanks for the fast responses. Sorry rootzwiki. This be my home.
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dicksteele said:
I'm not sure how in the world a stock Samsung/AT&T 4.2.2 Rom is going to outperform CarbonRom or Beanstalk.
And no I'm not looking for a debate about AOSP and TW Roms. Just an opinion.
The release date of 4.2.2 is still unknown for Note 2.
Report from http://www.sidhtech.com/ June 8th, 2013
Samsung Galaxy S3 & Note 2 Android 4.2.2 Update Wait Over Shortly
That sure nails it down.
They point out :
The update will bring with it some new features along with fixing bugs. Owners will be able to resize apps, change their colour and their layout.
Welp, I can do that already with Roms that are built they way they should be out of the box.
CarbonRom with Crossbreeder and Xposed installed is insane.
I may flash back to be able to receive the update.
But it'll probably make me want to kick my own ass, and I'll restore back to heaven.
EDIT: Then again, I wasn't thinking. Once Team Zodiac and our other quality devs get their hands on the 4.2.2 source, the heavens will open up more.
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I can't make the change because of the problems AOSP ROMS have with Bluetooth. I use BT a ton, don't want to have to do without.

jmacdonald19 said:
I can't make the change because of the problems AOSP ROMS have with Bluetooth. I use BT a ton, don't want to have to do without.
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This is what is so frustrating. If I could just use the most basic functionality of the phone I would be on 4.2. I have tried several, but have no choice but to return to 4.1 so I can use my phone safely in the car.

sockey said:
This is what is so frustrating. If I could just use the most basic functionality of the phone I would be on 4.2. I have tried several, but have no choice but to return to 4.1 so I can use my phone safely in the car.
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I use bluetooth in my car all the time and ive only used aosp roms and they all work great. I don't miss the s-pen at all. But I didn't buy it for the s-pen I bought it for the battery and the non-pentile amoled screen.
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webbles17 said:
I use bluetooth in my car all the time and ive only used aosp roms and they all work great. I don't miss the s-pen at all. But I didn't buy it for the s-pen I bought it for the battery and the non-pentile amoled screen.
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How do you place a call from bluetooth? Every 4.2 rom I have tried does not work for placing a call over bluetooth. This has also been a know issue from what I have read. Is there a fix?

sockey said:
How do you place a call from bluetooth? Every 4.2 rom I have tried does not work for placing a call over bluetooth. This has also been a know issue from what I have read. Is there a fix?
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I can't actually recall the last time I called anybody but i will try it out and let you know. I drive a Ford flex and i just hit the sync button and say phone then call whoever. But I will double check that it does work.
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