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Does this make a difference in every day performance like playing you tube videos and browsing.
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In everyday performance, not really, save for a bit more battery drain.
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No, it does not.
it would be interesting if somebody would test both gpu settings on a certain game to see how much it impacts battery life
i'm using 318 on franco nightly and never had slowdowns on videos or in normal apps, never tried games
I am debating whether to buy the Nexus 4 or the Note II. Yes I admire the huge screen, and really doesn't bother me. But at the same time, the Nexus has some features that the Note II can't simply offer. Things as important as updates straight from Google, from stupid little things like the notification lights. Which one should I decide?
Well, if you get the Nexus 4, it's almost the same price outright as the Note 2 is on contract. I recently switched to Straight Talk Wireless prepaid and am using the same T-Mobile network for only $45/month. So I think the deciding factor between the two phones is whether you want to stay on a contract for another two years, or explore other options.
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Personally would wait... most of the phones have stagnated in improvements...
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Personally would wait... most of the phones have stagnated in improvements...
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Stagnated in improvements?? Both the Nexus 4 and Note 2 are amazing upgrades compared to this phone.
-Better, bigger 720p screens
-GPUs with more than twice the power of the adreno 220 (NFS Most Wanted plays SO smooth on the Note 2.)
-quad core CPUs that put this snapdragon s3 boat to shame with antutu scores of 12,000+
-2gb of ram
-MUCH better cameras
-The Note 2 has insane battery life
-and to top if off both ship with official Jelly Bean?
Stagnant? I don't even..
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Stagnated in improvements?? Both the Nexus 4 and Note 2 are amazing upgrades compared to this phone.
-Better, bigger 720p screens
-GPUs with more than twice the power of the adreno 220 (NFS Most Wanted plays SO smooth on the Note 2.)
-quad core CPUs that put this snapdragon s3 boat to shame with antutu scores of 12,000+
-2gb of ram
-MUCH better cameras
-The Note 2 has insane battery life
-and to top if off both ship with official Jelly Bean?
Stagnant? I don't even..
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I would take the note 2 over the nexus 4 any day it looks so awesome
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I would take the note 2 over the nexus 4 any day it looks so awesome
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+1... I went from a 3.5" screen to this phone (SG II). At first I was like, wow the screen is way too big...Now I want a bigger screen Plus the note seems to have quite a few cool options. Just my $.02
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+1... I went from a 3.5" screen to this phone (SG II). At first I was like, wow the screen is way too big...Now I want a bigger screen Plus the note seems to have quite a few cool options. Just my $.02
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The screen size is something you would get used to easily .. it can do everything that the nexus 4 does and more .. if you got the cash to spend on it ..it ls by far the better phone
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The screen size is something you would get used to easily .. it can do everything that the nexus 4 does and more .. if you got the cash to spend on it ..it ls by far the better phone
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Yea I'd spring for a Note 2 over the Nexus 4. I play with it everyday at work. We have a display with the Note 2 attached to the Moga controller. Man... ultimate emulator experience! I loaded up SNESoid with Super Mario World on it and people can't stop playing with it lol. Sold a few Note 2s off that little stunt
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Yea I'd spring for a Note 2 over the Nexus 4. I play with it everyday at work. We have a display with the Note 2 attached to the Moga controller. Man... ultimate emulator experience! I loaded up SNESoid with Super Mario World on it and people can't stop playing with it lol. Sold a few Note 2s off that little stunt
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I think its the phone of the year ..Samsung made. Huge production over the galaxy S3 but the Galaxy Note 2 kills it
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I think its the phone of the year ..Samsung made. Huge production over the galaxy S3 but the Galaxy Note 2 kills it
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Dude the battery life alone is to kill for. I'm gonna run a little test at work. Fully charge it and then unplug it. See how long it lasts.
Wish I could toss a huge battery in this phone without making it look like a 90s brick cell phone.
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Stagnated in improvements?? Both the Nexus 4 and Note 2 are amazing upgrades compared to this phone.
-Better, bigger 720p screens
-GPUs with more than twice the power of the adreno 220 (NFS Most Wanted plays SO smooth on the Note 2.)
-quad core CPUs that put this snapdragon s3 boat to shame with antutu scores of 12,000+
-2gb of ram
-MUCH better cameras
-The Note 2 has insane battery life
-and to top if off both ship with official Jelly Bean?
Stagnant? I don't even..
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NFS most wanted plays very smoothly in my phone and the nexus' camera doesn't seem to be any better than my phone's.
That said, I'm still gonna get the nexus 4 because it's overall the best phone you can get for that price.
I don't think the note 2 and the nexus 4 are really competing with each other. they're aimed at two different types of people. For me, the note's just too big and too expensive, lol. But the screen is gorgeous so if you're comfortable with the huge screen then it's perfect.
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NFS most wanted plays very smoothly in my phone and the nexus' camera doesn't seem to be any better than my phone's.
That said, I'm still gonna get the nexus 4 because it's overall the best phone you can get for that price.
I don't think the note 2 and the nexus 4 are really competing with each other. they're aimed at two different types of people. For me, the note's just too big and too expensive, lol. But the screen is gorgeous so if you're comfortable with the huge screen then it's perfect.
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Don't lie. NFS most wanted does NOT play smoothly on this phone. Either that or you'e completely oblivious to framerates. It runs smoother on JB ROMs than ICS ROMs.. but even then I notice frame rates float between the low 20s to low 30s and it fluctuates ALOT. I've tried this game on around 10 ROMs or so. Even with cpu overclocks and overclocked GPU speeds.
The Note 2 stays above 40 fps at all times and doesn't drop one bit. As seen in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyg8vTbGRX8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
And this is a video of the game playing on an exynos powered GSII, and mind you the Mali 400 GPU stomps the adreno 220 found in this phone..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nxTYuL0UsM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
So yea. No.
Feel free to upload a video of gameplay to prove me wrong. Till then, I call bullsh*t.
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I got to test the SGN2 last night and i have to say, I LOVE IT! I am getting myself this phone for Christmas. Anyway enough babbling...check out these scores from Antutu and Quadrant. Blew my 3D out of the water.
I totally love this phone. Running Sleshepic's ice reborn. I don't think there's anything that comes close to this thing.
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I totally love this phone. Running Sleshepic's ice reborn. I don't think there's anything that comes close to this thing.
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I used to root and run Roms but I feel that in some ways rooting almost shortens my phones life. I bought an Evo 3D and decided not to root and the phone runs great on stock ICS. And I do agree that this phone is topdog amongst the rest. Can't wait to get my hands on mine.
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I'm actually on the Note 2 right now.
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I used to root and run Roms but I feel that in some ways rooting almost shortens my phones life. I bought an Evo 3D and decided not to root and the phone runs great on stock ICS. And I do agree that this phone is topdog amongst the rest. Can't wait to get my hands on mine.
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2 years ago I got myself the Evo 4g, had it stock for the 1st year (because I didn't know about rooting) then I got the samsung galaxy tab 8.9. I wanted to use the tab at work & someone mentioned rooting for free wifi tether. Best thing I ever did. I got the flashing sickness. I would sometimes flash 4 to 5 roms a day. Now I have the amazing note2. Anyway, my Evo looks brand new, rooting it didn't harm it in the least. It made it a better phone. Now it's a media device. Just my 2ยข
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I had my mind set on getting the note 2 ever since I heard about it, but after watching a video on YouTube that compared the note 2 and the DNA, I'm not so sure. The video ran every benchmark that antutu has to offer and the DNA beat the note 2 in almost every test by a little. Also, the DNA has a larger resolution.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Benchnarks are relative. You dont know if its been overclocked or if one has a bunch of apps or services running. You have to look at the specs and see if its better. I ran both of these benchmarks after reading this and my phone had better results several times and worse results several times.
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I think you have a point. I noticed that the note 2 has a faster clock speed on it's CPU but thought that perhaps the make of the CPU alone could make a difference in performance (Intel CPUs vs AMD CPUs for example).
In regards to resolution, has anyone seen the difference between the note 2 and the HTC DNA? I don't think the video review does a good job of showing the picture quality of each phone.
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I think you have a point. I noticed that the note 2 has a faster clock speed on it's CPU but thought that perhaps the make of the CPU alone could make a difference in performance (Intel CPUs vs AMD CPUs for example).
In regards to resolution, has anyone seen the difference between the note 2 and the HTC DNA? I don't think the video review does a good job of showing the picture quality of each phone.
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I have played with both devices and while the DNA is a nice device it does feel sluggish at times especialy when hopping in between different open programs.
As for the display, its all about user preference. I prefer the Note for the vibrant colors. The DNA seemed a little crisper but it also bothered my eyes after staring at it for awhile.
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I have played with both devices and while the DNA is a nice device it does feel sluggish at times especialy when hopping in between different open programs.
As for the display, its all about user preference. I prefer the Note for the vibrant colors. The DNA seemed a little crisper but it also bothered my eyes after staring at it for awhile.
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Very helpful! I tend to multitask when using my phone so i'm leaning back toward the note 2, especially since it has that multi window feature.
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My scores
Edit: I thought this was the verizon section sorry
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I had my mind set on getting the note 2 ever since I heard about it, but after watching a video on YouTube that compared the note 2 and the DNA, I'm not so sure. The video ran every benchmark that antutu has to offer and the DNA beat the note 2 in almost every test by a little. Also, the DNA has a larger resolution.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Um, the GN2 has an s pen. Is there any comparison?
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I think you're doing yourself a serious disservice if you make your decision based on benchmark scores from either one of these apps.
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Um, the GN2 has an s pen. Is there any comparison?
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I believe there is a comparison between the two phones as they are both rather large phones and leaders in performance.
I personally don't consider the s pen the note 2's defining characteristic (although I can see why some would). The s pen aside, the note 2 is a beast of a phone. I think of the s pen as an added bonus, similar to my Samsung Epic 4g's slide out keyboard.
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I think you're doing yourself a serious disservice if you make your decision based on benchmark scores from either one of these apps.
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These would be the least of the things I would use to consider a new phone. I was just running these and was suprised at the score. I've been set on this phone for a while. And if I don't get it, ill probably consider another HTC. I love the sense.
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I always find myself messing with the benchmark apps of Quadrant and Antutu, it does do a good comparison. And for those who say some times it is slower and sometimes higher.. When you run a car/motorcycle on the dyno or quarter mile don't you also get higher and lower results? It may not be the most concrete comparison system but it isn't garbage.(not saying anyone in HERE called it garbage but have heard it in other places). Anyways for a 7600 score on quadrant what were you running for clock speed min max, the gpu settings etc. I noticed you were on the Venum Ice reborn ROM. it is Odexed, aren't those supposed to be faster?
Also how do the fellas on top of the Antutu boards running the Gn2 run the test at resolutions of like 720x8 and other crazy res's like that?
I had a couple real low 7k quadrant runs but they got wiped flashing ROM's and not saving it. but here's what I do have.
Its rumored that the S4 and N3 will have Exynos 5 Octa CPU, Mali-T658 (8-Core) GPU, 2GB of RAM . Is this harware good enough to run PS2 emulator and Xbox 1 emulator?
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What you have now is more than enough. Exynos four is plenty powerful
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Are there any PS2/XBox emulators
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If the s4 is coming out next month, then maybe they won't have the 8 core chip yet. To soon to make it to market
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An 8 core!? That freaking ridiculous. A battery life on the phone would last as long as me running... (I don't like running)
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An 8 core!? That freaking ridiculous. A battery life on the phone would last as long as me running... (I don't like running)
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That's what everyone said about a quad core. Yet here we are.
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big.LITTLE does not activate all eight cores at the same time towards a task.
You will either get quad-core Cortex-A15 performance (heavy loads) or quad-core Cortex-A7 performance (light loads).
Gaming system emulation is limited by the CPU, not the GPU. The Exynos 5 will be a step up but probably not enough.
Wont effect battery life as long as propper governors are set and the batter is atleast 2700 (I now thats smaller than ours but so will the entire sg4 compared to the gn2)... inter-processor fluidity, gui, screen size, android version, etc should better battery life as well
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Like I said. You do understand that these telephones pack enough processing power if not more than the original PS had. Probably. I haven't actually checked but I'm pretty sure Thad note 3 will handle emulating ten year old games....
The question that should be being asked is if someone can develop an emulator that isn't buggy as hell
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The entire purpose of the octa core is to improve battery. When the device doesn't need to run at high power the second 4 cores a low power arm 7 will take over. The are saying it will improve battery by 70%. I will have to see that to believe it but if they say 70% I bet we can count on gaining at least 40% which would be awesome.
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Not yet, but im hoping for development with the upcoming hardware from Samsung and LG
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I just can't wait for KLP. I was reading they are going to optimize it for quad core cpu's and will also do allot of battery optimization. This phone here, the Note 2 is a beast of a phone as it is. The battery life is great, the screen is amazing and I've been using the s-pen more and more and I like it much more then I thought I would.
Yeah the S4 will be nice but the Note 3, that will be amazing. Kinda like the s3 then the Note 2 comes out with better everything and a much better screen. I can't handle pen tile screens.
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Also, if you look at the USA s3, is dual core and it still packs more then enough power. That's why when KLP comes out and we get it rolled out to us. Our battery life will be even better then it is now since it will be quad core optimized.
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Gaming emulation still requires power since it's running on another Os. A reason you don't see xbox 360 or ps3 emulations atm.
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KLP on the note 2 will be amazing and ive been playing with the spen lately its fun never thought id use it but its pretty fun to use
It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Different CPU architectures, and other parts so you cannot compare mhz vs mhz. Also depends on what you are testing exactly.
Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Note 2 is a power house its enjoyable. Any more power is just bragging right from here on out. For oc it has to do with heat dispensing, voltage the archatech the NM of the chip and of course software.
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It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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I know I'm going to get some heat for this, but quadrant scores are around 12750 whereas my note 2 has topped at around 8500...I'm not saying I can't do anything less on our device; I do enjoy having the highest performance of anything out there
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Haha, like I said, I knew I'd get get heat for that, and I realize benchmarks aren't the most accurate way of determining power and performance...but I do like the bragging rights of saying that mine is numerically higher. I know it's kind of wrong, but it's also fun to mess with the settings and find what combos get the best results which led me to this post. I was also more curious as to why even though our device clocked higher with otherwise similar specs still don't match up.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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Its not so much the cpu that is the biggest change in quadrant its in the power of the gpu that the note 2 has a mali 400 while some models of the S4 have much more powerful gpu's
Does that even matter in Quadrant? If you have a device with vsync off then it will score much higher in GPU than the Note 2 with Vsync.
Also, if you are going to only focus on Benchmarks to compare, at least use a more decent test or various tests to get a broader perspective like 3DMark, Antutu and Vellamo.
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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But shouldn't they be in a similar range? Forgive me for the repetition, I just want to know a little more about the way this works.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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+1
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I do understand now. I'm just being clear. My apologies.
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