I bought Ti BU thinking it would simplify upgrading my ROMs. But after every ROM install, I still have go through setup, sign into Play, download TiBU, do a batch restore from Ti.
One issue is that downloading TiBU gets stuck in the queue while every app I have ever downloaded from Play store get re downloaded.
Is there a way to make this easier?
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you never use clockworkmod backup (nandbackup or whatever you call it) ?
clockworkmod backup contains all backup of data,cache,system, and boot.img
then after applying any rom, you can restore only the data and cache
and you don't have to sign in to google play etc ...
i like this feature of clockworkmod recovery (custom recovery)
but if you're applying rom that based aosp but the backup that you have is on the sense rom based,,,it's better not to restore using this method ... use titanium backup method is better
I think Ti can create an update.zip, it's probably what you're looking for, you flash it after the ROM.
Both of those sound like correct answers. I will try both of them. If the CWM mode works, it will mean TiBU was a bit of waste of $$$ for me... oh well, not the first time I have done that.
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So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
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techdude54 said:
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
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In what situation would i use titanium back up with a rooted evo?
Titanium backs up your app and data from your phone. I am rooted and I use it when I need it, when I want to re install apps when I switch roms.
Using my HTC Evo phone which I'm using Xda app to post
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So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
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Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
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okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
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Yes
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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I use Titanium Backup for backing up data and restoring it on a new ROM a lot. Before I flash a new ROM I always do a complete Titanium Backup and a nandroid backup. If the flash fails I restore from my nandroid backup and if the flash works I load my apps back with Titanium Backup (that way all my saved data on things like games is there and I don't have to start over).
I will caution against doing a restore of everything on a new ROM though (mostly a problem if you're going from something like a stock Evo based ROM to a AOSP ROM). I've had some issues when I restored a few system files (accounts database for example). If you stick with installable applications you shouldn't run into any trouble though (also I've had no problems restoring my call log and text message database).
When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
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When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
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I didn't know that, thanks for the tip.
Hiya, i've got to satisfy my curiosity. In any instructions in flashing roms, it is always said to make a recovery image. So my question is:
What is the difference between flashing a zip and restoring a recovery?
I know that a recovery will save setting and contacts etc, but in real terms of "i've got a bootloop and need to change my rom", what would the problem be in flashing from a zip and using my backup root to restore everything else?
Any replys greatly appreciated!
When you flash a new rom (zip) the settings, ... are stock (from the rom). After a restore everything is like you backed it up (normally ) - at least the settings, apps,... . I would recommend you to backup the apps also with TitaniumBackup or another equal app and the sms with Sms Backup & Restore. Just to be on the safe site
thans for the quick reply. just to clarify, is my backup (nandriod) was corrupted or by some freak chance i lot my sd with it on, there is not technical difference in just flashing a zip?
If you lose your backup (or it is corrupt,...) you loose your settings, apps and so on (->) After the installation of the rom there are only the stock apps, the stock "Desktop",... You could "repair" your phone with the rom, but a restore would be better in most cases
Hi folks... I'm fairly new to flashing ROM's (i know how to flash them and such) but I have a question about backups and restores of roms....I have searched and just dont see the exact wording im looking for.
Ok, So, I have clockwork, and rom manager and have done a backup of my rom.
Here is my question that isnt quite so clear to me.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
Id love to try out a bunch of roms.. but I just hate having to go and re-download all of my programs each time I put a new one on... if that is how it has to be then so be it...
I just dont really know exactly what the backups im doing are for, or what they do.
Thanks for your help.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
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Somewhat. A nandroid backup is a COMPLETE backup of your entire phone at the point you make the backup. All your apps, calls, texts, etc will be exactly like you made the backup. That's the beauty of nandroid backups, you can make one, try a new rom, and if you dont like it, restore your backup and there is no hassle re-installing apps and changing settings.
However, when you install a new rom, you have to wipe everything. So when flashing a new rom, you will not have anything, you will have to re-install your programs.
There are backup programs that will allow you to backup before a wipe and flash when installing a new ROM. You can then restore the user apps and data. You can also restore SOME system data but you have to be careful and it may be a trial and error process when restoring.
I use Titanium Backup. Some people also use MyBackup Root. I found that when I restored some of my apps with MyBackup they would Force Close when I tried to run them after a restore. That has not been the case with Titanium.
I have Titanium set to restore the apps to the original location. That way my apps restore to internal (DATA) or the the SD Card depending on where they were originally installed.
My process when I flash a new ROM:
- Backup all user apps + Data and System Data with Titanium.
- Nandroid Backup using Amon_RA
- Wipe System, Data, Dalvik and Cache
- Flash the ROM
- Reboot
- Create google account, etc.
- Install Titanium from the market.
- Restore user apps + data using titanium
You can also restore some system data. Depending on the ROM (and how different it was from the original) that can cause problems. If that happens go back to wipe and reflash the ROM again without restoring the system data.
I have had no problems restoring things like my SMS Messages and Call Logs. You can get into problems when you start restoring things like system settings or HTC Sense settings, etc.
Thank you both for the replies. This is exactly what i needed to know. I hope this thread helps others with similar questions.
There is one thing. CWM and ROM Manager have a history of not being reliable with backups.
Your best bet is to get Amon Ra and use that to make Nandroids.
4 I always have on my phone are my Stock/Rooted, my last ROM I was on, fully setup, my Current ROM, basic, before I restore and programs or apps/data, and my current ROM all setup.
If I flash a new ROM, I can just delete my older complete setup.
Hi all,
About to root and rom for the first time on any phone and I was wondering a few things.
First, after I install clockwork mod recovery, I can make a backup... Does this backup have the ability to restore all of my apps and data after I install a custom rom? Also, does it restore things like homescreen widgets, app settings etc as well?
Secondly, after I install the rom of my choice, how does updating it to a newer version work? Will updating to a newer version wipe my phone completely or is it like receiving a stock ota update in that it doesn't erase anything?
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1) The backups in clockworkmod are of your entire phone. Without a 3rd party app such as titanium you won't be able to restore specific pieces of it. IMO clockworkmod backups are meant to be used to restore your entire phone if something goes wrong. Titanium has a feature where you can restore specific stuff from the backups, but I would recommend creating backups via titanium rather than relying on what was done in clockworkmod. Personally, I backup everything with titanium then do a backup in clockworkmod before I flash a rom. App settings will restore, widgets do but many times you'll have to add them again because they restore with placeholders for whatever reason.
2) Updating a rom is dependent on the specific rom and often the version. Some roms you can just flash over what you're running, sometimes an update will be significant enough to require a wipe. Even if a rom doesn't require a wipe, I'd advise at least doing a backup.
I have Titanium Backup PRO and it works fine but is a pain.
When I say its a pain, its because when I flash new roms multiple roms per day, I always need to install the gapps and then go to the market and download the Titanium Backup app and the licence for the Titanium Backup PRO to work with a single click restore. Then I must wait till all apps are restored and then reboot. Takes about 20 minutes. I would like this time to be shorter and a simple install right after the rom is installed like a .zip install within the clockwork mod recovery just like the .zip for the gapps.
Is there a way to take the apps from Titanium Backup PRO and the system data and make them a .zip so I can flash them in Recovery mode?
Even if you cant do the system data, is there a way to have a .zip that I can install in CWM Recovery mode?
Any help for this is greatly appreciated.
This can be done but there is a app called apo2zip not sure how it works on jb though
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titanium backup pro allows you to create a flashable .zip that will install titanium backup as either a user or system app (your preference). you can flash it after your rom, boot up, restore your pro key then do a batch restore of all your apps. cuts out a bit of the hassle.
Anfeldt24 said:
I have Titanium Backup PRO and it works fine but is a pain.
When I say its a pain, its because when I flash new roms multiple roms per day, I always need to install the gapps and then go to the market and download the Titanium Backup app and the licence for the Titanium Backup PRO to work with a single click restore. Then I must wait till all apps are restored and then reboot. Takes about 20 minutes. I would like this time to be shorter and a simple install right after the rom is installed like a .zip install within the clockwork mod recovery just like the .zip for the gapps.
Is there a way to take the apps from Titanium Backup PRO and the system data and make them a .zip so I can flash them in Recovery mode?
Even if you cant do the system data, is there a way to have a .zip that I can install in CWM Recovery mode?
Any help for this is greatly appreciated.
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Don't know of any tool that will convert TiB backups to cwm flashable .zip. However, you can create an update.zip of TiB itself within the app, which can be flashed using a custom recovery. Saves your from the hassle of signing in with your google account and downloading plus installnig TiB + pro key from the play store before you can use it.
BTW: flashing multiple ROMs per day? Talking about heavy usage.
Yes this is what I was looking for. Just didn't know how to do that. Didn't know titanium backup pro did this option.
I have roms I like and those that work on some things others don't. I love the cm10 but also the aopk rom. Then on Sundays I need ICS so the Verizon NFL app will work. I use about 10gbs a month.