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New Touch Pro 2 from collegue broken. Common problem?

Both my colleague and I have a new Touch Pro 2 WWE Rhodium since about 2 months.
My colleague was, since he has the telephone complaining about very short battery life. Mine lasts easily 7 days in regular use (now shorter because 24/7 direct pushmail connection). His battery is completely drained within 24 hours.
We contacted the dealer and they have ordered a brand new battery for him. He tried the new battery and I now have his "bad" battery in my phone. But his battery is still dead within 24 hours and in my phone it lasts 'forever'.....
Today I offered to upgrade both phones firmware to make sure all settings were cleared and both phones are configured exactly identical!
Well. I first went to go give both phones a cold boot (call+end+power > vol up). On my phone works perfectly, but my colleagues phone does not respond to the VOL UP button, it completely freezes and does not respond to any button, so I have to pull out the battery. Tried it over at least 20 times!
At last I just updated both firmwares which went OK, but even after that the COLD RESET is not possible.
Finally I found out the END/HOME button didn't respond. My colleague just always used the on-screen end button, so you couldn't accidentally skip the option to create a call note.
After that I tried to get into the COLD reset screen by only using the CALL + POWER button, and that worked!
To make a long story short, the phone is now going back for service. It's a plain DOA and I am positive this is related to the battery drain problem. His phone gave very high "device usage" durations.
PS. Why the long story? At the end when typing this thread I found the cause of this problem. I was hoping someone could point me to the solution but I found it myself.
My final little question is: Is this a common problem with this type of phone or is my colleague just plain unlucky? Do I have to worry about the buttons of my phone? My HTC TyTN buttons broke down on me twice and once on my colleagues phone.

7 DAYS??????!??
Amazing... mine wont last more than 8 hours with gprs connected 24/7, 1 push exchange account, 2 push yahoo account with seven, 2 hours call, 100+ emails a day, IM+.
Can you give details what apps running in your phone?

Maybe he uses his phone way more than you? I use mine a lot and if I was away from a charger for 24 hours it for sure wouldn't make it.

Sorry but B.S. on going 7 days , It won't do that in standby.

I just had to warranty my phone tonight because the end key is dead on my phone. I have the Verizon version and the end key is actually a combination button that is also the power key. It acts like its stuck down so when the phone boots it immediately tries to turn itself off and i have to watch it boot so i can select "No" to the power off question. After that I get zero response from the key. I know it works though because if I pull the battery out I can turn the phone on with it. Hopefully these are isolated and this doesn't become a common problem with these phones because I love it otherwise.
Thanks,
Ben

Do you have the Touch Pro 2 or the Imagio? Doesn't the Verizon Touch Pro 2 have the power button on top like all the other ones?

its the verizon touch pro 2 and no the power button is long press end key and the top button is only used to turn the screen off.

Yeah that's true. It works differently for the Verizon TP2 just as the guy above me has mentioned.

You should have given this post a different name, along the lines of " hardware button issues " or something like that. You might have gotten more feedback from the community.
I got mine a couple of weeks ago (at&t branded tilt 2) and it's pretty damn solid. My Business partner has had the telus world phone version for a little while now and no problems there, as well my friend bought one of the European models (htc branded Touch Pro II) a while back and he has no issues with his.
The battery thing is definitely normal, my tilt II barely survives a day. Seven day's is ridiculous.

benanthony said:
its the verizon touch pro 2 and no the power button is long press end key and the top button is only used to turn the screen off.
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That is how they all are. The top button puts the phone to sleep like any other phone. Turning the phone off actually turns it off, no incoming calls or messages.

That's weird that Verizon uses the End Key to power the phone on and off.
The Tilt 2 has it as Silence, which is what every single HTC phone I've used in the past, despite carrier, has had it as.
I don't think anyone should realistically expect this phone to last more than a day unless it's used for nothing but text messaging and an occasional phone call (let's face it, there are people who SHOULD have a dumbphone texter like a Rumor2 but insist on having this phone because it's great looking and expensive). Smartphones, in general, last 24 hours and should be charged when you get home. I mean it's a miracle if my Palm Pre can last two days.
Until battery technology catches up I advise getting really friendly with your charger and/or dock

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petard said:
That is how they all are. The top button puts the phone to sleep like any other phone. Turning the phone off actually turns it off, no incoming calls or messages.
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that is not the way they all are. I have a TMoUSA TP2 and the top button is clearly marked power and if you hold it pressed it will turn the device off. If you just tap it it will, as you say, put the phone to "sleep". (Turn the screen off). BTW I have no problems with any buttons so far and going on two months. None of my previous HTC devicces gave me trouble either.

Screen shuts off when slid up!

So... all of a sudden, everytime i slide the screen up, it shuts the screen off. I slide it back, hit the power button a few times, then it turns back on?
NRG GTX 5/9 release
TMO USA
Is my screen busted?

Power off your phone, remove the battery and then put it back in, making sure it fits in there snuggly.
That has happened to me, and removing/replacing the battery fixed it.

Yes, as Amy noted this behavior is often attributed to the battery not sitting exactly right in the compartment. Sometimes just popping it out and back in is enough, but some people have reported needeing to slip a small piece of paper or something similar under the battery cover as well to help keep it snug. (It seems that the sliding motion can be enough to shake the battery off the contacts if it's not secure enough).
Let us know if that clears it up

okay. what the deuce.
my tp2 just literally started doing the same.
earlier today it was perfectly fine.
but now.
i slide out the keyboard and the screen goes blank.
i tried the remove battery and restart.
didn't help.
i tried the paper between battery and cover.
didn't help either.
the screen only goes blank when completely slid out.
if i hold it open just before completely open the screen is still on.
any suggestions?
thanks.

Yea, none of those things worked. However, keeping the battery snug helped with the issue of not hearing anything through the handset.

It honestly sounds to me like both of you are dealing with a loose connection between the screen and the motherboard somewhere, either power or video feed, can't say for sure which. Unless you're willing to disassemble your rhodium (which isn't impossible, just complex), it sounds like it's time to send it to a service center (for AT&T) or to HTC, since that would be a warranty repair.
I hope that this is just freak coincidence that both of you had this happen just now, and not a sign that we're all at risk of having the same issue eventually
How long have each of you had your phones?
EDIT: One more question for you guys...whatever is on the display on your screen rotates into landscape before the display shuts off right?

sirphunkee said:
It honestly sounds to me like both of you are dealing with a loose connection between the screen and the motherboard somewhere, either power or video feed, can't say for sure which. Unless you're willing to disassemble your rhodium (which isn't impossible, just complex), it sounds like it's time to send it to a service center (for AT&T) or to HTC, since that would be a warranty repair.
I hope that this is just freak coincidence that both of you had this happen just now, and not a sign that we're all at risk of having the same issue eventually
How long have each of you had your phones?
EDIT: One more question for you guys...whatever is on the display on your screen rotates into landscape before the display shuts off right?
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i have own the phone for about three weeks...
though. bought it used from a friend who had it for four months.
but my friend bought it used from somebody too...
aka. not sure how long it has been used.
the display is rotated. and stays on as long as the right side is held.
before the 'tilt piece' is revealed. as soon as it is. the screen goes blank.
and i believe it would be the video feed...
i can still type with the keyboard. just can't see what i am typing.
unless i hold the screen from sliding completely out on the right.
and about the warranty...
would i have a warranty with htc still?
don't have proof of purchase.
just the phone and original box.
thanks.

My AT&T Tilt 2 has been exhibiting this behavior for some weeks now. It seems to be centered around the keyboard slide, but the behavior comes and goes. I found that slamming the phone on the desktop would bring it back to life for a little while, but then it would start to clap out again in a few days. What a pile.
Anyway, I have a fresh one from AT&T to swap out. Now all I have to do is get all my applications and stuff transferred over to the new phone before sending the craprod back to them.

sh4d0w86 said:
i have own the phone for about three weeks...
though. bought it used from a friend who had it for four months.
but my friend bought it used from somebody too...
aka. not sure how long it has been used.
and about the warranty...
would i have a warranty with htc still?
don't have proof of purchase.
just the phone and original box.
thanks.
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Oh boy...yeah I didn't realize you'd gotten it third-hand. Well it has been less than a year since the Rhodium was released, so it's possible that HTC will still honor the 1-year manufacturer's warranty, but I can't guarantee it. My suggestion would be to just contact HTC America's service group (1-888-617-1113) and see what they say.
Best case: they agree to cover the repair
Worst case: an example of one of the risks you take when you buy something through "unofficial" channels

Yea luckily for me, I bought it second hand, but it was purchased from a retail store, meaning I got a warranty exchange. I just sent it back.

having same issue
im having same issue, when the phone is slid open, goes black, nothing gets it back on, the buttons light up, display dead
however, if i place it in stand by via power button in regular mode, then slide it open, it works, ive rattled and shook the phone, never goes back off, im typing this with it open and tilted....
any ideas?
prob leaving the htc community, samsung captivate, blackberry torch, or htc aria are my choices from at

[Q] Stuck in Bootloader

My phone's volume down button appeared to be stuck. It's not physically stuck but the volume pop up would come up all the time and turn my volume all the way down and vibrate. I installed Quick Settings hoping that would override whatever was causing the issue and it seemed to do the trick except I'd still get the random vibrate from before it just wasn't turning down my volume. Then I tried turning the volume down with the volume rocker and it didn't respond. I could still turn the volume up, just not down.
I unlocked my bootloader yesterday in hopes of rooting but I never got around to actually rooting my phone. I was going to do that this morning so I pulled up cmd and threw in the command: fastboot flash recovery r1-modaco-recovery-clockwork-touch-endeavoru.img. Then I realized my phone was still on *facepalm* so I tried to power down but the power down options weren't popping up like they're supposed to. So I held the power button down to force the power down but instead of powering down, it went straight to the bootloader screen.
Now here's the problem... my volume down button still does not work and to make matters worse, my volume up button and my power button are acting as the volume down button. In other words, I can only scroll down. I'm unable to select anything or power down.
Any ideas?

After pondering for a while, I'm thinking that this is a hardware issue and the volume down button is defective. I notice that when I push either the volume up or power button, the cursor doesn't move until I let go. That leads me to believe that the volume down button is still stuck so when I push another button, the other button doesn't do anything (similar to power windows in a car where the driver is trying to roll a window up while the passenger is holding the window down button and the window just sits there) but when I let go of it, the volume down button resumes and moves the cursor down.
The worst part is, I've been in Germany for three days and I've only had the phone for two. I don't speak German (I'm a lazy military husband who figured submersion would be the best way to learn) so turning this in for warranty is going to be a major pain in the ass. *sigh*

Hi, sorry to hear you are having problems,
Since you haven't actually rooted the phone and haven't made any modifications, you should be able to return it for warranty. This would have happened even if you weren't trying to root the phone; just powering it down. So yeah... Seems like warranty is your only option I'm afraid....
Good luck

I figured the warranty should still be good. I'm just hoping I can do the warranty exchange in the store like they do in the US. If not, then I hope I can call the US customer service. If I have to go through the German customer service, it won't be fun (because I don't speak German, I'm sure they're helpful if you can communicate with them).
I was able to "unstick" the button about 30 minutes ago. I read that there's a creaking noise if you squeeze the lower corners of the phone. I squeezed the phone and sure enough, it creaked, but only slightly. Nothing to worry about. But I did see that familiar rainbow looking wave in the screen. So I squeezed all up and down the sides (to this day, the rainbow distortion of LCD screens still mesmerize me) and that inadvertently unstuck my volume down button. It has still stuck a couple of times since but it stops when I squeeze the screen near the button.
I'm still going to turn it in for warranty, but at least I can play with it until then.

Ah did you got it booting then?? I would get it to an O2 store ASAP if you bought it from your carrier. If its an unbranded phone you could try going into a German phone shop to see if they'll replace it. Most people working in German shops should speak a fair amount of english, so that won't be a problem.
EDIT: Oh and before you go numb looking for one; Germany has no O2 stores I think...

Hey,
I'm happy you were able to fix it. As for the warranty thing. Technically you void it by unlocking your bootloader, no matter whether you rooted it ore somesthing. But as this seems to be a hardware issue that can't be caused by software (like frying your CPU by overclocking it).
Welcome to Germany! Normally stores won't return it, but sometimes they offer to send it to HTC for you... If you're lucky and you bought it at "Media Markt" you should be fine though. They usually do that kinda stuff, if you got it from O2, chances are low they will just give you a new one. Sorry

Yes, I am able to boot back into the OS. There are O2 stores in Germany, that's where I bought the phone.
Thanks for the info guys, I appreciate it.
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I wanted to give an update to this situation in the rare case that I'm not the only one who has experienced this problem. I ended up taking my phone back to the O2 store and they sent it off for a warranty claim. During this time, I was given a Motorola Milestone as a loaner. It was small, slow and frustrating but at least it was a Google phone. Two and a half weeks later, my phone was back. The verdict? They could not duplicate the issue and therefore did NOTHING! I was so frustrated because I felt like I went without my phone for absolutely nothing. The O2 staff did tell me that if I send the phone back to the warranty claims a second time and they don't find anything again, they will replace the phone. But did I really want to be without my phone for another 2+ weeks? After all, I did find a quick temporary fix for the issue. I decided to hold onto the phone in hopes that I could better understand the issue or even live with it.
After a few more weeks with my phone, the issue was getting more and more difficult to "fix" until eventually, it wouldn't fix. I still used the phone for a couple days until it froze up, rebooted and went straight into the bootloader where it stayed at full brightness until it died. I couldn't shut it off nor charge it. Essentially, it was bricked. I went back to the O2 store again to send it off for warranty. This time it took an agonizing 3 weeks and again, they couldn't fix it. But this time they sent me a brand new phone! Yay! So now I'm sitting here with a fully functional awesome Android phone. It was rough going 5+ weeks without my phone but I'm happy now.
Recap of key points:
- HTC One X
- Unlocked bootloader
- Rooted
- Custom ROM
- Had a hardware issue
- Sent in for warranty... twice
- Phone was replaced after second warranty attempt at no cost

[Q] Rebooting and Power Issue

My phone seems to have some kind of issue. Starting this morning, my phone rebooted twice without me doing much of anything to it - I clicked the power button to check the time, and doing so caused the phone to reboot. I waited for it to reboot, and when I clicked the power button again, it rebooted once more.
Now, whenever I click the power button, the phone won't wake. I can wake the phone and use it normally by pressing the volume keys, but I can't put the phone back to sleep. My phone is still randomly turning off and rebooting as well. Right now, it's off and I can't turn it back on because the power button isn't responding. I have to plug it into the computer/wall to actually turn it on. Does anyone know what's going on?
At first I thought it was a faulty power button, but I've no idea what to think now. I'm running Calks E4GT 3.
For the time being, I'm using Smart Screen Off, which is working great. I can live with this, but my phone is still likely going to reset, and I have no idea why.

IceCatraz said:
My phone seems to have some kind of issue. Starting this morning, my phone rebooted twice without me doing much of anything to it - I clicked the power button to check the time, and doing so caused the phone to reboot. I waited for it to reboot, and when I clicked the power button again, it rebooted once more.
Now, whenever I click the power button, the phone won't wake. I can wake the phone and use it normally by pressing the volume keys, but I can't put the phone back to sleep. My phone is still randomly turning off and rebooting as well. Right now, it's off and I can't turn it back on because the power button isn't responding. I have to plug it into the computer/wall to actually turn it on. Does anyone know what's going on?
At first I thought it was a faulty power button, but I've no idea what to think now. I'm running Calks E4GT 3.
For the time being, I'm using Smart Screen Off, which is working great. I can live with this, but my phone is still likely going to reset, and I have no idea why.
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I'm no expert but when that happened to my phone I had it replaced. Turned out to be a faulty power button...
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I was thinking about it, but I'm certain it's out of warranty. My contract expires this November, so I'm really hoping that's not the case.

It's your phone a year old or older?
Do you still have the original battery?
Pp.
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It is. I've had my phone since November 2011. I do still have the original battery, though the battery is pretty much shot. It had overheated (it was charging underneath some comforters), but a few days later the battery came back on, and I've been using it ever since. I'll get a new battery, but do you think that's what the problem is?

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It is. I've had my phone since November 2011. I do still have the original battery, though the battery is pretty much shot. It had overheated (it was charging underneath some comforters), but a few days later the battery came back on, and I've been using it ever since. I'll get a new battery, but do you think that's what the problem is?
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You can definitely try changing the battery, but also if you have insurance on your phone you should be able to call sprint and have them exchange it. I did it not too long ago and I had my phone since day one. I'm positive that my warranty was expired but I still had insurance on it. They sent me another one 2 days later.
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I would definitely say yes, you need a new battery!
Amazon is your best bet. Anker makes a good battery.
Pp.:beer:
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How much did that cost you? I might have insurance on it, but I have no idea. I remember replacing one of my previous phones and it costing $50.

IceCatraz said:
How much did that cost you? I might have insurance on it, but I have no idea. I remember replacing one of my previous phones and it costing $50.
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To be honest they didn't even charge me..lol. All I did was call sprint, told them that my power button wasn't working,they asked if it had any water damage. I told them it didn't and she asked if I had insurance,told her I did and she simply said no problem, asked for my address and said you'll have another device in 2 to 3 days. Received it in 2 days returned the other one no questions no fee..
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From Amazon about $12.00 plus shipping. Samsung Epic 4G Touch 1800 mAh Standard Battery ..
Pp.
Transmitted from another galaxy with a Jellybean infused P-5113 full of Unicorn porn.

My phone started that 3 days ago. Power button failed. I have 8 batteries so it wasnt that. Id put battery in and it would boot up without touching button. Then power off. I had insurance send new one. They gave me new not refurb and it works day and night difference better than old one
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I'm most definitely sure it's your power button going broke.
Battery issues usually make your phone flicker like auto brightness is adjusting before shutting off. And so on.
A battery issue wouldn't make your phone reboot by itself when touching the power button.
My friend use to have power button issues like what the OP stated. I told her, her case is causing it(she had one of those cases that block the power button and volume button with rubber) we took the case off left the phone alone for a day and the power button worked correctly. I since have cut out the rubber to her case.
Sorry about the long post
I've known 6 ppl with the E4gT in the past 3 months that have Power button issues. I usually can spot them now.
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Seems a lot of people are having power and battery related issues. I've had my e4gt for around a year and my battery is going out. Had 2 ordered today so hopefully no more problems. Lay your battery down flat on the table if it's bulged or misshapen then it's bad. They're only like 10 bucks on ebay.
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Sounds like what Im experiencing is the power button issue as welll; phone wakes up on and off by itself, power button doesnt always wake up or put the phone to sleep (or brings up power menu), and random reboots. So assuming this is the case for me too, and with insurance, will I have any issues trying to get it fixed if my phone is rooted? Or just make sure I have unrooted my phone and made stock before I take it to Sprint and Ill have nothing to worry about it then?

CylonWolf said:
Sounds like what Im experiencing is the power button issue as welll; phone wakes up on and off by itself, power button doesnt always wake up or put the phone to sleep (or brings up power menu), and random reboots. So assuming this is the case for me too, and with insurance, will I have any issues trying to get it fixed if my phone is rooted? Or just make sure I have unrooted my phone and made stock before I take it to Sprint and Ill have nothing to worry about it then?
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It is always best to go back to stock. They will likely charge you $50 for it though so it is actually cheaper to go to http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-epic-4g-touch-power-button-repair/. No need to go back to stock with them and they do great work.
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graydiggy said:
It is always best to go back to stock. They will likely charge you $50 for it though so it is actually cheaper to go to . No need to go back to stock with them and they do great work.
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I believe my power button is going out too. It does the rebooting cycle like others have mentioned and simply rubbing my finger across the button (without pushing it) will cause the phone to turn on and off.
I currently don't have insurance on my phone. Sprint sent out an email a couple of weeks ago about Insurance Open Enrollment. Anyone know if I can enroll now and turn around and take my phone in for repair (unrooted of course)?
Thanks

There was a thread on the power button issue on the Sprint.com forums, and a poster claimed he didnt pay anything for the repair and didnt have insurance (I guess because its apparently a known/common issue now). I figured with the open enrollment it might be worth $8 just to make sure Im covered, although apparently you have to wait 3 days after you signup (Jesus waited 3 days, so I guess I can too huh?). If its a known issue with the phone that is apparently at least somewhat common, I see no reason Id have to pay $50 to have it fixed.

****. This just started happening to me this morning. Phone was working just fine. I am just running stock rooted and now seems like everytime i try to turn off the screen the phone reboots. I have never dropped this phone. I dont have any insurance policy from sprint. Do you think there is anything they will do with this phone?

dbldown768 said:
****. This just started happening to me this morning. Phone was working just fine. I am just running stock rooted and now seems like everytime i try to turn off the screen the phone reboots. I have never dropped this phone. I dont have any insurance policy from sprint. Do you think there is anything they will do with this phone?
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My reboots started happening earlier this week. I'm running the JB GB08 rooted leaked release. I called Sprint this morning and added the insurance coverage since open enrollment runs through the end of March. I plan on taking the phone into Sprint over the weekend after I reinstall the office ICS release build.

[Q] volume up button not working

so, i had this motherboard problem about 8 months ago, where the phone thought i was docking it when i connected the charger, went to guarantee repairs, they changed the motherboard and it was ok for a while. then i got the problem with some parts of the touch screen not working on the bottom half, they changed the whole screen and the motherboard again, so why bother? why not give me a new phone? when i got it back last week, the volume up button was not working, i can change volume when i press volume down and slide it on my screen, but that's really annoying. i discovered this just today, because i didn't have a need to lower the volume since. what do you make of this? my concernes are, that when i take it back now, they're going to tell me that i broke it and i have to pay for the repairs, i'm really stuck with this :S, any suggestions?

I had your problem with vol button, it was a manufacturing defect and i've received a new hox.
However, I change it in the store the day after I bought it

yeah, but if i discovered it right away and took it back the same or the next day, i guess things would be different, any ideas on how should i approach the carrier with my problem?

Just take it back and cause a big scène in front of everybody about the crappy service & repair !!! Done this too many times already