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Hi All,
I currently have a Motorola Milestone (international version of the droid) and I was wondering if I should update to the Galaxy Nexus. Acknowledging the fact that I can only classify my phone as "usable" if I have a rom which runs Froyo and is overclocked from 550mhz to 1GHz (The Froyo Mod by 89luca89). As a result of these tweaks and the overclock, my phone only lasts about 6-7 hours with a considerable amount of usage which is far to little for my expectations. I live in Canada and if I were to get a new phone it would at least be on a 2 year contract on Bell. Looking at the specs of the Galaxy Nexus it doesn't compare too much above the competition, and in terms of raw specs I believe that some competitors could easily surpass the performance of the Galaxy Nexus which essentially means that eventually, it won't be as great and would compare to other products (e.g. iPhone 2G against iPhone 4).
Okay, so at this point it seems as though I have made my decision to wait for longer but....
Although the Galaxy Nexus compared to a lot of the other competition seems to have underwhelming specs, it is still the first ice cream sandwich phone which Google and Samsung collaborated upon which means that the software would be tailored specifically for the hardware and vice versa. Also, I believe that the developer base would probably be extremely huge because of the number of consumers purchasing this product and the huge interest for developers with the newest version of Android. ( I mean look at the Nexus One!) Now another probem that I see with the Galaxy Nexus is that the GPU is 4 years outdated so it might not be the best phone to get but then again how many games do you really play on your phone? (I think the GPU is identical to the GPU in the Nexus S but apparently the processor is more-so tailored for multitasking and better performance, but not gaming)
As you can clearly see I'm at cross-roads and I seriously need some opinions.
My question to you guys is:
Should I get the Galaxy Nexus (on Bell's network) when it comes out in Canada or should I wait for a successor or a faster alternative such as the Samsung Galaxy S3.
Thanks, and your opinions are greatly appreciated
every person will give you a different answer/ reasoning behind that answer, in the end it would be do you want to spend the money. Im a Nexus fiend so I will say yes get it
If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
Shadow_Android said:
If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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specs are only part of a phone, motorola likes locking down their phones pretty tight, and god knows how they will provide updates
slowz3r said:
every person will give you a different answer/ reasoning behind that answer, in the end it would be do you want to spend the money. Im a Nexus fiend so I will say yes get it
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I don't mind spending the money at all but I'm just afraid that it will get outdated too quickly because of the specs
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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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The specs are pretty similar to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'd assume that the Galaxy Nexus would have much more developers which is good for me because I love mods, themes, roms, etc. Also I honestly don't want to wait that long to get ice cream sandwich and also motorola might ruin the entire experience if they add blur.
Thanks for your opinions guys, I think it is fairly evident that I am heading towards the Nexus Prime I probably have to wait for a very long time though since I don't think a GSM version with LTE will be available on Bell's network that fast
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If you wait for a while the droid RAZR is coming out and the specs are pretty awesome
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As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
SophT said:
As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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This.
I am also a Milestone owner. I will NEVER buy another motorola product again. Locked Bootloader, sold as a "flash ready" phone with 2.1!?! Finally updates to 2.2 8 months later and the build is soo bad the phone practically can't be used (DSI Errors).
Really my question now is, Nexus or GS2? I was really hoping for the exynos in the nexus.
SophT said:
As a fellow MS owner looking to upgrade, MOTO can take the RAZR and shove it. Never again will I buy a MOTO phone after dealing with the whole droid = unlocked, ms = locked. And MOTO has said they will lock down the RAZR, so forget that.
I'm getting a nexus prime or a xiaomi M-1
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Yeah now I'm like 95% sure I'm going for the HTC Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus
drae52 said:
This.
I am also a Milestone owner. I will NEVER buy another motorola product again. Locked Bootloader, sold as a "flash ready" phone with 2.1!?! Finally updates to 2.2 8 months later and the build is soo bad the phone practically can't be used (DSI Errors).
Really my question now is, Nexus or GS2? I was really hoping for the exynos in the nexus.
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I wouldn't get the GS2 though I would rather go for something like the Rezound just because it seems like old news now But I'm now debating whether fire power is more important or a higher developer base (in terms of both apps and roms) and newer OS
search for my post on the sub par hardware thread in the GN general forums. u will be convinced.
If you want a phone that doesn't get outdated fast, the Galaxy Nexus is the choice because you are guaranteed to get the latest update directly from Google in a timely manner.
The NS will surely lasts you 1.5 to 2 years and it will be one of the first phones to get the next version of Android next year.
The Nexus S is still one of the best phones out there with the latest software while other older high spec phones are crying to their manufacture for updates.
I would just say this for a point of view as a Nexus S users
If you spend time hacking and rooting your phone to rip off what ever manufactured skinned into your phone get the nexus
If you like speedy updates with new OS's get the nexus
The nexus s dev section might look slow to some people, but thats cause everything doesnt need to be fixed, its been a treat not to have the feeling to flash a rom to update a bug, its great.
I dont think I will ever buy another android phone that is not a nexus line, think about all those cool feature baked into ICS that you will probably not see if say Moto removed the lock screen and puts in their own dialer and such just saying
BrianDigital said:
I would just say this for a point of view as a Nexus S users
If you spend time hacking and rooting your phone to rip off what ever manufactured skinned into your phone get the nexus
If you like speedy updates with new OS's get the nexus
The nexus s dev section might look slow to some people, but thats cause everything doesnt need to be fixed, its been a treat not to have the feeling to flash a rom to update a bug, its great.
I dont think I will ever buy another android phone that is not a nexus line, think about all those cool feature baked into ICS that you will probably not see if say Moto removed the lock screen and puts in their own dialer and such just saying
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But from a hardware perspective the Galaxy Nexus isn't very strong. I wanted to get something along the lines of the new Exynos processor and certainly not that 4 year old gpu which I doubt could render games at such a high resolution. I might be looking to get the new Samsung galaxy s 2, the one with LTE and apparently theres an new one with a 1.6GHz exynos processor I think. Nonetheless, thanks for your reply
kanariya said:
If you want a phone that doesn't get outdated fast, the Galaxy Nexus is the choice because you are guaranteed to get the latest update directly from Google in a timely manner.
The NS will surely lasts you 1.5 to 2 years and it will be one of the first phones to get the next version of Android next year.
The Nexus S is still one of the best phones out there with the latest software while other older high spec phones are crying to their manufacture for updates.
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It might get outdated fairly quickly though as the gpu is fairly bad and the processor isn't the greatest and the competition is exponentially rising
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But from a hardware perspective the Galaxy Nexus isn't very strong. I wanted to get something along the lines of the new Exynos processor and certainly not that 4 year old gpu which I doubt could render games at such a high resolution. I might be looking to get the new Samsung galaxy s 2, the one with LTE and apparently theres an new one with a 1.6GHz exynos processor I think. Nonetheless, thanks for your reply
It might get outdated fairly quickly though as the gpu is fairly bad and the processor isn't the greatest and the competition is exponentially rising
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It's all up to you for what you think is more important.
I would take the pure Android experience, guaranteed timely updates over better spec on paper. The real world performance might be differ as ICS is optimized for the OMAP instead of the Exynos.
I would still take my Nexus S over any non Nexus device out there on the market today.
There is a reason that samsung has sold more android phones than motorola.
Better Hardware, better software.
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There is a reason that samsung has sold more android phones than motorola.
Better Hardware, better software.
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Not sure about Samsung against Motorola but Samsung's software generally sucks. That's the reason I want to avoid Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus.
Dragooon123 said:
Not sure about Samsung against Motorola but Samsung's software generally sucks. That's the reason I want to avoid Galaxy S2 and get a Galaxy Nexus.
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Agreed. I really do hate TouchWiz with a passion.
I flashed CM7 on my SGS2 and loving it over the stock TW rom, also if there are some bugs (like BT sleep problem, and headphone volume that don't go higher than 50% closed source thinghs) but is blazing fast and customizable.
I will never go back again on stock Sams rom, that's why I'm getting a Nexus also if I'm disappointed on the hardware part.
For sure the sgs3 will be a kick ass, but sgs2 buyer's know that some battery eating bugs was solved from developers, after several months (Android OS process).
Well these is my opinion I can be wrong against some of you for sure, but as someone sayd I prefer flexibility and customisation over pure power, and I don't play games on a phone, so for me the Nexus is a must this year.
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Title basically says it all. If you are eligible for an upgrade, what phone would you get and why?
The new samsung galaxy s3 because i think the performance of the new exynos quad core processor would be great......like the old exynos on the galaxy s2
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I would also go for the Samsung Galaxy S 3. However, I would like to have a Rezound until then
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Galaxy Nexus for me. Hackability, perfect size, Nexus!
Owning a rebound I can tell you it is a great device. But the battery life is not the best, about 9 hrs moderate use ( the extended battery helps a lot but is bulky). The American version of the galaxy S3 will not have a quad core so I would recommend the rezound or nexus. Both great devices obviously the rezound has sense which I love but if your not into then the nexus would be your best bet.
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Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates
I still wouldn't mind Galaxy Journal. Shame it's being released so late
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Inc4g lte if it has the same camera tech as the one series.
Amphibliam said:
Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates
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I actually agree with what you say. The next phone I'm getting is most likely a Nexus (assuming Samsung is making it of course) unless Verizon screws us over and ditches the next Nexus. Otherwise I'm going with a GSIII or the iPhone.
"All of those bacon strips"
gsm nexus, or iphone. i can't stand the Android skins.
What would be even better it's if HTC got the next nexus device. Rumor is they were talking to google about it for jelly bean.
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if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
Nit you pretty much summed up my thoughts on the Inc4G. I'd like to see what official cost is and if it's not too bad I may try and score one off contract. I was finding Nexus and Rezounds going for 200-300 on ebay barely used.
I'd skip the Nexus because honestly it seems like it's been pretty lackluster compared to expectations people had for it. I also am not a fan of the whole ICS Holo theme which is why I'm so drawn to Sense4.
SGIII did absolutely nothing for me. The press conference was boring and it looks like just another run of the mill Galaxy phone. Touchwiz is also horrid and really ugly.
nitsuj17 said:
if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
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100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
andybones said:
100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
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Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
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The OG Incredible was my first Android too! It was the perfect intro to Android. I had the original Samsung AMOLED screen, which was much nicer than the SLCD version (imho) so it was gorgeous, and was easy to root. I flashed so many roms on that phone. I'm really surprised I didn't wear out the nand chip. I traded that phone for a Fascinate, with which I had a love-hate relationship. That's where I really learned how to use ADB. I won an LG Revolution from Phone Arena a couple months later, which was okay, but the way that phone was coded together, it was impossible to do anything with it. Plus, is was LTE, so it didn't have working AOSP. No devs ever got the phone, so its development situation was a little lacking. I traded it for my DInc2 about a month after I got it and I've had this phone since August. I've been so much happier having an HTC again. After Sammy and LG, I've been confirmed in my OEM of choice. It's not like Moto is going to sway me. Haha
I pre-ordered the Evo LTE yesterday, as I'm jumping to Sprint. I got bumped off my contract by family because they wouldn't give me the billing account password after they changed it, so I couldn't pay my bill over the phone anymore. They told me I had to drive down 45 minutes every month to pay them, which I couldn't do because I had lost my car in an accident that wasn't even my fault. It sucked. I lost my unlimited data plan.
If I were still on Verizon, I'd be jumping for joy that the Inc4G is a One S variant. The One S outperforms the S4 version of the One X a bit because it's qHD, not 720p. Plus, 4" is the perfect screen size. I don't think I'm gonna like the 4.7" screen on the Evo LTE at first. I'll get used to it, but damn that's a huge phone.
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Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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i wouldnt use an upgrade on a 6/7 month old phone running an older s3 processor...but thats me
Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
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Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
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well thats point, i wont buy something thats already older and tie myself for 20 months to it
and the thing with sense devices is that they historically a wasteland for dev support when another huge one comes out...so id bet you ll loose most of the rezound developers come the fall if verizon launches something that much better
now thats not to say other (new) devs wont step in, like the og inc and evo 4g saw...but stll
buy what you want obviously, but thats my take on things
Now I have a dilemma. I'm very tempted to cancel my Note II pre-order for the Nexus 4, unlocked.
No LTE, no S-Pen, and no additional storage, but wireless charging, frequent updates, and no contract. Oh Google, why do you tease me so?
This is an easy one. Galaxy Note 2 all the way! I will admit that the Nexus looks more attractive than in previous leaked pics but still for the aforementioned reasons, I'm sticking with the Note.
Exactly what I thought when I read the news. I got a Note and a GNex and I go back and forth. I do find I use my Note more though so I'm keeping my pre-order for the Note 2.
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gtalum said:
Now I have a dilemma. I'm very tempted to cancel my Note II pre-order for the Nexus 4, unlocked.
No LTE, no S-Pen, and no additional storage, but wireless charging, frequent updates, and no contract. Oh Google, why do you tease me so?
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I will want to read reviews but I will check them both out again in a T-Mobile store asap & may get both to see which I use more/like more..
The https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb is the best looking LG handset (check out video at http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/nexus-4-leaked-on-video/ & http://www.google.com/nexus/4/) I've seen with good (I actually usually prefer IPS & this will have higher PPI-hopefully the speaker won't suck like prior Nexus smartphones) although obviously not perfect specs (no expandable storage etc) but is priced well. The Note2 S-pen & software are pretty unique so I wonder if I will keep both
I also want to read the reviews on: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_10_16gb as I'm not sure I'm feeling the Win8 tablet I briefly played with the other day at BestBuy.
Feelin' like a Google FanBoy today: https://play.google.com/store/devices
Even the chromebook ( https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_samsung_wifi ) is priced to sell & I actually use the Cr-48 Google sent me more than I expected..may get one for my 9 yr old niece..
BTW, interesting video look at: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3568784/nexus-10-preview-price-release-date
I feel that different manufactures are realizing that getting updates out are a big deal to the buyers now. And even so there is always a way to get the new software on non nexus devices. My big issue with the nexus line is that I enjoy keeping my music on my phone, and that 16 gigs just cuts it to close storage wise. Also at this point no LTE is a little ridiculous, even the iPhone has it now lol.
Alaris said:
I feel that different manufactures are realizing that getting updates out are a big deal to the buyers now. And even so there is always a way to get the new software on non nexus devices. My big issue with the nexus line is that I enjoy keeping my music on my phone, and that 16 gigs just cuts it to close storage wise. Also at this point no LTE is a little ridiculous, even the iPhone has it now lol.
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I agree it's not the greatest trend to exclusively rely on the cloud but have you tried:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.music
"Access your entire music library instantly with the Google Play Music app, and save your favorites for offline playback"
https://play.google.com/music/listen
How much music do you want to keep locally?
Movies-video is much more of a storage hog..:
Yeah I person don't keep to much music but am known to download the high end games that take up space to. I guess I just like the piece of mind of knowing I can add a card to my phone. Especially since I just got away from the iPhone scene lol.
This article on forum.xda-developers.com gives the light in which we can observe the reality. regards
No LTE, not even 42Mbps DC-HSPA just 21Mbps. No expandable storage and crappy LG camera sensor. I'm sticking with my Note 2 decision.
gtalum said:
Now I have a dilemma. I'm very tempted to cancel my Note II pre-order for the Nexus 4, unlocked.
No LTE, no S-Pen, and no additional storage, but wireless charging, frequent updates, and no contract. Oh Google, why do you tease me so?
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Easy. Nexus or Nothing.
Nexus: Google software, Google updates
AT&T Note II: All of Samsung's usual software quality control issues (Such as inability to properly deliver "Project Butter" in its entirety on Exynos 4412 - Seriously, even the GNex UI responsiveness beats it!), plus all the bugs AT&T loves to throw in. You can absolutely count on AT&T firmwares to be steaming turds.
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Easy. Nexus or Nothing.
Nexus: Google software, Google updates
AT&T Note II: All of Samsung's usual software quality control issues (Such as inability to properly deliver "Project Butter" in its entirety on Exynos 4412 - Seriously, even the GNex UI responsiveness beats it!), plus all the bugs AT&T loves to throw in. You can absolutely count on AT&T firmwares to be steaming turds.
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As I agree 100% with you Entropy; the devices appeal to different markets. You have almost an inch screen size different.
Pro's and Con's of both devices. Apples to oranges. I myself will be getting both. Why not!? The nexus is only 349$ that's cheap, and 299$ if you get the 8gb.
My opinion. If you can afford the Note. Get the Nexus as well. I'll run the Note as my personal phone and Nexus as my work phone.
The only thing for this LGN4 is 4.2 and updates support as it usually follow... :good: that's it... dev will port note 2 all the wait...
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The only thing for this LGN4 is 4.2 and updates support as it usually follow... :good: that's it... dev will port note 2 all the wait...
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As he said Samsung can't even get butter right on the 4412. (If you dont know what the 4412 is google it, learn something new.) CM has pretty much dropped support. Seeing new light and the exynos becoming open source might change this however.
Fingers crossed at least. Because touchwizz straight up sucks.
Am I missing something? I player with the tmobile gnote 2 and it ran as smoothly if not smoother then my nexus 7 so how did they get project butter wrong?
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As he said Samsung can't even get butter right on the 4412. (If you dont know what the 4412 is google it, learn something new.) CM has pretty much dropped support. Seeing new light and the exynos becoming open source might change this however.
Fingers crossed at least. Because touchwizz straight up sucks.
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Yes, I heard exynos 4412 stopped dev right at the door... I love to flash a much better rom but, hmm... guess I just can't stand without card slot... 4.1 is good enough from now for me...
Still sticking with my note 2 pre-order. The gn4 looked nice except the storage options... just as bad as the note2 but at least I can throw in an sd card for my media. I will probably end up buying the gn4 or something similar to use in situations that might ruin my note2... like cycling, running, day at the beach. You get the idea. Hard to argue with a phone that has good specs and is really cheap by todays standards for off contract.
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My opinion. If you can afford the Note. Get the Nexus as well. I'll run the Note as my personal phone and Nexus as my work phone.
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I agree, and what I also have in mind. Having said that, if I had to choose either or, I don't know what I'd do.
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Easy. Nexus or Nothing.
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Why are you posting here?
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AT&T Note II: All of Samsung's usual software quality control issues (Such as inability to properly deliver "Project Butter" in its entirety on Exynos 4412 -
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What are you referring to here? Device hasn't even launched yet.
I'm still torn and undecided. Having the best features of 4.2 implemented in the updated Search app tilts things in favor of the Note 2.
I really like the idea of the Nexus 4 but I don't think I want to go another 2 years without LTE, nor do I want to be limited to 16 GB on the device. I could live with the 16GB limitation if the N4 had LTE.
I remain really impressed with the N4 price point & its hardware aesthetics but the Note2 is still more versatile if you can put up with the size & plasticky build (I'd slap a case on it but I do wish it had a more premium exterior). I look forward to seeing them side by side in a T-Mobile store on 11/14 & may trial them both if the N4 is as impressive in person. If the N4 loud-speaker sucks like prior Nexus devices it would be a deal breaker for me but I prefer IPS' more natural colors personally. I also want to see reviews including battery life etc..I'm sure they will be pitted against each other.
I hope the US Note2 gets the split screen multitasking-multview soon : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h12245evQ4w as well as advertised screen screen recorder function http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j-oTLGPUEY & the S-Pen functionality can't be matched
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/...-gesture-keyboard-multiple-users-photo-sphere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-4uMQqerA
Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?
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Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?
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Nexus 5 is impossible, look at past trends.
And the s4 ge is not a nexus device, it's just AOSP supported..
Correct me if I'm wrong..
What is expected is a updated nexus 7, which did not come out as of today, there is still 2 days of I/o, who knows what will happen..
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I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
IO had updates to a lot of existing apps. Hangouts was a little lackluster, but the Books and Music apps got big updates, and it looks like the Maps app will get one soon. And there's the new IDE and the Games framework might be quite nice. So I'm actually not all that disappointed.
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I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
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Bingo.:good:
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I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
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Me and you both. I'm leaning towards the Note3 unless a better option is available by September.
Just like the g1, ogdroid, hero, g2, g2x, and maybe 1 or 2 other Verizon droid phones....pure Google s4....nothing new to see here.. #stillnotanexus
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the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more
If they had a new device to announce they need a new version of android. And if there was a new one they would do it at the highlight keynote. Not during the workshops.
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There's actually something bigger than a new Android version or device in this I/O.
They improve the rest except those I mentioned above.
I actually hoping for the next Android version.
And I'm still hoping they'll surprise us in the middle of another event. Hahaha. This is a silly hope, but who knows?
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the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more
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Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.
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Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol
I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?
Why would anyone in their right mind expect a nexus 5 at I/o every nexus phone to date has been released in October, and it is still only 6 months since the nexus 4 was released.
I was, however, a little disappointed not to see a nexus 7 upgrade and android 4.3, but given all the leaks, it seams 4.3 simply got delayed and we'll probably see it at some point this summer.
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Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol
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I would say that depends heavily on if you're a collector of all things Google or not
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I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?
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Hang in there. There's still hope Motorola will come through with something unlocked, stock, and hot for all carriers. And no, I'm not talking about the XFON, that was revealed to have mid-grade specs. Perhaps it's big brother though, which is rumored to be launching for all carriers with similar specs to that of the newer super phones.
I'm in the same boat as you, have been sitting on my upgrade since December hoping for some news or acknowledgement of things for come for our CDMA network...
#FingersCrossed
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Saw some speculation on Android Central that Google may be moving in the direction of annual update cycles now that Android has achieved a degree of maturity and polish. I am a little dubious. Part of what has made Android great up to this point has been the fact that we don't have to wait a year for updates. Two or three updates annually keeps things fresh. I would speculate that it also helps to keep the development community involved since there is always a new challenge to be tackled, but not necessarily at the expense of all of the hard work that went into the previous iteration. Just my 2ยข.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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There is no arguments over here, just correcting misinformation. Unless you are trying to tell me Nexus One is not a nexus device, then fine.
Beamed from my Maguro.
It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.
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It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.
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The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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The S3 to S4 is a fairly large upgrade compared to the GNEX to N4. The S4 improved on virtually every aspect of the device and even shrunk the dimensions while increasing the screen size. They improved the screen, battery, camera, processor, GPU, ergonomics and added features. How is that a measly upgrade...?
I find it hard to understand that people want a complete overhaul of the devices looks in order for it be considered an "upgrade".
If they were to radically change up the overall look of the S5 people would make a million threads *****ing about the changes...
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Hi there.
As my good old gnex yesterday, got a big fall, it felt down from 2nd floor outside the window, and on the asphalt.
I need a new phone as fast as possible.
I know that the N5 is around the corner, but i can`t wait. I need phone for work.
The desired phones are - Galaxy s4, nexus 4, or maybe note 3.
Looked at Htc One, but i need a little bit bigger screen than 4,7inch.
Any suggestions?
between S4 and N4.
What about getting another cheap/used GN, then order the N5.
I would order a cheap phone to get you by, then order the N5 when it comes out.
Personally I can recommend SGS4 as an upgrade for the Galaxy Nexus. I just recently switched from GNex as my main phone to SGS4. Performance even on stock is so sweet compared to the aging Nexus (running latest stable Slim Bean). Flashing custom ROMs won't be as easy as on the Nexus though and you'll get KNOX warranty void AFAIK...
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Personally I can recommend SGS4 as an upgrade for the Galaxy Nexus. I just recently switched from GNex as my main phone to SGS4. Performance even on stock is so sweet compared to the aging Nexus (running latest stable Slim Bean). Flashing custom ROMs won't be as easy as on the Nexus though and you'll get KNOX warranty void AFAIK...
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I think, i`ll go for it. i`ve newer tried touchwiz, ;D
And, i hope, that the performance improvement will be noticable.
And, i can any time make it a Google edition . :good:
I know that the N5 is around the corner, but i don`t care. And in my country it will be maybe only next year. As the N4 showed in stores only in may.
I would probably go for note3 only if i could afford it. I herd good things about battery life on note 2 so i assumed note3s would be par with note2.
another consideration would be s4 (only cuz my friend have 1 and its blazing fast outta box) or G2 ( i herd good things about this 1)
since we all come from nexus, if you don't miss dev supports, i know what we miss- battery life, so i would go for note3, g2 or s4 if NOT going for
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Get a barebones phone for now and grab an N5 when it's out, that's goin to be in a few days and you will have one of the beastly device !
I can go for Note 3 too, but the size is a bit scaring me.
Anyways, i`m going to buy a new phone on contract, not in direct way. And as i said for the nexus, it will only be available on contract here in my country, maybe next year .
Or maybe go for Htc One?
Or get the Nexus 4 and after a half year go for N5 when it will be available.
The biggest thing now is to choose from N4 and S4.
N4 has great developement support, but the S4 has great specs and 5inch 1080p display.
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I can go for Note 3 too, but the size is a bit scaring me.
Anyways, i`m going to buy a new phone on contract, not in direct way. And as i said for the nexus, it will only be available on contract here in my country, maybe next year .
Or maybe go for Htc One?
Or get the Nexus 4 and after a half year go for N5 when it will be available.
The biggest thing now is to choose from N4 and S4.
N4 has great developement support, but the S4 has great specs and 5inch 1080p display.
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I should go with the nexus 4 and then buy a nexus 5 when it's cheap or wait for the nexus 6
The G2 is a bigger version of the N5.
It has a bigger screen, better camera, bigger battery, etc.
I'd love a G2, except I can't bring myself buying an LG phone after the G2x I had.
I'm really torn between the G2 and the Note3 or S4.
The G2 is the best phone out there ATM with S800 processor, 1080P screen, 2 or 3gb of Ram, 16mp camera with hardware anti-stabilizing. They have some really slick looking stock cases. The back buttons are kind of weird until you think about using it with a flap case, no longer do you have to search the side of the phone for the buttons. Being on the back would make it sweet for controlling volume when listening to speaker calls or pandora.
It is also getting released on all major carriers in the US and worldwide, all with the same specs. So I suspect that development will be pretty good on it. especially that the N5 will be it's little brother, roms should be able to be ported relatively easily.
The Verizon version also has Qi Charging AND is UNLOCKED for GSM radios. So you can pop in a AT&T/Tmobile/StraightTalk/SimpleMobile and go.
Buy the GS4 and call it a day. Especially if you have the money and can't wait. Otherwise, get a used Nexus 4 or some other phone and hold out.