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Is the GNEXUS worht buying if you have a GS2

Hi im thinking of getting the Galaxy Nexus after having SGS2 and then htc one x (wich i sold due to a lot hardware problems) i dont know what to get and i think the galaxy nexus would be a decent phone but im woried is it better than the SGS2 if not than this phone is not for me because i got tiered of S2 another question is how is gaming and watching hd mkv movies on this phone?And what do you say should i get it (p.s i hate the SGS3's design and i dont want to spend that much money for what i think is not a big upgrade just a quad core and better screen)

Hardware specs wise, sgs2 is slightly better
Galaxy nexus for more developer support, pure Google experience w/o bloatware, faster OS updates
Personally I prefer the nexus
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my sister has gs2 and i've the gnexus..
the differents are little but important, first of all the different resolutions and the different time to update.. i have ics since a week before christmas 2011 and my sister installed it 2 weeks ago, and now i've jelly bean xD
if you find to sell your gs2 at a nice € and you find the gnexus in a nice discount you can do it

think its a overall good phone how is the gaming on this phone like N.O.V.A 3 or Modern combar 3 and watching mkv movies

Please refer to the comparisons post in the general section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

before responding, I did check the comparison thread, didn't see much on the S2 V nexus directly, TONS of S3.... and I'll bring up some other considerations that aren't really "phone" specific for the OP to think about ....
To the OP, it is hard to answer your question, you ask "is it worth it .....", but, we don't know what YOUR definition of "worth it" is.
You can go to other threads, gsmarena, etc., and see the phone spec differences.
Just a couple things that might be a little subtle from just looking at the specs .....
The S2 has faster HPSA, 42 MBS theoretical VS 21 on the Gnexus. Most PHONES can't take advantage of that speed by themselves (or users don't). It makes a difference for me, as I hotspot and run a computer off of my tmobile connection. You do need to be in a tmo 42 mbs area for this to be useful, however, so, if you're not, this feature might not be "worth it" for you.
PENTABAND? What provider do you use, are you looking to do contracts? Straight Talk (att and tmobile) and tmobile itself, offer great pay per month contracts (plenty of posts on the ST $45 unlimited everything plans). The S2 is faster ON TMOBILE, but, while it can run on ATT for voice, data is very slow. The nexus is fast on both ATT and Tmobile.
Pentaband is a good feature if you are looking to switch between att and tmo (maybe one gets better reception when you're at school, the other when you're at home ?).
A THOUGHT HERE is the ATT S2 SKYROCKET, apparently, it runs ATT fast natively, AND, can be flashed to the Tmo version (Tmo S2 doesn't have the same radio, so doesn't work the other way)
As others have mentioned, more developer support for the GN, less for the S2, but, ... the S2 has lots of good roms too.
SD CARD - is "WORTH" it to me. I am in hotels a lot, have a large collection of blu ray DVDs I've converted using DVD Catalyst, and have many on micro SD cards ... and I can use my phone as a movie player if the hotel (or if I go to a friends house) TV has HDMI.
The built in memory on the GN is not so small that its a big hinderance, I can still fit a movie or two and hundreds of hours of songs, so, long as you plan you're fine ... removeable SD allows you to bring your entire song collection and dozens of movies.
That's useful for me, might not be "worth it" for you.
Both are great phones, FOR ME, the Nexus is much more versitile if you're looking to maximize pay as you go plans and carrier useage, the S2 if you are looking for pure data speed and SD is a little stronger.
There are other features of the phones that might be "worth it" to you, those are the big ones I've been thinking / testing.
Good luck with your choice!

I already have the s2 so im going to think about it one more time for me it seems like a god mid upper range phone altough the htc one s also looks tempting

Get a comment in before the lock guys...
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Didn't read this forum before posting, but YES it is worth it. ESPECIALLY with JellyBean ready for action.

Yes and No
Yes and no. From a community standpoint, yes. The Galaxy Nexus is THE developers phone. However, it is likely that Google will announce their next Nexus phone in November - December. This phone will not only give the pure android experience, but also outweigh the Galaxy Nexus in terms of specs. I think the Galaxy Nexus has a good 6 - 8 months until it becomes outdated.

lfnunley said:
Yes and no. From a community standpoint, yes. The Galaxy Nexus is THE developers phone. However, it is likely that Google will announce their next Nexus phone in November - December. This phone will not only give the pure android experience, but also outweigh the Galaxy Nexus in terms of specs. I think the Galaxy Nexus has a good 6 - 8 months until it becomes outdated.
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Yeah I agree. I mean Google haven't really been impressive on specs. I mean the Nexus One was amazing. The Nexus S came out and still amazing.
Then the Galaxy Nexus Came out with OK specs upgrade.
To me this seems like the pass that apple takes on their iPhones.
So I EXPECT Google to make a very dramatic upgrade in Design and Specs and this time set the Standards.
Not a few standards.

What are your priorities in a phone?
If you always want the latest and greatest hardware, GS2
If you want the perfect blend of latest tech & reliability without having to install a custom ROM, Gnex
I've used the GS2, sometimes it acts up, but it's mostly a good phone. The gnex, it's very reliable.
The GS2... It wasn't until this year that Skype officially supported video chat on the GS2. Stuff like that just turns me off from the GS2 & GS3. They always need 6 months from release to actually mature past their older brothers.

Like everyone else is mentioning, the Galaxy Nexus is a great device if you plan on fully utilizing the "Nexus" part of the name.

I'm sticking with the Galaxy Nexus and here is why:

I know everybody is excited about the Nexus 4 and I'd definitely buy it if I didn't already have a phone, but I'll be sticking with my Galaxy Nexus until at least next year. Why?
1) The Nexus 4 price is enticing, but this is also a precedent set by Google to do this with all of their Nexus phones from now on. I don't feel like I'm missing out on a one time deal. I fully expect Google to roll out another model for the same or similar price next year.
2) I bought my Galaxy Nexus at $349 months ago. I have no buyers remorse at all.
3) The processor/ram on the Galaxy Nexus is sufficient for my needs. I don't play any games so I don't feel the need for more speed.
4) The Nexus 4 is coming out with Android 4.2. I'd rather buy a handset that comes with Android 5.0 since it would have whatever hardware features that debut along with Android 5.0's featureset and that is likely coming by this time next year.
5) I'm not too keen on having a phone with a glass back. Reminds me of looking at the iPhone 4 and dreading how it might break. I'd rather just avoid any issues Nexus 4 users may have with a glass back.
6) Motorola Mobility was bought by Google and it will take months before we start seeing the results of that, just in time for the next Nexus. Motorola's radios + Motorola build quality + Google user-focused design + stock Android = a perfect and likely device for 2013.
7) People are crying their eyes out about the Nexus 4 not having LTE, and while I don't care about LTE myself right now since its not even a standard nationwide much less worldwide, I'd say that in a years time, carriers will be further along with deploying and standardizing LTE and manufacturers will have cheaper, more standard hardware out thus it will be a lot more likely for Google to roll out their LTE-standard Nexus phone in 2013, just in time for my next phone purchase.
8) I don't think quad-core phones are ready for prime-time just yet. Many of the reviews for quad-core phone indicate that they're not as beneficial over a dual-core chipset as people would think just yet. I'd like to get a quad-core chipset that is more mature, power-efficient, and powerful and the 2013 Nexus seems like a good time to expect such a thing.
9) I have my Galaxy Nexus rooted and running Minco with the latest Franco.Kernel. All of the issues with the screen and sound have been fixed with their optimizations, features, and patches. I get battery life that is good enough for me with it, and my phone just gets smoother and smoother every month using that combination. The Minco devs say they will continue to support the Galaxy Nexus for at least another year, so having my phone continue to improve with Android 4.2 and 4.3.X in the coming months will tide me over just fine.
That's my rationale and I'm sticking to it. Anybody agree? Anybody sticking with the Galaxy Nexus for other reasons?

My list is much shorter:
1.) VZW

I'm sticking with my Galaxy Nexus for the exact same reasons
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Nice points.in happy with my nexus and I'm just going to use the money to get a nexus 7 lol.
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WiredPirate said:
My list is much shorter:
1.) VZW
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Time to dump that crappy company as soon as your contract runs out and go with the freedom of GSM.

I agree with this 100%. This is pretty much exactly what my reasons are.
The only things I really like in the Nexus 4 are:
- Gorilla Glass 2
- IPS panel screen
Other than that I think it's a waste of money IMO. Not to mention 8GB is ridiculous now... I laugh at that since my Droid X2 came with 8GB (and at least has an External SD). The amount of "power" their putting in this is totally unnecessary... Unless your playing a game like GTA then I doubt you'll ever even use all 4 of those cores (I don't even know what 2GB of RAM would even be used for because that ridiculous).
It's a nice toy, but definitely not something I would jump on. If I didn't have my GNex now and I were buying a new phone, then sure, I'd probably choose the Nexus 4 - but I'd definitely go with the 16GB upgrade. (Also, I bought my GNex for $50 about a week or two ago. I have no regrets at all)
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Why does everyone have issues with Verizon anyways...? I don't see anything wrong with them or see any benefit of going GSM. Anyone care to enlighten me on the subject? >.>

IAreKyleW00t said:
The only things I really like in the Nexus 4 are:
- Gorilla Glass 2
- IPS panel screen
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Yeah, those are the only things I care about too. IPS is enticing but you gave me an idea for my 9th point.

IAreKyleW00t said:
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Why does everyone have issues with Verizon anyways...? I don't see anything wrong with them or see any benefit of going GSM. Anyone care to enlighten me on the subject? >.>
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generally you can get cheaper service with a GSM provider. there is also a higher resell market since you can use the phone on any GSM provider.

CADude said:
Time to dump that crappy company as soon as your contract runs out and go with the freedom of GSM.
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Expensive? Yes. Crappy? Definitely not. I would love to go get a $50/mo prepaid no contract GSM plan, I actually would if I could. But the fact is in my area the GSM carriers have overall poor reception, and extremely poor to no reception at my home and work. So the "freedom of gsm" to me just means my phone will never work because it doesn't have service. So until I can get actual reception and data from GSM networks, I have to refer back to my list:
1.)VZW

Zepius said:
generally you can get cheaper service with a GSM provider. there is also a higher resell market since you can use the phone on any GSM provider.
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I figured as much, but that seems more beneficial if you were the only user in your phone plan. I got that family plan. ;P Plus, I get great coverage where I am. I'm always connected to 4G wherever I go. I'm pretty satisfied with Verizon... they've never let me down so far. Whenever I've had an issue with a phone they take it back and give me a new one - no questions asks.
I'm sure there's probably A LOT more details about the differences between the two, but it does seem like everyone hates Verizon. xD

IAreKyleW00t said:
I figured as much, but that seems more beneficial if you were the only user in your phone plan. I got that family plan. ;P Plus, I get great coverage where I am. I'm always connected to 4G wherever I go. I'm pretty satisfied with Verizon... they've never let me down so far. Whenever I've had an issue with a phone they take it back and give me a new one - no questions asks.
I'm sure there's probably A LOT more details about the differences between the two, but it does seem like everyone hates Verizon. xD
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well.. people hate verizon cause they muck with the phones, delay updates, and generally just say "screw you phone" after 6 months
even with me having a family plan with 4 phones, it was cheaper to switch to prepaid plans. i'm currently on straight talk.

CADude said:
I know everybody is excited about the Nexus 4 and I'd definitely buy it if I didn't already have a phone, but I'll be sticking with my Galaxy Nexus until at least next year. Why?
1) The Nexus 4 price is enticing, but this is also a precedent set by Google to do this with all of their Nexus phones from now on. I don't feel like I'm missing out on a one time deal. I fully expect Google to roll out another model for the same or similar price next year.
2) I bought my Galaxy Nexus at $349 months ago. I have no buyers remorse at all.4
3) The processor/ram on the Galaxy Nexus is sufficient for my needs. I don't play any games so I don't feel the need for more speed.
4) The Nexus 4 is coming out with Android 4.2. I'd rather buy a handset that comes with Android 5.0 since it would have whatever hardware features that debut along with Android 5.0's featureset and that is likely coming by this time next year.
5) I'm not too keen on having a phone with a glass back. Reminds me of looking at the iPhone 4 and dreading how it might break. I'd rather just avoid any issues Nexus 4 users may have with a glass back.
6) Motorola Mobility was bought by Google and it will take months before we start seeing the results of that, just in time for the next Nexus. Motorola's radios + Motorola build quality + Google user-focused design + stock Android = a perfect and likely device for 2013.
7) People are crying their eyes out about the Nexus 4 not having LTE, and while I don't care about LTE myself right now since its not even a standard nationwide much less worldwide, I'd say that in a years time, carriers will be further along with deploying and standardizing LTE and manufacturers will have cheaper, more standard hardware out thus it will be a lot more likely for Google to roll out their LTE-standard Nexus phone in 2013, just in time for my next phone purchase.
8) I don't think quad-core phones are ready for prime-time just yet. Many of the reviews for quad-core phone indicate that they're not as beneficial over a dual-core chipset just yet. I'd like to get a quad-core chipset that is more mature, power-efficient, and powerful and the 2013 Nexus seems like a good time to expect such a thing.
9) I have my Galaxy Nexus rooted and running Minco with the latest Franco.Kernel. All of the issues with the screen and sound have been fixed with their optimizations, features, and patches. I get battery life that is good enough for me with it, and my phone just gets smoother and smoother every month using that combination. The Minco devs say they will continue to support the Galaxy Nexus for at least another year, so having my phone continue to improve with Android 4.2 and 4.3.X in the coming months will tide me over just fine.
That's my rationale and I'm sticking to it. Anybody agree? Anybody sticking with the Galaxy Nexus for other reasons?
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1.) Of course you can expect one every year with an attractive price now. That's just how Google rolls now.
2.) Same here (2 months ago), and no buyers remorse also. Still getting the N4 because of the attractive price and the processor murders the mediocre OMAP4460 inside the GNex..
3.) The SoC & RAM is NOT efficient for my needs in the GNex. I'm always low on RAM (below 100MB after use, w/o even playing games!). And the SoC doesn't have enough oomp. So can't wait for some S4PRO PAWAH!! lol
4.) Sounds good also, but the S4Pro will run KLP/(5.0?) just fine.
5.) The glass back is a non-issue. Most will put a slim case anyways for protection like I did with my current GNex. Plus it gave me a better grip. Since my carrier Tmo is an exclusive carrier for the N4, I can use Tmo's insurance to replace the N4 if something happens to it. Couldn't do the with my GNex
6.) Meh on Moto devices. Every one I've seen had crappy performance and crappy screens. HTC or Samsung FTW.
7.) LTE isn't a dealbreaker for me RIGHT NOW since Tmo has DC HSPA+42 which gets an average of 12-20mbps in my area (tested with my GF HTC One S). My GNex with SC HSPA+21 gets 3-7mbps average .. Tmo will have LTE Advance in 2013, and I will get the next Nexus (N5?) should have an LTE radio. So the N4 will be fine for the time being.
8.) Where do you get the the QC thats inside the N4 is not efficient? It's using 28nm+Krait core (Cortex A15 class) which is even better than pre-2012 SoC's using DC+40/45nm+Cortex A9. So the SoC inside the N4 is perfectly fine right now and is future-proofed for a good amount of time.
9.) :good:
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1.) VZW
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LOL
IAreKyleW00t said:
I agree with this 100%. This is pretty much exactly what my reasons are.
The only things I really like in the Nexus 4 are:
- Gorilla Glass 2
- IPS panel screen
Other than that I think it's a waste of money IMO. Not to mention 8GB is ridiculous now... I laugh at that since my Droid X2 came with 8GB (and at least has an External SD). The amount of "power" their putting in this is totally unnecessary... Unless your playing a game like GTA then I doubt you'll ever even use all 4 of those cores (I don't even know what 2GB of RAM would even be used for because that ridiculous).
It's a nice toy, but definitely not something I would jump on. If I didn't have my GNex now and I were buying a new phone, then sure, I'd probably choose the Nexus 4 - but I'd definitely go with the 16GB upgrade. (Also, I bought my GNex for $50 about a week or two ago. I have no regrets at all)
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Why does everyone have issues with Verizon anyways...? I don't see anything wrong with them or see any benefit of going GSM. Anyone care to enlighten me on the subject? >.>
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Verizon has a massive network, I can't deny that, but it uses CDMA which has some negative. But other than the tech that Verizon uses, the guy above answered a few things negative about Verizon so I won't repeat it, so i'll just write negatives about CDMA.
GSM/HSPA+/LTE>>>CDMA/LTE .. CDMA is crap because:
1.) its not global
2.) No Sim cards (not sure if the CDMA/LTE versions acts the same as G/H+/LTE version where you can pop in your sim card in any compatible phone and it'll work).
And 3.) No simultaneous Talk+Data (No downloading large files/updating apps while a phone call comes in, but I believe LTE fixes that if you have it in your area).
So yea, can't wait for CDMA to be phased out by LTE. GSM will start the phase out starting 2015/16.So HSPA+ & LTE FTW!
As for your original post about the N4, lol, its 8 & 16GB, but hopefully a 32GB version is in the near future. I'm always left with 1GB in my GNex :crying: And 2GB of RAM is great! I'm always around or be 100MB, so 1GB is NOT enough. The SoC inside the N4 is highly need and is a huge upgrade from this crap SoC inside the GNex. With the S4PRO it will allow me to punch threw anything with no worries about slowdowns :victory:

J-Hop2o6 said:
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GSM/HSPA+/LTE>>>CDMA/LTE .. CDMA is crap because:
1.) its not global
2.) No Sim cards (not sure if the CDMA/LTE versions acts the same as G/H+/LTE version where you can pop in your sim card in any compatible phone and it'll work).
And 3.) No simultaneous Talk+Data (No downloading large files/updating apps while a phone call comes in, but I believe LTE fixes that if you have it in your area).
So yea, can't wait for CDMA to be phased out by LTE. GSM will start the phase out starting 2015/16.So HSPA+ & LTE FTW!
As for your original post about the N4, lol, its 8 & 16GB, but hopefully a 32GB version is in the near future. I'm always left with 1GB in my GNex :crying: And 2GB of RAM is great! I'm always around or be 100MB, so 1GB is NOT enough. The SoC inside the N4 is highly need and is a huge upgrade from this crap SoC inside the GNex. With the S4PRO it will allow me to punch threw anything with no worries about slowdowns :victory:
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1) true
2) there are sim cards, and if you pop a sim card into a compatible phone, it works fine
3) talk and data works fine if you're a LTE area OR have a phone that has a SVDO radio.

Point 4 is very good. I however am keeping my Nexus simply because its perfect for my needs and will receive all the latest software updates direct from Google for at least another year. The only time I may change is if the HTC One X5 turns out to be true
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GNex is still a great device and relevant, not to mention I'm stuck in a Verizon contract. Looking forward to the next Nexus phone.
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It will end up being about $100 for me after selling my galaxy nexus. I was stunned when i heard the price, i expected it to be much higher. As far as the glass back i think a nice case takes care of that problem.

There's pretty much no reason to stick with Gnex, unless you really like the way it looks or prefer samsung. Nexus 4 beats it almost every way.
Nexus 4 all the way. Can't wait.

I am sticking ... and that was before I found out about not having LTE. I still have unlimited and use 4G quite a bit. Plus I just love the GN - front and design over all, though I painted the battery door. The only thing that sounds nice is the wireless powering without any extras and I'm sure the screen is beautiful. Not quite enough to push me. I'll certainly get the next Nexus as well.
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J-Hop2o6 said:
Verizon has a massive network, I can't deny that, but it uses CDMA which has some negative. But other than the tech that Verizon uses, the guy above answered a few things negative about Verizon so I won't repeat it, so i'll just write negatives about CDMA.
GSM/HSPA+/LTE>>>CDMA/LTE .. CDMA is crap because:
1.) its not global
2.) No Sim cards (not sure if the CDMA/LTE versions acts the same as G/H+/LTE version where you can pop in your sim card in any compatible phone and it'll work).
And 3.) No simultaneous Talk+Data (No downloading large files/updating apps while a phone call comes in, but I believe LTE fixes that if you have it in your area).
So yea, can't wait for CDMA to be phased out by LTE. GSM will start the phase out starting 2015/16.So HSPA+ & LTE FTW!
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1. I don't travel around the world so I don't think that matters to me.
2. You can swap out Sim cards.
3. I've never had issues with apps updating or whatever while in a phone call.
Not to mention I'm not the guy in charge of my contract/plan. >.>
I dunno, I've never had issues with Verizon. I'll do some research later on. This is getting off-topic so ill stop this now. :x
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I'll be sticking with the Galaxy Nexus as well. I still have 2 years left on my contract which is a drag, but that's not the only reason. As of right now, it gets the job done well. It runs smoothly & it can take the games I throw at it. When I get my next phone, I don't want it to be a minor jump from my current one & that's what the Nexus 4 feels like to me. I'm not disputing the power increase, but I'm just saying that I won't use it to it's full potential. I'll wait to see if there's a phone that packs more new hardware features than just power.

T889 vs Nexus 4?

I've been debating with myself which phone to get - I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person in this boat so I made this thread.
My situation:
Nexus IV: $360 here in Canada
Note II: $400 here in Canada, although with a 3 year commitment ($40 a month for unlimited nationwide calling, unlimited data, although they throttle after 5gb, and unlimited nationwide text).
I'd use the same data plan if I got the Nexus, although on the plus side, I have no contract. Not too sure how big of a plus that is, as I don't want to swap from Wind Mobile.
Strongly leaning in favor of the Note II right now.
Nexus IV Advantages: Overall this phone is very similar to the Optimus G; not unlike the Nexus S and the i9000s.
- The SOC appears to be faster
- No Touchwiz (IMO Stock > anything the manufacturers come up with)
I personally do not care about the Wireless "charging orb" and think it's a gimmick; of limited use in the real world where one can simply connect a micro-USB.
Perhaps the biggest advantage the Nexus IV has is well ... a Nexus phone. That means that the development community around it will be much bigger, faster updates, and a 100% chance of Cyanogenmod. I'm not sure what's the Cyanogenmod prospects on the T889, but there is a beta one working for the N7100 and considering how similar this phone is to the international version. I don't know how big the development community for the T889 is going to be.
Note II Advantages: More or less a blown up Galaxy S3.
- Audio quality appears superior (Wolfson DAC); important to me; I keep a rooted voodoo Galaxy S variant just for the audio as a PMP; I am unsure at this time of what DAC the Nexus IV comes with, but having listened to the Galaxy S3 and the Optimus G
- Speaker appears to be superior (not a big deal IMO)
- Bigger screen (good for browsing and movies)
- S Pen (and everything that comes with it; probably the only custom thing that any manufacturer has done that has added value; well maybe Sense before Froyo added value to Android)
- Expandable storage (Nexus IV probably not enough to import a serious FLAC collection)
- Battery life (based on reviews, it looks like the Note II has a better battery life)
I would discourage people from using a "points" system to evaluate the 2 phones.
Areas for debate:
- Size .... I personally prefer a larger phone, up to debate though
- Screen; well it comes down to IPS vs Amoled. Both have outstanding viewing angles, and the Amoled isn't pentile (although not the traditional RGB either it seems). Amoled has deeper blacks, but the white reproduction isn't the greatest. IPS has better brightness and is better out in sunlight.
- Neither the Nexus IV nor the Note II can claim to have a better camera for taking images
- I'm not sure how well these phones will last over time - the glass back on the Nexus might be an area for concern; the Note II seems to do well in the drop tests though
- Pentaband phone (the T889 is pentaband as is the Nexus); not planning on making any international trips, but this would come in handy if it did
LG also seems to have a bad reputation; not too sure as I personally have never owned LG phones for an extended period, but my Samsung experiences have been positive.
Your thoughts?

How much faster is the processor known to be on the Nexus 4?
I considered both, but definitely do not regret having gotten the Note II because I really care about the larger screen (the main reason I upgraded from a GS3, though I really wanted the quad-core exynos)
Also, there's a big difference in retail price, which is going to be a major factor in the comparison.

Nexus 4 is crap! Don't buy it or u will regret it!!!!!!
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jkxklutz said:
How much faster is the processor known to be on the Nexus 4?
I considered both, but definitely do not regret having gotten the Note II because I really care about the larger screen (the main reason I upgraded from a GS3, though I really wanted the quad-core exynos)
Also, there's a big difference in retail price, which is going to be a major factor in the comparison.
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In my case, price is very close, but yeah the screen is a big attractor.

honestly i don't think you can compare these 2. galaxy s3 versus nexus 4 is more of a fair comparison. Either you want the big screen or you don't, really what it comes down to. The pen is nice too although I seriously doubt how much i'll use it. I believe samsung cameras are superior as well. and i'm sure its gotten better, but frankly stock android sucked to me when i tried it on froyo and gingerbread.

Apples and IEDs
You're comparing Apples and ****ing IEDs; Note is HUGE, wicked fast, polished up with TouchWiz and has the surprisingly useful S-Pen. Nexus devices are wonderful, and I've owned every single one except the two just announced... But you can pry the Note II from my cold dead hands because it is hands down, the greatest device on Earth today.

Ya, I gotta agree, you are comparing two totally different products. While saying your movie collection will help you get over the fact that you will be stuck with 8 or 16 gb worth of space, over time, you will kick yourself for being stuck with 8 or 16 gb worth of space. 64gb microSD cards should be enough for you to stop making silly statements referencing your FLAC collection; it's a no brainer.
The S-Pen should be at the top of your list for a device that's centered around productivity. If you just want to watch movies, buy a tablet.
Long story short, CM10 and the rest of the ROMs are needed on devices... the Note 2 doesn't need them. Oh, and you forgot to compare battery sizes... probably something more important than any rom or even the microSD card slot. On the Note 2, it's glorious!

IMHO i need the sd slot by getting that phone i would have to revert back to ousting my iPod for music amongst the other things I've got on it.. can't do it... sides love the s pen.. this phone is awesome
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I would personally never buy the nexus 4 simply because it is made by LG and Samsung is far superior when it comes to smart phones. I upgraded my SGS3 to the Note 2 for the larger screen and the extras like the s-pen. Only thing that sucks right now is there are very few accessories for the Note at the moment but Seidio and Otterbox are in the works.

brashmadcap said:
You're comparing Apples and ****ing IEDs; Note is HUGE, wicked fast, polished up with TouchWiz and has the surprisingly useful S-Pen. Nexus devices are wonderful, and I've owned every single one except the two just announced... But you can pry the Note II from my cold dead hands because it is hands down, the greatest device on Earth today.
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You are exactly right.. I honestly don't see how i can honestly go to soothe device after I've had the note 2 i had a guy at work offer me 300 bucks and his white s3 I was like no!! Put the s3 on Craig'slist and get your own...the next phone i buy wool obviously be a note 3... What can i say I'm hooked...
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I have to agree. The t889 is the way to go. I look at the nexus4 and it is very similar to my t989 with a updated soc and very slightly different size screen. Along with the whole stock android thing. I didn't really feel the need to upgrade to the s3 from my s2 especially since I don't like hardware home buttons. But the note 2 has got me desperately wanting out of my contract so that I can get it. Bigger better screen, s pen, removable battery and sdcard slot. And I don't know about the statement that the qualcomm Soc is better then the exynos they are probably very very close but I'd take the Mali gpu over the adreno any day of the week. If you really want a nexus device just get a 199$ nexus 7. It seems like a better deal then the nexus 4. But you probably wouldn't even use the 7 incher if you had the t889.

I'm not sure what sort of crap people are talking on here and saying the Nexus 4 is crap, but that's an absolutely ridiculous statement. The SoC on the Nexus 4 is definitely faster than the Note II, but honestly Need for Speed Most Wanted is the only thing that doesn't run perfectly on the Note II (and even then we're talking a handful of frame drops that make no difference to gameplay). Most games aren't even close to being as taxing as NFS MW, so I wouldn't even worry about that. Games that usually slow phones down like Plight of the Zombie, and livewallpapers that do the same don't slow down the Note II at all. Everything runs perfectly on the phone.
As for features, it's really TouchWiz vs. stock Android. As nice as Android 4.2 is, the features in TouchWiz are unmatched, even though it can be extremely ugly. What's really nice about the Note II though is that there are already a lot of theming kitchens available, like this one, that make TouchWiz just a little less ugly by letting you customize icons and colors in the interface. Honestly after having the S-Pen features on the Note II, I'm not sure I could go back to any phone that doesn't have such features. It's one of the reasons I'll probably never run an AOSP based ROM on this phone. Of course AOSP has S-Pen gestures now, so there's no telling what the wizards here at XDA will do over time, but for now I bought the Note II for the S-Pen features primarily, and that keeps me from jumping ship from Samsung's stuff.
It's up to you. I'm getting my wife a Nexus 4 for Christmas because although she loves the Note II and the features, it's just a little too large for her. Plus I'd recommend a Nexus 4 over a Galaxy S III any day, but that's a whole 'nother thread. Get the Note II, you won't be sorry. It's by far the best phone I've EVER used.
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I have to agree. The t889 is the way to go. I look at the nexus4 and it is very similar to my t989 with a updated soc and very slightly different size screen. Along with the whole stock android thing. I didn't really feel the need to upgrade to the s3 from my s2 especially since I don't like hardware home buttons. But the note 2 has got me desperately wanting out of my contract so that I can get it. Bigger better screen, s pen, removable battery and sdcard slot. And I don't know about the statement that the qualcomm Soc is better then the exynos they are probably very very close but I'd take the Mali gpu over the adreno any day of the week. If you really want a nexus device just get a 199$ nexus 7. It seems like a better deal then the nexus 4. But you probably wouldn't even use the 7 incher if you had the t889.
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The Nexus 4 has a Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core and an Adreno 320. It's in a league of its own honestly. The only thing that truly competes with it is the SoC in the iPhone 5. Burns me that that's the case, but facts are facts unfortunately.

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I'm not sure what sort of crap people are talking on here and saying the Nexus 4 is crap, but that's an absolutely ridiculous statement. The SoC on the Nexus 4 is definitely faster than the Note II, but honestly Need for Speed Most Wanted is the only thing that doesn't run perfectly on the Note II (and even then we're talking a handful of frame drops that make no difference to gameplay). Most games aren't even close to being as taxing as NFS MW, so I wouldn't even worry about that. Games that usually slow phones down like Plight of the Zombie, and livewallpapers that do the same don't slow down the Note II at all. Everything runs perfectly on the phone.
As for features, it's really TouchWiz vs. stock Android. As nice as Android 4.2 is, the features in TouchWiz are unmatched, even though it can be extremely ugly. What's really nice about the Note II though is that there are already a lot of theming kitchens available, like this one, that make TouchWiz just a little less ugly by letting you customize icons and colors in the interface. Honestly after having the S-Pen features on the Note II, I'm not sure I could go back to any phone that doesn't have such features. It's one of the reasons I'll probably never run an AOSP based ROM on this phone. Of course AOSP has S-Pen gestures now, so there's no telling what the wizards here at XDA will do over time, but for now I bought the Note II for the S-Pen features primarily, and that keeps me from jumping ship from Samsung's stuff.
It's up to you. I'm getting my wife a Nexus 4 for Christmas because although she loves the Note II and the features, it's just a little too large for her. Plus I'd recommend a Nexus 4 over a Galaxy S III any day, but that's a whole 'nother thread. Get the Note II, you won't be sorry. It's by far the best phone I've EVER used.
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The Nexus 4 has a Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core and an Adreno 320. It's in a league of its own honestly. The only thing that truly competes with it is the SoC in the iPhone 5. Burns me that that's the case, but facts are facts unfortunately.
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Imagine a note 2 with a s4 pro
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I think these devices have really different use cases.
One major draw back for me about the nexus 4 is the battery and SD card. I've owned every nexus devicedevice and while they are amazing devices, there always seems to be some (major)drawback.
This could be said about any phone.
For the note2, the Major drawback is the size, something that I'm OK with. Which is whyi won't be switching to the n4.

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You're comparing Apples and ****ing IEDs
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Ya, I gotta agree, you are comparing two totally different products.
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I agree they're pretty different, but definitely not comparing apples and oranges (or IEDs). ..mainly because (for most), it's one or the other. They're going to serve the same purpose, even if in different ways.
I've been going crazy, back and forth btwn the two. I told myself I'd never get a non-nexus device again, but leaning more towards the NoteII now. The most important aspect for me now is the developer support. ParanoidAndroid has ruined my crackflashing escapades. I've never been on a ROM so long, and everything else seems weird now.
I hope PA comes soon. Aside from that, I worry about the N4's lack of storage/expandable storage which has seriously been a PITA on my Gnex. That BS from Duarte or another Googler about users not needing expandable memory is bs. And the cloud storage argument is ridiculous. Files commonly accessed get cached on the device anyway and take up space. (preaching to the choir). I'm less concerned about the LTE futureproofing, but it's definitely an issue as well.

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Nexus 4 is crap! Don't buy it or u will regret it!!!!!!
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The nexus 4 isnt going to be crap. There are many negative points for me regarding the nexus 4 versus the note 2 but it will not be a bad phone.
On another note. I haven't done any reading or researching on the matter, is the snapdragon really THAT much faster than the exynos? I didnt know such a disparity existed.
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I got the Note II because it has much better battery life than the new Nexus. My last phone was the Galaxy Nexus, a great phone, but I was always carrying an external battery with me or charging it in the wall. Compared to the galaxy nexus (and probably the nexus 4 and most androids out there), my experience so far with the Note II is that the battery life is about twice as good. With the Note II I can leave the bluetooth on, gps on, screen bright, and it's all okay for the day. It also charges super fast at 2amp. It took me longer to charge my Galaxy Nexus even though the battery was much smaller.
Wifi calling, removable battery, larger screen, SD card are nice as well. It seems Google doesn't update their OS that often anymore anyways. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a year and only had very few updates that barely improved anything (where as my Nexus S and Nexus One seemed to have had more significant updates.)

The charging is pretty cool on the note 2. Ive never had a phone with such a huge battery that can chsrge so fast
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Funny thing is when I had my S2 all I heard is how crappy the snapdragon was and how great he Exynos was, now that the nexus has one all of a sudden its the best. Smh

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Funny thing is when I had my S2 all I heard is how crappy the snapdragon was and how great he Exynos was, now that the nexus has one all of a sudden its the best. Smh
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This exactly.
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Nothing on the horizon for Verizon?

Verizon users: Now that the Google Nexus 4 came out without support for Verizon's network, what are you going to upgrade to?
I was saddened when I found out the Nexus4 would not be an option. What's the next best quad-core, 8mp camera, 4.2 OS phone for VZW? (If there is one yet). If not, then what's on the horizon for us?
I love my Nexus but it won't last forever and I'd hate to have to go back to Motorola. (Side question: Why did Google buy Motorola Mobility a while back if they weren't going to leverage it?)

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Verizon users: Now that the Google Nexus 4 came out without support for Verizon's network, what are you going to upgrade to?
I was saddened when I found out the Nexus4 would not be an option. What's the next best quad-core, 8mp camera, 4.2 OS phone for VZW? (If there is one yet). If not, then what's on the horizon for us?
I love my Nexus but it won't last forever and I'd hate to have to go back to Motorola. (Side question: Why did Google buy Motorola Mobility a while back if they weren't going to leverage it?)
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Google Bought Motorola for the patents.
The Galaxy Note II and Droid DNA are both very interesting phones.

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Google Bought Motorola for the patents.
The Galaxy Note II and Droid DNA are both very interesting phones.
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If the DNA had a bigger battery it would be a killer. The note II has a 50% larger battery but a lower dpi display.

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If the DNA had a bigger battery it would be a killer. The note II has a 50% larger battery but a lower dpi display.
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Yup. I've been trying to decide which I like better between the two, and the larger battery on the Note is the biggest factor for me.. But the DNA is sexy, I think I'm gonna wait a month or two and see what happens with the two phones in development. I still have 12 months on my contract so I will be buying out of pocket, right now the DNA is $100 cheaper, but that's not a big factor like the development situation is.

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Yup. I've been trying to decide which I like better between the two, and the larger battery on the Note is the biggest factor for me.. But the DNA is sexy, I think I'm gonna wait a month or two and see what happens with the two phones in development. I still have 12 months on my contract so I will be buying out of pocket, right now the DNA is $100 cheaper, but that's not a big factor like the development situation is.
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The Note II probably also loses some capabilities with an AOSP ROM (not sure how proprietary the S-Pen is) which is also worth consideration.

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The Note II probably also loses some capabilities with an AOSP ROM (not sure how proprietary the S-Pen is) which is also worth consideration.
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Yes you are right, that is something to consider. I dont plan on buying either w/o knowing I can unlock the bootloader and put AOSP or CM on it. So I dont plan to use any of the S-functions or Sense features, all those will be removed from my device. If I can use the pen as just a stylus then I will, and if it doesn't work at all then that is fine with me too. The important thing to me with either phone (besides screen and battery) will be how much attention they receive from the developers, and I'm thinking that will lean more towards the Samsung.

The S4 pro (DNA) is the same as the Nexus 4 so that could help in porting, while the Note II is Exynos (more powerful but Samsung exclusive).

OK, so the DNA is the same as the N4...that's comforting. What is more powerful about the Note II?
I'm eligible for an upgrade but I have unlimited data so I'll be buying out of pocket anyway to keep my unlimited data.

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OK, so the DNA is the same as the N4...that's comforting. What is more powerful about the Note II?
I'm eligible for an upgrade but I have unlimited data so I'll be buying out of pocket anyway to keep my unlimited data.
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Verizon's page has a "compare" feature that will show you the difference in specs side by side.
I read that the VZW Gnote2 is available now, so hopefully the forums will get interesting over there soon. I've been following to see the bootloader unlocked but there are hardly any threads yet.

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OK, so the DNA is the same as the N4...that's comforting. What is more powerful about the Note II?
I'm eligible for an upgrade but I have unlimited data so I'll be buying out of pocket anyway to keep my unlimited data.
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The Exynos is graphically superior to the S4 pro with the down side of being a Samsung exclusive.

Note II and DNA are obviously newest stuff out, if you are going for vanilla though Note II probably wouldn't work for you as CM isnt going to be optimized for the S Apps... DNA looks like they already unlocked so may be better on that front.
Not really worried about an upgrade here 4.2.1 is running good on my Nexus and waiting for CM 10.1 on the d2vzw...

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Note II and DNA are obviously newest stuff out, if you are going for vanilla though Note II probably wouldn't work for you as CM isnt going to be optimized for the S Apps... DNA looks like they already unlocked so may be better on that front.
Not really worried about an upgrade here 4.2.1 is running good on my Nexus and waiting for CM 10.1 on the d2vzw...
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CM10 was too far behind for me, so I switch to AOKP to keep stability/speed but have the features I needed. Also, I cannot tell any difference between my Nexus screen and the DNA one, so that's also not a factor.
I guess it will come down to AOKP - I'll choose whichever one comes out with a 4.2 AOKP release first.
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Can't believe I'm saying this, but after using Windows 8 Pro for almost a month now, the Windows 8 Phone doesn't look too unappealing. If WiFi tether works then I might be swayed...been on Android for over 3 years now. Tough choice.

Note 2 vs nexus 4

So guys I'm in a dilemma here I have both phones right now sealed in the box I don't know which one to keep and which one to sell. I'm in Canada so lte works on the nexus 4. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks

One for work one for play ;p
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One for work one for play ;p
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I was in the same dilemma as well. If you don't mind the size, the Note 2 is the better choice. The Nexus 4 may get the faster updates but we're on xda anyway so pretty much any phone with a good community will get updates.

Personally, if I had a choice between those 2 phones, I would prefer the Note 2. I'm a bit biased because I've been with Samsung for so long and I don't trust any other brand other than them. LOL. But from an unbiased point, the Nexus 4 provides faster updates (as mentioned), the Krait processor, and it's Google. Note 2 has a bunch of useful features and now we have some very reputable and brilliant developers in our community which will jump start our development. There's even an Android 4.2 (WIP) coming for us!

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So guys I'm in a dilemma here I have both phones right now sealed in the box I don't know which one to keep and which one to sell. I'm in Canada so lte works on the nexus 4. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks
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Note 2 hands down...more features and great dev support.
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I've used both and ended up sticking with the note 2 there's nothing out there right now that can compare to its specs not even goggles own baby
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Did you ask this same question in the Nexus 4 section? lol...It's gonna be hard to get an unbiased opinion when you ask a question like that in a section specifically for one of the phones
Having said that, I had the LG Optimus G, and aside from the LG skin (which wasn't TOO horrible) it was a good phone, but I still promptly exchanged it for a Note 2 and don't regret it one bit. I have never had good experiences with LG phones. The display was beautiful though.

I have a note 2 and my buddy has a nexus 4. I thought the nexus 4 screen looks way better then note 2 screen hands down in my opinion. The build quality and feel of nexus 4 is also much better. However no removable battery no lte, and no sd card support are major deal breakers. 16gb is just not enough with games and apps installed. At least if they made a 32gb version.
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The nexus 4 has some attractive points. LTE maybe less of an issue if you in Canada. The screen is nice and it's a fast performer.
But for me the lack of MicroSD and non-removable is a no go for me. Not only is battery life on the Note 2 awesome, but I have a spare battery i can use if every needed. I also really like having the s pen and the 5.5" screen i greatly enjoy. The size of the note is not for everyone, I'm OK with it.
You have to decide how important each of these factors are to you. Once you do that I'm sure you'll be happy with your choice.

If note 2 was made by LG and nexus 4 by Samsung, I'd say go for nexus 4...
Personally I'm staying away from anything LG, I had enough gray hair with LG Nitro HD, thank you very much.

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If note 2 was made by LG and nexus 4 by Samsung, I'd say go for nexus 4...
Personally I'm staying away from anything LG, I had enough gray hair with LG Nitro HD, thank you very much.
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You're lucky you never tried the Thrill then...
I need more time before trying LG again. The guy at the AT&T store tried to get me to buy the Optimus G when the Note was not in stock yet. The nexus might be okay if LG isn't responsible for the software.
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When you ask such question in Note 2 forum, my feeling is that you are going to get some bias answer.
I have both phones, and I think both phone are top notch in their own way. Here's what I think:
Nexus 4
- Very solid build, the construction is as solid as iPhone. Feels great in hand.
- The display does produce some relatively accurate colour compare to my IPS displays. I do a lot of photo editing/viewing. On the other hand, the sAMOLED does throw the colour off a bit by over saturated (nature of AMOLED), with the "natural" profile on Note2, it does become closer to real colour. Pixel density on the N4 is also better, but it's not critical as the Note 2 display is pretty sharp with the sAMOLED HD.
- AOSP, AOSP, AOSP! If you aren't a fan of Touchwiz, this is what you should keep. Not just the updates, as they don't come everyday. It's the user experience. Samsung does add a lot of neat feature that many can't live without, but in my honest opinion, AOSP does provide a nice layout and great feature out the box. I am also not a huge fan of Samsung's oversized UI, either.
- Believe it or not, the on screen button is a very important "feature" of N4 - You now have a place to put your thumb when you hold the phone, especially when passing the phone to people to show them stuff...without accidentally touching any of the buttons. However, also because of the on screen button, you do lose some screen estate.
- Buttery smooth, yes, smoother than the "more powerful" Note 2
- The price - You are indeed getting a lot of phone for the price that you are paying.
- Battery is medicore, partially due to bugs of 4.2 I believe. Dead locks are draining the battery.
- Lack of SD card might be a deal breaker for you. It isn't for me.
- Camera sucks.
Note 2
- Huge display, this is probably the max that you can carry with the borderline portability. The display is beneficial for reading stuff, browsing, sharing contents with friends
- The battery is ridiculous. The size, with the power management of the software makes it unreal. I get average 2 hours of light/moderate usage per 10%, on LTE.
- Touchwiz - To use the full features of the Note2, you probably don't want AOSP. The S-Pen works well with touchwiz, and I find touchwiz works well with large displays due to the oversized UI elements
- Size - It's pocketable, but it's not extremely comfortable. Taking in and out, using it in public, talking on it looks very awkward. No matter how big your hands are, how big of a person you are, this IS larger than your average phone by a lot
- One hand usability - Samsung does have some one hand accessibility but in general, reaching for places around the screen is a struggle with one hand
- Great sound - Speaker, and headphone jack.
- Strong vibrator
- S Pen - Unless you have a use for it, it's a gimmick. It's fun to fool around with it, but the hype tends to die off quickly
- FAST charging. Nexus 4 is fast, but Note 2 is even faster consider it's massive battery. This is a very important feature to me.
- Impressive camera, but not that it's any/much better than that of SGS3
- Oh, if you don't have a 7" tablet yet, this should fill that gap a bit.
As it stands, Note 2 has some very attractive points to me, such as the large display for reading and the insane battery life that makes me not to worry about being close to a charger. However, I don't feel comfortable using it on a daily basis due to the size. WIth that said, I am using a Note 2 now as I gave my Nexus 4 (8GB) to my other half. I have a 16GB coming in a month, and I will re-evaluate it again by then.
These two phones are pretty much Android in it's best form in today's market, and they are not substitutable for each other due to the different nature of them. The phone war has evolved to beyond to the specs-war just like computing world. The "better specs" of Note 2 doesn't necessary determine whether the phone is better or not, and with that said, Nexus 4 specs is pretty impressive too. You need to pick your own base on your need
Hope it helps a bit with your decision! Any more specific questions you have that can help with your decision, just ask. It's a tough one to make.

Awesome thanks for the input its a huge decision I think of will end up keeping the note
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The Nexus 4 ultimately had too many drawbacks for me to consider it. The thermal throttling issues with the S4Pro processor, the non-swapable battery with less than stellar battery life, the limited storage without microSD expansion, the glass back prone to cracking, and no LTE. And now we find out that the Nexus 4 cannot support USB-OTG, so all those who bought one thinking they could move files over to an external drive are SOL. No USB keyboards/mice/Dualshock etc. Not a big deal if you have bluetooth peripherals, but I want to have as many options as possible. The Note II is a superhero in that regard...

I have the Note 2 and personally love it, but if you don't need the size, then nexus 4 is a much better option. I love the vanilla 4.2 JB and the screen is much crispier, any build quality is top notch [I have both phones]
If note 2 had a 1080 display then, I would so Note 2 hands down.

Get a quality BT headphone and you won't have to worry about how you look to other people...personally I really could give a rats behind how others think...but hey that's just me...
Nexus vs Note II...to me it all comes down to do you want the biggest best phone or a smaller phone that doesn't offer as much.
S-pen is there if you need it...and it's always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
ASOP...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616..it has a few minor glitches...but if this is your thing...then enjoy it.
Smoothness...drop this one in...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028661 add Nova launcher and tweak it...and your golden...
Memory card...your going to want one...just to fill up with all of the videos you'll be watching and music you'll be rocking to...
My advice...prop them both up side by side and watch any video on it...browse the internet..then ask yourself...which offers you what you want/need to enjoy it with
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Mac11700 said:
Get a quality BT headphone and you won't have to worry about how you look to other people...personally I really could give a rats behind how others think...but hey that's just me...
Nexus vs Note II...to me it all comes down to do you want the biggest best phone or a smaller phone that doesn't offer as much.
S-pen is there if you need it...and it's always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
ASOP...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616..it has a few minor glitches...but if this is your thing...then enjoy it.
Smoothness...drop this one in...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028661 add Nova launcher and tweak it...and your golden...
Memory card...your going to want one...just to fill up with all of the videos you'll be watching and music you'll be rocking to...
My advice...prop them both up side by side and watch any video on it...browse the internet..then ask yourself...which offers you what you want/need to enjoy it with
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Mac,
No offense but I think your post is pretty bias.
- Yes, you can always bring a BT headset, but shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly? Also, how about the people that don't like bluetooth headset in general?
- S-Pen, yes, it's better to have but at what cost? Size of the phone?
- Touchwiz isn't without it's own glitches, whether AOSP or not is a pure preferences whether it has bugs or not. I actually find touchwiz works well with GN2, AOSP won't.
- Smoothness, sorry, Note 2 just isn't as smooth as a N4 no matter what launcher you put in. It could be due to settings, but out the box even with Nova, it's not there.
- Memory Card - why must he get one?
I do agree with Note 2 having better specs, but the cost is the size. If you can live with the size and Touchwiz, there isn't a reason not to get Note2....but only if you can live with the size.
Cheers.

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shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly?
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Caring about what other people think of you holding a phone to your face reeks of insecurity to me. "Looking Silly" is the last thing that would sway me from buying an excellent device.
Remember how small phones used to be ten years ago? It wasn't that long ago when people also thought 3.5" smartphones were huge.

cy88 said:
Mac,
No offense but I think your post is pretty bias.
- Yes, you can always bring a BT headset, but shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly? Also, how about the people that don't like bluetooth headset in general?
- S-Pen, yes, it's better to have but at what cost? Size of the phone?
- Touchwiz isn't without it's own glitches, whether AOSP or not is a pure preferences whether it has bugs or not. I actually find touchwiz works well with GN2, AOSP won't.
- Smoothness, sorry, Note 2 just isn't as smooth as a N4 no matter what launcher you put in. It could be due to settings, but out the box even with Nova, it's not there.
- Memory Card - why must he get one?
I do agree with Note 2 having better specs, but the cost is the size. If you can live with the size and Touchwiz, there isn't a reason not to get Note2....but only if you can live with the size.
Cheers.
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Cy8888, that's funny you said Mac's post was biased because that's exactly what I thought when I read your long post above.
Remember, the OP asked what people thought and the reply's have been, for the most part, just that. Almost every statement you made in your lengthy post was "your opinion", certainly not facts. For example, I use the S-Pen daily and love it's added benefit and it, in my opinion, is not a gimmick as you stated.
So, no need to call out another forum members post when he is doing the same as you...giving his opinion as requested by the OP.:angel:

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Cy8888, that's funny you said Mac's post was biased because that's exactly what I thought when I read your long post above.
Remember, the OP asked what people thought and the reply's have been, for the most part, just that. Almost every statement you made in your lengthy post was "your opinion", certainly not facts. For example, I use the S-Pen daily and love it's added benefit and it, in my opinion, is not a gimmick as you stated.
So, no need to call out another forum members post when he is doing the same as you...giving his opinion as requested by the OP.:angel:
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I was bias because I love/have the Note 2 so much but the size, right?
What I said: "S Pen -Unless you have a use for it, it's a gimmick." - You do, so it's not a gimmick for you for sure. I know a few people that do have a use for it and I am impressed with how they make use of it for work purposes.
Which other point of my post is pure bias? I simply listed out the things I from with using both devices, I never said one is better for another for everyone. However Mac did say that "you are GOING to want one", "BUGS with 4.2", etc etc to just praise the Note 2. OP is trying to make a decision, and words like that aren't going to make his choice easier is it?
UCLAKoolman said:
Caring about what other people think of you holding a phone to your face reeks of insecurity to me. "Looking Silly" is the last thing that would sway me from buying an excellent device.
Remember how small phones used to be ten years ago? It wasn't that long ago when people also thought 3.5" smartphones were huge.
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I might have worded it wrong, but the fact that it's bigger than normal does draw attention. Yes, you can choose not to care about anyone thinks at all, but there are some actually "dont" want to draw that type of attention with a device. It is a fact that Note 2 is humongous, and that's ALSO it's selling point. Unless you have a need and can live with the size, otherwise you might want to look at other alternatives like SGS3 (which i have one sitting here also if you want comparison) that offers something in the middle.
I apologize if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way, wasn't the intention.
Cheers!